Ep. 150: The Beckoning - An Interview with a Dark Entity

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw. The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host Brandon Wright. Night's episode. We're gonna be joined by my guest, Olivia James. Olivia reached out to me with some information regarding some of her past lives and some of the books she's written based on It deals with MK ultra and mind control and some other aspects that I was not expecting. Olivia believes that she is a reborn dark entity, basically a demon and a past life. She still communicates with them too. She also communicates with other beans and allows them to channel through her, so it's definitely an interesting topic. But before we bring Olivia on, if you would like to be a guest on Tenfoiltels, there's a couple of things you can do. You can send an email to tenfoil Tales podcast at gmail dot com, or you can go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to the contact section. Either way it works for me. It just makes her to reach out and we will get somebody schedule for a future episode. If you would like to help the podcast, you can share it around. 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So sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I'd like to take this time to welcome my guest tonight, Olivia James. Thanks for coming on here and talking to Timmy. Thank you for having me. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself. Sure. My name's Olivia James. I have two books. They're called the Gray Mouse Series and one is called Gray Mouse Sex Space and Mind Control, and my newest one is called Gray Mouse Purgatory and it delves into a lot about mk ultra, conspiracy, the paranormal and even occult. How did you come about writing stuff like this, Like was there something that kind of puts you on this pathway of yes. Yes. So as I went through my healing process, I found writing to be very therapeutic and to you know, be able to get out everything that I was experiencing and putting it into words has been like the best experience and also I'm able to give that information to other people. Do you have experiences from any of this or like, how does that fall into the The books are like the topics of. The books, the books are pretty much exactly what I was experiencing. I actually did a lot of work I've been learning. So I started off doing a lot of hypnotic regression with various hypno therapists. I found a really good one, and then I also started working on That's where some of my abilities came back to the forefront and I learned how to do asshol traveling by location remote viewing, which I call CYB remote viewing because it's just not I'm not doing a scientific process where I'm using coordinates, it's actually a psychic ability. And I also do something called hosting, and actually spirits and entities taught me that word. They told me what I was doing was hosting. So it's a new kind of fresh way to describe it. It's not exactly channeling because I'm not just using words through my mouth, I'm letting an entire being or person take over my body and speak. So there when they're in my body, I'm pretty much like you know, you know, warm dark place, just resting while they do it. And I don't feel any pain. I don't get any psychological or physical trauma. So I always say I don't recommend it to other people because it's specific to me. It's an ability I have, so I wouldn't recommend other people try to do this. Hosting. Yeah, I'm not really familiar with any of that type of stuff. I've talked with people that have had like these experiences and everything else, but I've never heard the term hosting before, so that's new to me. Yeah, it's a and I had never heard it before either. Before. Actually, a demon named Bachus told me that's what I do. So it was really interesting to get information, you know, specifically from an entity saying I'm what I am called as a host, a spirit host entity host. Well, if you want to start from the beginning, yes, how all this happened, I'm going to turn it over to you. We can just dive on into it. Sure, Okay. So I always like to start off with my introduction, and that is I always say that I had very interesting parents. So, going all the way back to childhood, my parents, they had they struggled a lot. But my father was recruited at a very young age, eighteen years old from a small town to do military intelligence on the German Russian border, so he spoke German and he was a code breaker and doing things like that. So it was really strange to have somebody, you know, some poor kid from a small town be recruited straight out of high school for that. And when he was done, he came back, you know, to from where he was living at and he got into some kind of rougher type activities. He started working for, you know, the what we call now cartels. So if anybody knows about, you know, the drug trafficking trade in the you know, sixties and seventies, there was a lot there's a lot of information about out there about you know, different agencies, three letter agencies that were involved in it, you know, pushing that along. So it wasn't just this one group, you know, being on top. There was a lot of different hands involved in drug trafficking, and he ended up being a major drug trafficker in the sixties and seventies, and he was doing things you know, with plane, with boat, car busts, but mainly by driving. So he was doing a lot of that work. My mom actually helped him do some of that work. You know, they were doing a lot of smuggling and money laundering, that kind of thing. But why that's important is because because of his ties to the different you know, coming out of military intelligence and being tied to you know, different agencies, he ended up becoming a risk because he got addicted to his own product. So these people started seeing him more as a risk rather than you know, a successful asset. So what they did was they were trying to scare them a little bit, and they were doing like these you know, kind of like semi raids, you know, they would you know, almost trying to scare them straight. And it didn't work. You know, he, you know how he just couldn't you know, get himself together. So on the second or third raid, they finally actually took him into custody, arrested them and everything, and there was this huge public trial. You know, it was always in the newspapers, and things back then, but you know, it looked like he was going to be going to prison for life for a really long time based on the amount of trafficking he was doing. So it was pretty serious situation. And at the end of the trial, they just dismissed everything, no matter how much evidence they had, and all they said was they had the wrong person, and they ended up giving him like a government job. So it's really strange to you know, have you know all that happened and at the end they're just like, oh, never mind, we have the wrong person. It was the wrong name or something. After this huge, long public trial, and I don't think anybody put two and two together based on that. So it was really interesting. But what I. Found out through my own research, through all my own you know, regressions and things like that, I found And I want to talk about how I can get information. I do, Like I said, I do things called hosting, so that means I can talk to not only just dead people, but people that are living. In terms, I do something where I describe it as talking to someone's brain, so it's just talking to different parts of them. I can talk to a different part of their personality, their spirit, their higher self, you know, like maybe like a heart center. There's so many different areas of a person to connect to, and you connect to different parts of their personality, sometimes even an alter in them. So it's so that's kind of how I was able to obtain, you know, expanded information about this is by because my father's dead. He's been dead for a long time. But that's how I got the information, is doing this work and hosting him myself, and actually he became he's almost like a guide to me now, Like if I go, if I try to go very deep and travel to the Auger realms, he's one of the first people that steps over. They're lying to greet me, you know, almost like keeping an eye on me. Now, because we were estranged pretty much for my whole life, we didn't you know, we didn't vibe on a lot of things. And now I know why is because a lot of it was his guilt, a lot of it was his own personality about you know, what had happened to me, And it was because in order to stay out of prison, he had to sign something over and that means saving his own, you know, behind by signing me over to them. So that's how I got introduced into mk ultra is from his cowardice of not wanting to go to prison. So he when he got out, when he got out of that and just started working, he tried to live a normal life. It was pretty normal. But I ended up getting taken to what I remember as a psychatric hospital. And I was only about I don't know, six or seven, and I think when I was a really young kid, I barely talked. I rarely ever talked. I was very quiet, very shy, very introverted that type. So at this particular and I don't know how I went to this place and they didn't remember. I've asked one of my living parents, you know, do they remember me ever leaving, you know, at night, or being gone? And all they said was it's possible. So that's not really a definitive answer at saying, you know, did you know where I was every day at six years old? They just said, she just said, it's possible that I was gone, and I don't, you know, there's no other way to figure that out. But from what I've discovered is that I was taken to a psychiatric hospital on the East coast, and this place is no longer open, but at the time it was this big, huge, massive place. They were pretty much self sustaining, you know, and we were like a very small wing, a separate wing because there was a very small program and it was me and another another child who was a boy. His name was Jacob, so it was just us too, And the main programmer was a female. And I always describe her because I can still see, you know, see her in my mind, the way she looked and she looked, and I didn't grow up around these types of feet people, you know, like my parents are drug drug traffickers, so to see somebody like her, she seemed very kind of like ethereal in a way. You know. She was always very dressed up and you know, her hair pinned up just perfectly, you know, the psychiatrist. So I always kind of looked looked at looked up to her as like a I don't know, like just like it was so weird to see somebody like that, you know, I hadn't had that in my experience as a child. But she also had two assistants and what we used to call them orderlies, but now you know, they have different terms for me nursing assistance in that but these two orderlies were doing a lot of the processes and practices that she wanted implemented. So what she wanted ultimately, her main goal in this program was to create something called singlepated dissociation between me and this other child. And what that would consist of is systematic abuse, torture, you know, psychological manipulation, things like that. They were doing that pretty regularly, and I want to say they were changing activities probably every fifteen to twenty minutes from what I can remember, and it was you know, once you know, they would start off maybe you know, making us watch certain images on a screen. They were you know, coming and doing a little bit of physical abuse, and then they would switch over and take us to do you know, some other things with the psychiatrists, like hypnosis. She was doing hypnosis on us very young. She was also using LSD and electroshock therapy. So they were doing all these different activities. There were some sexual activities. There was a lot of psychological you know, manipulation, manipulation, so us as children, we never knew what to expect. And that was the point. They were trying to break down the psyche and to really make you go back to a base state. Then it really does happen. When you're constantly being abused and tortured as a child, you kind of leave that behind. And we got to a point where we didn't ask for anything. We didn't ask to use the bathroom, we didn't ask for food. They would, you know, they would hold food away from us, and water and things like that. But that's what they wanted. That was their process to get you to a point where you never asked for anything. That's what they wanted. They wanted a blank slate. They wanted to create these kind of like open pockets in your brain, compartmentalize you so that they could rebuild you into what they wanted. And that was kind of what they wanted to do, is rebuild us. And they considered us successful because we were able to dissociate so well because of the trauma. Our you know, pretty much our spirit wanted to leave the body so in a way to escape the pain and the suffering. And that's what we did as children. And I remember, you know, the only time that me and this boy Jacob could be little kids is when we would dissociate and we would leave the body. We would see each other and we would you could if somebody could look into that realm, they could see us playing. You know, that was the only time when our bodies were laying being laying in a bad being electroshocked or things like that, we would be playing in our spirit form together. That was the only time we could be children. So what she was she was just making a lot of discoveries, I believe with hypnosis, and it was I think we were both going so deep. She was finding things she didn't know she could find. That's how I felt like she was finding things that she had no idea that we're going to be there, none whatsoever. And so she was doing a lot of these where she was looking for where she found past lives of mine. And that's kind of how I got referred out to other programs based on what she was finding within my own mind and my own spirit. She was finding things that, you know, other people wouldn't realize. So I was going to talk about some of the past lives I was able to discover and how and how it became that she decided to choose me for these other programs because of these past lives. So one of the main past life that she really focused on was in ancient times, I was something what they would call like a dark entity, something like that I called myself. I was more of a dark gin named Harlowin. So this particular gin, what she would do is, and this was ancient times, she would kind of stalk someone. She might find somebody you know, out you know, walking their sheep outside of a village or something, and you know, pretty much try to infiltrate their life and begin that oppression, that process for you know, almost breaking them down and you know, waiting for them to be so terrified and so stressed out that they would allow this being to take over their bodies. And that was what she wanted. And once she was allowed to take over their body, then she could begin her work of you know, destroying that person in whatever way she could, you know, mainly making them hurt themselves or someone else, you know, pretty much destroying their life, you know, everything they had. So that that's what something that a dark gin would do. And when she was a wee, I'm saying she but me. When I was a gin, I didn't really take a very physical form because physicality for entities and dark entities is very difficult to express. We much rather travel in our energetic form because it's very easy to travel. And when I was a gen, I like to travel through the blood like a virus, so I would be I don't know, I guess something more of a parasitic entity, because that's how I traveled. And that's how I was able to sustain myself for so many thousands of years, is by doing the same process, finding someone new every time once I had destroyed that person, and that's how I lived. That's how I fed, and I did that for a lot of years until I, you know, decided to try something else. But what was really interesting is this being. She didn't know that she was evil because she didn't know what evil meant. She just knew what she was. She just knew she was a gin and that her brothers were the gin. And she didn't think she was evil. She you know, when I speak to that part of myself, she thinks that she thought she was doing what these people wanted to. She thought that they called to her to take over them, and called to her to you know, take over their mind and body and soul. She thought that's what they wanted, so she thought she was doing something good. She had no idea that there was a concept of evil because she didn't consider herself evil. She just just was what she was kind of thing. So that was one of the main past lives that they wanted to kind of, I don't know, exploit in a way I had. There was another one that they also saw that it's almost like foreshadowing of what I would be able to do in the future. It was in Italy and I was I was what they would consider like a psychic medium in Italy, and it was like in the fourteen hundreds, and I was pretty well known in this particular village because you know, I thought I was out to help people. I wanted to help people connect with their past loved ones and things like that, and you know, and they would trade me for you know, vegetables and other goods they would give me if I was doing this for them. So I was pretty much a medium then. And the Inquisition came to that town and they they found out somebody told them, you know, who I was and what I was doing, and they ended up coming to you know, my house, and you know, they torn, they punched me in the face, you know, they attacked me, and they dragged me back to this dungeon where they continued to do like their particular torture. Now they hung me from a ceiling. So a lot of the torture, you know, par happened while I was being hung from a ceiling by my arms. And I remember my uncle. I had two children, and my husband had passed a long time before that, you know, particular incident. But my uncle had taken my two children and he brought him to this dungeon one day and there was a really small, small little opening in the dungeon where they could see me, and he wanted it just to see me one last time. But I wish he wouldn't have done that, because I was like almost on the verge of death and it was probably nightmarish for these two kids to even see me like this. So I thought that, you know, we all think that that everybody's being burned at the stake, but I actually died from dehydration and starvation, you know, and I really didn't have any feeling left in my arms at that point, and I was just I was so angry. I remember that anger, that feeling of you know, wanting something bad to happen to all these people and what they did and it really I really had that anger for men in that life, and you know, I reached out, you know, I called out to everything that could help me anything, and I feel like I attached, you know, some darkness to me then, because I wanted anything that would answer, you know, to come and you know, take care of these people who had done this to me and other women there. But and then there was one other life that it was about the I want to say, late seventeen hundreds, early eighteen hundreds, and I was a male in that life, and I had been on my own for a really long time. My parents had died young, and I had almost lived like as a street child, and I had been, you know, traveling village to village for a long time. And as I grew into adulthood, I found somebody that I could like, a traveling companion that had the same I don't know, desires inside them. We were able to connect on that way, and what we would be called, I guess we would be called I don't know. We would find somebody, you know, in these villages as we traveled, we would find some woman alone and attack her, you know, and she would meet her end, and you know, we would just leave her out in the fields or whatever, and we would do that. We just did that. Every time we went to a new village or a new city. We would do the same thing over and over. It was like there was something just dark inside us, and we would do that all the time. But there was this one time we went to a new village and I think we had become very careless and very arrogant in what we were doing. So we had just found someone, you know, and a lot of in those times, a lot of people, a lot of women were out just you know, taking care of the fields and doing work outside. So we found someone that was on her own, and we attacked her and left her. And the villagers found out. And we had been to a local pub, just drinking and laughing and giggling and all that kind of stuff, and they knew it had to be us because we were the only new people in the town and there hadn't been anything happening like that forever, so they pretty much assumed it was us. And we had to run, and we ran, and we were hiding in this barn and we thought we'd be safe there, but no, they found us. They locked us in and they set the barn on fire. I only remember at the last minute, I was trying to crawl up, you know, climb up higher into the rafters to get away from the fire. But obviously we've burned alive, and we deserved it. We deserved that treatment in that life. And I had one more life that I thought was important too, and just because the fact that it contributed to like kind of like my mindset. And it was and I don't know the timeframe of it. It was kind of ancient, but it was in Egypt. It looked like Egypt anyway. I don't know the exact name of it. I don't think we called it Egypt then. And I know I was a male and I was what would be considered like a slave. And everybody there was hundreds of people just moving sand, and none of us looked at each other. We were like, I don't know what the word would be, like automatons or something. We all just had this blank stare and we all just kept walking, moving sand. All of us. Nobody talked, nobody interacted, nothing. It was just all work. And if you could if I could look and see, you know, on there's this huge being standing over and everyone and it was just one of them, and he would look like what we consider, you know, somebody that looked like Anubis. So I called them the dog people, though I didn't have a word for them. And we thought that he had killed our God because our God was a crocodile. And so we were pretty much infiltrated and taken over because we thought he killed our God because our God, our present God, was a crocodile. And he just made us constantly work. And you can imagine how strong these beings are if one of these could command, you know, hundreds, almost thousands of people just to do work, just from one being. And he carried like a staff that had power. And I remember I was in a regression viewing this scene with the hypnotherapist, and what was crazy is that there was no time. There was no time. The limits of time had fallen away when you get into these different realms and these different higher states of consciousness. So I was there seeing him talking to him, and he saw me, and the only thing he said when he spoke, because he said, get back to work, that's it. And he could see me in present time, laying in the bed, you know, talking about this and doing this and all he said was get back to work. So these lives are what kind of got me, I guess referred to another program. So the psychiatrist at this hospital, like I said, I was only like six or seven. She referred me out to this gentleman, an older gentleman. So I went to his office and he had a very like neutral toned office. I didn't it did to me. It didn't look like a doctor's office. That's why it was kind of strange to be there. And when I got there, it was a very elderly gentleman, very rail looking. I don't know, maybe eighties, early nineties, I couldn't tell. And he was balding, and he had these really small wire rimed glasses on. And you know, his name was doctor Green. And I don't know for sure. I only know him as doctor Green, But a lot of people say that doctor Green was an alternate name for what they consider somebody named Mangela, And I don't know that. I only remember what he looked like and that he was called doctor Green. So he had two people there and they were twins, and he wanted them to examine me because I had been referred to him as kind of like a special case. So he had these two twins and they were adults, and they were kind of like, I don't know, very light, pale colored amst like an albino condition. And so what they were doing in this examination, they weren't doctors, but they were like opening my eyes, looking in my ears, and they finally were like looking in my mouth. You know. They made me open my mouth and say ah, you know, and I did everything they said, and they when they looked at my mouth, they turned to doctor Green and they said, yes, we found it. We can see the thing inside her. So but what they were wrong about is that they thought they saw kind of like I don't know, I guess, an attachment and that was something that this project was trying to harness because there's a lot of power in the dark side, and they thought that I was possessed in a way. They were trying to target, you know, possessed children people to try to you know, almost capture that strength of like these entities that were trying to take over other people. And they called it Project Traveler. So that's what he was doing, is trying to capture that, you know, learn about that make it scientific in a way. But they were wrong, because they thought it was something they could remove from me maybe or control, and they couldn't because whatever they were seeing inside me, they were seeing my old, dark gin self. And that's not something I can erase because it's just part of me at my cell your level. I can't erase past lives. I can't do anything like that. I can't eliminate it. So they were kind of, you know, off, And I didn't feel harmed by doctor Green. I want to say that, like you know, people, you know, he has this crazy reputation, but he didn't harm me. But let me tell you, when being around him, you do feel very much on edge. And I always describe it like saying he was very old and very frail. But I felt when I was around him, I felt like I was in a cage with the tiger, Like just that feeling of dread, like something he's not to be messed with type. So that was part of my upbringing and how I got into the MK Ultra and how they found some of these you know, ability in me or you know what they could you know, foster in me as a and return me myself almost to like a previous you know state in a way you know, to bring these old abilities back out into me. And I really didn't know I could do all this stuff until you know, just about I think about four years ago or maybe five years ago. Now I just started to have you know, these kind of things returning, you know, to my life and knowing that I can. Do And I was actually getting ready to ask you when did you start discovering this? So, yeah, so I started discovering it. I was having a lot of and I, like I said, I didn't know I could do these things. And you know me, I've I'm not I don't consider myself brave. You know, my whole life, I've been terrified of you know, the dark, paranormal, occult, all of that stuff. It was very scary to me. I just wasn't somebody that was brave enough to kind of face that. And now I kind of con see because of the sum of the stuff that happened to me as a kid, and that had I had suppressed for so long, and you know, just being you know, anybody, if you said, you know, by tell people you know, you know, I can actually let a demon take over my body. You know, how would that? How does that sound? And you know it sounds insane and sounds like who would do that, you know, who would be brave enough to do that. I definitely wasn't somebody that thought I could do that. So I was having from what Okay, So this ties into part of the other part of it. I had gotten this job and it was about I think about six years ago, now, five or six years ago. I had gotten a new job and it was a professional kind of like office job, human resources type, and I was just having constant like anxiety and panic attacks with this job. Nothing, nothing about it could get me to calm down, and I thought there was something wrong with me. I had no clue what was wrong with me. But every every day was just you know, crying, there's tears, and it's just not an environment where I should be doing that. And I just knew something was wrong with me. And I felt like kind of like this push, like something was pushing me to try this. And I had never tried it before. I'd never thought about hypnosis or hypnotic regression, but I've just felt like something was like kind of behind me, you know, kind of cheering me on to try this, and so I did, and I had to do it. Like in one weekend, I had to find somebody literally I got to do it now kind of thing. And it was really strange to be able to find somebody that would do it, like within you know, a day of asking them. So when I ended up doing this, it was crazy that I ended up going under for almost six hours and I didn't even know that I could even go that deep, you know. And Augu was saying the most outrageous things, you know, stuff that I would never you know, expect myself to say never, you know. And there was demon speaking through me, aliens, animals, you know, past lives, ghosts, you know, discarnates like anything you can think of, was like just rushing to talk through me. And I was literally under hypnosis for almost six hours, and it when I came out of it, I just was mind blown, like I can't believe it. You know, I can't believe I said all this stuff. You know. It was really strange to me, so I tried to That's when I started kind of looking into kind of a lot of the stuff. I said, like, you know, where did this come from? You know. I was starting to talk about you know, you know, memory suppression technology. I was talking like that in it, you know, in this session, like you know, very formal and very like the words were coming out, and it was really strange how my voice changes throughout the entire six hours, you know, with different yes, different people took over my voice changes, you know. It was so interesting. So that's kind of how I got started doing the hypnosis and then I and I think this kind of validates not just me and my story, but other hypnotherapists. I used probably like five or six people at least by now almost seven people to make I want them to you know, be validated and for people to know that nobody is coaching me to say things. I have everything recorded, I have everything transcript you know, so there was nobody coaching me. I pretty much all they have to do is count me down and watch me. And I pretty much speak on my own the whole time because it's always something trying to enter my body and you know talk. And the first people that shove everybody out of line is demonic entities because and I'm just saying that. Everybody gets mad when I say this, but I say it's because they consider themselves gods. I'm not saying I consider them gods. They consider themselves that and you know, because I was a gin. Yes, Gin do consider themselves god. That's just how they talk. I'm not saying it's true or not true. That's just the way they speak. They consider themselves like trickster gods. So you know, that's why they push everyone to the side. And you know, sometimes if I go under hypnosis or start even get into a meditative state, you know, the demonic entity to these other first ones to kind of show up. And they told me it's because when I start to you know, you know, shift into a different state of consciousness. And I start to do this because because I go so deep that it's like they're in complete darkness and they see like this light starting to shine and then they know it's me and they kind of like rush, So that kind of is how they know it's me. And then they it's almost like having like this big line of people waiting to speak in whoever you know, who gets to be in the front of the line, it's usually them because you know, they're kind of like the tough guys in the area, so they get the chance to speak first. And usually when they speak, I let them just say what they need to say and it doesn't scare me because it's so weird to say that. It doesn't scare me because you know, some of the stuff they say is very could be terrifying to other people. Just me talking about it, it scares other people. So I totally understand if people get afraid of it. I understand. You imagine how I felt when I started doing it. You know, I didn't know I could do this kind of thing. That was it would never be something that I would pursue because I was terrified of it. But now that I've gotten so much information from all different types of entities and letting them speak and say stuff that you know, we would never know if they didn't. If I wasn't allowing them to say this through me, we would never have this information because I don't think anybody has the balls to do it. You know, it's a little bit scary for any everybody. So I have a question before we could go. So, when these things are speaking, I want you to speak for them. How do you know what they're saying is truthful? I guess because I don't judge it by truth. I let them just speak plainly. I don't say they're lying or not lying, because then I could say that about any being that came forward, you know, my father or anybody else. And when when I'm doing this, I'm in my highest state of consciousness. That's what allows me to do this, So there's no tricking me. There's no fooling me. I never feel fooled or tricked like that because it's a it's my most highest self, you know, my strong the strongest part of me is doing this. So and it's not just darker entities that I've been able to do this with. I've I've been able to let very you know, what do you call it. I don't want to say famous. You know, big time religious figures speak spoke through me, and that was amazing. I let source speak through me. That was probably my favorite thing that I've ever done, is that. And you know, very much energy filled. So you know, I don't want people to think that I'm just like calling demons. I'm calling I'm allowing myself to be open to anything to get information for other people to come and speak through me. So do people try to say deceitful things? You know, the ones that I find to be most deceitful are humans, which is really interesting. The people that have tried to be most deceitful and try to talk the most crap and you know, really try to you know, harm is other humans that I've let you know, that I've tried to connect with and kind of speak to, Like handlers. There's us. There's a big group of handlers that I've been able to get information from about how and they really look really interesting because when I saw them, they're these are people sitting behind computers. It's that term the guy behind the chair. You know, that guy that's in the chair. That's them. They're not like as scary as we think, you know, because they're doing all this horrible stuff to people. You know, they're targeting people and doing this and monitoring people. But there really are these you know, kind of geeks behind the computers because I've seen them. I've walked up right behind them in you know, an astral state and I've seen what they're typing and everything. These are people on computers. So as scary as we thought they were, they're just nerds behind a computer. I always crack up when someone says nerd. It's still just funny. Do you want me to keep going? Yeah? You can keep going, Okay, so I got taken into Like I said, I got taken in the program, and they were doing a lot of different experiments, you know, seeing what they could accomplish with that, and a lot of they well, one of the experiences with experiments were they had me sit in this sensory deprivation but it wasn't water or anything. It was just a dark room. They had me in a dark room. They had me, you know, tied to a chair like a regular chair, and there was no light anything in there. They didn't give me any food, and they hooked me up to an IV and they wanted me to do this hosting thing. So you know, literally they would all they have to do is count me down and put me in a trance. And you know, at then, you know, obviously, you know a lot of people would find that difficult to think of, Like you just they're just counting you down in your entrance. Yes, because I can do it now and that's how I do it now. So it's basically a counting measure and I'm I can travel. So I was doing that as a child, and they wanted me to host these demonic entities and they were trying to see if they could make measurements out of it, you know, measurements of the body systems, you know, brand wave scans, you know, whatever was happening to my body. They wanted to see how that would be affected by having these entities within my body. And they wouldn't. They weren't feeding me, they you know, they weren't. There was no hugs, no, you know, I'm just a little kid and they're you know, treating me like this. And I found it very conflicting that these humans at this place were torturing me, you know, all different types of ways, and it was entities that were keeping me alive. They were the ones that were sustaining me while I was in the chair because I didn't need to eat while they were you know, taking over my body. And I thought, I still find that kind of strange because I'm supposed to hate them and you know, think they're evil and all that. But they were the ones keeping me alive while humans were torturing me. So you can see that can be conflicting to any child. You know, it was probably and it's still conflicting to me a little bit, just to think, you know, I'm supposed to hate all these people and hate all these beings, but it was actually humans that you know, started this whole process. So I was in a couple of those programs for a while. They were doing experiments, you know, and as a child, they had us doing kind of I don't want to talk there's more gory details in the book, you know, I guess I don't have to go into too much of that. What we call like monarch training. It's they sexualized children in a certain way to do various jobs. There's more in the book about that. I don't have to talk about it too much here, but there was some of that going on. And when I was thirteen, they decided to kind of switch gears, and from the abilities that had kind of arisen in me, they decided that I would get more training in a different place, and they thought that I would be good for something else, and that was like personality profiling. So from what I remember, I was with this I don't know, kind of like an older gentleman, and he was kind of dressed up in a suit and he had like a hat on. And I was thirteen, but I looked like I was nine. I was very small, and I looked very young. I didn't look like a thirteen year old. So he took me with him, and it looked like we had gotten on a train or a subway or something like that. I didn't ask questions. You're not allowed to ask questions, so I didn't. And wherever he took me, we ended up on the Moon. And I know it sounds crazy, but there are bases on both the Moon and Mars. And on this base, there's an underground base and I can't remember the level. I'm not sure if it was four level four underground. But what they wanted me to do was participate in a training class called psionics, and I remember the teacher there, and I remember having a really hard time in this class because I was the only kid and the rest of it was adults, and you know, their abilities weren't like I was used to. They had other abilities, like I just didn't understand what they were going to do with them. Like one gentleman he had an ability where he could produce exist moisture in the body, which I thought that sounded kind of weird, but it looked like it was just leaking from his fingers. But I don't know how what they were going to do with that. And then there was other people that are telepaths, you know, energy readers, you know things like that. And like I said, my teacher, she was young. She was younger to me. She looked young, but she acted way much older. She looked like she was in her twenties, but she acted like she was in her sixties or something like. That's the you know, that's the feeling I get from her. It's more like a sixty year old. But she was very stern with me, and at the time I didn't take it well. But now I can see that she was trying to help me stay alive. And she, you know, she always I remember the one phrase she always told me. She always said one look, one word. She said, I have to be able to read the room and read each person with just one look or one word. Because she knew that if I was going to be doing this work, I had to be quick. I had to be thorough because some of it was going to be used in dangerous situations like corporate espinach and things like that. I had to be as fast as I could be. You know, you have to walk in a room, shake one person's hand, and know if they're a threat or not. That's how detail do you have to be with personality profiling. So I got trained there for about I think, I want to say six months or so, and I always remember that there was a poster on the wall in our classroom. We had one classroom, and it looked like there was no windows obviously because it was underground, but it looked like an old college classroom. And like I said that, I was the only kid there, but I remember on the wall there was a poster for a general named General Land and he was going to be retiring after twenty years of service. So it was really really weird that I always remember that seeing that one poster on the wall. And you know, it was class every day and then you would just go back to your dorm, you know, sleep, wake up, go to class constantly. So they really couldn't use me for personality profiling until I was older. And so when I was older, I got into a lot of what and all of these activities are forced. I just want people to know none of these are by choice or consent. It's all forced consent and forced by threat. So if you don't do what they say, you're going to be either dead or harmed or someone you know is so you have to continue doing all these processes and all these jobs and missions that they want you to do no matter what. So they had us doing up until like kind of like my late teens and early twenties. They had us doing like I guess we call I call it beta tracking work, and it's a pretty much what some people would consider like black widow training or something, or programming. That's how they would program some of our altars. I forgot to talk about that when I was in the psychiatric hospital. They ended up creating one hundred and eighteen altars inside me, which that means there's one hundred and eighteen different personalities in which there were about six of the front altars that were the main altars that were doing the portions of most of the work, and the rest were probably like shifting altars. So these are some of the altars that were programmed to do these various jobs. There was an altar that did personality profiling. There was alter that was a monarch alter that was more sexualized. There was an alter that did beta tracking and she mixed multi mixed that with you know, the personality profile. And then there was a gray mouse alter, and that gray mouse alter is the one that did a lot of the corporate espionage work and trying to get in and out of buildings very quickly, that kind of thing. So after I was doing beta tracking work, like I explained it was, this is something where you're infiltrating. You have a mark. They give you a job and that we call people the mark. If there's a specific person, you have to kind of infiltrate their lives and pretty much you're recording. One of my alters has a photographic memory, so if I'm all I have to do is be around this person, and it's recording in my mind the things that I see, the things that I hear. So if somebody and sometimes I won't know the information because it's so far deep in my mind. But if someone were to put me under hypnosis, they could go in there, you know, and use a code or something like that to get that information. That's that's how they hide information nowadays. Just like thinking about some of these people that are doing I don't know, different acts. Let's just say they're doing things at harm quite a few people in our country, and then you see them on the news and they look like they're like in shock, like they had no idea what was going on, or they don't know why they did certain things. Sometimes you're programmed to do certain things and you won't remember because that information is so far deep in your mind. It would take like something like hypnosis or code you know, a code breaking event to try to you know, split that open to get that information. And they do that purposely for you know, things like interrogation. So if somebody were to do something bad, if they get caught, they could never say who told them to do this, how it happened, how it got started, they would not even know. It would just be shut off way back deep into an altar. So that becomes how they you know, use different people as asked and things like that. So I had been doing I was doing beta tracking work for quite a while and getting involved with different people like I started relationships when they told me to. I ended them when they told me to. You know, I did whatever they said basically. And I was working for a couple of different agencies that were kind of Some of these agencies they consider themselves, you know, good white hats or alliance, but in my experience, they're not. They're not good people. And how can you be if you're using abused children, you're recruiting them, and you're forcing them to do work for you, and dangerous work, you know, and bad things. That's not anything good. None of us to me. I don't consider any of us that did that kind of stuff. We're not heroes, you know, they're they're making us do bad things, you know, or else were hurt. So after I got I went through that for a long time. I ended up getting promotion and they said it was motion for a job well done. They considered me a perfect almost perfect asset because I did everything they said. I'd never questioned them. I did. That's how we were trained to do everything they said. And so they ended up giving me a job on Mars. And this job on Mars was for personality profiling. I was gonna be working in the corporate sector doing human resources work. And so this particular base that I was on it was called Mercreery Base and it was located in the South Canal region of Mars, and I was kind of when I first went in, I was in Scout Class entry level and I got taken into Ground Force Battalion for Mars Defense Force MDF, and my particular division was called mariner so and I even have my service number. So in this particular division, like I said, I was underground first Battalion, but I was in the corporate sector. So I would have people come into my office, you know, all incoming recruits would stop with They would start with me, you know, after they were doing their intake and everything, because I was going to be the person that would get them assigned to different various jobs. And I really didn't work with the super soldier population anything like that. Those were people that were sent to special sector. Like I didn't really deal with special sector. If somebody came into my office that I felt needed to be referred out, I would definitely make a referral to something called like a special sector where they could be evaluated and things for different jobs. Because mainly the jobs that I was putting placing people in these particular jobs is they would be like mining, you know, drilling, you know water treatment, waste treatment, you know, agriculture. They even had an entertainment division, So we were putting people in those various jobs. So they were coming to my office. I would spend probably sometimes an up to an hour with them, and I would ask them like a battery of questions, but the questions just weren't To get the answers, I had to use my profiling ability, and so I was basically reading their energy by you know, you know, just the way their eyes look, their skin, their different body language, you know, facial expressions. It was so much tied into you know, determining, you know, where that we'd be best placed and where they'd be able to do the best work. And I'm sure they weren't thinking that they were going to come here. And so a lot of these they used to only recruit out of you know, force and things like that, but now there's a lot of voluntary recruits currently with the military, and they say they're going you know, overseas and things, but they're not. They're actually going to Mars. So there's most mainly voluntary recruits. Now they're not particularly having to kidnap you know, children like they used to, but they there are some, but now there's a lot more voluntary recruits. So, like I said, I would take them into my office and then I would make my recommendations and I would send them to the general. And the general I worked under was General Asher, and he had an office kind of close to mine and it was all glass and he had a secretary that set out the front. But when I remember this place, I I don't people think that if you're talking about Mars, you're thinking I was like fighting aliens and things like that. No, I don't remember. I only remember being in this one area and doing the same job every day. They wanted me to stay isolated, you know, they didn't want me to connect with a lot of people because they felt like that it would skew kind of my results, you know, based on my ability. They wanted it, you know, they wanted me to stay the same, and I ended up actually being demoted because I couldn't stay the same. I was starting to have like lead through memories kind of like things. My programming was breaking down, and it mirrored that in my in my you know, earth life here. Like when I said I about six years ago, I had a job where I was having anxiety. It was because I was having memories of a similar job somewhere else, and that's how it kind of bled through and how I started to recover a lot of the memories is because of that job. Having a similar job. That's crazy. So I have some more questions before you yeah, sure. So for me, I've talked to several different people about different types of things like this, but I always wondered, and I know I get asked questions about because a lot of people don't believe it, just because that's what it comes with the territory of this. But when you say you're working on Mars, I've had other people say they've been in secret space programs and everything. Can you explain how that actually works to like the average person, Like, is it your consciousness that they're taking and moving off? So in a different reality, Like, how does all that actually work for me? I remember my body being there. I remember being physically there. I don't remember a clone doing that work. I don't remember it, but I'm not And I do remember when they did do the age regression to put us back. It was chemicals. It wasn't like aliens, you know, doing something to our bodies. It was like a chemical process. And what is really strange is I remember because I was since I was like in that corporate sector. I remember a huge stack of files that everybody signed when they we called it retirement. When they left the program and they went back, they just called it retirement. They didn't know. They didn't know all the details, even though I knew a lot of it because I was in human resources. I knew more than you know a lot of the other people because I was getting them to sign forms. That was my job. They had to sign forms before they left to retirement, and some of those forms were saying that they agreed to and especially even me, I signed this form saying that I was coded for re entry. That means when I was returned, they could use me at any time because I had signed for it. So it's a double you giving like a double consent without even knowing what you're doing. You know, imagine you go there and you're regressed and they already have stuff on file saying that you agreed to be used at any time once you returned. It's really and they do use people if they need somebody, depending on your location, depending on you know, your certain current situation, they will use you. And all they have to do is reactivate a certain part of your brain or an altar through various ways in order to use that piece of you. They can do that. And I remember seeing all the forms, and nobody said no to the forms because you weren't allowed to anyways. There was no saying no, I don't feel like signing this. That's not that even in the current military, you can't say no, no thank you. There's I've never heard of anybody saying that you can say no thank you to that. So everybody signed these. Forms forms, and there almost seems reminiscent to something I've heard before. Like they called the twenty in back, Yeah. It is, and that's how long I was there, is about twenty years. And then when I had the age regression, like I said, they called it retirement. They didn't say you're being age regressed and sent back home. They don't say that. They say, you know, you're finished with your term of service. You're being retired. And that's what we that's how we knew it as retirement. And like I said, there's forms signed. You even signed to be you consent to be monitored and controlled your entire life. You literally consent to that, and you consent to saying I will do all this, you know, and if I don't do it correctly, I can be And they said you will result in termination. But termination doesn't mean lose your job. Termination means real termination. We signed that, we consent to it. And it's crazy that we and what I know is these forms from what I know, they hold up in all courts. So that's earthly courts, galactic all of it. You can you can put this, these forms that they have, you can put them up in any court and they say they'll stand up. They'll stand in any court. If you were physically gone for twenty years, how does that explain to people that know who you are, like where you've been at and everything. How does that work? Because they return you to a pre a pre destined state. So if I was gone, they'll just return me to that same day that they took me. That's where it gets confusing, actause it's like time control, manipulation and everything. And when you're able to control time and send people through an out of time, it's like, but. We all can control time, you know, I myself, You even I control time when I'm going under hypnosis and astral traveling and going in other states of consciousness and reaching other places and other realms. That's insane to me that I can do that. That's controlling time. It just one person in her bed doing that. So if I can do that, imagine what these people with all the money, all the power, all the connections and all the technology they want can do. Imagine what they can do if I can do that just by laying in my bed. That's the one thing like I struggle with is the whole aspect of time and coming in and out of time. Like for me, I just feel like if we're able to control time I don't know why we're secretive about it at this point. I understand like why they they're secretive until they extent, but like, I don't see why we're doing the things we're doing because at this point they're basically being god like. From what I know, it's power and conquest rules, and it's all these different factions fighting for power and conquest, and we, you know, we're just like kind of like the people you know that are being affected by their wars. You know, they're fighting each other for power and we're just being affected by it. Wouldn't it create a paradox though, that at one point they get send someone back in time and wipe out somebody else that was doing something else, So therefore it's like a butterfly effect. I'm not quite sure. I don't remember every doing any type of time travel or anything like that. Like I said, I was used for very practical reasons in my opinion, practical reasons like you know, intelligence work, corporate espionage, human resources, corporate work. So it's very different from other people talking about doing twenty and backs when they're fighting, you know, being in this huge military groups and fighting aliens and stuff. I didn't do that, so it's it's different for me to think about, you know, did I see a lot of weird things? Of course? Did I see people? You know, did I make people sign you know, documents for augments and things like that. Of course I had to do that. They did sign that because I worked on a medical Statellite station for a while and I was kind of like what they consider like a medical social worker. So if there was somebody that was assign there to have like something augmented in their body or something, I had to you know, kind of convince them to sign the papers. Because consent is very big in these programs, and people don't believe that, but it was. We had people sign everything because if you're consent, if you're forced to consent, they can always fall back on that, well, you sign this paper, and you know that's a problem. We have here on Earth people signing things and you don't know what you're signing a lot of the time. Some have you ever seen those long documents that somebody sets in front of you and all you do is switch to the end and sign it just so you don't have to read it all. You know, that's a similar thing that they're doing. And like I said, I don't I never saw time travel. I never participated in that. But just from my own personal experience what I can do now, I can see how easily time can be manipulated. If I can see into other places that other people can't see. How is that? You know? How am I able to do that? You know? And they're imagine what they can do? You know? Yeah, oh, we can keep on going into it. That's just something that always every time I talk with someone about this, like when it comes to the concept of time, I always just feel like, if they're able to control time, at one point, some one's going to go back in time, which would be maybe that's why we have mendelo effects. I don't know, but what. And I and I go back in time like and if I'm under hypnosis, it is a form of time travel. If I'm able to go back and see myself in the eighteen hundreds, and I'm not just you know, looking at it. I'm interacting with that time period. I'm able to sometimes even speak with those you know, beings, those people, whatever, how is? You know? To me, it blows my mind to think when I do that stuff. It's like, isn't this kind of like time travel? But you know, I don't really call it that. I always say that I'm traversing the outer realms. That's my particular words I use for I say traversing the outer realms because I don't know how to describe it, and I necessarily wouldn't call it anything like time travel. But in a way it's similar. You know, if you're able to go somewhere, then you know it pretty much is what I'm doing. Mm hmm, okay, well you can. I got from where we left. So that I ended up doing that human resources work for a long time, and I ended up getting demoted because I was having breakthrough memories and kind of like bleed through memories, and it really messed me up. I couldn't do the work I was doing. I was acting very erratic, very emotional, unstable, and in these particular positions on these different in these programs, you're not allowed to have emotion. None of us really had real emotions. We didn't know emotion was. And from what I know now, I was probably depressed, but we didn't have a word for it. There was no option to be depressed. So I didn't really know what was wrong with me. And they, I guess, they must have figured that my programming was breaking down or something, so they demoted me, and I was doing crazy things like I was trying to search my the general that I worked for, I was trying to search his office looking through his drawers, just because I knew something was wrong and I just couldn't figure out what it was. But I knew same thing in this when I'm my previous, this current life. I knew something was wrong, and something pushed me to try to find out. It was the same. It was like mirroring each other, like bleed through. It really was a bleed through. So I ended up getting demoted, and I ended up working just for the as a ship liaison when the ships would come in with cargo and things like that, and just signing off on ships. And I ended up getting retired after twenty years and returned. But like I said, codd for re entry. So the last time I remember being, you know, physically taken in this you know, current life is I think I was in my mid thirties and I was at home and I was, you know, just having a normal day. I was getting ready to go to sleep, and I remember I I don't know what happened, but I opened my eyes and I woke up and I was like in the basement of this huge house. It was huge, massive house. It was like this huge mansion, and you just know what to do. We wake up and your brain knows what to do. I woke up and I knew I had to get two kids out of the house. And when I looked down at my body, I had on basketball shorts and a taint top. I had no shoes on, so that's not really ideal for a job. And these two children, they weren't dressed properly either, and they had no shoes either. So I had to get two children out with no weapons, not knowing really what I'm doing. It was very stressful. So I took the kids with me, and you know, I just told follow me, and I was going through all these different rooms, and I really it was like a room, just a long hallway of bedrooms. So I wasn't really finding anything that would be a viable kind of weapon. I mean, it was just nothing that I could use. And I finally looked and I found an office. And in the office of this it looked like a man's office. He had like a retirement gift and it was like a knife with I don't know, I don't know, I don't really know what this is, but a knife with all these different attachments on it. So it looked like a retirement gift cause it said something, you know, kind of like on the outside. So I grabbed that and we had to search this whole house. This house so huge, I had a basketball coordinate. So finally we were able to find like what I thought, what I think is thought was the garage door. And so I opened the garage door, and as soon as I opened it, I saw there was a woman there, and she so detailed about seeing her. I can still see, you know, the lines in her face, and even now I can even think about it, I can see the lines in her face and how the makeup was settling in the lines. That's how detailed the memory was. That's how detailed it gets. Sometimes when you have these memory pulled from your subconscious, that's how detail it is. So I saw her and she was immediately going to go for her keys and her phone and everything, and she had groceries in her hand, and she tried, she dropped everything and went for it, and I just had to put the knife to her throat so she couldn't have a chance, and I just, you know, give me your keys kind of thing. And she didn't fight me, and she was bigger than me, she didn't she didn't fight me. She didn't say a word. She handed the keys over and I took the kids and I it was this black SUV and I just left and I don't know what happened after that. I know I was tasked to bring it back to the people who started the job. And that was it. And that was when I physically remember being taken. Like when I woke up, I snapped back my eyes back open, and I was back at home on the couch and I was wearing different clothes, and I opened my eyes and I definitely remembered the whole experience, But at that time I thought I was probably going nuts. Because there's how can I remember this? There's not is not possible. So at that time I thought I was going a little bit crazy. So that's kind of how some of the things got you know, how I got introduced into this whole idea of living kind of like a different life and learning about my abilities, learning about mk ultra and the what I'm What was so interesting is a lot of the information about my parents it's definitely verifiable if somebody were to look it up. It's it's there to find. So it's not like, you know, a lot of my story isn't able to be validated. It is so And like I said, I record everything I do when I'm doing hypnotic regressions. It's all recorded. I have witnesses to all the things I said and all the things that's happened during you know, hypnotic regression and things like that. So I mean, do you want me to talk about things like what happened in regressions or what kind of direction you want me to go into. I'm cool with whatever you want to talk about. But I did have some questions regarding like when you do these things you said you've interacted with different types of beans, and everything. There are some of the ones that you've interacted with. Do you want names of people or I don't. Really need the names, but I'm just I'm more curious like it, what's more. Like names of like demons, demons, demonic names. That's kind of where I'm I'm a little taboo about that. So I don't really want to name drop them, just because some of the listeners that I do have, I don't gotcha. I don't want them freaking out if they're hearing names, because in some forms of religion, if you say their names, that's not really So I don't want to make it too taboo. Okay, not too much of the occult. Okay, we can talk about the occult. I just don't want to name drop. Them, okay. So, and that's a good point because when I first started doing this, and I started to hear a word in my head and it was playing in triple like I was hearing the same word and they said it three times over and over in my head, and I had no idea where that came from, and I didn't know what it meant until I looked up and I saw and I was like, oh, this is figures of the stuff I can do. This is somebody trying to reach out to me and tell me what their name is. So that's a good point when you're talking about names, you know, because that's how they reach out to you in a way. In this particular one, he that's how he reached out to me is by saying this name three times, saying his name three times in my head, and that's his particular call or signal. So what I was gonna say is that they used they were starting to There's a particular agency called Monarch Solutions, and they have like a catalog of services and I had to get forced to work for them for a while. And what they're doing is they're kind of contracting people out that can do things like I can do, like hosting. They're doing it for kind of like what I consider like elites or family groups. And some of these families they've been doing this process since hundreds of years. And there was a particular family that they wanted me to work for for a weekend. And these people they wanted me to do something what is hosting their familiar spirit or they call it a damon. They don't say demon, they say damon. So how they do this is they'll they'll pay this company to have me come there for a week. And I didn't get treated badly, but I knew what they wanted me to do. They wanted me to host you know, a spirit or an entity for them in this particular entity they had met in like the fifteen hundreds. It's something that had been brought down through the generations. And in the beginning they thought that this, you know, being connected to this entity is how they stayed rich and powerful, how they kept all their resources to themselves. But this entity told me that that's total lies. They have that stuff because they're born into it. He said that he has no bearing on how they maintain their riches, like he doesn't know why they think that. So they would have me, and sometimes there was another person with me, they would have us, you know, kind of you know, laid down. They start doing their thing. And it's not always like elaborate rituals or anything like that, because it's not needed for people to host. You don't when people think that they're doing like all this high magic and things like that. I get it, and you know, there's a whole process. But people that can do hosting, we don't need to do all that that all I need to do is somebody to count it, count me down, you know, from maybe twenty to one, and I can do it. So it's not like an unelaborate ritual is needed, like you know, people think it's Yeah, it's really strange that people think that you have to do a ritual to call forth a being into this world, and it's not. All you need is a portal person. And that's what doctor Green used to call me. He used to call me, say, I was one of the portal people. So all you need is somebody that has like an internal portal, which I do. I have a I'm more of like a receiver. There's other people that are kind of like expellers. They push their energy out. Mineus more like a pulling in of the energy in my area, which is the solar plexus. So we would do this where we would lay down and we'd get you know, ready to have this hosting. And what they wanted me to do is they wanted me to host their their familiar Damon and they wanted to have dinner with him. So that's what I did. I let this thing take over my body. And I remember when I tried to stand up up that my legs felt like there were one hundred pounds each, like I could barely walk. It was like trudging through mud trying to get to the table where they had all this food set up. And I don't think that they anticipated, you know, what it would look like to have you know, and you know, an ancient demonic spirit, you know, eat eat dinner at a table. They thought it would be something elegant. I think it wasn't because he eats like an animal and I was just like, you know, ripping and tearing food like like an animal, and it wasn't anything like. I don't think it was the image that they got in their head of what an ancient being would do. And this being was very kind of like not happy with what they were asking for, because they were asking questions like that you would ask like a psychic at a psychic fair, you know, about their business, if their husband was cheating and things, and he was very upset and these these the Dark Side has very strict hierarchy and they have a very strict rule about respect and things like that that he find that he found that very disrespectful that they called an ancient god to ask, you know, for tricks, parlor tricks. He said, you called me down here for parlor tricks kind of. And some of these people are trying to, you know, make what they consider moon children or children of the moon they call them. If somebody is you know, having relations with somebody that's hosting, they feel like if some there was a how do I say it, if something were to come out of that, you know, a particular sexual interaction, they believe that product is part of a demonic bloodline something like that. So they're trying to create their own army of Antichrist in that way. So and that's something that they still do, and they still they still purchase that kind of thing. And there are people that can do it. It's not just me. There are other people that are mediums that can do this kind of thing that aren't that are kind of you know, either trained or had this brought out in them or you know, they have fought did themselves something like that. Now, some of these things that you've interacted with and they're speaking through you, so I'm trying do you understand, like do you see what they see? Like do you have their memories at that time or are you. Only I'm I'm in their head there in mind, okay, and it's a it's a real merging of energies. Sometimes when they take over my body, I like to step step aside and lay down and take a rest. But there is never a time where if I felt any type of threat, my higher self can you know, kind of push through and speak, because I've done it a lot of times. If there was some things, and usually it's only in interactions with you know, human handlers that I was, you know, hey, these I will bust through. My higher self will kind of smash through and say, hey, these guys are up to no good, you know, in that you know, not in such a nice way I say that, but I say, these guys are up to no good. Just be careful of these people. Or if there I've had one entity that I did too, I try to warn people about because usually I don't really have a bad experience until, you know, unless they say something where I'm kind of like, well, yeah, they have really deceived people, you know. So there's a couple of them that people think are they've kind of made a resurgence, and they're female, a female one, and people are getting tattoos of this particular one. They consider themselves reincarnation of this goddess. They think it's a goddess. And she did say, she told me she's like, she wanted to thank everyone, you know, she said, thank you for bringing me back to life, because these particular entities they feel like they're dying out. They feel like because they consider themselves a race of beings, they say, our race is dying out because nobody is here to worship us, nobody is following us anymore, because they think that, you know, we have found new gods in this particular you know, lifetime, we have found new gods to worship, you know, gods of money and you know, things that we worship, other things besides the old gods. So they feel like they're dying. But this particular being, she considers herself a goddess. But and she did tell me, she's like, yeah, I am. She thinks that people think she's an angel. She's like, I am an angel, but I'm an angel of darkness. And she wanted to thank everybody for bringing her life again by speaking about her, you know, by showing images of her and things like that, they're making her live again. I do have another question regarding now you said an angel of darkness? These beings, where are they from? And I don't want to go to the religious aspect of it or anything like that, but like when people talk about demons, obviously then you have to talk about angels, and then if you talk about that, you have to talk about God. Then it's almost like the whole Christianity or judd But and. I'm not particularly I'm not religious, so I don't want anybody to think that I'm subscribing to religion. I'm not religious person. I don't believe in an organized religion, and I don't know why certain beings choose me as a messenger if I'm not even religious. It's interesting to me too. Yeah, because I'm like for you are like, I grew up in a very Christian home, but I don't practice organized religion. I have my own beliefs. But for me the same, I don't believe in it. Yeah, I don't believe in organized religion. Like I think there are definitely higher powers and beings and stuff like that, but I don't know. I don't condone to what man tells me to do. Same with me. That's why I kind of take my I use my own experience when people say something's evil and I'm like, well, you know, in my personal experience, you know, I've you know, interacted with these you know, certain beings and they didn't really And I hate to say this, and I don't want to scare anybody, but when I'm hosting a darker entity and then the light one, I don't really feel that different on the inside. I don't feel you know, once people think, oh, I have you know, positive energy or dark energy, I don't feel that is energy and it's you know, it's letting it take over my body. I don't feel like one is dark and one is light. I never I've never felt that. Interesting which one's dark. For me. For me, it's not going to be the same as other people, because, like I said, I've been become very conflicted in the fact that humans are doing other ones doing so much wrong to this earth. And you know, I'm getting a lot of really important information from darker entities. They're telling me things, they've been able to give me information on, you know, different programs and things using their all seeing information. And it's that to me is conflicting. So you know, I don't really have an answer to that because I wouldn't be the person, because I wouldn't consider them evil knowing a lot of them, you know, meeting them and them, and they even said that I'm one of their kindred spirits, you know, kind of because of how I used to what I was in a past life. That's why they don't harm me. That's why they don't, you know, almost like protective spirits in a way. They say they're here, they won't let anything happen to me. So to me, it's it's hard for me to aggress that because and especially not being religious, I can't say something is dark or light because I don't even you know, think in those times. Yeah, for me, it's like I feel like there are I don't want to say misunderstood. I'm not trying to be apology, yes, an apologist to any sort of side, but I think there's a lot of misconceptions between what's really good and what's really not good, and darkness lightness. I've said this a few times here recently on other episodes. A lot of people say that we are light beings. I think a lot of people are dirt bags, And how. Do we deal with that When I say I'm inside myself a dark entity and then I'm a good person in this life? How do I explain that to people? You know what I mean? And I've come across people I definitely because I talk about my reincarnation a lot. And there are literally people that said They've never done anything bad in any past lives. People have literally said that, they've already said, they say, I've been good every life, And I'm like, well, I think you might want to think about that, because do you think I, you know, in this lifetime who I am? Do you think I would have thought that I was a dark entity before? Never? That would have never crossed my imagination in any way. But it was a huge wake up call for me to see that there's so much that we haven't even become aware of yet. Because we haven't we're afraid to, you know, look into that other parts of ourselves. I don't know how the average person would be able to do that. Is there a way that they could? You know, a lot of it is even just meditating, even getting to a point where you're reaching that meditative state. That's I did a lot of practice like that on my own, just meditating. And of course when at first, when I first started doing it, I had a lot of V two K experiences because whatever was trying to control me knew that I was getting close to something very special, and they would always send me a mental message, you know, if you come any close. I remember the exact phrase when I and there was no other way for me this to happen. There was nothing around the phones, no nothing. It was me meditating in my own bed during the day, and it said, if you come any closer, We're going to take everything from you. They literally told me that. So it was a real threat to say to stop talking about this, stop searching, stop looking into this, stop telling people, which you can say. You know what you can do and what you found, that's not something they want out, you know, to people to know, you know, because I see how how it can affect people. Because me being able to do this, it has dropped a lot of fear away from me, you know, fear that I had of like the dark and the dark side and evil. I was terrified and a lot of that fear has kind of dissipated. Imagine if a lot of other people were able to drop that fear, you know what, then what about all the people that are trying to keep us in that fear state. What's going to happen then if a lot of us drop the fear, you know, of these things and not being controlled by it, it's I can't even imagine what could what could happen? Yeah, I don't know. It's a very taboo subject, especially for people that are super religious, because when you talk about things like this and they're you're conversing with demons, they're manipula, if they're evil, they're obviously going to tell you things just to try and get your soul. And also which I don't. And I understand, and I understand their ideas. I understand what they're saying, but that has not been my experience. And like I said, it's not They are not the only people that I have hosted, like recently, I just hosted it was a couple of months ago, Jesus and his mother Mary, And like I said, I'm not religious, so to have them come through and give me the most detailed information about the crucifixion, about you know, what happened to her during the day of his crucifixion, it was mind blowing. I'm not even religious, and I was mind blown about what had happened that day and what he saw, and he said that when he was up on the cross, he said in doing that, he wanted to show the world what he can do, and that he also wanted to show us we could do by leaving the physicality of the body behind that there that is not the real you. There's so much more to this world. So you mean, imagine getting messages like this, and it's really conflicting to me. And why would they choose me? If I'm evil and if I'm talking to Manic Kennedy's why would they choose me to give this amazing information? And a lot of this is in my book, so I put it in there. I put the whole conversation with Jesus in the whole conversation with Mary, which was my favorite, you know, one of my favorite things I've ever done, just because of the fact that I had never heard any of This is not information that you can hear, you know, other people talk about it. You don't find it in any book. This is straight from you know, straight from them. In my opinion and my experience, it was straight from them. I kind of already asked it again though, but like they could say, they're Jesus, But how are you one hundred percent certain that was I'm. One hundred percent in my soul. What I know is right. Other people, they would have to and I believe that in order for them to really, you know, one hundred percent believe, they would have to be doing what I do and sit in my seat, you know, and experience what I experienced to get the full picture of what would be like to have something as big as that inside your body. Speaking, they won't know until they can experience it, just like any other you know, medium that's due. You know, they get the same, they get the same backlash. It's not I'm not. I'm used to it, so it's not going to hurt my feelings when people say, you know that I'm lying or whatever. I don't care, you know, I'm just trying to do what I was told to do. And my own dead father told me to do this. He told me to burn the system down, and he was very serious. He said, go out there and tell everybody what they did and what they made us do. And that's kind of how I stay true to this whole thing, this whole thing that I'm doing by writing these books and getting this information out that I've obtained and taken a huge risk to get to people, and all they want to do is, you know, kind of focus on Oh, she's evil, she's talking to deams. You don't see all the information I've gotten about these programs about torture children and given it to the world. You know, I'm taking a huge risk doing this. I take a huge risk every time I remote view bases and try to remote remote view documents for people. It's a huge risk to myself in order to help the world and get them the information because I'm staying true to what my father told me to do. Yeah, I was more not so much them saying you're lying, but like the beings themselves lying saying they're something. That's I guess that's in people's own belief systems. That's their religious belief systems. That's not you know, that's not in my belief system or in my experience. So they have to, you know, deal with their own beliefs in terms of how they feel. And if it's not for them, it's not for them. I don't have any harsh feelings about that if they don't want to listen to the information, But it's there for people to look at and to you know, see what's being said. At least m I just know, Like again, if you listen to religious types of people, like a demon's going to lie to you. So it's going to tell you things that it's going impersonate whoever, is going to make you think it's good. Like I understand how that works because that's how I was raised. So I understand too. Yeah, I understand too. But I'm I'm not afraid of that, and I'm not afraid of hearing them fake because why would they fake when I am one of them? Why do they need a fake to me? I'm one of them. I'm one of their people. And that's why I've created such a huge connection with them. It is because in the past life I was one of them. They tell me that too, they said, that's why we're connected because you are one of us. So I can't and I never lie about it. I don't. I try to stay as authentic as I can by telling that story that I was one of them, and that's how I make this connection with them. And that's why I know they're not lying to me, because why would they need a lie to one of their own people? If it's one of you guys. Okay, maybe they want to lie to you, but I don't, and I've never heard any. Really, I haven't heard a lot of lies from them. I heard a lot of lies from humans, but not necessarily. Them, I know. For just in general, like you're one hundred percent correct with the human aspect, a lot of people are liars and don't do good things, and many peoplefvet. That's just human nature, and it kind of makes me go back to wonder why we are the way we are, which there is no real rhyme or reason as to that. Everyone has their own choice of what they try to do. I train, I think I try to do good in the world, but maybe to someone else I don't. It's a lot of it's based on perspective. It's based on perception and what you consider good and what you consider evil, and people have people in their own selves had to figure out what they can And I'm not trying to tell anybody what to consider good and evil. I'm saying this is my experience, and what I've experienced is going to be different from other people because of my abilities and what I've been able to obtain with it. You know, not a lot of people can try as far as I've gone, they just can't, and I wouldn't want them to because it's a risk, So I would you know, I'm taking the risk for other people to get the information. But I totally understand if somebody's afraid of it, because I've been doing this for a few years now and I hear it all the time about what they think the kind of person I am. You know, just based on the fact that I'm a medium and I'm able to get information, I totally get it. Would you claim you said you're one of them? So if someone said you're a dark entity. But that it's true, it's true because it's in my cellular level. It was me in a past life that and I can't delete it or eliminate it, no more than anybody else can delete one of their past lives. If somebody knows how to delete a past life, please let me know. I've never heard of anybody being able to delete a past life or eliminate it, and why would I want to. It was an experience that I needed to figure out, you know, what darkness was. And even in that stage, she thought she was doing something for good for people because they called all to the darkness. And she's right. When I was harlewing, people did call out to this, and they still do call out to the darkness still. And you know, my father even called out to the darkness. He told me that when he was young, he called out to the darkness for protection. So people are still doing this we call When I was a demonic entity, we called it a heart call. We called it the beckoning. That's the word they use, the beckoning when somebody calls forth an ancient god. When we don't call ourselves demons, we never did. We called ourselves gods. So when people are thinking about, you know, the current demonic entities, these are what they used to call gods in ancient times. In ancient times, we were called gods. So it's kind of shifted based on you know, current times and timeframes, culture, everything, subcultures. It. You got to see how powerful culture is too, and how it shifted the words and the images and what we use to describe these beings. Right, I think you actually gave me an idea to use for the name of this episode. So, but is there anything else you'd like to discuss before he trying to wrap this up, I know you have the books and everything, so I want you to. Oh yeah, we can definitely wrap up. Both of my books are on Amazon, and please, if anybody has any questions, if they want to discuss anything, you can find me on TikTok on Olivia James the Gray Mouse. So if you have if you read the book and you have any questions, just reach out to me and we can discuss it, no problem. Are your books available on Amazon? Yes, they're both on Amazon. Okay, I will make sure to send me I do this a lot. I tell people to send me links I can put it in the show notes, and then the episodes come out there's no links in the show notes and everyone's like, he's not putting links. I just don't ever get them sent to me. No, I'll send it toud no problem. I was like, I don't have the time to go and search for things because I do eight hundred different things a day, so I'm also forgetful, so I forget to go look for the stuff. So if you send it to him, I'll make sure to put it in there for everyone. Okay, sounds great. But now I appreciate you coming on here tonight and talk with me it's been a lot, a lot to take in, a lot to think about. So yeah, it's different, it's definitely different information. You're the first time I can say that I've interviewed a dark entity. So yeah, thank you, nice to meet you as well. It's I said, this will be a taboo episode for some people, but. Yeah, and I and I get it. And like I said, that's why I offer if anybody want to discuss it, they can, you know, talk to me about the book. It's totally fine. But I think if they read the book they'll kind of have a because me talking about it is so different from having all the information in one spot to kind of flip through. I think if they actually read the entire book series and you know, saw you know, the beginning and the end of it and what I what is actually being said, it might you know, kind of work a little bit better that way rather than me just you know, jumping back and forth between stories. Yeah. Well we're gonna wrap this one up. So I want to say thank you to Olivia, and thank you to everyone in the system, yep. And I want you to have a good night, and everyone out there listening to have a good night too. We're gonna wrap it up, so catch you on the next one. All right, thank you, and that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. 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