Ep. 118: The Hopkinsville Goblins

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing. It don't like death. Welcome back to another new episode of Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host Brandon Wright. Tonight we're going to be joined by my guest, Gerald Dean. I'm excited about this episode. It is one of those topics that I want to get into with got me wanted to do the whole podcast in general stories like these, but the story happened in nineteen fifty five. If you listen to the show, you may be familiar with it, but I'm going to be talking to one of the surviving daughters of one of the members from the family that was there during the whole experience. But before we bring her on, you've ever had an experience and you'd like to be on an episode of tenfoil Tels, there's a few things you can do. You can either send an email to Tenfoiltales podcast at gmail dot com, or you can go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to the contact section. Or you can find me on Facebook look for Brandon tenfoil Teals and you can send me a message on there. Whichever way you choose will work for me, so just make sure to reach out and we will get something scheduled for a future episode. 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Thanks for coming on here and talking to me tonight. Well, thank you for having me. I'm very honored. Well, when we dive into it, I'll be honored too, because it's the topic you're going to talk about is something that's fascinating me for a long time. But before we do that, would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself. Sure, of course. My name is Cherldine. I'll go ahead and tell you. It's sudden stuff grew up on a farm all my life that he was a farmer, and so you know, it's kind of I guess innocence because we did grow up innocent. We didn't grow up wild or crazy or anything. But I am from a family of twelve kids. My mom had seven kids by our first marriage, and she had five by my dad, so there was a bunch of us. So there was always something exciting going on. But the story that I'm about to tell, you know, this is something that my parents kept from us and did not talk about. And I actually found this out by accident. I don't think they meant to let us know. As young as we were at the time, you know, they didn't really want to know about this, but they figured, you know, they better learn sometime because they're gonna find it out. But they did keep it hush hushed. The older kids knew about it because my mom and her first husband lived in Kelly, Kentucky, where this incident happened, and so they knew about it, but they never talked about it either. So you know, it was kind of strange that this was never brought up till it was. But yeah, I mean this story is great. People love it. I mean I get people from all over the country contacting me all the time, you know, want to know more, you know, anything they can get hold of because it is a great story. Basically, I heard about this years ago, and I forget where I watched it. That it was one of those reenactment shows, and I believe it's probably a history channel or one of those whatever. But yeah, I actually think there was Also, they did an episode of Project Blue Book on it, and I've always found it fascinating, so I tried to do some research on the real thing. And then I've seen people, oh, it's owls or whatever before we dive into like I would hope people would know the difference between an owl, you know, like I don't always I hate when people do that, Like they always use a known animal as an explanation for something like people wouldn't know what a basic animal looks like. If I'm out in the middle of nowhere and I see a bear, I'm going to know that as a bear. I'm not going to say it's something else. If I see a bird in the tree, well, that's a bird in the tree. It's not going to be an alien. So right, stuff like that always irritates me, but it does. But you got to realize the our species doesn't want to recognize other species. Let's just get it out there. We don't want to think there is another life form other than us. And I can tell you that for a fact because I've done enough festivals and symposiums and stuff to know people will come you know, I've had people come up to me and tell me that there is no such thing that we're it. We're the only ones. And these are usually you know, you're we do live in a Bible belt, so these are usually people that are very religious and think that we are it and that's all. So, yeah, they don't want to think there's anything else, so they're going to try to rational it out, rationalize it out as something else. You know, I get that. I kind of did the same thing with my own stuff, so I get that aspect of it too, Like everyone tries to find the rational explanation, but sometimes those rational explanations make no sense compared to the unexplainable. So well, the unexplainables is more fun. I guess it's more interesting. People like to hear the weird stuff for. And be a boring world. If we didn't have such things going on, you know what really would be. Yeah, well, if you are ready, you can dive on into it. All right, Well, let's get into this. As I said earlier, we didn't know about this. Parents kept it quiet until one day back in nineteen sixty nine. It wasummertime. It was hot, of course, hot summer in Kentucky. It was a Sunday afternoon and me and my siblings were sitting in the living room watching Sunday Afternoon cartoons. My mom and dad were in the back bedroom with the new baby, and there was a knock at the door. Well, I answered the door because I was the oldest one's sitting there watching the cartoons, and there was this man woman standing there. They were both dressed like they just come from church and asked to speak to my dad. So I thought, okay, So I rant at the back where mom and dad was told the somebody's up here wanting to talk to you. So they met at the front door, and the man told my dad said, mister Sutton, we want to talk to you about the Green Men. Well, I was eight years old and I was already loving horror movies, sci fi, just whatever you know back then you could catch on the old black and white TV. And so when he said green Men, my little ears perked up and I thought, what do we got here? So anyway, my mom and dad looked at each other and I could tell my dad just changed and they said, Okay, come on in, and they thought, well they're going to find out sometime today is as good as any. So everybody sat down as kids sat on the floor, and my dad started telling this incredible story. And it happened Kelly, Kentucky, nineteen fifty five, August twenty first, the day that my family will never forget. That weekend. It happened on my grandmother's farm, Miss Glennie Lankfort. She was a widower, well she was a widow, not a widower, or she was a widow there with her three small children, which were twelve, ten and seven at the time, and my uncle jac and Aunti Eileen stayed there with her, and occasionally Aileen's brother Opie Baker would be there. And that Sunday evening when this all occurred, he happened to be there. Well, along came my dad, his first wife, Vera, and their friends Billy Ray and June Taylor. They were stationed in Evansville, Indiana at the time because they worked with a carnival. Well they were so close to home, they were like a couple hours away, so they were able to get away from the carnival for a few days and come back home and visit and you know, just relax and get some good old home cooking and just get away from the carnival life for a few days. Well, Sunday afternoon, well, Sunday evening June June Sunday evening, August twenty. First, they were all sitting around. This was going to be their last night there because my dad and then had to get back to work. My dad's name was Elma Sutton, of course is nickname Lucky. So they were all sitting around and it was hot. Like I said, it had been a dry month, and Billy Ray decided to go out to the well to get some water. They did not have plumbing in the house. They did have electricity. Let me make that clear. They did have that. So he went out into the well. As he's standing there getting the water out, he heard something. He looked up toward the sky where he heard this noise, and lo and behold, going across the sky was something oval in shape, silver and color and had all of the colors of the rainbow flowing behind it. Well, he didn't know what it was, and it kind of frightened him, so he took off running to the house, slammed the door behind didn't Well, this caught everyone's attention. They stopped what they were doing, looked at him, and his wife asked him. June asked him, well, Billy Ray, what's wrong with you? And he told her, he said, there's something out here. Well, the first thing they're thinking, the first thing my dad is thinking, Well, Billy Ray went out there, concocted this crazy story to you know, get the girls going and you know, just make their last night there crazy. And he just kept on. He wouldn't stop, and so my dad finally told him, fine, Billy Ray, let's go back out where you were. You show me what you saw. Of course, while they were in the house, everybody was trying to reason with him and telling him that it was either a shooting star or a meteor shower, because they had been having meteor showers that month. But Billy Ray told him, says, no, I know what those looked like. It was none of those things. So anyway, they headed out into the wall. He pointed towards sky. I told my dad again what he had saw, and he looked and he's like, Bille Rock's nothing out here. And he says, you're sure it wouldn't a shooting star. Maybe your meteor shower, and Billi Ray told him says, lucky you, No, it was neither of those. None, I know what those look like, and he told him, he said, well, listen, there's nothing here. Let's go back in the house. Enjoy our last night here because we got to go back to work tomorrow. So he agreed, and they headed toward the house. As they were heading toward the house, the old hound dog come running by him, tail touched ears down, runs straight out of the house. My dad thought nothing of it. He thought, well, he just got himself in trouble, maybe got into a beehive or something. And so they kept walking and right before they got into the house, along the back where the woods were behind the house, they saw this little figure. It was around three and a half foot tall, had a big round head, big round glowing eyes, huge ears, arms were down almost touching the ground, and it floated on top of the ground. Its legs were not moving, it was floating. Well, they didn't know what this was. Nobody would know. We wouldn't know. So they take running off into the house, slam the door behind them. Well, of course gets everybody's attention. Well what's wrong with you two? They ask, And my dad told them there is something out here. I don't know what it is, but there's something out here. And my grandmother told them, said, Elma, y'all need to just stop. I gotta get these kids in bed, and you are not helping any And he told him, he says, mom, there is something out here. I saw it with my eyes. And she just, you know, puffed it off and just went on. And everybody started back to doing what they were doing and laughing at the men. And they thought, well, Billy Ray thing got lucky out there to agree with his little plan to try to scare the girls, because you know, they were only in their early twenties. Billy Ray's wife was only eighteen or nineteen, So that was their thought. You know, they're just trying to cook up something to scare the girls. Well, my grandmother thought differently. When one grabbed the rifle and one grabbed the shotgun. One went to the front door and one went to the back, and she thought, hum, this is getting serious. So she decides to go to the back door where Billy Ray is. She goes back back there on the porch and squats downside it, and she says, Billy Ray, what did you see? And he told her he said, miss Glennie, I don't know what it was, but I hope it's something you never have to see. So they sat there in silence. They could hear the banter going on in the house, the kids and the others talking, and lo and behold. Along the corner of the house where my grandmother was sitting, there come one. She saw it, face to face. She screams and falls to the floor, and everybody comes running and she tells him, says, I just saw it. There is something out here there really really is. About that time, a shot rings out in the front of the house. They take off chase. My uncle Jay c shot one through the front window. Well, Billy Ray. He decides to run out the front door, and where he is standing is a little stoop that goes over the door, and as he's standing there, they see a hand to come down to try to grab his hair. Wellma Aunt Eileen grabs him and pulls him in the house, and my dad runs out, turns toward the roof there and shoots at it. Well, of course he hit it. These are country boys, they could shoot practically by the time they could walk. Someone screams, there's one in the big tree. He turns around, because they got these huge maple trees in the front yard. Sure, one setting on the big limb. Well, Aimee shoots it, he hits it, if it just kind of floats to the ground, hits the ground, rolls, goes away. By the time it's all said, they have shot one off the back fence. They're shooting them away from the house and this is a constant Well, the kids are scared, they're screaming and crying. The women are screaming and crying. June is really about to lose it, and they don't know what to do because these things are coming back. They're not dying. And my dad always said he thought it was three or four of them. I knowing some accounts she'll read it was like eleven or twelve. But he says, no, no, it was never that many. It was the same ones coming back. So he tries to calm the family down. He tells him, he says, listen, we're gonna get help soon we can. We're gonna run in those trucks. We're gonna head to Hopkinsville. Hopkinsville was like seven miles down road. We'll get help. We'll go to the police department. And so they sat there and he gets everybody quiet and they're trying to listen to see if anything's happening, and lo and behold, they can hear one going across the tin roof. They can hear its little nails clacking like it's doing it on purpose along the roof. Well, this sends kids crying and screaming again. The women are screaming and crying. Vera asks my dad, what are we gonna do? And he says, listen, just just calm it down. He says, we're gonna get to Hopkinsville. We're going to get help. So he gets everybody quiet again and they're listening. They don't hear nothing, they don't see anything, and he says, let's go. So they run, jump in the trucks and take off to hopkins still keeping their eyes behind them the whole way, afraid these things are going to follow them. They get to Hopkins Steel and you've got eleven people from the age of seven to fifty running in on this one little officer in the middle of the night. Because this was nineteen fifties, you know, one officer on duty, was it. They're all trying to tell the guy, listen, we just had an incident at her farm. And they're trying to tell him what it was, and he's trying to understand. They're all trying to talk at the same time, and he says, listen. He says, you're trying to tell me you've had little men attack your farm. And my dad told him. He says, you're not understanding what we're trying to tell you. He says, listen, let me call the chief. So he gets Chief Russell Gringwle on the phone and tells them what's going on. And he tells them listen, keep them there, try to keep them calm. I'm on the way. He says, call Fort Campbell, which Fort Campbell Army Base was like ten miles from Hopkinsville. He said, call them, call the paper, you know, just get a hold of whoever you can. We're going out to Kelly. So by the time it's all said and done, you've got this caravan vehicles going out. It's a little bitty Kelly in the middle of the night. Back in the nineteen fifties, there was only like a population of fifty and they were sparse, little farms just around there. So when they get out there, it's pitch black dark. Of course, there's no lights, and they're pulling up in their driveway and they feel like something's happened. It's eery feeling. It's just not right. Plus on top of that, you've got shotgun and rifle shells all over the place through all the with the ground, they're all over the inside of the house, they're everywhere. As they're pulling up the car they had some police officers in it, didn't notice a glowing substance on the back fence. Weird they had shot one. So the first thing they did as soon as they got out of the car was run to that substance. But as they got up to it, the globe stopped, so they thought, well, you know, nothing here, we guess, But they didn't notice when they'd walk away from it or get a distance away, it would glow, So they never understood that. The chief and all of them searched the premises. They couldn't find anything. They looked under the house, they looked everywhere. They couldn't find anything. Finally, the chief went to my grandmother and said, Miss Glenney, I'm so sorry that there's nothing here. He says, there's nothing we can do, says we look, we got to go back and because there was no blood, nobody's nothing, no fur, no feathers, nothing. So they left, and they left my grandmother and the others to get through the night with what just happened once again. So my grandmother got the kids finally settled down, got them to sleep, and she went to lay down. She got in her bed, and my dad got in the rocking chair beside her with a shotgun across his lap, and he sat there with her. Well, they were exhausted mentally and physically exhausted. And she opens her eyes and low and behold, she thinks she sees one at the window again. Well, she thinks, well, I'm just tired. I'm just tired. So she closed her eyes. She opens them again, and the little thing is still standing there. She closes them, she thinks one more time, opens them the third time it's still there, and she screams at my dad their back, and so they start shooting again, and they keep these little bee out of the house the rest of the night until morning. When morning hit and the sun came up, they left. Why they don't know. The only thing they could figure was that the little eyes couldn't take the sunlight. That's the only thing they could figure. My dad set the family down and told him says, listen, nothing can come of this, Nothing good at all can come of this. He says, we're going to forget it. We're not going to talk about it. He said, I heard them last night. They were out there laughing at us. So just let it go. So some of the men left for a little while to go do something, and the women were there by themselves with kids, and lo and behold we had the people invasion. People were coming from everywhere. Word had gotten out that little men had come to care. So you had people camping out in the yard wanting to see the little men, thinking they would come back. They were walking through the house, they were taking souvenirs, picking up stuff out of the yard, doing everything. My grandmother told one of the Well, my grandmother told my dad, you know they're gonna rob was blund We're not gonna have anything left. And so he went and talked one of the police officers, and at the time he was able to get all the people to leave, but of course the officers couldn't stay there all the time, so once they were gone, the people would come back and it would start all over again. Well, my grandmother didn't know what to do that morning had happened. I did find out later that Fort Campbell did send some men down and they did do a grid search. But my grandmother didn't know what to do. She was scared to death because my dad, Billy Ray had to go back to work. She was going to be left through with the three kids, my uncle Jace and aunt Eileen. Every once in a while Op would be there, but that would be it. Could they handle this again if it were to happen, She did not know. She sold the farm within two weeks and moved to Hopsville into an apartment complex. So did JC and Eileen. They felt safety in numbers, get away from that farm, get away from being isolated, and that's what they did. And that's my family's story and that's what happened. How long was it before they actually started talking about it with you guys. Well, they didn't. That's just it. Like I said, they didn't talk about to anybody. You know, people were coming from everywhere wanting to talk to my grandmother. Of course, nobody really got to talk to my dad and Billy Ray very much because they had to leave. You know, they talked to a few people, they were able to sit down with somebody and make the drawings of the little beings. But years later, in the seventies, my grandmother did get with Isabelle Davis and was able to talk to her and tell her everything, and there was isabel put out a really good book about the whole incident, with pictures and drawings and everything. But that's basically the only real person besides you know, the people that were showing up back then. Of course, you had people coming from everywhere, you know, in Madisonville, Evansville, how many people even from California coming down trying to get the story. You know, over the years, like the people that came that day in nineteen sixty nine, I want to talk to my dad the first time we heard it. That would happen every once in a while. That's what they were there for. They were wanting to write a book. It got to where my dad would just refuse over the years, you know, right before he passed away, he had some people from Germany contacting him, wanting to speak to him about that. They were even going to bring him over to Germany instead of them coming here, and he just down right refused. It was a diff it, I mean, it was just too much for him. It frightened him death. I mean, my uncle Jay c was a Korean War event and this incident affected him more than him going over there to war, because these little beings were something that, like I said, these were country boys. They were hitting these things with shotguns and rifles, and they were not dying. They were bouncing back up and coming back. My little mind. My Aunt Harry, who was seven at the time, she's a little bitty thing, little bitty today, and these things were probably as big as she was, if not bigger. And you know, it's terrifying. You know, they will not talk about it. The three kids. You know, my uncle Lawnie, who is now eighty, he used to talk about it, but now he won't. And I believe it's because, you know, his mind's gotten slower, and I think he's afraid he will get things wrong and he doesn't want to. The two other kids who were ten and seven, my uncle Charlton and Aunt Mary, they will not talk about it. It's like they've blocked it out of their minds. But like I said, this was terrifying. If it happened to any of us today, it would be terrifying because you just don't know when you're meeting up with something that you're shooting at and hitting and it ain't dying. That's terrifying. And the falling week I had to put this in there. The falling week after we heard the story, my day decided to take us to Kelly and show us where it all happened. So we pull up there. The old house is still standing. It's falling in, but it's still there. The well is still there, it's still there today. And we see all that, and then he walked us way in the backfield, back in the woods and lo and behold, I'll never forget it. There was this big round spot in the grass that was it was still dead for nothing growing there. And this was sixty nine when we went to see this, and that happened in fifty five and there's still no grass growing there. I've had people come up and tell me that lived in Kelly over the years, saying telling me that when they were kids, they would walk over that spot going hunting back in there. So there are several people that have actually seen that spot. And you know that just gave it more credits. You know that it happened, that something happened to this family that night. Now, why did this little spaceship land in Kelly, We don't know. We'll never know because they're not here to tell us. But after the fact, there was a lot of people that came forward and talked about seeing lights in the sky that day, hearing noises, seeing lights that night. In fact, if you look at them up and you see Kelly, you will see Kelly, you will see Hopkinsville, you will see Fort Campbell, and you will see Clarksville. Well, people were seeing lights Clarksville, Fort Campbell, Hopkins Fill all the way to Kelly. So there were lights and things being seen that night that people didn't know what they were. But you got to remember, we got a Fort Campbell Army base set there. So in the back of people's minds, the way they can get rid of this is as Fort Campbell they're doing something tonight. And you know, it's the same way today if we see you know where we live. We're close to Fort Knox, So you know, I believe when people see funny lights in the sky, they do the same thing as they do down at Fort Campbell or any military base, anybody that lives around one. I was just them doing night maneuvers. They're trying something new out, you know, and that's how we get rid of that. But yes, there was a lot things seen in her during the day, that day, at Sunday and that night, so it was crazy. Yeah, did they I know you mentioned the craft and everything, but did they all believe they were aliens? Because I'm I'm trying to come up before the idea whe everyone says Kentucky goblins. So where did the whole goblin forcept come from? The goblin concept came from my grandmother, who thought that it was some kind of being or goblin that the devil had brought forth. My grandmother was real religious. She had been to church that night and so that was her first thought that these are little beings that the devil had brought forth to bring on them for some reason, goblins, And so they were known as goblins. And I love the Hopkins Hill goblin thing, you know. I like the Kelly Green men. And let me tell you this little fact. The color Kelly green derives from the Kelly Green Men. So when you hear Kelly Green, just remember Kelly Green men brought that one. But it was later decided that they were probably extraterrestrial because of the lights and everything that had been seen that evening. And you know the fact that and you will never hear this because this was brought forth later. Well. As a matter of fact, somebody actually told me this that lived there at the time and seen this happen. There was a grid, military grid. They searched the property, the land, the fields that my grandmother had, like twenty seven acres, and something was found. Something was put under somebody's shirt, and something was put in the back of a truck, and that truck took off. Now we'll never know what it was because they're not gonna let us know what it was. But something apparently was found that morning. Yeah, the the truth of that will probably never be brought out just because I don't think they ever really sent any sort of real information. No, And you know, it's like I tried to explain to people too, they never did proper protocol. They never you know, rope the place off that they never took samples of anything. You know, people contaminated it because they came in, you know, started setting up their tents and stuff, wanting to wait for them to come back. So nothing was They just finally put it to bed by saying that, oh, they were just a bunch of uneducated he'll billies, you know, that's how they tried to get rid of it. Well, beg your pardon, but no, they weren't. My dad was a very intelligent man. He could do anything. And my grandmother wasn't stupid either, you know. Like I said, jac he was a Korean War vet and this terrified him beyond belief. He couldn't even help the job the rest of his life because this was just something that I think it stated at the back of their mind that these things were going to come back because they didn't get what they wanted the first time, so you know, why wouldn't they be back? And I try to tell people too. You know, my daddy was a small man, but there was two things that terrified him. I mean, he would fight a bear for what he believed in, but two things terrified him, and that was tornadoes because he had been in a tornado, and the goblins the green men, because I think they all thought to a certain extent that these things left unresolved. You know that while were they there, and while were they so persistent, you know, trying to get in and you know, sure, they left that little while while all the other people were there, but then they came right back. So you know, it's that affair was always there, and if you were lucky enough to get my dad to talk about it, you could tell he was terrified. I mean the color would leave his face. I mean it was like, you know, just tell a terrifying story, something that you've been through, like if you had been through a tornado. You know, it's terrifying that they went through some kind of encounter that night, and it lasted all night long. They didn't know if they were gonna live or die. Let's be honest here, because these things we're trying to get in now. My grandmother, like I said, was really religious and she would give people the benefit of the doubt, and she tried to tell my dad, well, maybe something's wrong with them, maybe they need help. But that was unrealistic, and it was very unrealistic to my dad because you know, he was a country boy and it was like shoot first and asked questions later. And he tried to tell my grandmother, we don't know if these are we're not going to let them in the house, you know. Being the good hearted person, she was, and so you know, there's a lot people don't understand. There are a lot of went on that night, you know, as far as the family dynamic was concerned, and what happened, A lot went on with that family that night. And it's just terrifying. You know. I was talking to you earlier about me not liking to watch or listen to podcasts or watch anything extraterrestrial because to me, it's terrifying because after this incident happened. Let me tell you, like I said, I was eight years old when this happened, and I loved sci fi and horror. But when I heard this story, that blew the sci fi down the tubes for a while, because I was terrified. I thought these things were going to come back. Every night I would run through the house when it got dark. Those shades and curtains and doors and windows were closed because I I was afraid these things were going to come back and we're going to looking in the windows at us, you know. And the terrifying thing that was at the time, we lived close to Fort Campbell and at night time they would send up the flares and I would see those flares and it would be like, oh, man, you know, it was terrifying. Just everything was terrifying anymore when the night came. Even today, I mean, if we're out and about at night time, I always keep my eye on the sky because it's it's terrifying. You know. Have I seen lights at night? I can't explain, you, darn right I have. I've seen several different things that were unexplainable that we're flying across the sky. That you roll your window down when you're driving and you can hear a sound. I've seen the ones that are triangular that has the three lights in each corner. You know. When I was like twelve years old, Like I said, I used to make sure everything was shut tight at night. I remember one night when I was going to bed. Of course, them curtains were closed super tight. You couldn't see a light through them. Suckers. Well, for some crazy reason, I don't know why, but something possessed me to open up the curtains and look out. Well, going across the sky was this square and I mean square object with lights around it. Now, what in the devil made me open up curtain at night when I'd never done it before? And there, lo and behold, there was something going across the sky. It didn't make any sense. So, yeah, it's terrifying to me to think about other beings out there. Do I think there are other beings? Heck, yeah, I think they're the beings. I don't think we're the only thing here. You know, you've got to be crazy to think we're the only thing here when there are billions of galaxies and stars and that, you know, just we'll never know what's out there. It's so massive, and to believe we're it, that's just absolutely ludicrous. I heard something today, and basically I think they're saying concept of space, whatever it is, I fegel like over fifty maybe sixty something billion light years across like the entire width of the universe. So and each there was like a like trillions of different stars, and every star has an average of over two planets or something like that. Right, mathematically, it's insane to say that we're the only planet with life. It just doesn't make sense exactly exactly. That blows behind when I hear people say that they think we're it. Maybe we're the only ones within our solar system or within our like right back of the woods of the universe, But that doesn't mean there's not something else out there somewhere, right exactly. Just that whole idea to me has always made me like scratch my head, just because it doesn't make much sense to say that we're the only place that could have life because we don't know the entire universe. We don't even know our own planet, Like no one even knows the bottom of the ocean exactly. You know, there's parts of the Amazon Force that nobody's ever been in, you know. And to think that there's nothing else out there when, like you say, we can't even you know, we don't even know what's in our own planet or on our own planet, right exactly, it's amazing to me close my mind. Yeah, but for some reason, everybody has their own opinions. But and that's fine. I have my own two, right, It's just I hope mine is a little bit more logical. Than some others, right exactly. But yeah, the Goblin thing and all of that. Like I said, this has been something that is always interested in me just because I heard about it years ago, and I'm just honored to actually talk to someone from the actual family because it's been a story that's been going on for almost seventy years now. Yes, and I've seen it on multiple shows. Yes, so it's a it's awesome for me to doing a podcast. Literally, I think I sent you a little bit ago that the photo. I have one of my friends, he's an artist, and he drew the Kentucky got. I have a sticker that he drew. I have the artwork he drew. But like that is one of the things. Yeah, you have. To like that stuff. I've got all kinds of stuff like that too. Time you go to something that that, there's always somebody selling goblin stuff. Yeah, always, so you know you've got to get some of it. Got to Yeah, my walls are full of stuff in my office. But yeah, but it's a cool story. I mean, people really love it. It's like I said, it's wild widely known, and ufologists call it the Granddaddy of UFO stories. You know, you just don't hear this happening to other people. I saw online, yes, that the US military had ruled a hoax. But I was thinking about this. Why would your family just start shooting up their house, right, What was the end goal of that, Oh, We're going to shoot our house up and then say the aliens came down here. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, people, you know, why would they shift the house because you know, my grandmother couldn't afford to have her house fixed back. You know, she was a Wow, she didn't have the money to do all that and that. Yeah, that's what. See. People just don't put two and two together and understand the situation here. You know, the house was shot up. I mean that was You don't do that when you can't afford to have it fixed. You know, that's your home. That's all she had was that twenty seven acres and that that little wooden house. So yeah, she wouldn't have shot her home up. And like I said, she was so religious. She would not tell a lie of her life depended on it. And that's one thing that the chief, you know, wholeheartedly believed it. A lot of people believed it simply because the chief, Russell Greenwell, had an incident happened to him a couple of years before that, and one of the officers actually had seen the some kind of craft also, like three different crafts, and so you had people that wholeheartedly believed them because well, one thing of who they were, Like I said, my grandmother, who she was, and people around there, you know, that lived in Kelly believed it because they heard what was going on that night. I mean, one of the farmers that lived in the back of my grandmother's place, you know, he heard a commotion going on, and he thought something had happened and maybe some of the animals had gotten out or something. So he was putting his boots on and grabbing a lantern. He was fixing head that direction, and then he started hearing the gunshots, and that's when he decided, Nope, nope, I'm not going to get shot out here. You trying to save a pig or something. So, you know, but yeah, the neighbors around there seeing things and heard things that night. You know, one of the neighborhood kids was outside with one of his other friends working on a bicycle and seeing the lights go across the sky that night. You know, there were several people that wholeheartedly believed it. My mama, who was married to her first husband, like I said, had seven kids. They lived in Kelly at the time. She said they lived down there in the holler. She said it was terrifying. She said, everybody around there that lived there was terrified of these things. Coming back because they believe what these people were saying. And you don't take eleven people are not going to be running in to the police station in the middle of the night with a crazy story, you know, like this something happened to that family. You know. I try to make people realize, whether it be extraterrestrial, whether it be paranormal, whatever it was, they had some kind of encounter with a being or beings that night they just did. Yeah, there's a I don't know how to say it, but like, basically, there's no way everyone could have been Again, I'm going off of what people try and discredit it with. There's no way everyone could have been group hallucinating. That makes no sense, right, There's no way that everyone had been drinking and they're all drunk and having the same exact visions. So because my grandmother did not allow drinking in her house around her three children, Nope, There's just. So many different little things that people will try and toss at at a discredit it. But at the same time, it's like it doesn't add up, and the only thing that does make sense is they actually experienced something. And then I mentioned earlier, people say, oh, there was owls out there. They were shooting at owls. I would hope people would know the difference between an owl and something else, because you'll. Say they would have been dead owls. Yeah, if they were shooting, they literally were shooting through the walls, they shot through the door, they shot through the ceiling, they would have been dead. So, yeah, something would have been hit. There would have been blood somewhere, there had been a dead, our dead whatever. Well, that twenty eight shotgun would kill more than one if there had been that, you know, And I heard the cat theory that it was cats. Well, it would have definitely killed a cat. But they weren't cats, they weren't out they weren't monkeys. There was a monkey theory. They weren't monkeys. They'd be dead too, you know. Yeah, none of it makes any sort of sense. So to me, it's always just been one of those things like what else could it have possibly been exactly? I know there's been there's been a show that came out within the last Omaha many years, those called Hellier, and they really focused on the whole goblin aspect. Well yeah, uh, Dana and Greg knew Kirk, yes, I know. Then they contacted me when all This started years before, well before they started Hellier. Because Greg was wanting to talk to me about the whole situation, because they had had somebody contact them. I think each Kentucky that they had little beans that were coming out at night and stealing stuff. They stole their dog, and there was caves on the land and the father would go back to the caves and find their stuff and the kids would. At first, the father and the mother was just letting it just slide because the kids were telling them that there was little bald children outside at night. They were coming up to their window, and they thought all that, you know, they're just telling little stories. But then stuff started disappearing and they kept telling them theirs little bald children. And so yeah, Greg got hold of me, you want to talk to me about this whole thing. Told me about this story and he asked me, he said, do you think that some of them could have been left and they lived in the caves. And you know, because they lived in the caves, they got pale, they lost their ear, big ears, And I said, I don't know, it's possible. And he asked me, he says, we are there caves in Kelly And so I did some call on around and yeah, there's cakes in Kelly. This is Kentucky. Kentucky ain't nothing but caves. My house is probably sitting on a cave. So you know, yeah, there's cakes and Kelly. So he was trying to put two and two together and think that they left some of them and they were living in the cave systems and they were going up, you know, traveling through the caves, maybe up to eastern Kentucky, and that they're here and around. And I said, well, you know, you know what, anything's possible. I don't doubt nothing. And uh so that's where that came from. The whole Hillary thing, that's where it came from. I haven't watched that show in several years, so I've been meaning to actually go back and do it. I've actually been thinking about trying to reach out to Greg and then maybe interview him at some point, but that might be something down the road. Yeah, we watched the first season, but we never didn't get to the second season. I think they're doing a new one at some point. Oh, I'm sure they are. I'm sure they are. But they're good people. Greg's really nice, Dane is really nice. I mean, we've gotten with them. They were trying to do some kind of other thing for this whole Hillier thing come up, and we met him down at Cape City one time trying to start. They were trying to do some kind of show or something I knew what it was, and wanting to use me as a thing to send in to try to get this started. And so we did this whole taping of this thing, and YadA, YadA, YadA. But I never didn't go through, I guess, but they've always got something going on. Well, we can probably wrap this one up. I do want to say that it has been a honor and pleasure to talking with you tonight. Well thank you saying here. If anyone out there listening has any questions for you or would like to reach out to you, is there a place they can send you an email or something that you would want them to do that? Sure, they can't email me at G Stiff at hotmail dot com, and that is G. S. T I T H at hotmail dot com. I will make sure to include that in the show notes for anyone that is interested. But Geraldine, it is, like I said, it's been an honor and a pleasure. This has been one of those stories that has always piqued my interest. So I'm definitely happy to have you on here and do this episode. Well, thank you, Like I said, thank you for having me. I really enjoyed it. Like I'll say, any day is a good day. We can talk about the killing green men and. The guys, well we can roll on out of here. So again, thanks thanks for talking with Midnight, and thanks for everyone out there listening. Good night, Thank you Brandon, good night, And that's. The show everyone. I rather hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of tenfoiltl dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. 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