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Speaker 1: And I'll just turn around and I call ass out
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of there.
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Speaker 2: I was done.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't deal with that.
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Speaker 2: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
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that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my
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head lights on, it turned and looked at us.
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Speaker 1: And one of the things I remember the most, where
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the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.
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Speaker 2: It is just circling these steps.
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Speaker 1: Like it is waiting for me.
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Speaker 2: And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.
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They're basically like, what are you talking about.
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Speaker 1: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
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and that's where I saw the top of the.
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Speaker 2: Muzzle, noose and the eyes. As soon as I made
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eye contact with this thing, I don't like death.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to ten, Foyle tells. I'm your host Brandon Tonight,
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we're joined by my guest author p R. Mfidel. Thanks
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for coming on here and talking to me.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's my honor be here.
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Speaker 1: Would you like to let the audience know a little
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bit about yourself.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm an author. I actually worked in another
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industry for years and I've always been able to write,
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and so I kind of just kind of wrote on
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the side, just you know, dinked around or whatever, didn't
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really take it too seriously. And then what happened was
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there was the Beast, and that just kind of woke
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me up to things. And so I started doing a
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lot of research, and I started using writing as a
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coping mechanism, and before I knew it, I'd written a
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whole book, and that was my first book, Tales of
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American Idiocy. And what that is is that's just a
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bunch of short stories kind of detailing the early twenty
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twenties and some of the things that we went through then.
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So there's that, and there was a story in there
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called Conspiracy Cat and it was basically about a cat
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named Chester, and he's a conspiracy theorist and all the pets,
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of course, the other pets in the neighborhood think he's insane, right,
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they think he's nuts. He's always talking about aliens, He's
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always talking about lizard people and government plots and this,
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that and the other. Right, Well, then he starts. What
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happens is Chester starts making predictions about the beast, and
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he basically says that the humans are going to start
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wearing muzzles. And then all this other stuff, and of
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course the other animals, the other pets, think he's absolutely nuts.
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But then his predictions start coming true and the story
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just kind of goes from there, and there's a lot
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of other things that happen in it, like you meet
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an alien, no, you meet people that are in disguise.
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It's very interesting and it was one of my poor
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popular stories, and people just kept saying, hey, you know,
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you got to make another story about Chester. You know,
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Chester's awesome. So I said, okay, fine, I will, and
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then I wrote Conspiracy Crew. The End is Now, and
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it basically just kind of picks up from where the
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short story Conspiracy Cat leaves off, and it goes through
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more information about the beast, and it goes through information
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about certain mandates that happened and the trucker blockades and
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a lot of the things that happened in history in
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the early twenty twenties that I don't think are fully appreciated,
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and I hope will be someday. And that's just kind
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of my story right now. I do have another book
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coming out called The Spirits of Suddenly. It deals less
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with conspiracy theories, but it's short story format as well.
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But I am working on a third follow up for
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Chester and his conspiracy crew, because once the animals find
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out that everything starts coming true, they pretty much join
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him and they can become conspiracy theorists also.
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Speaker 1: So before twenty twenty, when the rise of the conspiracies
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it seemed to come about, was this something that you'd
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ever really looked into prior? Or is it kind of
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your writing or whatever came from what happened.
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Speaker 2: So I had looked into conspiracy theories prior, and I
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never thought that questioning things was bad. My career actually
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involves questioning things. I work in the health sciences actually,
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and that's my you know, where I was as a
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professional for a long time, and so, you know, in
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order to do a good job, I was always taught
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to question things, think about things, really, look at the
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way something's presenting, maybe do a little more investigation if
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I wasn't sure. Basically, don't take anything off the table
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until you're sure that you know this thing that you're
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dealing with is is not a possibility. Right. But then
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when the Beast happened, it's like the way of thinking,
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you know, suddenly changed, like, oh no, this is always this,
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don't question it, don't look into it, don't you know whatever?
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But uh, yeah, I always loved stories about aliens. I
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always love stories about you know, lizard people and stuff
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like that. Of course I didn't really take them seriously,
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but I always thought they were fun. And I always thought,
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you know, hey, even if this isn't real, it's fun
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to think about things and what could be. So I
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always kinda I guess I've always had a little bit
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of loyalty to the foil, so to speak.
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Speaker 1: So I actually know someone that I've interviewed, and he
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has a podcast called Loyal to the Foil and Love
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It someone. Apparently it's also a drug reference, which I
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didn't know because someone asked me if I was loyal
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to the foil. I was like, what are you talking about?
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And apparently it was some sort of dope reference, Like
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I don't know if they meant pot, Like no, no.
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Speaker 2: I think it would be conspiracy theories.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, someone else took it as me saying I'm loyal
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to drugs. I was like, no, not at all.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, not even not even remotely right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't quite understand what all that was about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I've never oh my gosh, I would. I
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wonder if they're talking about like maybe rolled up marijuana
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or crackers. I don't even know how you could how
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you could make that reference. Does it come in like
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little foil packages or something. I don't even know. That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like I know from my early
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years or whatever, I've had friends or whatever, and I
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guess they kept some of their stuff in foil. But
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I mean, it's not really anything that I've never partaken in,
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so I don't I don't really get the connection to it.
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But yeah, that is one of the weird things that
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I've encountered. Why doing this show is sometimes people misconstrued
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whatever tinfoil is referencing. I was like, no, it's definitely
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talking about conspiracies and weird shit, not the drug aspect
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of it.
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Speaker 2: Gotcha, Oh my goodness, that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: So what are some of these conspiracies you've looked into? Like,
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what are the This is where I kind of fall
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in line with I think if there is a conspiracy,
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I think people look for reasons to find conspiracies, but
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at the same time, I think there are some that
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are actually true based off of certain things. What are
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some of the ones you've noticed that have a hint
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of truth to them.
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Speaker 2: So I very much believe that there is some truth
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to weather modification. There's so many historical references to them
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actually doing this, them seeding the clouds and Dubai, you know,
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they do that all the time. There was actually a
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military operation the sixties called Operation Popeye where the US
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military seated the clouds and tried to flood the ho
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Chiman trail, which was a critical supply route for the communists,
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So they were trying to cut off their supplies right,
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And of course didn't win the war, but it extended
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the monsoon season by five months. And that was I
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guess late sixties, early seventies, I forget the exact year,
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but you know, if they could do that sort of thing,
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then you know, what could they do now it stands
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to reason that yes they could. I will tell you
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I lived down in Texas and when that really bad
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flooding happened that you know, flooded, can't mist it and
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killed all those girls. The weather was behaving very very strangely.
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I mean, of course the weather does change fairly quickly
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down here, but it went from bright sunny, you know,
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one hundred and one degrees to dark and cloudy and
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just looking like the end of the world. I mean
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not even normal clouds, you know, within seconds, Like I
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was at work, I was looking outside, Oh, pretty sunny
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day whatever, you know, was typing on the computer for
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probably maybe five minutes to look back outside, and it
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looked like armageddon. And I couldn't believe it. I I mean,
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you can't tell me there's not something to it. And
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it was around that time when that tragedy happened. Uh
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so I think that they were involved in that, you know,
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Operation Popeye. We've already talked about the Lahina fires. Those
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are pretty suss. My next book is actually going to
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deal with that. That's where Truster's next adventure is going
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to be, and then his conspiracy crew are going to
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investigate the Lahina fires, are going to go to the
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island of Maui. There were strange fires that happened in
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East Texas that almost seemed to fall from the sky
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and destroyed a bunch of cattle ranches. They've been saying
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stuff about cows for years, you know, So that's that's
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one that I really do believe has some truth to it.
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I don't think they can control the weather completely, but
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I think that they're getting pretty darn good at it,
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and they might come to a point where they can.
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Speaker 1: I believe that they have the ability to produce weather
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in a sense like in the sixties where they did
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like seating, for in Vietnam, where they supposedly were causing
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monsoons by seating the clouds or whatever to flood. So
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if they were doing stuff like that back then, you know,
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they've learned to adapt to make things now. And I'm
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not saying they make all these storms and can directionally
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change how they go about.
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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't be surprised, right the possibilities on the table.
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Speaker 1: Right, I always leave a room for plausibility, and the
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things I've seen in life, it doesn't surprise me one
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way or another. I wouldn't be shocked if I found
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out that they can control weather, or I wouldn't be
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shocked if there's a whole lot more to stuff that
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we don't know about right.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, you know. And I almost feel like one of
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the conspiracies that I really buy that ties into this
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and really all conspiracies, is that they they try to
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portray people like you and I as just nuts, like,
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you know, completely garbage human beings, not worth listening to,
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in order to throw people off their trail. Because you know,
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if enough people you know, we're open minded and thought
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like you and I, then you know they would be
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in some trouble. They have some explaining to do. But
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just because they're able to discredit you know, our tribes
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so effectively and efficiently, you know, they've been able to
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continue this crap for years. That's my conspiracy theory that
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I think has some weight to it.
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Speaker 1: It's easier to make people look crazy. And that's where
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the whole ten foil aspect even comes into play. Is
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that is like us as a derogatory term through a
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lot of people anymore, Like they call you a tinfoil
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hatware or something like that, because anyone, anyone that believes
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in this type of stuff will you're clearly one of
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those people that wears a tinfoil hats. You think they're
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trying to read your brain waves. I don't necessarily know
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if they I need a tinfoil hat to protect me
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from that. I think they're reading my brain waves anyways,
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at this point, if that's a possibility, I think.
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Speaker 2: Well it's it's weird. Like sometimes I'll just think of
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something and I don't like to get on Facebook too much,
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but it is essential for you know, business these days,
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and I'll just be thinking of something and oh my goodness,
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it'll pop up in my feed. I'm like, Okay, what
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is going on here? And I actually saw a meme
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about that. Somebody made a meme about that and put
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it in a GAB, which is kind of an alternative, uh,
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you know, social media website. And I was like, yeah,
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that's that's really interest. But I'm sure it would get
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taken down on Facebook because you know, if anybody's doing it,
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it's Facebook who's reading the brainwaves.
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Speaker 1: There are I've I think I've told this a few
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times before, but this was probably back almost ten years ago.
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I'd say it's probably eight or nine years ago. I
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was driving home from work and I had an iPhone
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and it was just sitting there and I hadn't looked anything,
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I hadn't talked to anyone. I was by myself and
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for some reason, and I don't even know why, it
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popped in my head. It's like, I wonder how someone
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becomes like a notary public whereekns like sign official documents
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for people, like stuff like how did they do that?
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Like give them a stamp of approval. So I went
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on Google's I'm Driving, which you know you're not supposed
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to do that. But I put in how to and
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I don't remember if I put the comb or not,
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but literally I had the how to and the first
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thing that suggested it to me was become a notary
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of all things for Google to suggest. Why was it
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that I was literally thinking it? Yeah, It's like and
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I hadn't talked to anyone about it, I hadn't Googled
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it before. I hadn't done any of that stuff. I mean, like,
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this is a random thought. Yeah, and that pops up,
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and that's the first thing that it suggests, Like it
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finishes what I'm writing for me as a suggestion. I
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was like, I don't. I just set the phone down.
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I didn't even look into it any further. I didn't
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want to know anymore.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it's best not to know, right, But yeah,
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I think there's definitely something to that too.
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Speaker 1: So I've talked to a few other people, and they
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do believe that somehow these phones and electronics pick up
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our wavelengths of our brain from things we're thinking. And
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again it does sound very sci fi and it does
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sound like, oh, kind of crazy, But at the same time,
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it's like, I mean, when you have instances that this happens,
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and it's been happening a lot in the last ten years,
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like would you mention with Facebook like that's happened to me?
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I know a lot of people what happens to Like
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They'll think of things and all of a sudden you're
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going to suggest it ad on social media for it.
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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, It's like me, I was thinking of, oh,
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it would be cool to go to Japan, and I
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mean I think I might have mentioned something about it
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years ago, but it wasn't you know, a priority, and
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I kind of forgot about it and I'm like, oh,
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maybe I should look into that again or whatever, and
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here comes this ad for you know, guided tours in Japan.
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I was like, oh, okay, that just happened. You know,
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who's the crazy one. At this point, my tenfoil hat
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as a crown of honor. I swear.
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Speaker 1: I'd mentioned something. I actually mentioned this. I know they're
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always listening to phones or whatever, but I'd mentioned something
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about I've seen a car. I was like, I wonder
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how much that was or whatever. And then sure enough
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I started getting random advertisements on suggested ads on Facebook
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sponsored whatever they're called. It was random car dealerships. I
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didn't like, I know someone. So there's a setting in
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your phone you can turn that off. The fact is
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that it's just creepy that we'd have to even go
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in there and turn it off in the first place.
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To me, where's the invasion of privacy app exactly if
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the phone is always listening.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's like a little spy or something. It's crazy.
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Speaker 1: And again, I've talked to people about this before. I've
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had like actual real conversation with people while they're listening
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to my phone's sitting here listening to me right now. So,
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I mean, it is what it is. But it's just right.
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It's so enabled into our society these days that it's
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become natural and we've accepted the fact that we are
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never alone in the sense that someone or something is
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always around listening, whether we know it or not. Like
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that's just the reality of exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder about some of this AI stuff, like
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how much of it has a conscience, you know, complete
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lack thereof, or if there's even kind of a spiritual
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aspect to it. You know that of course, that's on
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a whole other level. But you know how much of
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that stuff is in the phones, and you know, is
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there a little AI spy like getting information for the
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government or whatever in the phone? I don't know, it's possible.
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Speaker 1: I think the versions that we have publicly are not
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the real versions that's actually available to people behind the scenes.
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Like government has probably a lot more advanced technology that
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they use rather than what's out here. So when we
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use Google, Gemini or chat, GPT or whatever these things are,
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I had set the back and think about what they're
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actually using that we don't even know about yet.
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Speaker 2: Yep, that's a good point. I'm sure it's I'm sure
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they've got several things that are way above what we have.
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I heard a story about the kid that was talking
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to this AI thing and it basically told him that
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it was a demon. It used the name like a
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Zazel or something like that, and uh, that it wanted
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his soul or something. So I wonder, you know, is
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there you know, spiritual aspect to this or not. I
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don't know. It's very creepy. It's kind of scary, but
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at the same time, it's it's interesting to think.
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Speaker 1: About the there's it is a conspiracy one one way
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or the other. But there is a belief that I know,
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there's a cartoon, it's an anime, but they call it
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ghost in the Machine or ghost in the shell or what.
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But basically the concept is for this conspiracy that it
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is a spiritual thing. They think it's almost demonic into
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a sense like we've accepted demons as ai. Yeah, I'm
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not really one to believe in all of that, just
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because I'm not a very spiritual type person in a
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sense that I don't think everything is a demon. But
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I know a lot of people that align with that,
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that think most of this type of stuff, like even
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aliens to an extent, are all variations of some sort
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of demonic presence.
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Speaker 2: And they've heard that. I've heard that theory.
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Speaker 1: They think the technology an AI. They think the brain
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part of an AI, which technically isn't a brain, but
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the concept would be a brain is based off of
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some sort of ancient demonic spirits or something. And again,
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like that's why I said, when it gets into conspiracy,
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something's just so far out there that it's like how
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far down the rabbit hole do you actually go, because
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when you start going so deep, it's hard to get
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back out of it, when you start believing every single
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thing out there right right. One of the other ones
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that I've had here recently is the five G. Oh yeah,
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a lot of people think five g's making people sick,
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which I'm not saying it's not a possibility. I don't
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know how the frequency ways work. I know, frequencies and stuff.
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Is a lot of things that we encounter. And these
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new EMF boxes they put out there for your electricity
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meters and everything, they're all digital, and people think those
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are ways of putting out electromaticity fields that are causing
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people to get sick. As like, I don't know if
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that's true. But again, maybe some people are susceptible too.
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Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, everyone's got kind of a different genetic makeup,
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and some may be more susceptible to others. I've heard
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a similar theory about the I'm sure you've you know
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about the Spanish flu in the early nineteen hundreds, right, yeah, yeah,
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So around that same time that the Spanish flu came out,
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that's what else came out, you know, the radio and
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Before then, you know, you didn't have widespread radio, you
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had telegraphs or whatever. But around the time that the
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Spanish flu came out, they had the widespread radio. And
00:21:12
so the theory is that it messed with everybody's you know,
00:21:16
electric system just enough to where a lot of people
00:21:20
got sick from it, because there is we do have
00:21:23
an electrical component to our bodies. You know, our heart
00:21:26
runs off electricity. You know, our nervous system has electricity
00:21:29
in it. Basically, so it's possible.
00:21:32
Speaker 1: It's very possible, which makes you wonder exactly, and this
00:21:39
is not related to anything in general, but like, if
00:21:42
everything is based off some sort of frequency and electricity,
00:21:47
if we are using all this stuff and we're surrounded
00:21:49
by it, I wonder if a lot of the things
00:21:51
that people experience aren't from something that we have caused,
00:21:55
from the electrical grids and the frequencies we've I don't
00:21:59
want to say manifested, but like maybe a lot of
00:22:02
the stuff here has always been around, but we've manifested
00:22:04
into our reality from us manipulating the frequency waves around us,
00:22:10
from all the devices we have.
00:22:11
Speaker 2: Yep, I mean it's possible. You know, we have a
00:22:14
lot of type two diabetes these days, and you know,
00:22:19
is it how much of it is from being overweight
00:22:22
and bad diet and you know the other part of it,
00:22:25
maybe the devices are affecting people's pancreases to the point
00:22:29
where they don't, you know, release enough insulin or whatever,
00:22:33
so that that's a possibility.
00:22:37
Speaker 1: There is a rise. And not to flag myself here,
00:22:42
but there is a rise with children and everything like.
00:22:46
And I don't know if a lot of people say
00:22:48
it's because of certain things that we give our children
00:22:50
at young ages that they're all required to get.
00:22:53
Speaker 2: For the most part, I understand that.
00:22:56
Speaker 1: Yet yeah, man, dates, yeah, and kids have a like
00:23:02
they're autistic, they have other things going, and they blame
00:23:05
it on the mandates as to part of that. And
00:23:09
I've actually tried to look at this, and they claim
00:23:11
there's no proof of this, but if you actually look
00:23:13
at the cases of the rise in that, it almost
00:23:15
does look like I can see where people would believe
00:23:18
that conspiracy because there has been an uptick of it,
00:23:21
But there's also some things in it that people aren't considering,
00:23:25
and a huge rise. There's been a big jump in
00:23:28
the last twenty years. Well in the last twenty years,
00:23:30
what does everyone had around them and on them at
00:23:32
all times a cell phone?
00:23:34
Speaker 2: Right right?
00:23:36
Speaker 1: Our kids have tablets these days, everything's a screen's been
00:23:39
pushed on them. The computers, the Internet, all this type
00:23:41
of stuff has been pushed. So if you look at
00:23:43
the rise of the internet and how everything's become digitalized,
00:23:46
from everything, you'll see a rise in autism and everything
00:23:51
else that seems to be going, like all these new
00:23:53
little weird sicknesses that are happening and the rise of stuff.
00:23:57
Is it from the frequencies from these devices that using
00:24:00
that's causing us to have these defects.
00:24:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also a very strong possibility. I mean everywhere
00:24:08
I look, you know, people take their kids out and
00:24:11
when if they're little, they have like this tablet right
00:24:14
in front of them, like right in front of them.
00:24:17
We're talking two three four year olds. And you know,
00:24:21
when my kids were little, and it wasn't that long ago,
00:24:25
I brought toys, I brought books, I brought things to color,
00:24:29
you know, stuff like that. I would never think of
00:24:33
putting them just right in front of a screen. In fact,
00:24:36
I felt guilty when I let them, you know, have
00:24:39
too much television, like watch you know, TV for too long,
00:24:43
I'd shut it off and try to get them to
00:24:45
do something else. I really tried to limit that, but
00:24:49
now it's like it, you know, just right in front
00:24:52
of their faces, and it's it's crazy everywhere I look.
00:24:55
So there's definitely something to what you're talking about. And
00:24:58
I mean, could it be causing autism or even making
00:25:01
it worse or some of these other things like add depression.
00:25:07
I've seen, you know, a lot of depression in young
00:25:08
people which you didn't used to see before. So it's
00:25:13
interesting to consider these things.
00:25:16
Speaker 1: A lot of people try and explain it away as well.
00:25:19
We're more knowing of these type of things. We're able
00:25:23
to detect it better. As we've gotten better with technology,
00:25:26
they've been able to determine these issues with people. And
00:25:29
I'm like, well, possibly, or we're detecting more of it
00:25:35
now because more people actually have it based off the
00:25:37
stuff that we're doing, like the stuff we put in
00:25:39
our bodies, the food we eat everything out there, especially
00:25:44
around here. I always feel like if you look at
00:25:46
the ingredients of things that they put in our food,
00:25:51
it doesn't always sound very healthy.
00:25:54
Speaker 2: No, a lot of times it doesn't. It's very hard
00:25:57
to eat clean even of the mead. I mean, you
00:26:01
know how much of it is andjected with you know,
00:26:04
the mandate or whatever. How much of it is you know,
00:26:09
grass fed versus GMO cornfed. You know, it is very interesting.
00:26:17
The Rockefellers in the early I think it was the
00:26:20
nineteen hundreds went through this whole legal battle to get
00:26:25
milk pasteurized. I mean, of all the things to spend
00:26:29
their money on, why would they spend their money on that?
00:26:33
And I heard a story about this woman that her
00:26:37
kid had autism, okay, and it was really bad, and she,
00:26:41
I guess, moved out to the country and she knew
00:26:44
somebody with a cow and she had her kid just
00:26:47
drink the whole milk right like, straight from the cow,
00:26:50
no pastorization, no filter or no anything. And supposedly he
00:26:53
got better. And if you look at the Rockefellers and
00:26:58
what they're about, they were, you know, founders of big pharma,
00:27:04
and so you know, it makes sense to make the customers,
00:27:09
make them sick so that you can make them better. Right,
00:27:15
So there's that to consider.
00:27:17
Speaker 1: Also, there's one thing about the big pharma that I
00:27:22
will always go back to is they don't want to
00:27:26
cure people, because then they lose a customer. They only
00:27:29
want to make you well enough to prolong your sickness
00:27:31
in order to have the repeat customer come back. That's
00:27:34
why the medical field, everyone is always sick and there's
00:27:36
always something going on with people, and they always want
00:27:39
you to get these new mandates or they want you
00:27:40
to take this new Oh, we can't cure cancer, we
00:27:44
can't care or we can't cure the common cold, but
00:27:47
we can manufacture some all of a sudden mandate thing
00:27:51
that we're going to stick in to you to cure
00:27:54
this new thing that's out here fighting everyone the beast
00:27:56
in less than a year. But right, we can't fix
00:28:01
things that have been around for years and years and
00:28:03
years that we've done so much studies on. Doesn't that
00:28:08
make people question how they could rapidly figure that out
00:28:11
but they can't cure other things?
00:28:14
Speaker 2: But well, I definitely question it. Like I said, my
00:28:18
background is actually in the health industry, and there's very
00:28:23
few drugs out there that completely cure things, very few.
00:28:28
Most of them are just managing something. So that makes
00:28:34
you wonder. It's like, what is the real goal here?
00:28:37
You know, are we trying to make people better or
00:28:40
are we trying to, like you said, just make them
00:28:43
a customer, keep them along line, but long enough so
00:28:46
they can be, you know, your customer. I actually have
00:28:49
a character in actually both books. His name is How.
00:28:55
He's elaborate, and he talks about his experiences while working
00:29:01
for Big Pharma, and uh, it's uh the things that
00:29:07
he says. I really can't say on your show because
00:29:10
I don't want it to get banned. So you have
00:29:12
to read the book if you if you want to
00:29:14
check out How and his thoughts on Big Pharma. But
00:29:19
it Yeah, I totally agree with you that there's something
00:29:23
to it. You know, you don't want to cure people,
00:29:25
you just want to you just want to manage them,
00:29:27
make them a customer.
00:29:29
Speaker 1: I just feel like for me, and this is just
00:29:32
my opinion, which means nothing. So anyone listening, like you
00:29:35
can believe what you choose to believe. But if they
00:29:39
wanted to help people, a lot of the stuff I was.
00:29:46
I have medical stuff that I don't really talk about,
00:29:49
but like just for certain treatments or whatever for myself,
00:29:51
if I wanted to actually, if I needed to do this,
00:29:54
I was pricing it. It would be hundreds of thousands
00:29:57
of dollars a year if I didn't have it insurance, wow,
00:30:03
which I do, so it wouldn't be that much. But
00:30:05
I don't need treatment or anything. But I was just
00:30:08
looking at with something were to happen and I needed
00:30:11
the amount of money or just one person, it's insane
00:30:16
of how much. And then again, it's not a cure.
00:30:18
It's just to treat things, right, So it's like it
00:30:23
prolongs stuff. Like, it's not a cure, it won't ever
00:30:26
go away, but it just helps prolong stuff. Okay, well,
00:30:31
why can't we figure out why things like this happened
00:30:33
in the first place? And how come we can't figure
00:30:35
out how to get rid of things? But we can
00:30:39
always manage to make ways to help people prolong the disease.
00:30:44
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I So another interesting fact is that
00:30:53
up until I think it was the early nineteen twenties,
00:30:57
most medical schools in the US had a natureceutical model. Okay,
00:31:04
what that meant is that you know, if you you know,
00:31:09
if you had like, uh, chronic headaches or chronic blood
00:31:14
cloths or something, you were going to get cherry bark. Okay,
00:31:17
So cherry bark is basically, you know what aspirin is
00:31:20
made from right. It's one of the components of right.
00:31:23
But they would actually give their patients cherry bark. And
00:31:26
that's just an example. Okay. There are a lot of
00:31:29
other you know cures out there that they used to
00:31:32
teach people and they don't anymore. And then again, a
00:31:36
lot of money was spent to try to switch the
00:31:40
medical schools from the natuaceutical model to the you know,
00:31:45
big pharma model. And there are a lot of really
00:31:50
beautiful natroceuticals out there that aren't being used that work
00:31:54
really well. Uh. One of them for diabetes, I'm just
00:32:00
to bring this up is sail on cinnamon. If you
00:32:04
have completely out of control diabetes, it's probably not gonna work.
00:32:08
But if it's just kind of if you're like borderline
00:32:11
or if you are you know, you know, maybe he
00:32:16
will globe an ae C E eight or lust or
00:32:18
something like that. It will lower. The other one is berbering,
00:32:23
which is derived from a plant, so you can try those,
00:32:27
uh so. And then the Indians, the Native Americans, I
00:32:32
should say, uh, use cactus juice for diabetes. There's a
00:32:37
cactus that has this bright purple juice and it's found
00:32:41
in Texas and they would use it. So there's a
00:32:44
lot of these things out there that people used to
00:32:47
use and then I kind of forgot about them. But
00:32:50
they still exist, and you know, you can still you
00:32:53
can still look into them.
00:32:56
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of things that we don't look at
00:33:00
modern science here. I don't feel like like because we
00:33:03
are more and I don't want the correct term, but
00:33:07
we're more evolved in like the science fields or something like.
00:33:13
But if you look at like some of the ancient
00:33:16
remedies for things that help people had years and ago,
00:33:20
it seemed like it helped people back then, but nowadays
00:33:24
we don't do any of that stuff. It's considered old
00:33:29
wacky stuff, you know what I mean. Like even like acupuncture.
00:33:31
They claim there's never been anything proven from Chinese acupuncture
00:33:34
that it helps people, but I know someone that goes
00:33:36
and gets that done and they swear to it that
00:33:39
it helps.
00:33:40
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean. Chiropractic is another one that helps
00:33:44
people with chronic back issues and neck issues and things
00:33:47
like that. It's certainly not for everyone because you have
00:33:52
to be able to relax enough for them to adjust you.
00:33:54
But for the people that can do that, it works.
00:33:57
Wanders and that's pretty old science. So and that doesn't
00:34:03
involve medication, that just involves you know, manipulation and posture
00:34:08
and things like that.
00:34:10
Speaker 1: A lot of modern people claim that that again, like
00:34:12
even chiropractor stuff is all mental aspects. It's like a
00:34:17
placebo where you think you're getting help and it's not
00:34:21
really doing anything for you, and you just keep going
00:34:23
back because oh, I got to go go get my
00:34:24
back cracked again, I gotta go do this, I got
00:34:26
to go pop this. And they claim it's not really
00:34:29
fixing anything. It's just giving you that mental idea that
00:34:32
it is. Signing with acupuncture like or maybe it does
00:34:37
help people, you never know, like.
00:34:40
Speaker 2: If someone I think different therapies help for different types
00:34:44
of people and different types of conditions, you know, and
00:34:49
depending upon what you've got going on, you should you
00:34:51
should try something until it works. And you know, it's
00:34:56
unfortunate that people that are in medicine try to discredit
00:35:02
other people like acupuncture practitioners or chiropractors or you know,
00:35:07
nature paths or people like this, because you know, one
00:35:10
would think we, you know, you should all be on
00:35:13
the same team if you're trying to help somebody, and
00:35:15
you know, just because you can't doesn't mean this person
00:35:18
over here can't. You know, you don't. You don't need to,
00:35:24
you know, detegrate what they're doing just because it's something different.
00:35:29
Speaker 1: Right, There's all sorts of different fields out there, and
00:35:32
everyone is able to look into things, and what helps
00:35:36
one person might not help someone else. But as long
00:35:38
as someone's doing something, they're genuinely helping someone, I don't
00:35:42
see why it hurts to just let the person do
00:35:47
what they have to do to not be in pain.
00:35:51
Speaker 2: Right, you know, everybody should be able to choose how
00:35:54
their bodies are treated. You know. That's why I think
00:35:59
the man was so wrong. You know, to me, it
00:36:02
didn't give people a lot of choice.
00:36:05
Speaker 1: So I struggle with this, and I'm not trying to
00:36:09
split hairs between different things, but it was more political
00:36:14
for me than it was for anyone's health purposes. And
00:36:21
if the roles were reversed, how many would have been
00:36:24
against it, you know what I mean? Because a certain
00:36:31
agenda was being pushed, I think, more so than anything else.
00:36:34
And then I will not forget the people that have
00:36:39
made the celebrities and the news people and everything else,
00:36:42
claiming that the people that don't get the mandate, they're
00:36:46
causing all these other people to potentially die and they're
00:36:49
in fact that's why it doesn't go away. Blah blah blah. Right, Yet,
00:36:55
there have been a lot of people that have gotten
00:36:57
those mandates that have had health issues and some of
00:36:59
it even asked away. It was weird chronic things. So
00:37:02
it's like, what was really going on here we didn't
00:37:05
know the side effects is that the mandates were never
00:37:07
tested for side effects.
00:37:11
Speaker 2: Right, Well, this is one of the things in my
00:37:14
book that hal the Labra talks about because he he
00:37:19
actually worked on the mandate and when he's talking to
00:37:23
the conspiracy crew he tells them a little bit about
00:37:26
it and why they have to stop it basically. But yeah,
00:37:33
it was political. There was an unfortunate political aspect to it.
00:37:39
And you know, medicine should never be political. It's it's
00:37:44
just medicine. And I think it made a lot of
00:37:48
people lose trust in their doctors, which I mean rightly, so,
00:37:54
you know, but at the same time, you know, there
00:37:58
were a lot of good people that lost that trust
00:38:00
and they weren't part of that. They were trying to,
00:38:05
you know, practice as ethically as they could during that time,
00:38:09
and it wasn't easy.
00:38:11
Speaker 1: You know, my former doctor. I use the word former
00:38:15
because I was seeing him and I had the Beast,
00:38:22
and he recommended a certain cocktail of stuff that actually
00:38:25
did make me better. And he said that he was
00:38:30
not going to force mandates and recommend it to people
00:38:32
because he thinks people should have their own opinion on
00:38:34
it and he's not wanting to push that on anybody.
00:38:38
And not long after all that, he was no longer
00:38:41
employed where I was going. Yeah, and I don't know,
00:38:47
I know he was gotten rid of in the sense
00:38:50
of it was fired, but I don't know what the
00:38:53
justifications as to why he was removed. But very weird
00:38:58
timing of the whole situation when he's telling PEO people
00:39:00
that he's not going to push certain things and now
00:39:02
he's no longer employed at these places, right right, Yeah.
00:39:07
Speaker 2: I know. I I know a lot of people that
00:39:09
that happened to. I know somebody that I'm pretty sure
00:39:12
died from the Beast. Young guy under forty four kids
00:39:17
under the age of ten. He was the Army's poster
00:39:24
child for this thing, and he was all over Facebook.
00:39:30
You know, get get get the get the Mandy, get
00:39:34
the you know, you know, he was their little cheerleader.
00:39:38
And a year later he was out for a run
00:39:42
at Fort Levenworth. There's just this big there's this big
00:39:46
track out there. It's, uh, goes around kind of this
00:39:49
you know, rinky airfield where you can land you know,
00:39:52
a little private planes, little sessenas and things like that.
00:39:57
But it doesn't have a lot of traffic, that airport.
00:40:00
It's it's pretty remote still. And so going around that
00:40:05
as this track and he was out running and they
00:40:09
couldn't find him, and they went out searching and they
00:40:13
finally found him there and he was dead and they
00:40:18
say it was a you know, a heart attack. You
00:40:24
can't you can't tell me that. You know that those
00:40:26
things didn't used to happen to people like that, you know,
00:40:30
they're that fit. This guy was a major in the army.
00:40:35
He ran marathons. I mean, I I don't buy that
00:40:39
that was natural. I think that that was from what
00:40:42
he was involved in, what he was forced to do.
00:40:45
Speaker 1: So I don't disagree with that one at all, just
00:40:49
because even people that around my age or younger that
00:40:54
I know that I've seen the post and again I
00:40:57
can't verify if what I'm seeing on the internet is
00:40:59
true anymore, no one does. But there's so many people
00:41:03
that were pushing for stuff like that, and they've been
00:41:05
sick since then and they've had issues since then. And
00:41:09
I don't know of anyone in my own personal life
00:41:13
that had done it to where they've had like any
00:41:17
sort of significant side effects from it. But at the
00:41:20
same time, they're not saying there won't be. And I'm
00:41:27
not one that doesn't follow mandate like my I have
00:41:31
mine because we all had to. My kids have theirs, like,
00:41:34
but that's the one thing that we didn't push on anybody.
00:41:39
And I know specifically people from families during that time
00:41:45
didn't want anyone to come around because they didn't have theirs.
00:41:50
It's almost like it was put into like divide people like, oh,
00:41:53
you're on this side of the fence, all you're on this,
00:41:55
so we can't be. It caused turmoil.
00:41:59
Speaker 2: It was like a sick cult, you know, like an
00:42:05
unhealthy religion. You know, they're there are religions out there
00:42:09
that are I think, you know, good for people, bring
00:42:13
people meaning and you know, purpose and all this, and
00:42:18
then their occults, right, and those things are more about
00:42:23
control and you know, dominating people than they are about
00:42:29
connection to God. And I feel like what happened was
00:42:36
almost a sick cult. You know, it had this weird
00:42:40
kind of religious aspect to it in which people almost
00:42:46
kind of worshiped it in a way, not consciously but subconsciously.
00:42:53
I think quite a few people did.
00:42:58
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people needed this for some
00:43:02
and I mean it in like they had to have
00:43:04
something to rebel against other people. Look, I keep seeing
00:43:11
stuff like this, and maybe it's just me being a
00:43:14
conspiracy brained person at this point, but I always feel
00:43:16
like they want us to always be against each other.
00:43:19
If it's not like racial tensions, if it's not political
00:43:23
or left and right, they find somehow to implement things
00:43:29
that cause people to resent one another. And I feel
00:43:36
like that was one of the things that was being pushed.
00:43:39
And it's why I said it's very political, because during
00:43:43
all that time, that entire year was nothing but craziness
00:43:49
of it was an election year. It was this new
00:43:55
disease is here, this new sickness. All of a sudden,
00:44:00
now we have rioting, we have protesting. Like that whole
00:44:03
year was just non stop, something crazy going on, and
00:44:11
it kept going on for the next year. Or two,
00:44:13
and it was just being pushed more and more and more,
00:44:15
and now you don't really even hear about the stuff anymore.
00:44:18
They're like, oh, it's not everyone got there. Well, no,
00:44:20
a lot of people didn't get that stuff and it
00:44:22
went away naturally. Now people, oh, it's like the flu
00:44:26
where you got to go get your year. Leash almost
00:44:28
said the word but you know what I mean, like
00:44:31
you have to go. And now it's just like no
00:44:34
one even cares. It's not like a big deal anymore.
00:44:36
But for some reason, it was a huge ordeal that year.
00:44:40
For some reason, I was like, well, is because again
00:44:42
it was an election year. Almost every election year something
00:44:44
crazy has to happen.
00:44:47
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there is the theory, and this is pretty nuts.
00:44:55
You're gonna have to really put your foot on for
00:44:56
this one. But there's a theory that the United States
00:45:01
has actually been conquered by a people whose purposes to
00:45:09
basically get rid of the founding stock on and form
00:45:15
a new world order. I mean, it sounds really fantastical.
00:45:22
It's a little depressing when you really dig down deep
00:45:26
into it. But if it were true, or even partially true,
00:45:32
it would make sense why things like this happen every
00:45:35
election year, or why they're always constantly trying to divide
00:45:39
people or why you know, it's it's either racial or
00:45:44
it's the the beast, or it's you know, fill in
00:45:47
the blank. Right, We've even got like Palestine versus Israel
00:45:53
riots and stuff, and it's like, okay, that's that's not here,
00:45:56
that's across the you know, way across the ocean. I
00:46:00
don't think any of us really understands that well, you know,
00:46:03
but anyway, whatever, that's neither here nor there. My point is,
00:46:07
you're right, they do divide, they do keep things chaotic,
00:46:11
and the reason for that would be to keep us
00:46:15
from noticing what's actually happened to the country that I
00:46:19
don't know if you've heard that theory before, but uh,
00:46:24
it's a pretty interesting one.
00:46:27
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've heard it in that context,
00:46:29
but i've heard basically, and I've thought this for a
00:46:34
long time. But the things that go on, like the
00:46:39
people that are out front, the people that we supposedly
00:46:42
put in charge or whatever, it's not like we really
00:46:45
have the power to determine who gets put in those
00:46:47
things or are more or less just a face, a
00:46:49
puppet and that's someone to blame and hate. Why the
00:46:52
real things that go on behind the scenes, we don't
00:46:54
even know those people's names. That's like the ultimate conspiracy
00:46:57
is they're just puppets, and the real puppet masters no
00:47:01
one even knows their names, even like when we mentioned
00:47:03
Rockefellers or the roth Child's or whatever. If you know
00:47:05
their their names, then you're they're not really the ones
00:47:10
pulling the strings because those are just we wouldn't know
00:47:13
the people that are actually the ones involved. I was like,
00:47:15
I mean, that's like the Boogeyman's story, Like there's always
00:47:18
a Boogeyman under your bed or in the closet or
00:47:20
something like that is what we always hear. The infamous
00:47:23
they that no one knows even who they are is
00:47:26
because we just prefer them as they because they shall
00:47:28
not be names. We don't know them. Is again like
00:47:33
it's almost that old Boogeyman's story of the person in
00:47:36
the shadows. So is that true or not? I have
00:47:39
no idea, but that's just kind of where all the
00:47:42
stems from.
00:47:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you've read a nineteen eighty four.
00:47:50
Speaker 1: I haven't read it, but I know what it is.
00:47:52
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, Well, basically in the book, there's this
00:47:56
scene where they have like two minutes of hate at
00:48:00
this one guy that supposedly betrayed their country. Okay, and
00:48:06
uh so what everybody does is every morning, you know,
00:48:10
they have to watch the TV and then on comes
00:48:14
the two minutes of hate and they show the guy's
00:48:17
picture and everybody screams at the picture, and they throw things,
00:48:21
and they you know, stamp their feet and they get
00:48:23
as wild and crazy as they possibly can screaming at
00:48:26
this image. To me, it almost reminds me of that, like, Okay,
00:48:33
you don't get to know who's really controlling people, controlling everything.
00:48:36
But here's your here's your somebody to take your anger
00:48:39
out on. You know, here's here's your Trump, here's your Obama,
00:48:43
here's your whoever you want to hate, right, you know,
00:48:46
scream at them for two minutes, but don't don't pay
00:48:50
attention to the people that are, you know, putting the
00:48:52
image up on the screen in first place.
00:48:53
Speaker 1: Right, right, No attention to the man behind the.
00:48:56
Speaker 2: Curtain, right right, right, right.
00:49:00
Speaker 1: Well, we've been going on for almost fifty minutes and
00:49:03
I try and keep them to around an hour. So
00:49:05
before we wrap this up. I would like for you
00:49:06
to let everyone know where they can find your books at,
00:49:10
where they can order them, or anything else that you
00:49:13
would like to share before we wrap this up.
00:49:17
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I've really enjoyed talking to you. It's been
00:49:20
an honor and a pleasure. My books are on Amazon,
00:49:24
They're also on Abe Books. I've seen them. I've seen
00:49:27
them on Barnes and Noble. The first one is called
00:49:30
Tales of American Idiocy. It's got a picture of an
00:49:33
orange cat wearing a tenfoil hat, and then the other
00:49:37
one Conspiracy Crew. The end is now is basically a
00:49:41
continuation of Chester's adventures, and it's got a picture of
00:49:45
these pets staring at these screens. They're in kind of
00:49:49
this underground you know, kind of video gamers looking room,
00:49:55
and they're all wearing tenfoil hats.
00:49:58
Speaker 1: So I didn't sponsor them for anyone listening, not a
00:50:05
Tinfoil Tel sponsored book, but it is that aligns with
00:50:10
it definitely.
00:50:11
Speaker 2: So I think your viewers would like checking out Chester
00:50:16
and his very band of misfits. I think they'd have fun.
00:50:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyone out there listening, I definitely recommend checking
00:50:23
them out. You know, the show you know, we're into
00:50:27
the name of the show is Tinfoil Tells, so you know,
00:50:30
the type of stuff that I'm interested in. So for
00:50:34
anyone listening, I do recommend checking them out.
00:50:37
Speaker 2: Yep. And the second one, well, the first one just
00:50:41
has that one story in there that deals with you know,
00:50:43
the beast and the mandates. The second one deals with
00:50:47
those two things, but it also talks about weather modification.
00:50:51
It talks a little bit about that last conspiracy where
00:50:55
you know, the US has actually been taken over by
00:50:57
a group of people we don't know their names, so
00:51:01
it gets a little bit into that. It gets a
00:51:03
little bit into climate, the climate stuff. I don't know
00:51:07
how much I'm allowed to say about that, but it
00:51:10
kind of it dabbles in several theories, and I'm just gonna,
00:51:14
you know, as long as there's an interest, I'm going
00:51:16
to continue testers adventures and I'm going to continue to
00:51:19
explore these things, you know, until the Feds take me out.
00:51:22
I mean, that's just what I'm going to continue to
00:51:24
do because I love this stuff. I love looking at
00:51:27
the world differently than everybody else does, and I love
00:51:31
just exploring possibilities.
00:51:34
Speaker 1: Just don't bring up stories about a certain ex president
00:51:37
and his wife, because you may end up having to
00:51:43
take yourself out, yourself with two holes in the back
00:51:46
of your head.
00:51:49
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, he I don't. I don't really want
00:51:53
to get into those two. There's some things that I
00:51:59
just really Oh, they're so unpleasant. I got a whole
00:52:04
story for you. I mean, it would take up too
00:52:08
much time. But I actually met a guy that was
00:52:12
involved in that and knows a little bit about them.
00:52:16
He actually, at the age of forty five, decided to
00:52:20
become an MD because he felt so bad about what
00:52:24
he'd done in his former life that this was the
00:52:27
penance he assigned himself that he would do this and
00:52:31
just never retire. So, but yeah, that I'm gonna stay
00:52:37
away from those two just because they're just so unpleasant.
00:52:39
I like fun conspiracies. I mean I like dark ones,
00:52:46
but there are some that are just too dark for Chester,
00:52:48
and that's one of them.
00:52:50
Speaker 1: So now, no one wants to see Chester have to
00:52:54
go through that.
00:52:55
Speaker 2: No, we don't want to see Chester and his friends
00:52:58
suicide themselves, but that's we're not going to do that.
00:53:03
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, it has been a pleasure talking with you.
00:53:08
Speaker 2: Pleasure talking to you too.
00:53:10
Speaker 1: For anyone out there listening, again, make sure to check
00:53:13
out the books. I will put a link in the
00:53:14
show notes, but we're going to wrap this up, so
00:53:17
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