In this thought-provoking episode, Brandon sits down with Michael Monk, a teacher of spirituality, metaphysics, and energy mastery, to discuss the life-changing experience that began with what he describes as hearing the voice of God. That moment set him on a decades-long journey exploring consciousness, out-of-body experiences, clairvoyance, meditation, and humanity's connection to a greater spiritual reality.
Michael shares his perspective on the relationship between religion and spirituality, explaining why he believes the two are not opposites but complementary paths toward understanding our true nature. He also discusses the concept of collective consciousness, energy fields, the Holy Spirit, astral travel, and why he believes every person has the ability to awaken dormant spiritual senses through practice.
Whether you approach these topics from a religious perspective, a metaphysical one, or with healthy skepticism, this conversation explores some of the biggest questions surrounding consciousness, reality, and what it truly means to be human.
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[00:00:03] And I just turned around and I pulled ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my headlights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were glowing red.
[00:00:30] I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. When he turns to tell them that he saw a UFO, they're basically like, what are you talking about? That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it. And that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.
[00:00:58] As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it felt like death. Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales. I'm your host, Brandon. Tonight we're joined by my guest, Michael. Michael, thanks for coming on here and talking with me tonight. Thank you, Brandon. Blessed and honored to be here. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself?
[00:01:20] Sure. Well, my name is Michael Monk. I'm a teacher of spirituality, metaphysics and energy mastery with a focused devotion to God, creator, source, whatever you want to call it. I've been at this since 2011 was when I entered the stage as an online teacher. But my awakening started in the year of 1999. My experiences started out more religious and became more spiritual as time progressed.
[00:01:52] Now, when you got involved with this, how did you like you said the teaching there? Was this something that interest you prior or is it just something that all kind of just come about around the same time? It just came about, yeah. I wasn't seeking. I was raised a Christian Mormon to be precise. I was the first one to leave the church.
[00:02:15] But in 1999, towards the end of the year, I had a spontaneous communication from the voice of God that just shattered my paradigm and opened me up to everything. Hmm. I'll ask you a little bit more about that here in a second, but when you heard this or whatever, it put you on this pathway.
[00:02:41] Did anyone else like obviously with the Mormon religion or something? I'm not a big religion person when it comes to knowing all the aspects to it, but were you kind of alienated by leaving? Somewhat. I come from a family of five and the other kids, they kept going to church and I didn't really associate.
[00:03:05] I didn't like have many Mormon friends. I was a California kid. I had my own circle of friends, so I didn't really feel much alienation. Okay. I know when some people leave certain religions or groups or something, sometimes they get a, I don't want to say blackball, but basically their family or some, they might be shunned for not following the religion. I don't know how Mormonism is when it comes to stuff like that, so I wasn't sure.
[00:03:33] Yeah, my family was cool about it and most of my friends weren't from the church, so I didn't really notice any of that. Okay. Well, that's good. So you heard the voice of God and I know a lot of people are probably going to ask why I didn't ask this. I'll just ask like when you, how do you know you're hearing the voice of God? Well, I'll just tell the full story. So I'm, it's the winter of 1999. I'm watching a comedy movie and I'm just laughing, mindlessly having a good time when I feel this powerful presence.
[00:04:02] I would call that energy these days, but I didn't know anything about that back then. It enters through the top of my head, what I would now call the crown shocker, but had no idea back then. And it rested in the center of my mind, what I would now call the third eye. And, and I hear this loud booming voice, pure power accompanied by power in, in my eardrums.
[00:04:24] And it told me to stop laughing, stand up and turn the TV off. So I did. And I queried it as to who I was talking to. My grandfather had recently died. So I asked grandfather, is that you? And the voice boomed in my eardrums.
[00:04:41] I could like sense it telepathically in my brain, but I could audibly hear it in my eardrums as well. The voice answered yes. And my body got hit with this energy, electricity from head to toe, hair standing on the end, chills in the spine, champagne bubbles of bliss, a feeling that I've come to call the Holy Spirit.
[00:05:01] Then after that, there were, there was like a query or like, like I was missing something, like something else was there. So I asked if this was my cousin and the same voice answered yes. And accompanied by the same feeling, the electricity, hair standing on the ends, the champagne bubbles of bliss. And at that point I said, well, I'm confused. You're my grandfather and you're my cousin.
[00:05:24] And then I had a spontaneous inner eye opening, what I would call the third eye these days. But my outer vision was replaced with my inner vision. And I saw thousands, millions, billions, impossible to tell the exact number of humanoid light beings, like beings of light that were all connected by thin little silvery threads of energy.
[00:05:46] And they were all speaking to me as one unified voice. And I guess you'd say my heart knew what I was talking to. So I acknowledged it as God. And it seemed pleased with that and said, you have finally met me. I give you a space and time to ask questions.
[00:06:04] And the nature of which I don't even remember because it's really irrelevant. The only thing I had to go on was the Bible at the time, but the communications were leading me to something that I, that I wasn't ready for. And so I really couldn't understand what, what it was trying to get through to me on. And that, that was the experience.
[00:06:27] The voice, and you said that all these, you couldn't obviously count on me, but basically the way I'm visualizing this is every voice of a person was actually all within this central energy of a being, which is God. Yes. And yeah. Like a massively united collective consciousness.
[00:06:46] Mm-hmm. And are we all a part of that consciousness too? So when we have our own, we're all a part of, like God is basically a part of all of us because we're all one part of the collective conscience. That's how I've come to understand it. The, the, we as humanity haven't made our collective consciousness at the conscious level. It's more like a collective unconscious.
[00:07:11] So I can't testify if, if every human alive today was a part of, of that voice, but on, on the other side of the veil, we seem to have this unity in a collective consciousness. And the entity that I've come to call God, I've done explorations all the way out and all the way in. And I found the same being in both places. And it does literally know itself as being every living being simultaneously.
[00:07:40] For people that are religious, because there are a lot of Christian people to listen to this show. And I have some that aren't obviously religious either, but for like, obviously you came from a Christian background. How would someone interpret that as the God that is it? The same God that the Christians would believe in, or would they see this differently? Well, I'm very familiar with the, the essence of Christ, the spirit of Christ.
[00:08:09] And, and I'm also remember when I said, I found the same being in both places, deep within and in, in the outer. So I believe in the Trinity, but I don't think humans have a, a full comprehension of that yet. They've done the best they could with what they've had to work with.
[00:08:26] So the Christ I've found to be on the inside, deep inside of every single one of us surrounding the universe is what I call the parental consciousness, which created both us, the universe and the spirit that I call Christ. The parental consciousness will manifest to different people, different ways. It can manifest itself as, as whatever it wants.
[00:08:50] And I think that for the bulk period of time that humanity would accept nothing less than, than a masculine God. And so for a couple thousand years, three, four, 5,000 years it's manifested primarily that way. But the same consciousness has also come to me as the divine mother looking very much like, like, like Mary, you know, with the veil and everything, the way the Catholic church typically portrays her.
[00:09:18] So it's manifested to me both ways. Would someone be able to know if, obviously this is a hypothetical question, but I know a lot of people say that you get, not you in general, but like we get these communications from things that try to deceive us. How did we know that something wasn't trying to deceive and let us think that there's something that they're actually not? Yeah, that's a great question.
[00:09:46] Cause I have encountered a lot of those entities, deceiver entities. And, and it took me a long time to figure out the good news on that is that the feeling that I've come to call the Holy spirit. And a lot of people, I think most people have felt it at one point or another in their life. I have not met another being that can replicate that feeling.
[00:10:08] Myself as an energy master, I can replicate any emotion or any feeling except the Holy spirit that, that head to toe electricity, the champagne bubbles of bliss, the hair standing on their end. And can only come from one source and that's the Holy spirit of God. Okay. Yeah. I've talked to someone before and they have had lots of experiences.
[00:10:33] They believe with these things that are a negative energy and they try and impersonate these other things, but you're able to actually determine what, what they are by calling them out. Like they're the deceivers of trying to feed off of the negative energy they claim. So I'm not a hundred percent certain how all that works, but that's just what I've been told from. Yes. I've had a lot of experience with that.
[00:10:57] I've had over a thousand out of body experiences and I've had beings come to me replicating all sorts of other, other beings. And so, yeah, there's a lot of that going around. I guess for my own curiosity, when you talk about these other beings, are they all within our realm of earth? Or are they also just in the, within the whole universal existence?
[00:11:21] Because I know like if we are one God and it's one whole universe to think that we are just one planet with the only things of life in there to me seems a little naive, but. Yes. Are there anything out there that you've encountered that were not necessarily from earth? Oh yeah, quite, quite a bit. On my out of body experience, number 50, I learned to travel by the Holy Spirit.
[00:11:49] So at first my travels were sort of limited in terms of where I could go or what I could experience. By about the 50th one, I realized, well, Michael, you know, God is inside you. Why not? Why not let God travel you around? So I levitate up in the air a little bit and I just know that God is in my heart. And I say, take me where I need to go.
[00:12:11] And this invisible presence, the Holy Spirit grabs me from the inside and the outside and whisks me at light speed through the universe and has set me down on so many different worlds. And so, yeah, I've met all different species of consciousness out there. And yes, we are not the only species that God has created.
[00:12:33] I know a lot of some like religion beliefs are it's hard for them to accept that notion because they are all just, we're still, and I don't want to say infantile, but we're still in that sort of mindset that we're all just based on earth. And yes, when you consider the heavens above, like that's not just saying like the clouds here on earth.
[00:12:56] Obviously, we don't know necessarily, like we're reading what was written by humans for the Bible and our other thing. Like mankind wrote the religions based off of what they were understanding of at the time. So for us to not understand what it was back then, we were just putting in the words that made sense for the times of where they were. Yes.
[00:13:20] Every time God, any sort of communication, it has to translate through our mental channels. So there's always a translation that happens. It's almost impossible for that voice to come through in utter purity. I've noticed that there's always a translation. And the more empathic you become, the more still you become, the more pure those translations can be. But there will always be a translation.
[00:13:47] So I believe with all my heart that God has done the best it could with every time period that it's worked with. But that we're in a modern time now where with science and the advancement of our mentality, that God is able to give us a more pure representation of itself. Mm-hmm. Now, when you are able to travel and like through the consciousness or anything, like how you do that,
[00:14:17] is this something that you help people understand how they can do that too? Can everyone do that? Or is that just something that certain people can do? Oh, yes. Everyone can do everything that I can do. I believe that's why God woke me up and set me on this path because I'm really good at communicating it. In particular, I've taught a lot of children. Like a second grader can pick all this stuff up in like three to six months.
[00:14:46] They actually have an easier time than adults because adults have hardened their mind to this. The biggest part is that we discount minute data, minute sensory data that we get. We're so hardwired to the five sensory channels of the nerves that as we get spiritual data, vibrational data, our brain wants to ignore it.
[00:15:08] And not just our brain, but our mental, you know, our spiritual mental has a hard time believing it as well. But yes, anybody can learn to do this. I've taught thousands of people to do everything that I do from clairvoyance to out-of-body travel to a projection of consciousness, all sorts of miraculous things. It's our nature. We are spirit by nature.
[00:15:34] We've just come to be confused through our incarnation in the human body. We exposed our spirit to the electrical system. And we come from a very soft, a very light vibrational range of energy. So when we overlap our spirit with the infant baby to be born into our next life, the electricity of the nerves just jolts the spirit and hardwires it to this five sensory information,
[00:16:03] where if anything's above or below that range, the brain just ignores it and says, that's not even data. But we're more, the brain is a tool that our mind uses to interface with the physical reality. But by pointing out to people's little things that they can do to start to get extra sensory information, people realize that everybody is getting extra sensory information of at least a minute amount.
[00:16:30] We just discount the data or discard it. Some would say that we're still sleeping. I've heard a lot of people, and you've kind of referenced it, like you open up the third eye. I think the third eye is kind of not so much a physical eyeball, but it's your brain opening up to the actuality of the world we live in. Yes. Well, sight is just a translation.
[00:16:57] You know, all the five senses are a translation of vibration. God has shown me what's behind the scenes. We seem to be in a physical reality, but that's our nervous system translating the source field, the universal energy, or what I call the omnipresence of God, the Holy Spirit that's everywhere. So with clairvoyance, I can bypass my physical senses and everything goes waveform,
[00:17:23] and I don't even perceive a physical reality when I go all the way into that. And then I pull the dial back a little bit, so to speak, and physicality comes back into focus. So physicality is a sensory interpretation force fed to us by the nervous system, translated by the brain, and then fed to the consciousness of our spirit.
[00:17:45] Are you able to do this at any point in time, or is there a certain— is there like something you have to be like set up in a certain type of mindset in order to do this? Well, at first, there's two ways that you can remember your spirit, which is all being an energy master really is,
[00:18:12] because as spirit, everybody who's been onto their body knows that you're in a body of light, you're in a body of energy. You can pass through matter, you can vibrate, you can fly, levitate, shapeshift, walk through walls. You can do all sorts of amazing things. Sorry, I lost track of that, the original question. Could you refresh me?
[00:18:40] Basically, is there a certain way that you have to be— Oh, yes. —like the mindset you have to be in in order to do this? Yes, yes. Well, to remember, to access your spiritual senses, you can do it one of two ways. One is meditation. In meditation, you lower the brain waves, and you ignore the sensory information of the body, and you lower the brain waves, and if you can get your brain waves down into deep alpha or even into theta
[00:19:08] and not lose consciousness, then your spiritual senses come online. You begin to see energy. You begin to feel your spirit. So at first, it requires a special mental state to access this, but very quickly in the teachings, we move from meditation and into what I call focus, where instead of reducing the brain waves, you turn the brain waves up. You establish a laser-sharp focus. You come out of your mind. You don't think.
[00:19:37] You devote all of your mind to observing what the electrical sensory data is telling you, and if you can encompass everything that the nerves are currently telling your spirit, then there becomes room for you to experience more, and there's this pop that happens where all of a sudden you're inside of your body and outside of it at the same time. Once that magic moment happens, you're permanently connected to spirit,
[00:20:04] and you begin to have a spiritual experience on top of your physical experience all day, every day that you can turn the volume up or down on at will. Mm-hmm. Is there a certain... Obviously, everyone can do this, you said, but... Yes. Does someone have to have a certain type of belief, like a... I don't want to say like a meditative state,
[00:20:32] but do they have to be in a certain ability, whether they're consciousness, to understand how to actually do this? Because when I've spoken to people before, they claim their body has to be completely relaxed. It's almost like going into like a dream state for them to travel from their out-of-body experience, like to leave their body. They say your mind has to be in almost like a meditative state. Yes, it's like that at first. When you have an out-of-body experience from the meditative state,
[00:20:59] lowering the brainwaves, then you definitely need your body to be relaxed, because if it's not, that's more sensory data that's just going to speed up your brainwaves and keep you more attached to a physical focus. But once you achieve it through focus, through turning up the brainwaves, then you can obtain the out-of-body state and the in-the-body state at the same time, to where you're both at the same time. Mm-hmm.
[00:21:28] I've always wondered if, personally for me, if I was to ever do this, I would be one that would be, I'm just kind of a, I don't want to say a paranoid person in general, but I've always been kind of leery of stuff like this. Even like, not so much the same concept, but like even when you go through hypnosis, I've always been somewhat leery of things. And I don't know, like when someone has told me before they've been able to like leave their body or anything,
[00:21:56] I was like, what happens if you can't wake up from, like if you can't come back to your actual physical body? Is that anything that you've ever been concerned about or anything like that, like when you've done this? Yeah. So once again, I've had over a thousand of these experiences and I'd say 99.99% of out-of-body travels.
[00:22:23] It's only the highest level of out-of-body experience where you detach from the body fully. You got to remember that to have an out-of-body experience, it's actually a multidimensional experience because a part of you has to stay behind in the brain to actually record the experience. Otherwise, you're not going to have any memory of this experience at all. Every single night when we go to sleep, the body's nervous system shuts down.
[00:22:51] It goes into waking or sleep paralysis as we go to sleep. It's a natural process. So everybody leaves their body every single night and returns to the spirit world. I've met everybody in my life is on the other side of the veil. They just don't remember it because you pass through this. The human translates it as a veil, but it's really the vibrational and structural variance
[00:23:17] between the self as it knows itself within the neuron structure of the brain and the self as it knows itself within the electromagnetic structure of the spirit. These two patterns are so vastly different from each other that as we shift from one to the other, we black out or we fall asleep. But everybody does this every single night. They just may or may not remember the experience.
[00:23:42] So when you're out of the body, it's not about how do you get back to your body? It's more like how do you stay out? Because if you get shocked, if you get surprised or excited, you'll just snap right back to your body. So it actually requires a lot of skill to learn to stay out of your body longer because the attraction will always lead you back to the body.
[00:24:06] There was one out of body experience where I separated so far from the body that I did have to find my own way back. But that came after like hundreds of these, and I was trying really hard to make that happen to achieve the higher level of that. But it's quite safe and quite natural. You know, if anything's frightening, if the consciousness gets any bit of shock, either through fear or through excitement, you just snap right back to your body.
[00:24:36] Okay. Yeah, that's always been my hang-up is I'd be somewhat concerned about it. And I don't know if anyone else would be the way I am, but like that's just how I've always been. Oh, everyone is. Yeah, I teach a process for doing this. To lay down in meditation and to just project out of your body is almost impossible because as it begins to happen, one of two things is going to happen. You're either going to get afraid or you're going to get excited,
[00:25:06] which is going to trigger the adrenals, accelerate the heartbeat, which is going to accelerate the brain waves. So as soon as you get close to leaving your body, you're going to cancel the whole experience by changing your rhythm through activating the adrenal glands through fear or excitement. So instead, I teach a different method where you teach yourself to wake up within the dream, to have a lucid dream, which is actually an out-of-body experience. The place where all of our dreams take place is a level of the spirit world.
[00:25:36] So when you wake up inside of a lucid dream, you are out of the body. And it's very relaxing to do it that way because you're already there. You just obtain a lucidity, which means pretty much that you've made a connection between your spirit and the brain. So you're now recording the data with consciousness. Your conscious awareness is a part of that. And just like with an out-of-body experience, there's always a point where the lucid dream fades,
[00:26:05] excitement, awe, or whatever. You'll snap back to your body. And from there, as long as you don't open your eyes or twitch a single muscle, push energy back out your third eye, your forehead, you'll pop right back out of your body. And it's much easier to do that because you're already in that deep sort of trance-like state. So it's so much easier to have an out-of-body experience that way for the same reason
[00:26:33] as it's easier to socialize when you've had a few drinks because your consciousness is a little bit numb from the lower brainwaves. When you start to teach people, as you said, you deal with children or whatever. Is this something that I like? Where do they find you at to do this? Do you do it remotely or do you have a place that they bring the children to you? How does this work?
[00:27:01] Well, sometimes children learn from my online school, but it's usually when I meet the parents. Sometimes I have physical meetings with people. Sometimes I hold retreats and they like it when quite often for me to teach their kids these things. And I just noticed the kids have such an easier time with it. But typically my teaching is done online through my website with a community where they can ask questions, make posts and whatnot.
[00:27:28] And it's a prerecorded set of structured video lessons. Okay. Yeah, that's kind of what I was wondering about is when you do this instruction for people, I figured it was like a website-based program to where they could come on there and watch it at their own time. Yes, exactly. How many people over the years have you instructed now? Do you even have a number?
[00:27:55] Well, in 2019, it was like 3,100. We're probably at about 4,000 now. Okay. 4,000. 4,000 or 5,000. Okay. This is something that, again, it's kind of new for me. It's not something that I'm 100% familiar with. I've talked to a few people here and there. But the whole idea of consciousness and clairvoyance, I haven't really talked to anyone about clairvoyance. So if you can actually help explain some of that to the listener, that'd be great. Sure.
[00:28:24] Clairvoyance is learning to see above and below the preset range of the visual senses, which we call that the rainbow spectrum. So these senses enter in through our different mechanisms, and they pass through the thalamus, which is a cortex in the brain that surrounds the pineal gland. And the thalamus decodes the vibrational range and sends it to the appropriate place.
[00:28:50] So if a vibration comes into the rainbow spectrum, it'll pass through the thalamus. The thalamus says that's something we can see. So it'll send that vibration back to the sense of sight and translate it as sight. Audio comes in at 20,000 to 20,000 hertz. Anything above or below that just gets filtered out as not data. So that's clairaudience. And I know we're talking about clairvoyance, which has to do with vision.
[00:29:16] But all the clairs, clairsentience, they're all based on the same thing, which is training your consciousness to get sensory information that's above and below the preset range of the physical senses. And that's achieved through focus and meditation. Clairvoyance is easiest obtained through a lowering of the brain waves, entering into like a slightly vegetative state while you're still awake and unfocusing the eyes.
[00:29:48] And typically when we unfocus the vision, we get some type of clairvoyance data, but we just, we don't know that it's data. So, so we don't examine it. Like if you unfocus your eyes a little bit right now and look in the air, the air is not empty. There's a little bit of blurry movement, a little bit of shifting, maybe a little bit of particles, little blips of light here and there. You know, it's not just clear blank air.
[00:30:12] Well, if you can accept that, that that's, that's actually data coming through and then relax, even further unfocus your eyes a little bit more, you'll start to notice a pattern to the fluctuations. And if you can have enough grace and enough nonchalance in that, you'll start to see vibrational waves of energy in the air. You'll start to see a glow around living things like a person or, or a plant. And that glow can have different colors. That's what, that's what's called seeing an aura.
[00:30:41] And if, if you can examine the, this, these waveform patterns that are happening in the air and not engage your, your bifocal mechanism, you see that that's what cancels most of the clairvoyance is when you bring the left and the right hemisphere of the visual consciousness to a singular point. If you can just unfocus, you start to get this sensory data. But then as soon as it gets profound enough, like, like you see a spirit or you see an energy in the air,
[00:31:12] the tendency is to try to focus in on it with your bifocal mechanism. As soon as you do that, the waveform data disappears entirely. So you have to get really good at just reducing the brainwaves and accepting that what you see when you unfocus your eyes isn't just a sensory impairment. It's the beginning of, of actually clairvoyant sensory data.
[00:31:37] Do you think that every one of us is all somehow connected on a, I don't want to call it like a, the same wave linked, but all of us are on the same thing. Cause I keep going back to how you described the look of God. Are all of our consciousness like tethered to one? Yes. We're just unaware of that at a conscious level right now,
[00:32:03] but I can testify after all of my experiences that if you want to connect to somebody, all you have to do is think about them. Nothing else is required. No fancy Reiki symbol, no feet of consciousness is required. We're all a part of one giant soul that you could call earth. And we are all soul family. I mean, we're all interpreting sensory data in the same frequency ranges. It's what makes this shared reality possible.
[00:32:32] When you're out of the body, your spirit isn't hardwired to an electrical system. So you can just change your frequency and the whole world around you will change. So just the fact that we're interacting in this co-creative earth is empirical proof of our connection because we all share the same tree, the same nervous system, the same matrix. So, so we're all connected in this way.
[00:32:58] It's just that the paradigm that we're in is one of seeming disconnectivity. It's, it's the unique experience of this world. I just try and think that if we're all on this and we're all one linked consciousness, I don't want to say it's like almost simulated, but it's almost like the world that we're living in is just what's being projected. Like it's the way our mind's projecting it to be.
[00:33:28] That makes sense? Yes. Yes. It's, it's the electrical system, the neuron structure, the, the, this is a, to use biblical terms, we're in the tree of knowledge. A tree is an ancient word for a matrix. A matrix is a set of pathways or circuitry that allows spirit to translate vibration as sensory data. Without a matrix, without a tree, there's just the uniform universal energy that is the Holy Spirit of God.
[00:33:57] So because of the electrical system that we're in, we're able to translate this as ground that we stand on, air that we breathe, sun that shines on us, other people that, that we talk to. In truth, there's, there's just mind and spirit, which, which is energy. So when you say simulation, all realities are, are a simulation of a greater truth, which is this waveform universal source. Energy that, that I call the Holy Spirit.
[00:34:26] I think like, for me, it's a, when people are more of a religious type and I'm trying to think of, I don't know the, it's not so much a, a Hindu thing. Is it where they kind of talk about similar things to this? Mm-hmm. I'm not too familiar with the Hindu religion, but, uh, I've met,
[00:34:55] met a few Hindus and they're, they're very open to everything that I teach and share about energy. So I, I would assume that it's quite similar because I seem to attract a decent amount of people from that, uh, religion. Yeah. I think, again, I could be completely off base, but I think that they have more of the, the mindset of like what the meditations and being able to leave their bodies. And, Oh yes, yes. So the yogis. Yeah, for sure.
[00:35:26] This is something that, again, I've had a few different people live on here and talked about, but a lot of it has been more so about just like out of body experiences or the astral plane. Is there been any time where, when you've been out there, you've learned information from something like one of these other beings that you've encountered? Uh, what type of information?
[00:35:52] Do you mean like just anything that has helped you along the way? Well, somewhat, uh, I've really learned the most from being in spirit while being inside of my body here. What I've learned from all of these travels is that we're here on earth because it's the next level of, of upgrade to our spirit.
[00:36:21] The experience that we're in here is a, is a deeper experience than that from which we came. So I've had some pretty miraculous experiences out of the body, but I wouldn't say that I, I, the most profound things that I learned were from experiencing spirit from within the body on the physical plane. But I have had very wonderful experiences out of the body.
[00:36:49] But I would say that I classify the out of body experience more for rest and recreation. And that, that the physical experience here, that being in spirit while you're in the physical, that that's where you're going to learn the most. Is there anything that you would like to share about some of these experiences? Experiences in the body, for example? Yeah. Yeah. Well, when you, when you expand spirit,
[00:37:18] the thing to know about spirit, spirit is mind and, and energy and energy is, is everywhere. So when you expand the spirit beyond the body, you go into a state of consciousness that I call oneness. So your, your spirit is both inside your body and outside your body. You can either project it forwards like a beam. My favorite is just to expand like a sphere or like an oval in, into the reality around me. As you do that,
[00:37:45] you get five sensory information everywhere your spirit touches. So even now, as I talk to you and I do this, I can project through my feet and into the floor. I can feel the molecules of the floor, floorboards as though they're an extension of my body. I can take a breath and I can actually smell the wood in, in my sinuses and, and throughout my, my brain. My favorite thing to do is to feel the Holy spirit in the elements here.
[00:38:15] As I do these expansions of consciousness, everybody knows that the light of having air breeze against your skin, but very few people know what it feels like to actually be air. And when you expand past the body and spirit, you, you become the air, you become the ground that you're walking on. You become the sunlight in the air. You become the water in, in the air and the presence of God is there in all of these different densities of energy in, in these different elements.
[00:38:44] And they're very harmonic with each other. So when you expand and you become the air, then you feel the water in the air. And now you're one with water and air at the same time. And then the sunlight shines through that water and that air. And now you're all three at once. It's, it's, it's a source of endless joy. As human beings, we live to feel, and we're always chasing permission slips to feel greater and more
[00:39:14] significant things. Permission slips like job promotion, new possessions, you know, the, for some people it's drugs and substances and sex, you know, these, these are permission slips to feel heightened sensations. But when you reconnect to your spirit, just being out in nature surpasses all of those experiences that can be had through what I call permission slips. So, yeah,
[00:39:41] I've just had so many experiences being one with nature that surpass anything that you could ever do, you know, without the spirit sensory in the physical body. And one of the things that I'm known for is telekinesis. In 2011, when I first came out, I was either the first or one of the first to upload demonstrations of, of telekinetic activity, moving the wind,
[00:40:10] changing directions of the wind or atmospheric changes, causing still water to ripple and vibrate. I got all these demonstrations on YouTube and, and it pretty much started a movement. Like I said, I'm not claiming to be the first, but I was at least one of the first. And we started this movement that you see on YouTube with all these, there's thousands of YouTube channels now where people are practicing different
[00:40:37] forms of telekinetic interaction with the elements. And that used to be my, my primary playground with this stuff. But now it's more, it's more about loving God in the moment, filling up your vessel with the love of God, expanding out into nature and finding more of God everywhere that you expand, because God is omnipresent. So there's nowhere that God is not. So at first I used to get a lot of joy,
[00:41:05] exercising power from this because I could show people things. That, that isn't so much my focus anymore. It's, it's about building the presence of God in my body and acknowledging the presence of God in, in the elements as I do these expansions of consciousness. For anyone that's wanting to learn how to do stuff like this, what would you, like what would their first way of trying to,
[00:41:35] like if you can tell someone that's listening like this, if they're interested in trying to do this, what would be one of the first things they need to try and do? Well, the first thing that I would work on is lowering the brainwaves. First, first you have to wake up. You have to remember your spirit and take that word literally like re dash member. You re remember your spirit. And the easiest way to do that is to reduce the brainwaves, to lower the brainwaves.
[00:42:02] If you can reduce your brainwaves into the theta brainwave state, and while you're still awake, then, then all of this that I'm describing will, will just happen to you spontaneously. Your sensory, your nervous system connection will diminish to the point where you will remember your spirit. And all of a sudden you'll feel your astral body. Spirit is how we're piloting this physical body right now. So it's just,
[00:42:32] we're so hypnotized, so entrained by the electrical sensory data that we don't feel it. So if you can reduce your brainwaves down into the theta state, you will begin to have various levels of experience with spirit. Now, some people are more clairsentient, which is, uh, through the touch. Some are more clairaudient. Some are more clairvoyant. Some, some are naturally all three. So as you reduce the brainwaves, it'll open up for you in different ways.
[00:43:00] And a great tool for reducing the brainwaves is, is theta binaural beats. That's binaural, uh, B-I-N-A-U-R-A-L. You can type that in on YouTube and a whole plethora of theta binaural beats will, will open up. And, uh, uh, the theta range is four to seven pulses per second. So it's like, but a binaural beats more, uh, like waveforms. It's like,
[00:43:29] and you listen to it and it entrains your brainwaves. And the more you listen and shut your mind off from thinking, it just sort of happens. Now, some people do really well with the binaural beats. I'm more of a metronome guy myself. So I'll tend to fall asleep if I'm listening to a binaural, but everybody's different. Um, so I would recommend to the listeners to also type in theta metronome. Theta is T-H-E-T-A. Now a metronome is more sharp and concise,
[00:43:58] like that, that, that, that, that, that, that, or like a beat on a drum or sometimes like an alarm clock. That's the one that I liked the most. It sounds jolting and jarring to the senses at first when you turn it on. But if you start to let it entrain you, then it starts to smooth out and mellow out. And the sharpness of it will actually keep you, help keep you awake as you reduce into the state. So I would, I would suggest to your listeners to experiment with the theta brainwave state,
[00:44:28] in particular, laying on your back with your eyes closed and to give a go with both the metronome and the binaural beat. I think for me, when you started doing that, the, the noise, the vibrational noise or whatever, that actually, it makes me, I don't want to say like zone out, but like when I hear stuff like that, it actually does relax me. Like if I'm trying to sleep, I almost need a constant sound.
[00:44:57] And something like that, like when you were just doing that, I was like, man, I could probably listen to that enough to relax and go to sleep. Just that type of noise. Yeah. And you would be surprised with what, like my favorite is, is the theta metronome that sounds like an alarm clock. and after like three minutes of that, you'll start to hear all other different types of sounds on top of that. It'll start to smooth out and twine together.
[00:45:26] You'll start to maybe hear voices or sounds from other dimensions. It'll happen to everybody. Um, they'll, they'll just tend to discount the data, but I'm telling you, it's your clear audience waking up and you can even start to hear music on top of it. And all sorts of things, you'll start to get flash openings of, of your inner vision. And you'll start to get, uh, flash sensations of, of your spirit presence within your body as you do it. Mm.
[00:45:56] Well, I think it's getting close to the time where I usually try and wrap, this up, but I was going to ask you before we do, obviously I want you to let everyone know where they can find more information about you, but is there anything else you would like to discuss before we do decide to wrap this one up? Well, I would just like to let everyone know that in times past, this was all very esoteric and reserved for secret societies.
[00:46:24] And it just wasn't the time for everyone to awaken and mass to this, to the religious people. I want them to understand that there's a certain folly in attempting to get to know God without getting to know your spirit. Uh, if you think that, that you're a human being, then, then you're only sensing through, through the five senses, then you really don't have an authentic self to give to God yet. Uh,
[00:46:53] I started out with, with, with, with the voice of God talking to me and then prayer miracles by praying to God in the name of Jesus. And I got very far with that, but that same presence, the Holy spirit led me to, to energy mastery. So I'm sort of like between a rock and a hard place because I'm not, uh, uh, fully religious and, and I'm not fully spiritual. So to the religious community, I would, I would like to say you can only get so far in your relationship with God.
[00:47:23] And until you remember your spirit and to the spiritual community that has a hard time with even the G word itself has a hard time with God. You can only get so far in your meditations and your self mastery practices, uh, by leaving your creator out of it. That I want the spiritual people to know that God is real, that we do have a creator, that, that a lot of the new age spiritual concepts that they are correct and true,
[00:47:53] but that they actually fit in quite nicely with a lot of the religious concepts as well. Like the Trinity, like, like God, the Holy spirit and the Christ. These are all very real things. And like I said, I've positioned myself between a rock and a hard place, but I, I don't mind because, um, it's, it's, it's the truth. There's a validity to both the spiritual side and to the religious side. And there's a nice harmony that meets in the middle. If you're open to it,
[00:48:24] where can everyone find more information about where they can reach out to you or look into your videos? Absolutely. Well, I have a bio site, which is my name, Michael Monk dot bio, B I O, Michael Monk dot bio. Okay. And on there, they can find all that information. Everything. Yeah. I have two different, uh, branches, uh, of my learning. One of it is,
[00:48:51] is more geared towards the self empowerment and remembering your spirit. That's called the avatar energy mastery Institute. And then I have another branch, which is more about using this self mastery, using your spiritual attunement to massively enhance your relationship with God. I call that the metaphysical church of the tree of life. Also on my bio site is links to all of my social media, YouTube channel, demonstrations and interviews and all of that,
[00:49:19] all of its access through my bio site. Okay. I'll make sure to include that in my show notes for anyone listening. There'll be a link in there for them to check it out. Appreciate it, Brandon. Well, thanks for having me. Hey, not a problem. I was going to say, thanks for coming on here tonight and talking about it. This has always been something that's always been fascinating to me. I'm getting, I'm, I don't know a whole lot about this type of stuff. So whenever someone comes on here and talks about it, I do find it interesting because it's something that does.
[00:49:49] I don't, it makes me think. And that's one of the things that I, I enjoy about doing the show is I want to learn more about the stuff that I'm not familiar with. Okay. Well, if you ever want to do more than just think, let, let me know. It's been my tradition since 2011. Anybody that has me on their program can access any of my teachings for free for the rest of your life. So just reach out if you're interested. I definitely will probably hit you up on that one. Excellent. Well, I look forward to it.
[00:50:19] Well, I just want to say for everyone out there, make sure to check out the show notes if you're interested. And thanks to Michael for coming on here tonight and speaking with us, but. You're welcome. On that note, we're going to wrap this up. So again, thanks for listening. Thanks to Michael and we will check you out on the next one. If you would like to be a guest on 10 foil tells, remember to send an email to 10 foil tells podcast at gmail.com,
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