Ep. 234: Channeling the Librarians

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me. Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to tin Foil Tell So I'm joined with my guest Laura. Thanks for coming on here and talking with me. Thank you. I'm really looking forward to our conversation. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself before we dive into it. Sure, I have such a unique background. I am a former corporate attorney. I left the practice of law and started channeling, and I'm a betrayal recovery expert, I went through a pretty horrific infidelity with my husband. Going through that experience cracked me open in so many different ways. But I think in the most profound way, is it really connected me to what I call them the librarians and it's the group of spirit guides that I channel. How I'm sure we'll get into it, but like I. That was a lot right there. I know that was a lot, right, Yeah, like the spirit guides the librarians. How did that all come about? Or is this something that you'll touch base on if, like during the conversation, because. You know a little bit of both. Okay, here's the backstory. I met my husband the first day of law school, and when I met him, I heard this voice in my head very clearly, say that's the man you're going to marry. And I thought, well, that's really really weird because I'm engaged and he's actually married and I have no interest in that, And that's weird that that was such a strong voice in my head. That was not my own voice, that was not my own. Thought, that was almost like an external voice whispering. In my head. And I thought, well, that's really weird. Fast forward a year, I had broken up with my fiance. He was getting a divorce. We were still friends. Fast forward through more years, you know, we're dating and we do get married, and I think, well, that's really that's that's really interesting. Several other times in my life I would hear that same voice in my head and I would listen to it because it sounded it always sounded right on, but I didn't know where it came from. When I first walked away from practicing law, I started indulging myself in all of the weird paranormal spirituality world that had always been the place where I was the most excited, the most attracted. But I thought that I had to you know, grow up and be serious and not indulge that side of myself at all. Well, when I walked away from practicing lie, I'm like, you know what, this is my opportunity. I'm I'm doing it all energy work, metaphysical aliens, energy, like I'm just going to learn everything that I can about this world because this is my passion. And I did, and I started you know, doing some like mediumship and honing my intuition and energy and spirits and all of that stuff and aliens and like you name it. I went down all the different rabbit holes. And although I felt very intuitive in my own right and connected in my own right, I never I never felt like I had, you know, like you read stories about these people and they're like, and I connect with these people, and I've been abducted and I've done all. I never had like that, that one big thing that was me Right before I found out about my husband's infidelity. I found out after we had been married for twenty three years, So twenty two years into our marriage, I hear that same voice in my head downloading this framework and it's this Flaunt framework and I think, well, that's really buz are this is really cool? But it's really bizarre and I didn't really know what this healing framework was. Well then a. Year later, I find out that he's been cheating on me for fifteen years with multiple women. Oh yeah, And. Infidelity is the most devastating thing to go through because it ruptures your identity. You don't know what's real. Like everything that I've relied on it's not real, vacations, anniversaries, my kid's entire childhood, like really what was real and what was not real? And when I was in that place of really having no identity, not knowing what was up what was down. I was on a flight and I started hearing that voice in my head again, and you know when you're on a fly and there's like all that white noise and you're kind of in your own little world. I'm realizing there's this whole conversation going on, and I'm talking back and forth and I'm having a conversation. Well, I become aware that I'm. Having a conversation, and instead of having it disappear, I stay present with it, and I have this conversation and then I say, Okay, what is this? Who are you? Who am I talking to? And they said, very matter of fact, well, we're the librarians. And I'm like, who are the librarians and why are you talking to me? And they said they are in the acacic realm. The acacic realm is where the records of every individual's lifetimes is stored, so like the record of each person's soul, they sit above those records and they pull out and categorize all of the lessons that humans have learned throughout eternity. So like every human who has experienced betrayal, what did they learn, What did they do right? What did they do wrong? The librarians pull out and categorize all that information around betrayal, like around war, abandonment, judgment, fear, whatever those lessons are. They pull out every single soul's learning and categorize that. So we have like these books. Of wisdom around all of these issues. And what they told me is this is in service of humanity goes through these lessons, and once we as a collective have learned this lesson enough, that issue can dissolve from the planet, like we can be a place without fear, without judgment, without whatever it is, when enough of us have learned that lesson. And that's who they told me that they were. And I said, well, why why are you talking to me? And they said, because you're at this crucial point right now with this betrayal, and you're thinking this is all about you, And yeah, you as an individual, you as a soul, of course you have lessons to learn. You were going through this for a reason, but more importantly, you're also doing this on behalf of humanity, just like every other human and the lessons that they learn and the things that they do are also being done on behalf of humanity, and we need you to understand this. It's not just every person out there doing things on their own as we all make decision. Those decisions that we make, those things that we do impact humanity and collective consciousness. As a whole. The kashik i always screw up the pronunciation of it. I've heard it from several people before. But for anyone that's not familiar with it, what are like, how would someone understand what those actually were? Yeah, it's it's your history, but it's not only your history in this lifetime. It's think about the moment your soul was created. You know, whether you believe that was. Hundreds of thousands of millions of years ago or whether you believe that we just get one incarnation, that's up to you. But it's the entire history of the things that you were experiencing, the things that you were going through, the pain, the love, the joy, the lessons. I mean, even just think about your self. You know, as a. Two year old, when you're learning how to separate from your parents depending on the kind of parents that you have, or you learning conditional love or unconditional love, growing up pure pressure, heartbreak like mistakes, that we make. These are all of the things that are stored in the record of our soul, so we can evolve, so we can learn, so we can elevate, so we can become that higher level of consciousness. And the records of who we are and what we have been through are there for us to access and learn from. At any time. But we tend to forget. We tend to think that we're just these lowly humans on a planet out here struggling on our own. We forget that there's many different dimensions. There's many different beings who are out there, There's many different layers of reality. And when we can tap into those Akashak records, it opens up that multidimensionality and brings it home to us. So ideally we make better choices and we do a better job in our lifetime because we become a multidimensional being instead of just this three D human struggling out there on their own. This is where I start to wonder about things, because there are other beings, there's other realities that we live in, so or that love amongst us, I should say yes that for how we are here. No, you don't have the direct answer like anyone has a definitive answer. But like in your interpretation, what is the like why are we here in this sense when other beings are able to do things that we can't? So how did we get to the point where at now in this realm? Right right? And you're right, there's so many different theories around that. How I see it, how I feel is all beings in every realm. We are all the same at a soul spark level, whatever you want to call it. I call it the soul. But we have different incarnations. We can incarnate on different planets, in different realities, any of us can. We choose to come to different realities, to different places in time for different reasons. And like I was in Egypt last year on a really big pilgrimage, and what I was really working on that is why why are we here? Why? If we are celestial beings by nature, why have we chosen to limit ourselves to this planet? And what I get a lot is there's almost the game around it. I am going to go here and I am going to try to break free. I'm going to go here and I'm going to learn. I'm going to go here and I'm going to experience these different things in service of, again the elevation of everybody, every being on every different level, because if you think about multidimensionality, we have from the high to the low, and we have beings that have to anchor in every dimension. So if we're incarnating multiple times, we can incarnate up and down that spectrum because we're all holding different frequencies, We're all choosing to experience those different frequencies, those different realities because when we do, we know more, we understand more, and we become multi dimensional ourselves. And that's how I feel like why we're doing it in service of that full connection, that full multi dimensionality and being able to know every perspective from a personal level, I. Think for me, and this is just me spitballing here when it comes to like the alternate realities and different things. I was actually having this discussion today, and this is not to derail what you're saying, but we have, like I work with a couple different people and we were talking about how some like there's almost it seems that we are in almost a simulated reality to an extent, and very much there were things that we've noticed that are different. Some people call them Bendel effect that we were talking today about how we remember specific things that apparently weren't true, but for some reason or not, we all have a group me of specific things like the cornucopia on the fruit of the Loom logo or just things like that. M does this have any sort of play into some of the things like it would you've looked into and you've experienced why we would have different memories that they're no longer true? Here is that something that to where like the reality we were from at one point is now morphed into the one where we're currently all in. Yeah? How when you think about it as timelines and that everything is potential and you can sit here like right now and you can think about what would happen if I did whatever it is? What would happen if I dated this person, married this person, left this person. What would happen if I went out and drove my car, you know into a building? I mean, we can think through all of these crazy scenarios. And as we're thinking through these crazy scenarios, we're creating a bit of a timeline. And sometimes we can start walking down a path with our intentionality and then we can change that. But we have created like that imprint around it. And when we get a lot of people creating the same thing and thinking the same thing, we create a stronger and stronger timeline. So, like you talk about the Mandela effect, if one of my favorite Bible quotes, and I'm not a religious person, but one of my favorite Bible quotes is wherever two or more gathered in his name? Because how I see that is wherever to or more are thinking about the same timeline, that timeline becomes stronger and stronger. So if I have this memory of Nelson Mandela dying in prison, and then I tell you about it, and you think through how that might be, and then you tell somebody else, and then suddenly we've got this timeline in collective consciousness, that becomes a pretty significant energetic timeline because we have all visualized it. We have all thought about how that would be and what that might be like, and what is the fallout of that. So we've gone down that timeline so quickly that it creates an imprint, and anybody who who's thought is vibrating at that frequency hooks into that, and then it becomes a collective consciousness memory. The vibrations and the frequencies like when it comes to consciousness. And I've talked with other people before that have brought this up, and I believe this is true. Like we are all frequencies and vibrations, Like everything around us is off of frequencies and vibration. So there are ways that some vibration, some things can change their frequency or vibration pattern to where they would be like considered an interdimensional type of entity. And I've often wondered, like if the spiritual realm, where people call them spirits, aren't just something from a different plane that we aren't on that same frequency of Yeah, is that something that you think these librarians would be. Then you say they're spirit guides, But are they something from a different frequency level that we're not attuned to? Yes? Absolutely, And when I do channeling, when I do mediumship, You're absolutely right. It's like I'm reaching into a different frequency. When I do mediumship, I go to a slightly higher, slightly less dense frequency, and that's where I can find that if I want to go up to the angelic realm, I'm going up to that. It's like testing that frequency. Is it up here or is it down here? It's raising the antenna up a little higher, moving it to the left, moving it to the right. But I think you're absolutely right. We are all frequency and vibration. And what do we choose to tune into, and what do we train ourselves to become more sensitive too, and what are the things that we just pushed aside as? Huh, well that was. A weird feeling, but I'm not going to get curious and tune into that. Has there been any times where you've channeled something and it ended up not being I get confused on malevolent or belovedlent, whatever it is, like something that's not necessarily a good thing, like more of a darker entity. I have a hard time answering that because I feel like sometimes it's hard to. Say what is dark, what is light? What is good? What's that? I use my body as a barometer of truth. When I connect, I am very conscious and aware and clear that I'm only entering love and light. I'm only letting in truth. I'm not going to choose to open myself up to something that is trickster energy or I'm malevolent or dark energy. I'm just not available for that frequency because it's not going to serve me and it's not going to serve other people. So with that as the backdrop, sometimes I have tuned into stuff that feels a little disturbing or a little bit dark, but it doesn't give me that It doesn't give me the creeps, it doesn't give me that whole feeling. Like recently, I was. Tuning into the librarians and I was asking them about, you know, what's going on in the world, because things feel so we feel so divided, it feels so stressful, it feels like there's so much going on. And they were saying, you know, we're going to have technology go offline for a while and it's going to be really challenging. But it's in service of we have created all of this technology, the Internet, cell phones, like, we have created all of this technology. When the technology goes we're going to be dropped into this darkness. But it's in service of realizing we are the technology. We have telepathy, we can change things that are frequency and vibration level. We don't need all of these devices to do it for us. We can do it for ourselves. So yes, they're showing me some like dark scary times, but it's not because all of. This evil bad, dark stuff is happening. Ah, scream and run. It's in service of how are we breaking free of this paradigm that we're in. It's how do we see you know that it's the matrix and we've all taken the red pill and now we get to create our reality and we are free from this illusion. It's in service of a high you're good and yes it's uncomfortable, but it's not like dark or bad or scary. I know some people, more or less the religious types, they think when you're doing this, And I've actually been on a I had an off air conversation with someone that's really big in the podcasting world, and they're very religious and anything like even yoga, yoga, meditation, channeling, that's all acts of devil stuff. And I don't necessarily see it that way, no, but I know a lot of religious types that do see stuff like that, Like they had a whole list of things you don't actually do. You're like, well, you're talking about people freeing their mind and opening their mind, talking about all these other topics, but you don't want them to do yoga, you don't want them to do meditation, you don't want them to do this, but you're supposed to believe everything that you're telling them, because you're saying that we're being like, I'm just gonna paraphrase, but we're being controlled by whatever these demonic entities, but yet anything that we can open our mind too, you're already telling us we can't open our mind, even though you're telling people Like to me, that's where I kind of got lost, and I was like, how can you tell people one thing but then turn around and say something that's contradictory to what you're saying right right? It makes no sense. It makes no sense to me. It's it's to me, it's it's it's fear. It's fear that we will lose control of people and that people will do these bad, scary things. And here's where I I that I find that interesting. When we're truly, truly free, I don't think a lot of people are doing these bad, awful things. I think most people do want to lean into things that make them feel good and liberated. And happy and free and powerful. And I feel like a lot of that religious control is telling us that we're dark to keep us small, because if they tell us know all the power is within you, you can create anything. You can connect with things from other planets, dimensions, you can create an entire three D universe around you. You can create we can all. Be free to do that. That's a lot of responsibility. And when you know that it's all within you, then suddenly you don't need other people to show you the way. So you don't need to pay them money, you don't need to listen to their words, you don't need It's like such a lazy way of doing it. Instead of setting us all free to create our own reality, they say we're going to create it, and by God, you're going to stay here with us. Yeah, that's a That's the one thing about certain aspects to some sort of religions that kind of to me. And I don't write, dog go to anything about religion just because I want everyone to be able to believe what they want, whatever works for them. But I think a lot of times people get hung up on certain aspects to it. Because I was raised one in a church Christianity, stuff like this is demonic, and but some of the things like there was no such thing as aliens because obviously, if you believe in the Bible, it didn't mention stuff like that, but it mentions spirits, and it mentions other things, and it's just how people interpret it. So there's a lot of interpretation when it comes to this stuff. And I've talked to someone before that claims that they used to be a demon, And I don't know if I don't know how someone would know if they used to be a demon, and how they're not a demon now, you know, to me, that's that's questionable. But regardless, they were able to do it's almost like channeling, like what you're talking about. But they were able to bring in these other entities so that they were no longer good or bad. They're just what they are. So there's no diffen like what we would consider something evil. It is not evil per se, because it is just how it is. And our interpretation of things of good and evil is just a human way of seeing it. These things are just always what they are. Yeah, yeah, And you know, grounding that like in in human action, grounding that I said earlier. I went through this horrible infidelity experience. My husband cheated for fifteen years with five women, Like there's nothing good about that. During that time, he was in intense pain. He has a background of trauma. He's separated from his soul, he separated from love, he separated from all the goodness. He intentionally pushed that away of fear, out of pain, out of all of these different things. So was he acting in a demonic way? Well, hey, we could. Maybe interpret it like that. Was he acting in a dark way? Sure, maybe we can interpret that. I think there's so much around like that, the intention and what you're leaning into. He was leaning into darkness, he was leaning away from love, he was leaning into power, control, all of these different things. He was not leaning into the goodness of who he is. We have been through an intense healing journey. He has since based his trauma, opened up. He is way more spiritually connected and open now. And spoiler alert, we're still together. Half years later, I say, yeah, happened? Are you guys still together? Yeah? Yeah, we we have figured it out. We have both become better people. So it's like, which way are you facing? Because I feel like there's always the direction of facing into love and to trust and to joy, into happiness, into curiosity, or into fear, into judgment, into pain, and that we have all been demonic in a sense, and we have all been angelic in a sense, and in a way, it's all the same. It's just which way are we facing, if that makes any sense. I had a question, and how does someone that has gone through that. I've actually gone through something similar, but how does someone go like you find out that the person you're with did stuff like this and it breaks your trust, It breaks everything that you thought about. How does someone move on from this? In this or like anyone listening is dealing with it? What is your like? How would you tell someone how they would cope with this? How would they move on from something like this like you did? It takes a lot of time. I would tell people they have to feel their feelings, especially they're really uncomfortable ones, but also to remember the higher perspective. This is not just about you. And that person. What is the higher perspective around this? Because when we can let go of that judgment that this was bad, that I am a victim, that he is a perpetrator, none of. That is true. We are creating our reality. This is this holographic universe. Why did you create this? What is the mirror that it's holding up for you to see about yourself? Not that you caused this, like I in no way caused this. This was not my fault. But the mirror that it held up for me was all of the ways I was betraying myself. I was giving overgiving, I was putting myself last. I was betraying myself And it took somebody else betraying me to hold up that mirror and realize, WHOA, here's some things I need to shift in the way I think, in the way I believe, and I need to create a different reality because I am not happy in this reality. So everyone listening has the opportunity to find it. I'm saying this in like the common way, but like everyone's and has the opportunity to look within themselves to change themselves from something the impacted them in a traumatic experience. They have the ability to go through this traumatic experience and come out as a different person per se in the way of how they handle things, how they in the world. Yeah. Yeah, because when you talk about you know, frequency and vibration. What could this have done to me? What could this have done to you? Is this going to make you bitter and hateful? Is this going to make you filled with resons? Is this going to make you into the kind of person who tells the same negative story over and over and over again. Or is this going to teach you how to transmute energy? Is this going to teach you about alchemy? Is this going to teach you about rising and joy and finding that internal happiness? Because you can choose whatever you want. If you want to choose to be a bitter victim, do it. And if you want to choose alchemy and transformation and real deep joy, choose that too. You. I'm reading through your email and you authored a book, and is there anything in there you would like to cover while we continue to talk, because I know it says you deal with a lot of spiritual stuff and you help people through their trauma. Yeah, and when you're dealing with stuff like this, I know a lot of people have different sorts of trauma. And I'll just blatantly ask this, when have you ever dealt with someone that's claimed to have trauma when it involves like an ET encounter or anything that's not okay? Because I've talked to people before and they don't know who to talk to when it comes to stuff like this because they don't want to go to a therapist because they think, well, someone's. Going to get there crazy. Yeah. So there's a lot of people that listen to the show that have seen things or have experienced things, and I don't talk to every single one, and some people have messed with me, but they don't want to come on a show because they don't want to be labeled as crazy. And I understand that. So for people like that, what would you recommend? Yeah, finding that safe person to talk to really does matter. If you feel if you've like you're going to be judged by a therapist, don't because you're not crazy. I mean, that's the thing. You're just tuning into different levels of reality that other people can't see. And I know, I know the listeners get this, but it's like a dog whistle. We can't hear the dog whistle, but it doesn't mean that the whistle isn't there. And I think that's the first most important place, is being validated and dealing with what you can control and what you can't control, Because whether it's a human or some type of entity that you can't see or that other people don't believe in, how do you manage that fear, that loss of control, that violation. And there's so much to say, I feel like we could probably talk in two hours on managing that. But it's equal parts. How to flow that trauma and that shock out of your body, because you know how it feels when something happens and you get like that electrical charge in your body. It's how to allow that to dissipate, how to move that frequency out of the tissues the cells of your own body so you can make peace with that, so you can be present on this planet at this time and still find that safety. How can you anchor in that safety in your physical environment? But then also what can you do internally? How can you shield? How can you cut chords? How can you create boundaries around yourself? And how can you make boundaries that are honored is kind of the wrong word, but boundaries that are honored on all levels of reality, because if you're creating boundaries in the three D world, it's not going to matter in a five D playing field. So it's how to and where to create that structure of those boundaries to keep yourself safe, and how to shift dimensions and how to shift frequencies if you need to, Because we can drop out of a frequency, just like we can choose to tune in and tap into something. We can also choose to pull away from something. And if you're in a dimension, and if you're dealing with being is in that dimension that are not making you feel safe or comfortable, how do you shift yourself out? Because you do have the agency to do that. We are never without agency. We just lose track of the fact. That we're never without agency, and sometimes we just don't know what to do to pull ourselves back to a different frequency, a different reality. The realities that we live in now, as bad as it sounds to some people, like sometimes I don't think we want to be in the reality that we're in, especially the way things go. So for someone that was wanting to improve, they could like reach out to you and you could try and like, I don't want to say coach, but is that kind of like what it would be like you'd help guide them on the correct path that they're looking for. Is that something that yeah, yeah, Here's how I would do it. We would get together, I would connect with my guides, the librarians. We would kind of zoom out and do this outer level what is going on because we get so locked in to looking at the trees that we can't see the forest, so we back out. What is going on? Is there a legit message that you're not getting that these other beings are trying to get to you? Why are you involved in this? What does this mean? What is your soul here to learn? What is this experience really about? And then from there, what do we need to do? Do we need to cut courts? Do we need to do an energetic shift? Do we need to contact and bring in some of your guardian beings? What is it that's going on. And what do you need in order to feel safe? You know, I said, I'm a former attorney. I still operate in a very structured way. What's the problem, what's the cause, what's the solution? And we work through that and oftentimes there's multiple causes, there's multiple problems going on. We just have to tackle it one at a time. We can't just come in and be like and we're going to fix everything, structure it, figure it out, take care of one thing at a time, rebuild. Looking here, it's something I was going to ask. I try and make notes and then I get all jarbled up over here. No, it's just fun to talk, but it is hard to stand track sometimes and. I try not to be adhd where my brain scatters about. But when someone has an experience and for them, we'll use a paranormal realm one for this one like say that, I'll use myself as an example. I've been told where I'm at now that there is three spirits that are around my place. I claim that it's not necessarily the house was haunted. And this was a random lady that will come up to me a year ago, and she said that two of them mean no harm, but one is dark and unless I figure out how to rid it or figure out what it needs. I don't remember her exact terminology. But if I don't do it, but before the boy turns fourteen, then it'll be too late. And that's all she could tell me. I was like, Okay, that's vague, very vague, because my stepson is going to be thirteen in February and my son is four, So like, which boy is it? Which boy? Yeah? So yeah, the spirit? And what I'm curious too, is the spirit a boy who crossed before the age of fourteen and he's never going to make fourteen? What's going on with that? That is very vague. It was very vague, very random. They walked up to me at one of the events that I was at, like doing speaking and had a booth and stuff set up, and she came up and that's all she told me. And I was like, it could have been just someone screwing around, but like, it's very specific and very vague. And then I never seen her again. So I've often wondered. I was like, was I being trolled or was there something about it? But she said she just was compelled the spirits holders that she had to come and tell me this. So I'm like, I don't know what to believe. But for someone like me, how would I handle something like that? Okay, let's do this. So how do you feel with that information? Is that unsettling or how do you feel? What is the energy around that? It's unsettling because we have dealt with some weird things here before, and I don't want to get into it on air because people have heard it before, but basically, we've had some weird stuff that's happened in the house. I've had my daughter being scratched, and I've tried to cleanse the house myself, and we typically don't have any sort of issue and I try not to even mention it because I'm trying not to give power to something that could actually be here. But they're claiming that isn't the house itself, it's the land around us. Okay, So take that unsettled emotion. The opposite of that is what settled calm safe. I. We need you to tune into all of those emotions that are the opposite of that. M hmm feeling. Those that is what. That is what you need to stay anchored into, because if there is an entity there, what they are feeding into is that unsettled that I don't know what to do, that is this or is this not true? I need to figure it out. A high level of uncertainty, a high level of confusion. If you think about the energy around that, it's a slight excuse me, spinning of like I need to figure this out. I need to figure this out. Time is running out. Somebody might be fourteen, somebody is going to be somebody else is going to be fourteen? What is it? And it creates this anxiety, this spin. So reversing whatever the emotions are that come up is where you have power over that entity. If indeed there is an entity there, If you have calm, assurance, if you have all the time in the world to figure it out, you are not going to be feeding that entity because like attracts like, and if there is the energy there that is wanting to attract that, the energy of that land, if it's land where something bad has happened, and if there's that energy of chaos and uncertainty and running out of time. Anytime you vibrate that, you're going to make that entity bigger. So by vibrating the opposite of that, that's where you have the neutralizing effect I hate to say control over, but it's a complete neutralization of that energy by bringing in the exact opposite of what it brings up in you. That is partly why we don't discuss it. We don't mention it, we don't even think about it. We try not to give anything power or feed it because we don't want to think anything about it. Because worrying and everything else like it kind of creates like a negative energy or lower vibration, and this thing probably feeds on that. So knowing that we are talking about it and giving it that power, given it that energy, that it has some sort of control over us and we're feeding it as like, so we're just going to say it doesn't exist, we aren't talking about it, and it's just something that we don't worry about. And that's just kind of how I went with it. Yeah, and then one level deeper than that too, how can you love it? How can you honor it? How can I don't fear it? I don't have to ignore it. I don't have to not talk about it. I welcome you. I welcome you because I can handle you. I welcome you because all is welcome. And love in my environment. I fear you are welcome here because I am stronger. You are welcome here because I am certain. You are welcome here because I have all the time in the resources in the world. My only hesitation with that is if I'm welcoming that, I don't know what else i'd be welcoming. True, No, I get that. So, but that's some of that boundaries around. Like when I was said earlier, I welcome anything in light. I welcome anything in truth. I welcome anything in love. If it's a disruptive message and it comes in light and truth and love, I know I have the resources to deal with it. I might not like it, but I have the resources to deal with it because I am I go back to the I ams a lot. I am a clear channel. I am a force of love. I am a force of truth. I have fallen into fear before, I have fallen into darkness before. But I am truth and love and light, and I will always go back to that, even when I am scared, upset, hurt, even when I've had the scary thing happen to me, I know that. Okay, I just had this real I had a. Ghost in my room growing up, and she scared me to death and I was scared. But I still am all powerful in myself. That's my subtlety. That's kind of my concern with my children though, because they're young, like I have teenagers, and I have a six year old and a four year old, and the six year old when she was two years old, was getting scratches and they were in three. So the first thing I think of knowing what I know is like, well, it's almost like a demonic type thing just because of the number three, like in the Christian thing that's mocking the Holy tren. So I've seen it as a negative and I didn't want that. And then now my other child, my four year old son. Now you'll randomly talk about ghost and I don't know why he did this. He did this when he's like two, and he still occasionally mentioned a ghost and it's just it's little things like that that's still kind of like, okay, but we don't feed into it. Our house isn't old, no one's ever died here, so I've always just wrote it off as well, they're just kids. I do the old, the typical man vibe of there's nothing here. I don't know what's going on, just because even my wife's the same way, Like, if we acknowledge it or if we accept it, then it becomes real. So for us just to act like there's nothing here, I don't necessarily think it's a good idea for it. But at the same time, I'm trying not to let it eat off of our fear or something like. Just yeah, because here's the rut. You're trying not to make it real. But this is something you do believe in and you do know is true. So that's a denial of truth for you. And that's where I struggle with, because yeah, I would prefer for what I wish that the person would have never even brought this up, because it puts that seed in your like in the back of my mind of what was that about? Was it just someone randomly trying to just put some negative thought into this something? But how did they even know that I was dealing with something less they've heard me mention it before on a different episode, you know what I mean. So it's kind of like what to believe at this point? Mm hmm. In in a way, it doesn't matter what you believe. What are you emanating in your presence, in your life, in your household, because if you were emanating, if you were teaching your kids to emanate love light, piece that knowledge that they are powerful enough. They are in this dimension right now. I don't have to have contact with any other dimension because I am in this dimension. So even at four and six, how do you ground? Let's walk around barefoot, Let's ground into our body. You are in this body, you know, young ages. Put your hands on your legs, stump your feet. I am here, go outside, sit by a tree. How do you ground into this dimension? I think that there is something in the sense of and I don't know. I don't know what it would be like. I don't think there's something negative. But I think there's something interested in the kids. And the late did mention that there was a young one mm hmm. And she said something with water well underneath my daughter's room, we is where our whale, like the well for the water actually comes into and her room is the only one that'll randomly get condensation on the ceiling. And I've never figured out why. And I've had people in the attic. The attic's not wet. It's just very strange why it's just her room specifically. And there's been times where I've tried to I've been in the house by myself and I've tried to make the dog go into her room, and the dog will not go in there. So it's like you get that, you get like an overprotective mindset sometimes if you think there's something messing with your children. Mm hmm. And here's here's what I'm picking up around that you may be older in years. She is very wise, and I feel like she is playing with some of the spirits in there. I feel like she is connected to the water. I feel like she is doing some of this and instead of protecting her, what are the ways that you can encourage her. To protect herself. She doesn't even mention anything about it anymore. She's probably a peace with it because I feel like she is commanding water. I feel like she is the one that is moving that around. It's a possibility because we've never had any issues to be moved in here. We've only been here a few years. So before that, we lived in a house was over one hundred and something years old, So I totally expected there a be weird stuff going on there and there was nothing. Yeah, I pick up more elemental energy around her, you know, like the fairy the Gnome. I pick up more of that kind of playful energy around her. Which is on par because I've kind of pick that up and I don't feel the energy, but I have my own just from doing the podcast. And there's little things that I've left out that when you said that now kind of goes along with it. I've seen about a twelve in shadow run down the hallway into her room, yeah, and I've chased it in there. And we've had silverware that come up missing. And now I have a whole bunch of spoons that I have no idea where they've came from. They're just random little things that all lead back to face stuff. And I've even told my wife that before. I think it's fairy stuff like tricksters. Yeah, and that's speak to it. You know. When when I was little, we had a little girl die from leukemia in the house that we bought, and she passed away from leukemia. We moved in. I kept seeing this little girl in a white nightgown running around, but I didn't ever want to say anything because I didn't. Want to be weird. And then one day my mom called up the stairs, Laura, what are you doing out of bed? And I wasn't out of bed, and I was like why, and she's like, because I saw you run across the hall. And I just burst into tears because then I knew it was true. I knew what I was seeing was true. And what my mom and I ended up doing, she led it. She was very wise this way. She talked to the little girl and she's like, you have died and your family has moved, and you were welcome to stay here with us. And like my mom said, I hear, there's supposed to be a light that you can go into. I can help you find your family. You can go into that light, or you can stay here with us. But I need you to know you were not embodied anymore, you were not a human. You have ust over and after that conversation, we never saw that little girl again. And I think similar with some of the elementals, with some of the energies that are in your house. How can you have conversations, you know, teach your daughter to have some conversations. Welcome spirit of water, Welcome fairies. Are you here to play? We welcome you to play, We welcome you to have fun. You know, if you have any bad intentions, Nope, you have to go home. You have to leave, just like you would say with another child who comes in. No, you're not welcome here. That's not the kind of attitude that we have here. And that's that kind of boundaries that I'm talking about. Sometimes we can be really clear, No, nobody with that attitude is coming into my house. I don't tolerate that. I don't have people smoke in my house. People cannot smoke in my house. End of story. It's not even a question. I'm not having somebody smoke in my house. That's a very clear boundary and I know it, and if need be, I communicate it. We all have boundaries like that, but when it comes to different realms, we still have boundaries. This is my home. You can come play. If you're keeping my kids up at night, you need to leave. If you're interrupting their school work, if you're disturbing their mental health and their will being. You need to leave. I when I first started channeling, I kept having all of these entities come to me when I was in the shower because my defenses are down. Water attracts it. And even at one point. My brother in law has passed away and he came in the shower and I was like, oh my god, everybody out of here, Like, no, you cannot see me and talk to me while I'm in the shower. And it was funny because my brother in law is like, you realize I don't care, and I'm like. That's not the point. I care. My shower is my time for me to process all of you cannot come see me in the shower. No, you can wait for me afterwards and we can all talk then. And I had to be very. Clear about that and then sure enough, like I will still open the bathroom door sometimes and be like, oh, look there's a suicide here. Okay, what do we need to talk to you about? You know, we're oh great, somebody is here. What do we need to process? But we're not doing it in the shower because that's my time. Their version of time would be different from our version of time though too. Absolutely, but you're playing in my realm. This is my realm. This is your realm, this is your daughter and son's realm. They are here. Now. You can get visitors from outer space, from other dimensions, but if they're coming to my realm, they get a play by my rules. If I go to your realm, I'll play by your rules. But when you're in my realm, we're doing it my way. We're almost at an hour. So before we go any further, I would like for you to talk a little bit about your book. Absolutely, I actually have two books. I think the book that's most relevant is Flaunt, drop your cover and reveal your smart, sexy and spiritual self. And what I really love about this book is, you know, we talk about like multidimensionality, but we're also very diverse as people. And I felt like as a lawyer, I was typecast. I have to be very smart, I have to be very plain. Well, you know what, in reality, I actually also dance burlesque, I can be really darn sexy, and guess what, I also channel I can be really spiritual. And the book takes you through a lot of exercises and stories on how to tap into all facets of who you are, and then I think, most importantly, how to integrate and live all facets of who you are so you don't feel crazy, so you. Can and just actually talk to people. You know what, Yeah, I'm into this whole UFO thing, and here's the experience that I've had and let go of that judgment piece and really live fully. What is the other book that you have? My other book is called It's Not Burnout, Its Betrayal. Five Tools to fuel up and Thrive. What I learned from my whole betrayal experience is we experience so much. Betrayal, like COVID could be a betrayal. Having somebody tell you they don't believe that you were just abducted by aliens can feel like a betrayal. Like living on this planet where people don't see and feel the same things, that can feel like a betrayal, And a betrayal is just a set of broken expectations that rupture your identity and when you identify as something and that all of a sudden those expectations are broken and your view of yourself is ruptured. It's really difficult. And it can cause you to collapse in and to not trust yourself. And this book is really on how to identify betrayal, what is betrayal, how to connect back into your core, and how to live out loud in a way that is authentic to you. And it's a little more geared towards work. How can you set up boundaries around work, around experiences and still remain true to yourself. Where can the listeners find your books out? Amazon? I think is the easiest. My Flaunt book is traditionally published, so you can get that at Barnes and Noble, New World Library, anywhere books are sold. Okay, and you have a website If anyone wanted, how would they go about that? I guess I should add, Yeah, I think. The best way Yeah, if you go to Coffee with the Librarians Coffee with the Librarians dot com, I will send you a free monthly reading from the librarians. At the beginning of every month, I send out like an energy update, and it connects you to the energetics on the planet, so you can kind of understand what's going on on there. You can also set up appointments with me. If you want to set up an appointment, that would be great. We can talk about your experience, help you move through the trauma, help you move through you know, the stress, the discomfort, set up those healthy boundaries, learn how to invite people into this realm, how to set up boundaries in this realm, and how to stay firmly grounded into. Who you are. My infidelityspecific website is Laura Cheedle dot com and you can always go there too, but reach out to me on social connect Let's talk about it, because I know how it feels, and I know how it feels to be like I need help, but I don't know who to talk to about this, and I don't want people rolling their eyes or just giving me platitudes. I need real advice. I think that is something that everyone that has went through something needs to have in their life, is someone they can talk to and someone that can actually understand because going through a lot of traumatic events and just things that we've all been through. One way or the other and not having anyone to actually talk to about it or they can understand because you can go and talk to a coworker about it, or you can go and talk to a friend about it. At the same time, you have to worry about what that person's going to think afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. And also trauma trauma is a really different animal, and it impacts our psyches and our brains differently. And if you have really had a traumatic experience, having people say, oh, that's too bad, you know, you'll get over it, it just doesn't help. It really doesn't help. You need somebody who is trauma informed trauma aware to help you work through it, because trauma leaves imprints in the body and the mind that can impact the rest of your life. And as much as someone says that they understand what you're going through, oh, I'm just as bad with it when it comes to other people, Like I don't try and tell someone I understand what they're going through because I don't because I didn't go through it. Everyone deals with something differently, so it's always good to find someone that can understand what some people are actually going through, because not everyone is able to do that. Even if they have the greatest intentions, it doesn't always work out that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you know things that you mentioned too. For some people that's terrifying. For other people it's like, oh, that's not a big deal at all. So yeah, you have to be very aware. Creating safety is imperative first and foremost. You need to find that safe space. And yeah, I would very much love to be that safe space. Well, I will make sure if you send me your links to include them in the show notes for anyone listening that way, if anyone out there is interested, they can reach out to you. Yeah, that'd be lovely, And. I can leave links for your book too. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Well, I've had a pleasure talking with you tonight. I don't usually try and rush things off, but we kind of talked a little beforehand. I am beat tired. I've got to be up in a few hours and go right back to work. Wow. Yeah, you've got a lot going on. But I think this was good. I think we covered a lot of good stuff. And thank you. Thank you for hosting this. Not a problem, definitely appreciate it, And if you'd ever like to come back, just reach out and we can schedule another. One that sounds great. Thank you so much. Thank you, have a good night you too. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tels podcast at gmail dot com, or you can also go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to the contact section. Just make sure to reach out and get a hold of me and we will get something to schedule for a future episode. You can also find tenfoil Tales on Facebook and Instagram. Just look for tenfoil Tales podcast and reach out to me that way too. Remember to share the show around. Word of mouth is the best way to help the show grow, and just remember truth comes at a cost. Are you willing to pay the price.