Ep. 60: A Haunting in Room 237 - Mystery Junkie

[00:00:00] And I just turned around and I pulled ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that.

[00:00:12] They had pockersia at the cold as one of the things that turned me away the quickest.

[00:00:21] When I turned my headlights on it turned and looked at us and one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were going to risk.

[00:00:31] I see an orb of light. It is just circling. These steps like it is waiting for me.

[00:00:41] And he begins to tell them that he saw you a flow. They're basically like what are you talking about?

[00:00:48] That seven foot of my tree peaking around it and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle.

[00:00:56] Nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it felt like death.

[00:01:05] Hello, Flow of Fanatics and welcome back to another new episode of Tinfoil Tales. I'm your host Brandon.

[00:01:11] Tonight we're going to be joined by my guest Oscar. Oscar had a recent encounter at a hospitality work set

[00:01:16] who's able to get an EVP of a little grill sounding voice while he was trying to communicate with whatever was in this room.

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[00:02:50] I'd like to take the time tonight to welcome my guest Oscar. Thanks for coming on and talking to me.

[00:02:56] Thanks for having me on and also want to thank you for having a platform like this for people who have had paranormal experiences or strange encounters.

[00:03:05] I think I'm going to come on and discuss this. You know, it's truly something great.

[00:03:11] Hey, not a problem. I do it because I felt like I couldn't talk about my stuff before so I wanted to make sure everyone else had an opportunity to share what they've encountered just so they didn't feel like they're being left out.

[00:03:23] Good. That's a godsend to some people. Yours and Vic's channels are like my go-to list and thing for anyone with experiences like that gone all the days. I have to watch monster quest to see people having encounters.

[00:03:35] It's funny you mentioned monster quest because I used to be one of the shows that I always watched after.

[00:03:40] I had my experience. I was one of my go-to things.

[00:03:44] They never found anything and I always started a rain before they had time to.

[00:03:49] Yeah, I still watch shows like that here and there but anymore it gets to the point where I don't even bother watching them just because they never find anything.

[00:03:58] I was like at this point I'd rather just talk to people that actually experienced the stuff to watch people while search for nothing to kick rocks.

[00:04:03] Yeah, that show finding big foot on for 10 years and they never found him.

[00:04:09] I don't even I couldn't get past like the first or second season of that. I don't discredit any of the people on the show or whatever but I've come to realize that when it's on television it's there for entertainment purposes.

[00:04:21] They're not really out there trying to do anything research wise if they're just out there making a TV show.

[00:04:26] Oh, for real.

[00:04:28] All right.

[00:04:29] So I'll introduce myself.

[00:04:32] I'm Oscar. I'm a respiratory therapist.

[00:04:35] I work at a hospital in North Alabama like the Appalachian regions, you know, it's all mystical and very haunted up there.

[00:04:43] And there was there's two hospitals in this city.

[00:04:47] One's the main hospital that I work at. The other ones mostly closed now. It's just a free standing ER.

[00:04:54] But throughout all my years, I've worked at the main one. I've heard tales about the other one being haunted and I finally got pulled over there to do the emergency room.

[00:05:05] And this was in October so it was kind of like Halloween spooky season and stuff.

[00:05:09] And it started the hour was slow by the way. It wasn't like I left the emergency room when a bunch of stuff was happening but I figured I'm going to go up ghost hunting and I don't know if you went ghost hunting before.

[00:05:24] Yeah, I've been out before on a couple times but it wasn't anything that a spectacular.

[00:05:32] Yeah, me too. We had that in common because all my I'm a believer but I don't say this. I guess I wanted an experience too bad because I've went to all these haunted places like cemeteries and bridges, you know, open to the public at night and all this stuff and tried to talk to the spirits and stuff and you really feel like you're talking to nothing.

[00:05:53] You know, it's a it's that all my family's had experiences but I've never had even though I've tried to seek it out. But never had one so that's kind of going into it. I was kind of more skeptical like this is going to be a dud. This is going to be nothing.

[00:06:07] And anyway, so a security guard. I found him and asked him can you take me to the second floor and he said what do you need up there? Because like it says all abandoned they just put like IV poles and some other storage equipment up there.

[00:06:19] I said, well, I heard it's a haunted up there and he like I'm so excited. And he kind of gave me like a ghost walk like a tour of their he took me to a labor delivery. He said that there's a you hear the screams of a woman presumably a woman who died in childbirth.

[00:06:35] And he said that when it was open that sometimes the nurse was actually like run to like patients room and seek because they thought a real person had scream.

[00:06:44] Then in the ICU, a shadow figure slammed doors cuts on TVs and he had a Bible that he had opened on like the desk out there like he does this and he says I'll come back and you know the pages will be turned to some other passage.

[00:06:56] And you know that could be anyone just flipping it playing a joke on him if they know he does that sounds like something I would do I would purposely mess with him if I knew he was doing that.

[00:07:06] But then the room 237 which is what I had my experience and I kind of feel cheated because I didn't realize I was having the experience at the time I just had my iPhone on voice memos and I was like talking to it.

[00:07:22] I did this to all the places the ICU and the labor delivery and there's nothing it's just me talking to him to do room but in room 237 they're supposed to be little ghost girl.

[00:07:33] And this I remember back when I was even a student in clinical is one of their respiratory therapists that precepted me.

[00:07:40] She told me that she had seen the little ghost girl right outside of the room and stuff and so I was going into that one a little more like well.

[00:07:48] So when I know is actually seeing this girl so maybe this is something and this woman who said that's very trustworthy she's not the type that just make up something like that.

[00:07:56] So I start recording and I asked her some questions I say like are you here do you need anything and you hear faintly yeah now when I was up there.

[00:08:08] I did not have any eerie feelings I did not it was not spooky it was broad daylight pouring in no curtains on the rooms anymore.

[00:08:16] It just was a dusty empty hospital bedroom so I didn't get any of those vibes and I didn't hear her with my eyes eyes to hear with my ears so I didn't know it was answer me another part I said you know if you're here let me know and I count like five in my head

[00:08:34] and in this recording which like I said you hopefully you know play it slice it in you hear or say something for me it was hard to make out I thought she said something like I'm over here.

[00:08:44] But some of the other people I played it to like my mother and sisters like the women they swear she asks for her mom like trying to find my mom or can't find my mom I'm looking for my mom that's what they say she says but it's a.

[00:08:59] It's one of those things are like if I tell you what I think it's saying and you listen to it you'll probably hear say it and if I tell you something else you listen to it you might hear that but I think the most convincing part of that thing that I did was I also said speaking to this little device in my hand because.

[00:09:18] I started thinking as i'm talking like you know this little ghost girl if it's here we didn't know what a cell phone is like how long has she been here like that hospital has been open since the 40s and 50s and so I was like what if they don't know what a cell phone is so I said speaking this little device in my hand.

[00:09:34] I'm not thinking anything's happening though and I count like three in my head I'm like okay and I close it it's like less than a minute long and I wish I hadn't done that because right at the end there it goes like oh like and she sounds louder and closer to.

[00:09:48] I do it so it's like I didn't give her time to you know finish speaking in any way so that's.

[00:09:56] We can go ahead now in this little section right here i'll go ahead and put in the.

[00:10:00] EVP for everyone to listen to.

[00:10:02] Perfect thank you.

[00:10:05] Okay in room 2 37 with a little ghost girl has been spotted are you here right now do you need anything I know it's probably lonely for little girl up here knowing.

[00:10:17] Play with or talk to since every patient and staff move downstairs just let me know if you're here.

[00:10:29] Did you die up here is that why you're here someone you love like a parent or a or a sibling or something speak into this little device I have in my hand to let us hear you.

[00:10:42] Okay and so you have any questions so far like or anything about it I listen to the EVP and everything and like I can hear the voices and everything.

[00:10:56] But when it comes to EVPs and this kind of what I said off air I try and remain skeptical i'm not discrediting you or anyone else but like.

[00:11:04] When you hear voices and you hear stuff like that you always trying to wonder if there's not like background noise and everything but since you're by yourself like obviously it would be someone else in the background talking or child or something else so.

[00:11:15] That's where you get your credibility from but.

[00:11:19] I've always I've had other people send me videos and send me things to like with orbs orbs are a weird thing for me because a lot of the times it could just be a bug.

[00:11:29] So it's hard for me to say what's paranormal what's not paranormal just because.

[00:11:37] I don't really know i'm not there to experience it i'm not discrediting anyone that has these experiences because.

[00:11:42] Who am I to discredit anyone because at the end of the day i don't know anything i'm just a guy and but i've always like I said i i'm open to the possibility of all these things but at the same time i also trying.

[00:11:55] I'm a little skeptical about it as well and trying to look for other explanations before i write it off as being paranormal that's because.

[00:12:02] I've said this multiple times the one time i did go out go starting with people everything is paranormal paranormal paranormal paranormal that's not how it works like once you can write off all of the explanations and you have nothing left to that can be explained by then you can start looking into paranormal but just to go off and say that every little thing is paranormal is not how i operate.

[00:12:24] And you know i'm the same way and i agree everything i mean i'm skeptical about a lot of the stuff you know and you know i call an evp is really just voice voice mimos on iphone i didn't like have a like all you know on the ghost hunting shows you see like they have all this equipment and machines.

[00:12:39] And some of that i'm very skeptical about to like you know the spirit boxes that picks up radio signals and static and it's supposed to be like the ghost can speak through it but you really hear in parts or radio you know and.

[00:12:52] And like it answered me but it just said something because someone on the radio said it yeah i think and dowsing rods i don't care what anyone says like oh i can't make these move i have had thousand rods in my hands and you can make a move without other people telling you can make a move so yeah.

[00:13:08] I'm skeptical to like i said i hadn't had an experience part of this like i said i kind of feel cheated because i didn't realize i was having one like until i later on after i listened to when i got back down to my department.

[00:13:20] I listened to them and when i got to that one, i mean my cheer run down my spine i got so scared i sent to my mother and sisters first and you know they they heard it like i did and i played to other workers and stuff i've seen it to some friends so it's out there.

[00:13:37] It's out there somewhere but you're going to be the first public one and the only one that i know of that's ever done that.

[00:13:43] To have it but uh.

[00:13:45] But you know after i listened to it i thought like maybe i should go back up there then i thought to myself maybe i shouldn't because it's actually haunted it's actual ghost so then i was actually all these other haunted places it's not like it's scary because i've never had anything like this happened before so.

[00:14:01] I was like i'm not afraid to go to these haunted woods these haunted cemeteries and you know like we were talking about everything's paranormal yeah if you go to a haunted bridge or whatever and then you hear like a creek in the wood wood and people like that's a ghost walking.

[00:14:18] Yeah i'm not like that i would tell them no it's just an old bridge you know these covered bridges are going to creek but with this there was no little girl up there there is nothing in that so.

[00:14:28] To me like i said you know i get being skeptical because you are there with me so you know you could think i just sent you this audio and like might have had like a little niece or something whisper into it but.

[00:14:40] I didn't do that but you know it's up to the audience and all the people who i sit at work i like the positive reaction and then people started telling me their stories from when they were there that some of them did hear the door slam some of them did see the TV's cut on this one nurse named Cynthia.

[00:14:57] said in that room to 37 she took a poise a word because this was back like the 90's i think she said you know not phones or anything she took a picture of a family who is in there because they wanted her to and she said you kind of saw like a translucent silhouette of what she thought was the little girl ghost.

[00:15:13] And so you know i like when i started playing that some of my co-workers law them start coming at me with all their stories you know i might not believe them if i hadn't experienced something like that myself.

[00:15:27] Yeah.

[00:15:29] Heronormal experiences i think everyone at some point has one whether they realize it or not i think we all have instances that could be considered paranormal it's just a matter for open enough to interpret it that way i think i think other people are more open to them than a lot of other people are to just because.

[00:15:48] You have some people are always having these experiences and then you might go.

[00:15:53] Your entire life and everything you had one but you probably have you didn't realize it.

[00:15:58] That's just that's my opinion again i don't know what i'm talking about.

[00:16:03] But yeah but uh so that pretty much the gist of it.

[00:16:11] But you know ghost ghost hunting it's like now i'm going to go into if i ever want to i don't even know if i want to go ghost hunting again because like i said when i had that it's like wow these things are really out there and you know they can talk to you communicate and you know i kind of thought about next time i get pulled over there i was like maybe i should go back and i thought about being nice and leaving like a little doll or toy or something for her.

[00:16:36] But then i started looking up stuff about you know children's ghosts and hauntings and you know it's like a rabbit hole and then like some places that.

[00:16:44] Oh uh sometimes demons mimic children's ghosts and you let your guard down and stuff and you know if i was to leave a present for it i'd open myself up to demotor possession because that's like a communicate with and so i was like you know what mal scratch that maybe i won't give the doll maybe i just won't mess with that spirit world again and stuff and.

[00:17:04] You know you said this in your podcast before that you know is it like when you start looking into things stuff starts looking into you.

[00:17:12] That's what you said that right yeah when you start looking into certain things things start looking back at you.

[00:17:19] Yes that's that's a great quote quote uh and.

[00:17:22] And you know on my channel you to try to mr junk i'm big into cryptids and aliens not really lot of ghost stuff but cool incidentally.

[00:17:33] I made it i just made another youtube video about a haunted hospital not the one i was in not one i've ever worked at but i had a lot of friends co workers who had worked there before that hospital was totally shut down and changed to a mental health facility and they even like had a nickname for the ghost home or there like it was like a big thing.

[00:17:52] And the county and so i interviewed some of those people and posted it and then like I said a couple days later i'm at that place and it's like a haunted hospital too.

[00:18:02] And then I actually have an experience for the first time so i really like after that happened i thought of this show because i remember you said that i was like.

[00:18:10] You know so i made a whole video about a haunted hospital not the one i was in and then i ended up actually having experienced at a hospital and i think a lot of hospitals might have.

[00:18:18] What's that called is it a residual haunting where it's traumatic events happen and so it like it's on replay.

[00:18:27] Yeah because you know she may have died there unless traumatic and so it's on replay that that scream of that woman that they said they've heard i didn't hear that one that's you know i'd hate to believe that an actual ghost an intelligent haunting is just wanting to scream non stop you know the whole time.

[00:18:43] So that's like one of those residual things i guess with the little girl ghost if that's legit and not demon talking to me i mean it answered my questions whether it was a little intelligent haunted or demon or evil spirit or whatever it was i don't know all i know is i spoke.

[00:18:58] Questions and i got answers and it was answers i didn't hear their while i was in person it wasn't to later that i realized my phone had picked it up and.

[00:19:09] Maybe our phones into the technology were getting today makes things like communication with other humans easier but maybe makes other realms other possibilities with the spirit realms easier communicate to who knows.

[00:19:21] I actually kind of agree with that because the frequencies that we're using with these cell phones i think every living thing i think everything in existence has their own frequency and.

[00:19:33] Depending on what we're vibrating at whatever once frequencies actually are i think whatever blends into our world has their own frequencies and maybe these phones and technologies is more word advancing is opening up more doorways for more paranormal stuff to.

[00:19:48] So i'm into our world.

[00:19:51] Yes and i also kind of when you're talking about the frequencies and vibrations i kind of believe that certain areas of the world kind of have like more.

[00:20:01] I guess frequencies vibrations john kill you know the author mothman prophecy called in like window areas.

[00:20:07] There are high strangeness can take place in you know like the muted triangle is one you know i think and you probably agree with me on this i think the appallacian mountains.

[00:20:18] Which is the area i'm in it's probably another because there's so much haunted history cryptid sightings UFO alien encounters in the appallacian regions and you know i think that that might have something to do with it too but you know you get ghost all over you know but.

[00:20:34] I feel like the areas like you mentioned has sometimes different areas have different frequencies and vibrations and certain places like that might you'll be more.

[00:20:45] If you're going looking for something you might want to check out those areas first i think with the appallacian mountains and stuff too there's a lot of cave systems through there as well isn't there.

[00:20:56] Oh yes so i have my own little theories.

[00:21:00] I think like a lot of you've heard of the hopkinville goblins like the Kentucky goblins or whatever they call them and you see the puck wudgy stuff from like up in the northern parts of the country.

[00:21:14] We have some of those here not too far south where there's a state park that supposedly have them there as well but.

[00:21:23] I start to think that maybe the things that people are seeing.

[00:21:28] Maybe there's something to do with these cave systems when it comes to like the weird little cryptids because you had your dover demon interviewed someone that had a northern part of florida they'd seen a small humanoid and i started looking into it there's been a lot of small humanoid type cryptid sightings within the appallacian mountains regions and i'm like there's a lot of cave systems through there as well so i'm not sure.

[00:21:53] If that has anything to do with it or not but that's kind of what i've started to like lean towards is maybe.

[00:21:58] Some of these cryptids that they're seeing are actually some do these cave systems may that's how they.

[00:22:04] Coming in out to our areas and maybe they live in the caves or maybe the caves have some sort of.

[00:22:11] I don't want to call it a portal but like some sort of a doorway opening into our world who knows.

[00:22:17] yeah have you ever seen that a show hell hellier.

[00:22:20] Earlier yes yeah i mean that's kind of what they discuss in that you know but that kind of that show kind of went on a rabbit road like their original witness that send them all this information like didn't exist or something is like a plot twist or.

[00:22:36] I don't know like that show spin me for a loop but i really liked like its theories that it had on stuff like that but uh yeah you get all sorts of stuff like that you know get these.

[00:22:46] Bergs in the appalachian mountains you know that's supposed to be one of the most haunted places because of the silver war but you know there's been battles fought all over.

[00:22:53] You know the world but not every battlefield is supposed to be haunted but maybe because that battle took place in the appalachian mountains maybe that's why it's more residual more powerful more people can pick up on it.

[00:23:06] Yeah i've always wanted to kind of go down there myself i've never been.

[00:23:10] Getty's bird but it's one of those things on my bucket list i'd like to do.

[00:23:14] What year did you say this happened i don't remember if you said what it was or not like what year it was.

[00:23:20] Oh this happened this past year i mean October so it's very recently.

[00:23:26] Oh yeah well i know this episode is going to come out later but yeah a few months ago last October 2023.

[00:23:32] Yeah i um i was just thinking like if it was a couple years ago or whatever then i wonder if there's been any more issues or not issues but like if anyone else had any experience in there since then but i guess whether being so recent that there really hasn't been much time to find out about it but you said it's room 237.

[00:23:55] Yep 237 is the room.

[00:23:58] And it is in the movie the shiny the Stanley Kubrick version they change the room number from the books in the book it was a 217 to 17 but in the movie they turned it to 237 and that's for that lady was.

[00:24:12] Dead in the bathtub that came out and was like stalker and i was a room that the.

[00:24:16] Old guy told him never to go into room 237.

[00:24:20] Oh my.

[00:24:22] Really little stranger synchronicity to that one.

[00:24:26] Huh well creepy i didn't know that i've seen the movie shining but i did not know that there was like a number and stuff well that's cool but now that a 237 well the first there's disagreement about being 235 and 237.

[00:24:41] But i went to 237 because 235 was locked so maybe she was supposed to be in 235 but that that doors close and when it opened.

[00:24:50] Some of those rooms are like locked i think they have them locked they put like the TVs that we all know the rooms there but anyways 237 was one i was in.

[00:24:59] Yeah that i'm pretty sure it's 237 because i remember in the shiny movie.

[00:25:05] The called the guy called him doc Danny I think was his name the little kid and he told him never to go into 237.

[00:25:13] And then when he finally went in there that's when that naked lady came out of the bathtub and she was all like Roddy looking and stuff.

[00:25:20] I'm glad i didn't have any experience like that you know and you know i actually thought like if i actually seen this ghost.

[00:25:28] And like i had no other evidence but like not the record just i've seen the ghost i probably might have kept the encounter to myself or at least i would told my family because you know they tell me their ghost stories and their sightings they've had.

[00:25:41] You know kind of rubbing in my face that they've had them and i have it but i would have told them but i don't think i would talk all work because i would have been afraid that you know they were like oh you're lying that didn't happen.

[00:25:52] And you know but since i had that recording you know it's more believable and since they know that area they know it's not going to be a little kid up there.

[00:26:01] A lot of them was more accepting of and i believed it because a lot of them had experiences too but i might have been the first time there's an actor like little recording evidence of it.

[00:26:11] Close to where i live like in the 70s it was called Faultville Metal Man it was supposed to be i did have a YouTube video on this and there was a police officer that supposedly took a picture of an alien and if you google Faultville Metal Man it looks like what someone in the 1970s would dress up as an alien.

[00:26:30] So it's probably a hoax but i don't think the police officer was in on it because his whole life got completely ruined like they they literally like fired him from his job strip him as union of his of his pension union all that stuff random at a town they burned his trailer down is why I've divorced him but he never changed the story after all these years and i tried calling him and contacting him and his new wife you know say he's not doing interviews anymore there's no reason to his story stay the same for 50 years.

[00:26:57] But you know how i hate when i witness this like this come forward especially back then and it just would just ruin their reputation or destroy them but like i said i'm glad that nowadays you know we have places like this and other podcasts and other areas where you know someone can come forward and not fear ridicule or fear they're like their whole world's going to be turned upside down if they come forward.

[00:27:22] Yeah i think today's society is a little bit more open than what it used to be back in those days everything was wrote off and you're either a hoax or a liar.

[00:27:32] And even today there's still the general public i think it's still that way in a lot of senses but more so i think they're a little bit more lenient and you can.

[00:27:42] Credit that to the tv shows and other stuff just kind of disincentize everyone to the taboo's of the subject matter.

[00:27:52] Yeah that's probably definitely it like you know how was a couple of months ago we're like the you know the you I want to use government that task force came out and was like yeah aliens are real UFO technologies were real yeah we're trying to reverse engineer their stuff.

[00:28:07] And like people talked about for like two days afterwards but it was almost like an almost a non event compared to what it would have been like imagine if that happened in like the 80s or something i'm sure people had been freaking out you know but today it was just like well yeah we.

[00:28:21] There's aliens we've known for a while you know that's what they're trying to tell us but everyone else is like well we knew y'all was lying about that it's crazy how the US government and hopefully this doesn't get the video taken off how like every about 20 30 years they come out they release a file that's like oh yes we did lie about that we did do that like you thought we were doing.

[00:28:45] And we lied and said we weren't but you know we did do that what are you gonna do about it nothing changes.

[00:28:51] Yeah I think there's more openness to the subject but at the same time the UAP hearings and stuff they didn't really say anything concrete because the guy that was the whistle blower

[00:29:08] and the other people that are talking about it yet the videos and stuff are out there and there's only the one person that said he was a whistle blower that said that they had aliens or whatever.

[00:29:19] No one else really confirmed that and now the government to my understanding has been trying to discredit him they said he had a drug issue he was suicidal and basically it's trying to throw his name through the mud dragging through the mud putting him through the ringer.

[00:29:37] And for what it's worth I'm not 100% certain that what he was telling everyone is 100% true not that he isn't.

[00:29:48] I don't think that he is personally doing it to be one of the people that are trying to steer the narrative but I think he's being fed information that he thinks he's doing good with it.

[00:29:59] I think he's only releasing the information they want him to release if that makes any sense like whoever fed him the information that he thinks he's leaking was actually playing it to him to release.

[00:30:09] And he's the one who's gonna have to face the consequences be told you know he's had a drug problem and he's suicidal don't listen to him yeah that sounds like that could easily be a thing it can be like a scapegoat or a face of something that's that who knows really about that but you know

[00:30:28] even after they came out and said all that stuff you know I still had to put gas in my car I stood mo my lawn it really didn't affect me that much you know and that's until those aliens come down and start like attacking us I guess we just carry on as normal I mean we still gotta go to work don't we.

[00:30:45] Yeah I've said that before too so I've had an episode about the earth being flat and I don't understand like I understand the concept

[00:30:57] and if you go down that rabbit hole you start to question things too but it's like at the end of the day I don't care if the earth is flat I don't care for on a spinning ball through space I don't care spaces

[00:31:08] unless I don't care if we live under a dome at the end of the day I still gotta get up like you said put gas in the vehicle go to work it doesn't change my life yeah the fact that I know that they've been lying to me my whole life okay I mean at the end of the day my life still the same.

[00:31:23] Oh yeah but that's another 10 foil till for that one.

[00:31:32] Oh yeah yeah that's actually you know I've listened to all your episodes I kind of skipped that one because I don't want to entertain the flat earth theory like at all I hate I don't believe it like you said it doesn't matter one way or the other but I just think there's too much evidence that you know how they still believe in that they're this flat I mean I'm not sure if I can do that.

[00:31:52] I mean when you look up I mean with my eyes I can look up at the stars and skies and you can see planets with telescopes and everything's around but the earth that's the one that's gonna be flat yeah but it's whatever.

[00:32:04] Yeah well again like I said I don't necessarily believe they're at the flat either but I do question certain things about the distances of stars in space and how science proves all this and that some of the some of the scientific numbers is just a little bit more.

[00:32:21] The scientific numbers just seem crazy leo plausible to make any sense but that's just because apparently I'm not smart enough I don't know.

[00:32:29] I mean I read something too about like the moon that every like year or something or every hundred years or something it gets like a few inches more distant or something but you know to assume that if that's really the case that's really happening when it be like 100 million years ago the moon would be right upon us and like there'd be floods just happening all the time and how could they do that.

[00:32:50] I mean how could the diner source even survive this just constant tidal wave after tidal wave so you know like you said the theories about this distance and this I mean let's get a tape measure out there.

[00:33:00] I don't know how they can truly figure that one out.

[00:33:03] Yeah when they talk about how things are light years away and the closest start us is a I forget the exact number but it would basically take up to the point where I was talking about the light.

[00:33:19] It would basically take us it would take 30.

[00:33:27] 30 something thousand years to go one 25th the distance to get there like that makes no sense when you think of it scientifically like if you travel to speed of light and it's like for something light years away.

[00:33:41] The speed of light is some ridiculous number you try and figure up the map like it just doesn't it makes my head hurt trying to process it so it's like a.

[00:33:51] I said what comes the distance how can they judge that how do they know if there's for saying something is so far away.

[00:33:58] It's like so many trillions of miles away that would take 30 something thousand years just to see it so everything that we're seeing in space right now is from the past so why are these stars might even be there for something like billions of light years away.

[00:34:10] So you're saying it took billions of years that light to what we're seeing in space right now was from billions of years ago.

[00:34:17] It doesn't make any sense I feel like if I'm looking up and I'm seeing it should be in the present time I'm not seen in the past doesn't my brain can't process that I guess yeah the math's not math and I've heard actually three we talked about how you know we're supposed to be seeing stuff that's less stars that could have done when extinct and exploded and I heard some theory that like aliens are visiting us and like they're surprised that it's we're not going to be able to see it.

[00:34:39] I said it's we're an advanced civilization because when they would see us from their distant planet they'd be like looking at dinosaurs through their telescopes because that's how light that I've heard that theory but it's like okay sure so they want to come here to see dinosaurs.

[00:34:55] I guess that's cool I want to see dinosaur but like I said I've heard that those theories would like fractation all that stuff.

[00:35:02] There's so many things out there but like I said some of the points that they make in the flatter theory like I tell everyone if you don't want to go down the rabbit hole don't listen that episode because it will make you start questioning certain things not that the earth is flat but a lot of the stuff that science tells us makes you question like the logical stuff like that at least it did with me.

[00:35:25] But I'm a bit of a few celebrities these days that are flatter there's what I think is kind of strange to think about talk about it but I've seen interviews and stuff from other people and I'm like yeah.

[00:35:37] You know there's a lot of the celebrities who like follow Scientology too you know that's kind of crazy rabbit hole thing to so you know I celebrity you know they're not the smartest folk I think but I have a question for you branded so I got your book on the way.

[00:35:55] Shadows of Cedarville just ordered a couple days ago supposed to be here next week I'm wanting to you know be a future author like in 2024.

[00:36:04] I'm kind of wanting to write like a book on like the high strangest of the Appalachians I got like outlines and all this stuff it's like one sections about cryptids ones about aliens encounters ones about the ghosts and stuff what is your writing tips like what's your process because I'm kind of just like fly by the seat of my pants type it all out.

[00:36:24] Proofread it later when I'm done but what's your process how any writing tips you guys.

[00:36:30] Be a hundred percent honest I did exactly what you said you do I came home I shared my encounter on Reddit on a couple different red post and someone started critiquing how I wrote my encounter this encounter that I had shared with the Vick or whatever and I was like I'm not.

[00:36:53] Writing a book I'm literally just saying what happened.

[00:36:57] And you're like critiquing me on how I wrote everything I was like and then I went ding ding like I clicked in my head so because this person pissed me off I was like I want to write a book now.

[00:37:07] I bet the first chapter of the book is basically my encounter I change like some names or whatever but for the most part it's.

[00:37:15] Legitimately what happened the other chapters are basically like chapter two and chapter three up to chapter four or kind of like what I do now I the guy started a podcast is interviewing people it builds the story up.

[00:37:28] And then from there it turns into like a fictionalized horror story but.

[00:37:35] Far as tips and stuff I literally used notes on my iPhone I wrote everything in that I kept emailing up the notes to myself and I take it I put it in the word.

[00:37:46] And I just started putting things in there and I try to read it and I realize I was pasting stuff together not in chronological order so it makes sense I had to go back and fix it but basically I wrote the whole book in four days so like 150 pages roughly.

[00:38:04] But it's a I used word and then I downloaded a trial version of grammarly to try and make sure everything was spelled correctly in this and that and then I also used one of those chat bots or whatever to try and format everything correctly because I don't know I'm not an author really I don't write books I didn't know how to have everything spaced out and format it.

[00:38:26] And then after the book came out I got it back I realized that one of the first few sentences there's misspelled words in it like how did they go through three different spell checks is to have stuff misspelled.

[00:38:36] That's that's why well yeah I'm glad you gave me kind of a spoiler free like review kind of like what to expect in the chapters thank you but it's cool but yeah I'm going to try my best to do I'm not going to write in four days I it's going to be like a 2024 like an use resolution go I'm going to try to have.

[00:38:55] See if I can get it done I think it's 15 chapters what I want to do it in so I mean we'll see we'll see maybe I'll get it done maybe this I won't but you know it's worth a shot so everyone's a book in them I think.

[00:39:10] I definitely recommend if you have the idea to sound and do it I think everyone that's capable of doing this should just try it it's always cool to have a book I'm looking at the one I got right now is like.

[00:39:21] At the end of the day I can look back be like you know what I have a book so it's just it's something for me to just look back on I guess and be like well I wrote a book that's cool.

[00:39:36] And I love that you showed that redditor you know you did it out of spite and sometimes some of the best stuff comes out of spite like the 27th amendment the news to me with the Constitution it got passed because some boy in high school or an essay on that should be an amendment in his teacher failed him for it and so for like the next 10 years even after he graduated he started emailing people and like did a mass campaign and that's how it got passed there was all out of spite.

[00:40:03] That guy he just had to prove that high school teacher wrong.

[00:40:07] I will give you a bit of writing advice and I don't I said this on other episodes or someone else's interviews I've one another podcast that have talked me about the book.

[00:40:19] I used those three different editing things and every time it would make a suggestion I didn't read what was suggesting I just pressed OK because I figured that AI technology and stuff for smarter than I was and that is not necessarily always true.

[00:40:34] So it changed words apparently because I said they were afraid of this or something like that and it would it change certain things so severe interpretation quite a bit as like pretty sure I don't think I've ever used the word trepidation ever.

[00:40:48] It added those words to the book so there's certain words in there that it kind of repeats itself here and there and I was like man I didn't say these words but it's like now it makes me some more intelligent but I'll be 100% honest with anyone is like I didn't use those words I might have said like determination once or twice or something but it put it in there quite a bit.

[00:41:07] Yeah that episode you had about the rise of AI we like interview that AI bought I was like this barred sounds more intelligent than most people I mean it really is but as far as like AI I think I hate about it when it comes to like kind of like our style like cryptids and cryptosology and stuff you'll see so many like AI generate pictures of big foot now or generated videos of dog me and stuff and like they're AI and that's kind of forever put down and everyone's having a lot of fun.

[00:41:37] If someone comes forward to an actual video or something you know that they actually think people say oh this AI that's not real I mean there always they're always be a doubt now no matter what you have we'll have to have a body now of big food or anything like that which I mean I guess we'd need it anyways but like I said that's the one thing with AI I've noticed a bunch of shares on like a bunch of these cryptid groups there was a AI picture of a big foot it was like oh this was found in a jar in Alabama from 1888 down

[00:42:06] if you've seen it but it's like a big foot with a cane next to a guy and then like oh he must have broke his leg and they nursed him back to hell that's why he's just big for just standing there.

[00:42:17] Yeah the artwork for the podcast it's AI generated every every episode if you're ever see the artwork I make a new piece of AI generated episode artwork and then like main cover for the podcast is all AI stuff I use AI work for pretty much everything these days I know

[00:42:35] that reps artists the wrong way but when you are a poor podcaster trying to stop paying money out of your own pocket for everything because

[00:42:45] you have to pay for your hosting fees you have to pay for your I have to pay for zoom and I have to pay for some of the software to edit things like it's not free people don't seem to realize that

[00:42:57] and I'm going to cut corners where I can so if I can make my own artwork and save some money I want to do that.

[00:43:04] Oh 100% I respect the grind I mean I do the same thing with some of my videos I like to go to Google images for whatever cryptid or monster whatever I'm doing a analysis on my videos

[00:43:17] and you know saving them and running through the software to check see if the images copywriter not but I've recently I said recently last couple videos I've been doing like I AI generated art pieces too for it because I'm pretty sure after you generate a piece of art in AI like you almost pretty much own the copyright if I'm not mistaken but maybe

[00:43:36] I am but I remember I heard that somewhere so it's like that's your image so no one can copy right strike you on it because even if you take apart from the artist like you were saying but I appreciate you know that you're taking the time to do this and you know that you're spending some of your own money on it.

[00:43:52] So you know cut corners wherever you want to it's still a fantastic podcast.

[00:43:57] You know why I appreciate that and I'm glad that you're fan of the podcast I feel like a lot of the people that I've interviewed have never heard of the podcast until they want to go on the show for an interview so it feels like it's nice to actually have some of us actually listen to the episodes because usually most people like I said they don't have much background history on the podcast

[00:44:18] I don't know what I'm doing or what I'm talking about they don't check it out until about time to get on the podcast.

[00:44:23] My my summer I lost a bunch of weight this summer because I started walking five miles a day and on those walks you take like an hour and something you know in some change to walk that time and I was listening to your podcast most of the time

[00:44:38] and they're red grid mark one that's my all time favorite one.

[00:44:43] Well spoiler alert by the time this airs there will already be a new episode out that tills was a red grid mark and some other stuff.

[00:44:52] Now I can't wait now now you got me excited.

[00:44:55] Yeah by the time this episode's out there will already be one out there but for a for editing purposes I'll edit the part out but it should be out the right around Christmas.

[00:45:07] Right around Christmas time.

[00:45:09] Oh well that's a good Christmas prize then you give us because that that that was that blew my mind I went in search to ball that Mayo clinic and that Facebook thing is just I was like what is going on here I mean it really is you dropped a new conspiracy on me like that it was great which I know wasn't your original is that other other people have discovered it but still it was it blew my mind.

[00:45:36] Yeah I'm going to be working with a couple of other people and we're going to be doing a bigger I don't know what the term should be called for but we're going to try and blow the topic up because there's just not enough people talking about it and we discussed that on the episode that I recorded recently that I actually talked to is a he studied like a PhD.

[00:46:02] And he does stuff for like the dream portions of it but he's still researching the actual patterns and he's using geometry and symmetrical stuff to figure out the patterns and there's a lot more details involved with it so amazing.

[00:46:18] So there's a lot more to it and I'm hoping to get a couple different people involved with some bigger podcast in trying to blow the lid off of it if possible but we'll see what happens.

[00:46:32] Oh well whenever those get posted I'll share them on my socials and I was going to say maybe I can make a video on my YouTube but my my channel is really more like about the cryptids the ghosts and aliens stuff like that I wanted to kind of do some conspiracies but you know I'm just on YouTube and you know how they feel about that the algorithm.

[00:46:52] Yeah, I don't believe and not that I'm a big you to this guy's a little over 600 subscribers right now is this moment as the moment of recording but I hope to buy the end of next year 2024 maybe have 1000 but like I said I just do it for a hobby fun I can't put them out every week like you I'm lucky if I get one out once a month or two.

[00:47:16] Yeah, I have I have that schedule every Tuesday I drop a new episode so I gotta keep up with that but I've got so many episodes already recorded that I'm good up until probably almost March at this point.

[00:47:29] So wonderful.

[00:47:32] I remember you said you thought about going to two episodes a week you know you said well I want you to know you number one fan here thinks that's a cool idea if you have to do it.

[00:47:42] It would help with the not having such a big backlogs I feel bad for having these interviews here and then there's like a four months period before they get aired so that's what I've been kicking around but that's a that might be something I do here after the holidays and see how it goes.

[00:48:03] Do you have any questions more about my experience or anything like that or.

[00:48:09] With it being so recent and everything I mean do you think it's something that you'll actually try and go back in there to investigate anymore or collect what you said with people morning about the demonic possessions or whatever you go back in there that's where I'm always lary of when I told people is before I don't go out looking for the stuff because I don't know what I'm going to bring home.

[00:48:30] I don't want to bring anything back with me if I go out look for it I don't want to come back with me.

[00:48:36] Oh yeah I understand that you know I guess if I was to ever get pulled back to that side which I that's the first time I went there in like my five years of working there they don't

[00:48:48] have like a respiratory therapist that just permanently over there but there's like some calls in and some vacation so I got pulled if I may have a report back over there and the emergency room is not busy.

[00:48:59] Yeah I'll probably go back up there.

[00:49:01] I won't bring like a weedy border anything like that but I'll probably go back up there and maybe see if I can get something.

[00:49:09] Yeah well if you do just make sure you're careful because again you don't ever know what kind of what you're really talking to that's why I've always said when it comes to the paranormal stuff or voices or anything like that I'm like after time I just pretend I don't hear it because I don't want to acknowledge it

[00:49:25] because I'm afraid if I acknowledge it then it's going to start manifesting itself even more.

[00:49:30] Yeah there's this saying we have an appa Latia where if you're in the woods and you hear something call your name know you didn't like it.

[00:49:39] Apparently just sometimes you just got to ignore the things and they'll go away they'll leave you alone but if you answer them back or go trying to follow the voices you might not like where it ends up yeah that's a cautionary tale.

[00:49:51] I've heard that several different times so far.

[00:49:55] I said if you hear your name being called out in the woods don't go off to the woods.

[00:50:00] I was like yeah I don't plan on going into the woods anyways and if someone's out in the woods yelling my name I'm gonna be a little bit more hesitant because who would know my name you know that yelling for me.

[00:50:12] Well if you want to plug your podcast again or your YouTube channel for everyone to check out you can go ahead and do that before wrap this up.

[00:50:22] Alright sounds good yes my YouTube channel I'm just on YouTube right now it's called mystery junkie I'll probably comment like right on this video as soon as it comes out so you could probably just go down there and see my comment and go to my thing.

[00:50:37] I think all of these listeners will kind of like what I do on there I I give kind of just straight to the point analysis of crypt is maybe what they could be could they be a hoax theories I do that with alien encounters too.

[00:50:51] And I have a ghost video up to so if you're interested in any stuff like that paranormal spooky stuff high strangeness go to my go like and subscribe but you know don't expect like a weekly thing from me sorry.

[00:51:06] Maybe someday.

[00:51:09] Alright thank you very much have a good night.

[00:51:13] Thank you very much to you have a good night too.

[00:51:22] Remember the truth lies in the stories we share the connections we make stay curious stay open minded thank you all for joining us on this journey and until next time keep questioning keep seeking and keep exploring the unknown.

[00:51:36] Not everyone.