Tinfoil Tales: After Dark - Ep. 3

And I just turned around and I'd call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most where the eyes were glowing red. I see in the work of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, those and the eyes as soon as I made eye contact with this thing. And don't like me death. Hello everyone, Welcome to ten Foil Tails after Dark. I'm your host Brandon. Now we're going to be joined by my guest, Jesse. He's gonna come on here and talk a little bit about some of the things he's experienced. Before we bring Jesse on, I have a fellow podcaster that I'm gonna bring on here with me here in a second from the Caffeinated Cryptid. Welcome Bob to the stage. Hey, how you doing. Hey, what's going on? Thanks for having me on here? Kind of fired up? Got my coffee ready, let's go, let's be cranking. Yeah, so you want to let the audience know litle bit about yourself, podcasts and everything. You got a crowd in here already, I see, Yeah, I'm a I'm Bobby Dizzl, the caffeinatid cryptied. I started off just like everybody, like a uh your I call it your Mom's Basement podcast, where I had like anybody on here that did anything, and slowly realized that the only people I could get to talk to me were bigfoot uh ufo, you know, kind of paleontologists, not a lot of ghost people, And so I changed the name. You know, I drink coffee and talk about Bigfoot. So here I am the caffeinated cryptid. Yeah, get pretty woo woo sometimes. But I've tried to get more scientists on lately, and it seems to be more fun try to get an anthropologists and biologists because I started getting criticized by people, you know, like like this is just cookie cutter woo woo crap, and I'm like, well, I guess uh changed that a little bit and I think it's worked out, but I still like to I still just talk a lot of smack on a podcast, a podcast or at heart. Bas for me, it's like I enjoy what I'm doing. I don't really know if I'm a podcast or not. I guess I am. But like, I've always been a musician far as like playing music for band stuff or whatever like this my old band so Sporting Beast of Bray road shirt here tonight and uh. But basically, uh, I started podcasting because I had some weird stuff happen, and I had all this recording stuff and we weren't doing band music stuff anymore. So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna try my hand in podcasting. But you got, uh, I guess, got some elite level gear there, just a recording level for band stuff. You would think I would know more about what I'm doing, but I'm an idiot, so I don't know anything. I don't think it does every day. Every day everything changes. If you don't know how to you don't know how to do a conversation, just get like ten thousand dollars worth of gear and hope it feels itself in in the middle. Yeah, That's that's what I try and do is just fake it, fake it till you make it, throw money at it. But I think now we can bring on a couple of people we got waiting. My friend Ed. I want to bring him on. He's actually had some recent sightings of something strange in the sky. His episode shouldn't be coming out here in a couple of weeks, but he's gonna hop on here with us too, And I'm gonna bring Jesse on. So it worked. It did work. Jesse, how you doing? Are you doing good? You? It's awkward when you have more than one person on here, so the whole life thing is kind of a different vibe. But you know, you never know who's gonna take the baton, Yeah, each other. Jesse doesn't live too far from Ed and I. He's actually from Indiana to and heads out of South Bend area, so we're all kind of in this area. But uh, well, triangle on. Yeah, So what have you when you originally reached out to me, talked about some of the things that you said you experienced and had some knowledge on what is uh some of the stuff you want to dive into tonight? Oh well, I was going to ask you the same thing. What do you I've got Uh, I've got geopolitics and espoteric and uh, we've got the encryptids a little bit not so much, and you know, ghosts, UFOs whatever you like. You ever do anything with C five's, Oh, I don't know what that is? The uh? You know Stephen Greer, he does the uh, he does the C five were you kind of you know, and you make the UFO appear. No, I've never known anything like that. It's it's my interesting because one night I was building a campfire in the backyard and concentrated really hard like they told me to, and something happened, and I was like, did I just do that? It's like anybody says UFO, I ask about that. It's kind of interesting. Well, when I was a child, I've always been aware that I get these little downloads, and I always knew where it was coming from in the sky. Now there's nothing visually there to my eyes. But anyway, now, the only UFO I've seen is in twenty twenty, I saw on or. I was just it looked like a sunset, but it was way up above the horizon. It was eleven thirty at night. It just turned from like a golden yellow to the deep purple like sunset, and but you know some would have been out over Hawaii. I looked into it. I was trying to figure out any reason for it. Eleven thirty nine, that's almost Japan, you know now about five hours away. Ed you saw some strange lights walking back in December? Yeah, like yeah, because we were trying to figure out the date on that. Yeah, it was decemberish am I supposed to say the whole story, right or interrupting everybody, I tell the whole story, but just kind of a little bit of I saw some like like I was picking somebody up because of uber like on the side because I look like an uber driver, don't it anyway? So I just happened to be staring out in the sky and I thought it was lightning, but it was in only one direction, and it seemed like like balls of light kind of like explosions like you would see in like dry heat thunder. But it wasn't like in the surrounding area. It's just one concentrated area and I have no idea what it is. But even the person I picked up saw it and he was like freaked out by too and it was happening about like ten thirty ish and in the evening, so I can't explain that. I know it wasn't lightning. It wasn't. I don't know it was. It was kind of cool. It made my evening. And was it in the sky, he said, And it was like in the sky. It was almost like yeah, in the air, like almost like a firework went off, but there was no sound, and it kept doing it and then it kind of stopped, so I don't think it was lightning. My first thing I thought of was those you know, the balls every you know, every straight stretch of train track in America, I have like the balls of static gather up in a real, real dry part of or not drive wet like during the lightning storm. Lightning. Yeah, but it'll be like ten foot above the ground and moving down the track and it'll eventually be known as insert that town's name lights. That's what I was thinking of. What you said, that Chapel Hill light, Flint, the lights, there's all kinds of them. I don't know. It was pretty good. It was like, yeah, sorry, I'm sorry. It was begging in December. Yeah that happened. Yeah, I was seeing the same thing. I saw that two or three times driving home on second shift. I attributed it as a weather phenomenon rather than I didn't think UFO. But yeah, I know that too. Yeah, see, like that's what I'm saying. It was in the It was in the night, and nobody would probably be out looking up in the sky because it was kind of an ugly day and I was like densely fog, so it whatever light it was, it was like magnified because of the fog. But it seemed like explosions in the sky, but there's no sound to it. And again I wouldn't believe it myself if I didn't have a witness that was all freaked out by it too. So that was my thing. That was pretty cool. Yeah, that kind of stuff, weather phenomenon like that is wold when you're not expecting it. Just like those uh sea sprites what they called. You see the it's like a big octopus in the sky after a lightning storm. Yeah, you you ever seeing those? Those are wild? Like you would think it was the end of Cloverfield, Cloverfield ten, Cloverfield Lane, Like when the lightning flash and you saw that mothership m hm, sounds like those d MT reports too. No ayahuasca. While you guys are talking amongst yourself, don't mind me. I'm trying to spam this around so to get more people, I'll put you in about ten big groups. Hopefully we get some people on. I don't have a huge following with They're faithful little fellas. I'm just dropping where I can drop. I'm a I'm more fascinated by Like I just got a new Mac and like the screen is bigger than the MacBook I ever used, so like technology is cool. It's only a twenty fourteen like Mac, but like it's cool to see a bigger screen of people and they're more details than people. But I don't know, technology is weird. I got a little Mac up. I got my Mac over here, like a thirty two mink screen in front of me. Right, it's just like thirty seven. So it's like I feel like I was a caveman forever. You're looking at a MacBook. Yeah, yeah, now it's like now it's like a home theater. It feels like anyway, not related. I think with some of the strange things have been going on with like this UAP and everything else, it's interesting that more and more people are seeing these strange things in the sky. Like I don't know how to explain it other than are they preparedness for something? And then you have the crazy stuff happening next week with the around it, but the following week with the eclipse all the strange, Oh, you can't work, We're now the state of Indiana has the governor signed an executive order for emergency response and it is an eclipse, like what it is to be? I looked that up. Yeah, yeah, like that's my sorry, let's say it's my daughter's thirteenth birthday. And then we got all the strange stuff going on that day. Okay, that's on the Monday. It was kind of like that for the last eclipse, though everybody was passing around in glasses. Yeah. I think everyone's got the glasses now here in my house. But my work isn't letting us off. I feel like some people are getting work off for it, which is kind of weird anyway, but like no, they had a little bullets and saying like, oh, prepare for the blah blah blah, it's going to be a blah blah blah time and we'll hand out like advisors or something. I'm like, we're going on breakfast to watch this thing. Yeah. When it uh, when you follow all the strange things that go on and everything else, like and you start to read into topics and you're like, man, this is really just a natural phenomenal or more stuff going on that they don't want us to know about. So my brain's always kind of seems strange. Now NASA's launching these three rockets supposedly at the eclipse when it happens, So it's like, this is wait what, Yeah, why I heard this yesterday? They're trying to It's they're testing out something and they want to release three rockets towards it. I think to check the vibrations. There's frequency, it's something. It's like, really, that makes no fucking sense to me. Why you'd want to go on there and release it's not gonna make it there, Like, the rockets aren't fast. They're we're gonna blow up the sun some doctor evil ship there. Yeah the eclipse. Man, Now I see why gas prices keep going up. They're just saving the the field for that. You know, everyone needs to save the money because uh yeah, come solar eclipse time, it's the end of the world as you know, it only happens every eighteen months something like that. It isn't It is twenty twenty four. It is a leap year, and it's also an election year. And I don't want to talk too much about that x we'll get pulled off the air instantly. But you know, a lot of weird stuff happens during election years. That's what they want you to think. They're trying to correlate it something. It's like it amplified by the fact that it's election here. No, well, two headed moose was found in Alaska. It's an election here, you know, right, it's an election here October surprise, three hated three headed snake. I feel like I'm sick of hearing that it's the election year and things have to get worse. It's like, are you that dumb? Now? No, We're like, we're sick of it. You know, it'll be like, oh, all the crazy stuff happens because it's election. Like, we're not falling for that. Some people still are, though, so I haven't watched actual news in over four years. It's betther than tornado coverage. You're probably happier that way. I'm very happy. I'm exciting. I'll watch like twenty minutes of TikTok and they'll be like something's happening. It's I'm like, what is happening? You know? We got a Calfers down the road. They fantastic burgers. That's the only thing I care about, those buttery burgers and the cheese curds. There. Get the cheese curds. It feels like a Walleye fish sandwich. I want to kick it back to Jesse because sorry, Jesse, No, it's all good now. I used to be competitive eater. Yeah, I always said I was a competitive eater, but I was just an excuse to be fat, just as that's my fault. You just have you just have hypo blastemia. I just see food and I'm like bust right. But no, she said you in one of the emails you'd sent me, you said there were you've seen something like some sort of a creature that shouldn't be in this air, like it's area. What was that about? Like you remember, oh, I may have been seeking information about local riptids. And because I do feel like there's stepping whale more than feel I've seen a couple of things back there scurries away and but yeah, so anyway, I know there's something out on this land. I found some old maps, and this row of houses has been here for forever. I've been out back, and I've found some structures on the property or evidence of structures that existed before this house. And this house is one hundred and twenty five years old already. And and I was just seeking local information on what the maybe the Indians said was here or something like that, because I'm thinking we're talking pre White Man here totally. Is there mound builders around where you're at the mountains? There used to be. I think there still is. I know there's Mound State Park down and Anderson. Yeah, I mentioned that several times on episodes. There's a They talk about puck wedgies a lot down there. One of my favorite non bigfoot cryptis by the way, the little people mm hmm. You gotta give them tobacco to keep them happy. That's one of the things I did. And we have a great relationship. So it's the year's twenty twenty four, and and you've got a puck wedgie problem. What kind of tobacco do you give them? I mean, it's not like back in the day when you had one kind of tobacco, and you did with that tobacco with what you wanted to, Like, do you give them like Marlboro Reds. I smoke out of a pipe, so I just gave you. So you give them like, oh, you give them my actual pipe toback? Okay. It was always thought about that. Yeah, Like what if the puck weudgie likes light menthol one hundreds or something? What do you give the puck lead back here? I'll give them whatever as long as they bring my damn forks. Yeah, you know there's something about that what I was wishing one day for My wife had said something about some new pots and pans, and I couldn't afford any pots and pans at that moment. And walked back there and there are a couple of almost brand new putts just sitting in the backyard. I don't know who he stole them from, but they weren't there last time I was out there. Somebody's like, where in the hell do you think the puckwaji thing is? Like where the elves and the shoemaker store made it came from. I just thought of that when you said the pats and pants underpants nobody remember that. The elves and the shoemaker. Yeah, thank sure. I did go to sleep and wake up in the shoes would be made. Yeah, like that's awesome, Like we need them do my job for me. Yeah, they help out. They make the plants grow. I try not to miss them off. Step one, step underpants, step two profits Where Where? Where's your location at? Jesse Huntington? Oh, I was there not too long ago. You have a cool little downtown. I don't know why. It's just kind of cool down there. It is any thing? Who was it dan Quayle. I'm of dan Quayle. Oh shit, he's still around. No, I don't think even alive. So he just said dan Quayle, he's alive, isn't he is? Heck Cheney shot him? I don't know. But he was an actual quail quail that is a possibility. No, I did not know that about Huntington. But like the downtown is like really historical. I can just tell the way it's set up, Like I don't know. I went there back in December to watch God's Lilla minus one by myself, and I thought I was the only person in the theater, and then for some reason, a family comes in as like a dad mom on as soon as there's some he's like almost my age, and they all sat right next to him. I was like, this is an entire empty theater. I mean here to enjoy my movie by myself here, and and you literally sit right next to me. There's like forty other empty seats all around you. Why did you say directly beside me? They made it very awkward. Where did you say that? I said, the very top, like the middle, where it's like I sat in the middle. But I said, like the way the ros are set up, I set like the iss always right here, and they had sections over here, and they had something right here, so they sat directly at the top and they said on the other side of the section, so like they weren't next to me, but they were like right beside me, separated by the aisle. I was like, there's plenty of other sides you could have went to. Why did you get right beside me? I don't know. I'm also the guy that might go up to a urinal if there's like four or five year and a lego right to the next one where the guy is standing, just to make it awkward for him. Arma it happens that a movie. Though. I'm going to take the family tomorrow and we're going to go watch Godzillan Kong the New Empire. So I am a huge gods allan nerd. If anyone can't tell from behind me up on my wall over here, I've got all the little figures. Ever. Sorry, I've got a tattoo in my arm of Godzila. So what was the god Silla? They were talking about the hollow Earth theory like they were really pushing that, and I can't remember which one. Yeah, it was God versus Kng And now the new one is the same thing. They're going back down to hollow Earth. That's kind of weird. Did you watch the Monarch show? I mean it was all about Hollow Earth. I thought it was an awesome show. Did you watch Did you watch Monarch before or after Minus one? I think before I watched Monarch, I watched mart when it came out, and I saw Minus one right before Christmas. Yeah, because they like like like had the revealed like some of the Monarch spoilers in Minus one. I don't know about that. You can't go against Godzila. Well, it was the the the Bikinia Toles scene where they nuked him, and they showed it in Minus one as well and explained how he came back after the blew that mine up in his face. So it's kind of like answering the question of each other. God That was such a good that's such a movie. Apparently the listeners didn't want to hear about Godzilla because we just lost, like fly home, that's too bad. I probably don't want to hear from me, to be honest. No, basically, uh with Jesse on here, I wanted to talk about something that I just learned this past weekend. I was at on Tuesday and Saturday, I did local UFO meeting groups and they had me be the guest speaker. Well, on Saturday, I was informed about something recently that happened kind of by me, but not too far from you either. Out by the Messinawa Reservoir, someone had seen what was apparently a shape of a human, like a tall black figure that they said look like a person in a trench coat. Now, if anyone knows me and they know about a weird black shape with no arms whatever walking in the road, that's kind of very similar to what I saw years ago. But when the lady said she got up to this, apparently it wasn't wearing a cloak. It went like this and its arms came out, but it also what was wrapped around it was wings, and it unfolded like it was a humanoid with wings, and it just took off, flying overhead. So that's weird. And then I guess a week or so later, someone else in the same area, only about a mile or two away, saw something else similar. They were driving down the road and at the edge of the woods, they saw would look like a seven foot tall person standing at the edge of the road, and when they got closer to it, it just started lifting up and just kept lifting up, and then it just like flew off like a human flew away. I was like, what the hell is going on out here by this miss Cinewall Reservoir. So I told my kid and he wanted to go out monster hunting for it Saturday night. So I said, he's gonna be live bait. So we I got my buddy and we drove out there and drove around, and all we saw was a bunch of deer, and then we did come up on two kids, two teenage boys that were a partaking in the finer things of life. I believe they tried to turn around the middle road and they drove down too far in the ditch and got stuck. So my truck has a construction lights on. As I flipped my lights on, and you can see the terror in their face. So I think they thought about the police. But we pushed them out and got them out of there, like next time, be safe, guys, careful out there, like we've all done this hot in this area, but don't get stuck. But I guess I could have used them for live bait. I guess to see if the gargoyle or the moth man or what you could have just pull pulled back to a reasonable distance and watch, yeah, oh they're stuck out here, let's see what happens. I feel like you should go few more times instead of just once. You know, maybe it was just like a time for it to feed or whatever the hell it does. I did realize that there's about ten million deer that live out there, because every five seconds we kept seeing eyeballs and I was like, oh, deer, deer, another deer. But the description that these ladies had given I was like, I don't tell you how you could use a deer for a winging humanoid, And I was thinking maybe like a big owl because I've been out there before years ago. It was hilarious. We came across on moving at the edge of the road. It was a live raccoon fighting an owl. The owl was trying to pick up the raccoon. Is that what they were? A flatwood monster was? I don't remember what they said that thing was, but the description of it makes no sense. And I had my shirt on, had it on there while ago, but you know they put in the tree and Jay Allen Hammick's hemicked on him. It was an owl. Yeah, I don't go if it had red eyes. They didn't describe I didn't hear it from the ladies firsthand. I heard it from someone else who heard it from two separate people. I'm supposed to actually talk to that guy in an interview here in a couple of weeks. So when I do interview him, I'm going to bring up more about it to see if he knows more in detail about what was going on with it. Well, I've seen the shadow things, but whenever they take up, they take off in the oukward direction. It's always been really fast, and I have many witnesses there when we've seen them in a play, you know, a whole bunch of them all at once doing very weird things. But I could imagine that if they were to move slow, they would probably look like a winged humanoid. And who's to say that they don't. The first thing I thought was, like everyone else, mothman. But it's strange because when I took my buddy out and we were going out looking, he told us about his friend. And I don't remember what year he said this was, or how long ago or anything about it, but he said that. So I was telling him what was told to me as we're driving out there. He said his friend told him him and his wife were coming back one night driving out in that same area, and they saw something on the road eating roadkill, like over on the side of eating a deer. But when they drove by, it lifted up and looked like a person, and then it flew off. They called it a gargoyle. It was like, oh, I never put two and two together, like gargoyle or whatever. But that's three different people that supposedly had seen something out in around this area. That's interesting, at least enough to me to pique my curiosity. I was asking this week if anybody saw him alf Man in Baltimore. Yeah. I heard that too, because of the whole bridge thing. Yeah, first thing I thought, wake up number thirty seven. Yeah, there was some serious sun activity that day, and it kind of correlates to how our directed energy weapons can be used. When I say are, I don't just mean our government. It's an international deal. And yeah, so that could have very easily been targeted. Yeah. The first thing I said, does anybody have eyes on Richard Gear? Hundreds of thousands of tons? That were hundreds of tons, the guy that actually wrote the Mothman prophecies or whatever. The movie itself was more embellished than his actual book, though, wasn't. It was totally way off they read the book or anything. They put the injured cold character as Mothman and no one told him to do that. Does It's not actually how it went down. I like the movie, but I didn't think it actually met up to the actual story in college. Did they even show that creature in the movie. It's been so long. They did for a brief second, and like, oh yeah, him on the phone. I just remember the chapstick thing like, yeah, looks in my hand chat stick. I'm Michael yep No. I wanted the move when it came out. It was a good movie, but I didn't think it had anything to do with the actual lore I think you attributed. They didn't even attribute Mouthman to the bridge until afterwards someone years ago. I've seen it that they've seen supposedly flying humanoids around Chernobyl when that ship went down. That was like the rumors that I've seen floating around as people were seeing flying winging humans before the meltdown. It's clear that our view of cause and effect or is not the correct view of cause and effect. If anything has predetermined knowledge of things, if they're predetermined, then whatever it must be must be interdimensional and must come to us from a place that sees things outside of our view of time. That's kind of lean. How would you think you would even study that in any realm, like right now with our technology study something sees views like that because it feels like you just couldn't do it. Oh well, they are with the subatomic particles and mathematics we are. That's not with something we can get off Amazon though, like a flear like a fleer and like a flashlight. You can't do it well. Everything they've done since the at late fifties early sixties has involved technology. They've understood the plasma physics long before. It's a big deal now. But you can't do any of even getting to the moon. You can't do any of what they have done or claimed they've done without understanding that stuff. The Moon's to me, is a rabbit hole that out for like going down tonight. I don't understand how we went to the Moon and then we destroyed the technology and then we haven't been back to the Moon because we didn't want it to fall into the wrong hands. I mean, that just sounds like horseshit to me. But it was it was just rockets. It wasn't even that good of technology. I live where they built the stuff. I can go see all that within five minutes from where houses the apollow, the rocket center and everything. It's just not it doesn't feel like it's that advanced technology that they couldn't just make again. I feel like there's a reason we're not going back, and I think that reason is h three. I think that's why they killed it, cause a big oil I think that's why they killed Apollo. Well, I think that maybe that does have a lot to do with it. But we we never we don't understand what going to the moon means. Leaving our atmosphere is an deir experience, it's not. It's not taking them body through the Van Allen radiation belt. It's it's something other than our physical understanding of matter. I bet it's a trip Paul eighteen. That was a great movie, underrated, which is why if you confront the people who went there, most of them don't laugh. They get violently aggravated about it, like, yeah, it's a deeply uh, it is a deeply changing experience. It can't be challenged. It was Aldron off the deep said it's still cool, and he went but he has no he has no chill rememb when he punched a Hippi in the face. Yeah, they didn't pick psychologically stable people, and that it was clean that they picked the fittest mentally and physically that they could find in the country. Evidence is not supporting that Isn't it funny that they managed to pull it off on their first try, and they were able to leave the moving and dock back into the thing. Make it all the way back on their first try. I mean they went, they went a bunch of times circling. They circled it six or eight times, and it was the one the guy that practiced the landing but didn't do it. They put just enough fuel on it that he could do the practice room but not land because I didn't want him to just go like, fuck it, I'm landing on the moon. He had like ten seconds left before we had to pull back, or he would have tried it. That's why they limited his fuel. That was like Apollo ten. I just don't feel like it they actually made it. I feel like it's all been studioed. That touches on the geopolitics thing. It was. You notice nobody tried to do anything after we got there. It's like nobody wants to be the second on the moon. The flag is not defended, you can just rip it up. Yeah, That's that's why it makes you wonder why we never went back. They must have been boring, like, ah, this is it. Maybe they found what was living on the Dark Side of the Moon or Scary Pink's Floyd hanging out there. What was that movie? I think Apollo eighteen or something like that where the rocks were the rocks were alive. Yeah, as they say, like only what less than ten percent of the ocean has been explored, but we don't want to do that. And I'm like, this gotta you know you've see the Abyss, Like that's an interesting movie. It's like, that's an interesting concept. Maybe there is stuff down there. I don't know. The Abyss is elite level movies. A lot of people. The amount of people that don't know about it is insane because it's better than anything that's came out. It's pre recently. It holds up, so yeah, it I don't know how the technology holds up, but it does. It feels like it was made recently. Oh yeah, and it could be in black and white and be just as good. It was a James Cameron movie, wasn't it. Dude always has like some of the most advanced movies. For some reason. I think he's a double. It's like, you can watch the Thing with Kurt Russell and you're just like, man, this is terrifying. You can watch it. You can watch it every day for a month and never in fine. Some of the New Week's time and the way it starts off with you watching that dog get shot at, Like, what's he shooting the dog for you? Oh? That's why so munch. I mean, I mean there was some kind of interesting thing about the whole movie, because then they end up finding the ship. They're an Antarctica and they find a ship there that crashed and you know, they took it out of the ice, and it's like Antarctica has got all those weird secrets apparently, so it's like kind of interesting out correlate. It's to the real life mysteries of Antarctica. Supposedly, I've got something here I'll put up on the screen. I don't know if he'll show it all. It's a long one something by Coyote. I can't read. M hm, big boy. What's a big boy? Oh? Big well? Dog kind of dog? Dog's name is a big boy? I don't know. I'm partial to the strange Canines for my own selfish reasons. That Horizon was a crazy movie too. Apparently there was an unrated version of that that ever came out. But it's like, really a fucked up movie. I have even more fed up than what it is, right, didn't they? Yeah, it didn't like the ship was alive because it went to different dimensions and then mm hmm it went to a different dimension. It wasn't like supposed to be like hell yeah, it's layered like the Inferno. It's a it's it's a brilliant pace. It really is great. Mm hmmm. I have to watch it again some time for it's one of those elite ones. And some people I all didn't like it. I bet you didn't. You didn't understand it. Yeah, it's like people that don't like Once upon a time in Hollywood. That movie changed my life. Uneducated swine. Yeah, peasants mentioned you mentioned Antarctica. Yeah, I think that. Yeah, in the Hollow Earth as well. That's kind of related. There's a i think in four dimensional space time or in the space time dimensions where it stabilizes, which four is the easiest for us to understand? Uh, it will The Earth is most accurately represented as a donut. Donuts, Ye, eat it? Simpsons called it again, Simpsons did it? Yeah? That is interesting all the Simpsons, you know, the ties into real life, like what you know, where did what happen? Greg? Oh? The Yeah, I'm not sure I have a picture of big Boy right here. Yeah. The Big Boy Restaurant. Yeah, those those still exist. I don't know. I think there's a couple of my favorite radio station down here. Found one for free a few years ago when I was in college. I went and stood decide and took a picture and it's what's back there. Because they inspired me to change my major to telecommunications, so I kind of like I gotta dedicate things to them there once in a while. I'm I'm almost jealous because you know, I've never seen a back to the subject. I've never seen anything like creepy or scary, and it's like I'm always looking now since like you know, Brandon started to show, because I'm always like looking, but I always see deer, dead animals in the side of road, but never anything cool or I don't know. It's fascinating because you know, if you're on the late night if you see dog man, run that motherfucker over for me, well, I don't know, nobody's ever ran over a dog man, so it might be the first. Yeah, I hit him, Yeah, it would be my luck to hit in my new car. But no, it's it's fascinating that I've never seen any kind of creature like that, like ever you ever seen Exists where he hits the big Foot with this jeep. That's the guy from a Witch. I had him on my show. He was amazing. No shit, yeah, Eduardo Sanchez. I just like that's one of those like we were talking about how did you get him? I don't know. I just asked him. It's like he's like, yeah, man, he was amazing. And we talked about, you know, he did Exist, which is a big Foot movie, and of course we're gonna I'm gonna as him about Patterson Gimblin and he said, there's no way. It was like, there's no way they can make a suit that complicated in the sixties. When he's sitting there in twenty fourteen making like a Halloween costume looking suit, it still stands a test of time. If anyone's watched that video and they've stabilized and they've done all this stuff, and you can see that it was females of that breast. You can see the muscles and its legs moving. That is a very very high tech function costume for the nineteen sixties, and it's never been like been replicated. People have come forward and said, yeah, I made that costume, and then you watch what they've shown is what they made it to be, and it looks nothing like it. Yeah, that that gorilla head guy he's holding what is that? It's I've never seen a bigfoot, but for some reason, I feel like if there is something out there, they caught it on camera back then, and I know they claim that it was all a hoax, and the guy that filmed it said it was a hoax on his deathbeds, Like, I don't believe that's true because Bobs talked about it anymore. Bob Giblin. Yeah, Bob Giblin still is alive and still says he had nothing to do with it. And it's not like he goes around and makes a bunch of money off of it. He's not rich. No. I actually been wanting to get him on the show, and I don't know how to do go about getting in contact with him. He's like the godfather of Sasquatch at this point. Yeah, it's it's almost been doing so much that it's not worth having him. At some point. You don't want to get anything new out of him. It's not so much for the newness, it's just the fact that I got to the guy. I know why I know why you want him, don't. You don't have to explain yourself to me. I'm just saying it feels like just to say you had him, Like maybe it's like we're talking about. It's not the family. We're talking about the famous video where he's just walking right, Yeah, he walks and looks back from the sixties. There. They've never been able to replicate that. And like when they've enhanced the video with modern technology, you can see that it has breast and you can do and you can see like the muscles in its leg and you can see the break in its foot. I have to actually watch that. Huh again, it's pretty intense. Huh. You want to stir some folks up, just post a video about it. Hm. That is, if you want to stir some ship up, go on a Reddit. I've already done that. Today someone someone went on this big, long rant about how dog men don't make a sound, and they got all authoritative on it. They don't do this, they're only five foot six, and like they went, I was like I said, well, I said, for the last seventeen years, I've always wondered I didn't really believe I actually saw a dog man so thank you for setting me straight. I can sleep easily tonight. Thank you for doing the Lord's work, fucking idiot, because it makes no noise. Hell, I hate when people act like they're experts about cryptids, about things that you can't improve exist, but there they know everything about them. It's like, really, how the hell do you know everything about something that you can't improve exist. There's no bodies, there's no science behind it. It's your guess work. People love the apors love it too. People that swear it's a G grade eight it's just not been found, they'll down that hill just as hard as anybody else will. I like that, even if it's like they're kind of like this, you know, really really that was like, now go down into the Bigfoot realm. You have your sides that are Russian blood ape and you have your woo woo side where it's people that say, uh, there's more to them supernatural elements. I'm on both sides, by the way, cater to both pandering, so I do sometimes that you gotta do in the podcast world. I love talking to the biologists and stuff, though, well, I'm sure you wouldn't take a biological form if you didn't have a biology. Mm hmm. In my opinion, I don't know of any kind of animatronics alien created or US created. They can do that. Yeah, but there are dogs that can't look you in the eye. Yeah. That blows my mind that your story there had to make me rethink a whole lot of things I did not. I do not get that. I don't. I don't know. It's to this day. It's one of those things. It's like, this can't be real. It has to be having some sort of an explanation. But it's here. I am seventeen years later. I'm doing a fucking podcast. I'm talking about shit. So it's like I don't know what was supposed to happen. That's what other people say, are here for a reason, and this is the reason. I was like, what to sit around on a Thursday night and talk about stuff that we'll never know about. You're now zero degrees from Bobby Dizzel, So your mission is accomplished. Welcome to the big show. My life is now complete. You're coming with me to the top to the moon, as they say in the dose coin world. Huh, I know, I know, up yeah, up in Michigan like way close to like the upper prenusula, like like there's big foot stuff everywhere. It's almost like they kind of making a joke about it, but there's so much vastness up there that and some brand and how like some areas are like when I said, they have signs where they say like they're like a guarded or I can't think of the word, it's been a long day, but basically signs how you're not supposed to cross in there. It's been like protected. But why it's like I wonder what's over there. Not that I walk in those areas, but it's kind of interesting how you see that sign and everywhere those signs up there a lot like don't bother the nature or what's behind those signs. So I kind of believe it he's probably up there hiding he or she whatever. When you go out into the wilderness and you look around and you start to see of vastness, you can understand why people think that something like that could be living out there, because, like you just said, you go into these forests and national parks and everything, there's specific areas they turn into national parks and I'm not going to say the missing four one one is one hundred percent accurate because I've heard a lot of weird stories about David Plaidi's and he'll probably sue me. So it is what it is. Oh so I have nothing to do with it. I'm just going to edit all that out and put it over and your mouth's the one saying it. Maybe they'll follow me, but no. Basically they've been able to track like all the strange disappearances in national parks, and there's more disappearances around the cave systems. And if you look at where all these things are, there's also a lot of weird cryptid sightings along these same pathways where people disappear. And there's also a lot of cave systems. So what if the caves and the forest and the reason they choose these areas and protect them as all because they know what the hell is living in these areas. Yes, they almost overlay each other. No, if you put down the maps, if you put down the maps and look at it and overlay each other each layer, it all lines up. It just goes to show you just go to Nebraska, you're not going to get scooped up see a bigfoot and won't see it. Won't fall in a hole. No, you just get children of the fucking corn. It's a fire out of space. It's another realm. I just wonder if there's like caverns, not like you know, God's lilla verses calling asks caverns, but giant ones that we just haven't found yet, and that's where maybe they can clip down there somehow and you know, like Klong would fall and then all of a sudden he's reverted and he's falling down. Yeah, we've been where so many thousands of people see somebody just walk into the side of the hill and when they investigate, they can't find a hole that they went into. As just talking to somebody on Reddit the other day who had seen that. I saw somebody walk up the hill and then not come down it. I don't know where they went. I think I've talked about this before. When you get into these hills and everything else, these mountain ranges, hey, Ernie, hi Ernie. When you go into these mountain ranges and everything else, there are a lot of strange sightings. And it's not so much just like Bigfoot or typical, but there's the strange humanoids. And people want to say rake Rake is a creepy pasta, but I believe they're based off of sightings, like you have your pale crawlers, and you also have depictions of windogoes, like the original windogoes were based off of spirits or whatever, but their descriptions are pale, humanoid, skinny creatures. People are seeing that very description. And the movie The Descent, I think I've talked about this maybe on the last live stream, but The Descent I almost feel like as a movie that was made to let people know what's actually in the gave systems because they look like pale yes. Interesting. People say goblins, Kentucky goblins, people say the Dover Demon. Like if you look at all the descriptions of all these things, they all have that same sort of appearance, almost like this little fucker back here, the little green guy. Like I'm not saying they're aliens. I'm not being Giorgio's Suculus or whatever his name is, but but it was, Yeah, I mean you look like that too. If you lived in a cave and didn't eat and didn't see something. Have you ever seen the fish that are in caves, like the fish that evolved in caves? Mm hmm, yeah, no eyes or yeah, they don't have eyes and they're white and they're scrawny, Like what if that fitness in biology is the attributes to anything that's grown in the cave, like you were saying, like the human version of those fish, those little gollumn things. I agree with the darkness thing, but when you look at the gray's body shape, I think that there's a low gravity situation going on there with either underwater or someplace else because the frail bone structure. But the darkness thing seems to be a definite contributor to their evolution darkness or our evolution. It is weird though, Like you'd think scientists would go and kind of find them, but nobody wants to touch that ship. I guess nobody wants to get funded. No university is gonna we have to have some kind of ron Bigelow mel Jigelow to come along and you know fund it's some elon Musk come along with a billion dollars and say I want to find Bigfoot and just pour all the money in the world into it. That's what's gonna happen. That's what happened. They don't want to find Bigfoot though. I don't think we have, and they don't want us to know about it. What if Bigfoot has already been found. Mh. They know about Bigfoot, but they don't want the public to know about Bigfoot because Bigfoot changes a lot of the narrative. That could be said for a lot of stuff we did convert from the apes tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago. It was much more recently. Perhaps there's that aspect, or there's the aspect that these are a higher intelligent being. Yeah, another realm kind of thing. It disproves a lot of the stuff that we're thought. It just proves the main money maker, which is religions. And I don't know how else to go into aout saying, like if you go down into this pathway, A lot of people use religion as a way to explain cryptids as nephlom. I don't necessarily think I was about to stay on what religion you could It may emphasize the religion. Yeah, you find out exactly what they really are, but there's just a lot of weird shit when it comes to these things that I don't feel like they're just flesh and blood, normal everyday creatures. I think there would be a body. If they were just a hit and ache, there would be a body, there would be evidence something of them, like you would be able to Why is it every time someone takes a picture of Bigfoot it's literally a blurry, freaking paradolia bush or something like that with a red story. Have you seen two things on that? Have you seen the Lost Coast Tapes Bigfoot movie? Yeah, fake one, but it's in between Willow Creek and exists, and every time they show with a big Foot, the camera goes anything goes back to normal. Like I thought that was an interesting interesting thing the h M. I had a theory that if these things are from a higher plane of reality, that their vibrations are different than ours, and that's why they look blurry, is because they're vibrating in at a different frequency. So when we can't pick them up because their vibrations and frequencies are different from our realms, so we don't get pictures of them. We just see the blurriness of them. That's why Patterson gimblin and that's why Patterson Gimlin got one with a spring loaded camera, no electronics. That's the reason the movie Nope explains it. I think they told us that they were just telling us how they how they did it. I never watched that movie yet. Well you need to well end this podcast now and then you go watch you go watch Nope on Reconvene. In two hours, there's Nope with the One in the Sky. Yeah, that's und that's mind blowing. Man. I loved it. I love so much. It was good. It's good. I'm like, holy hell for anybody. If anybody, I'll spoil one part because it's been here, But get what the program. Folks watch the movies the day they come out. I'm that kind of person. But like you know, at the end of it, like the whole big reveal was Couz. Couz built a camera, didn't know electronics. So we got he got the he got the money shot, he went into the kloaka mm hmmm, and so and and after it was over them, I did they just tell us how they got Patterson gim one like why it worked? This is what this was Hollywood? Yeah maybe no, I know it wasn't, but it was the same concept. I mean he had the same basic camera mechanically, I mean his was giant, you know, like a spool and Patterson Gimlin's like this, but it was the same thing. Like he couldn't get a picture of it because it would kill those little inflato droids or whatever they were called. And then the only way they can get a picture is with the mechanical winner that that wind up wishing well was at the at the end of it. She put a quarter in and wound it up, and you got a picture yourself looking down a well at Steven Yin's little park he made across the pasture. I kind of remember, no idea, it's been a minute. Yeah, yeah, that was That was like the end of it. Like what's her name, the lady, but like it was the kid in the parks would all look down in this well and they would and wind it up and it was not a picture, and that would be your take it home, put on the kind of remember that. Yeah, And that was like the end of it. She had that picture taken because it came across full frontal flying saucer pain klohaka, and it took it. She took it, and there she had it. Couldn't do anything about it. Now they got the picture that everyone else is just going to say it are yeah, yeah, it's just mid journey. Isn't that weird? Like somebody mentioned about interdimensional and it's like, okay, so how unfair is that other beings can come here, but can they see us? Is it the same thing? We don't know that, but like it's interesting. It's almost the tea's that they're able to jump between. But we're stuck on this like purgatory, which I call maybe maybe part of it, yeah, and maybe one of the uh uh, I don't even know. I'm trying to say, now whatever, keep sorry. We had some facility in moving between these as well, if we choose to develop it, and when you get to the other side, you can see how they how they would see us. Perhaps they wouldn't see us as physical bodies, but then again they don't focus on physical bodies. Yeah, it's there's it. We have some facility in traveling, but people always want to travel up and and people never explore down very much. Hmmm. I know, I was gonna say, maybe that's why whenever you try to manifest something, you know when you just think about it a lot, and that's the kind of communication you're you're you're inflicting. Is when you start start that kind of communication the other side kind of trickles down makes it happen. Oh so like like the force, like I want to I want an ice cream bar, and I try and manifest it, but it only shows. Yeah. So basically yeah, again a team law of attraction never got it. Law of attraction you're thinking of somebody and then they call that kind of thing. Mmm, well, yes, I believe in that. But most of the time people end up trying to tinker around with it and they end up doing it the exact opposite of what they intend to do because they haven't tuned their I don't know, we'll say enterdainment for a different word. You have to be very specific. It can get very it can get very gin if you're not careful, you get to be very specific gin. I like that. Yeah. I had a conversation actually earlier about how, you know, most children, child, whatever they have, they're in tune to everything else. You can see ghosts, you know, predict things, and then we lose that and it's like interesting to think, like, how would we be able to be keep that kind of power that we once had as a kid or a child, just to see ghosts and things that we're not supposed to see, Like, I don't know. That's to me is interesting how we lose that whatever that sixth sense. I don't think it's something we lose that we can keep. I think it's just our the development of our spirit, for lack of a better term, Like you're you're you know, you're kind of like pulling cheese away from a pizza. Like the the baby is like the right and when we pull it and it comes apart, and it can't once it gets far away from where it came from the internet mentioned part wherever the soul comes from, and it can't go it can't go back once it loses all its ties. But are we interesting? Are we tainted? Because I mean, is the world tainting us basically? From that being? I think we just grow out of it eventually. But it sounds so important, you know, Yeah, what's that? Just you? You frail and spiritually in the wind your entire life. You wouldn't be able to do the things they grown men and grown women need to do. Yeah, growing up to be honest, Well, the souls are on this earth to learn something. And if you're stuck in that ethereal plane as a baby who can still talk, to its past life. Then you're not gonna learning. You're not gonna learn anything. You have to go past the trial scene in the video game. That's all the first seven years are. You're learning the controls. You know you can't you know what I'm saying, Like, you're here for a reason. So basically that that sixth cent is worthless is what you're saying, so you can pay event I would love to have it. I would love to have it. If you're just focused on that, If you never came out of it and you were like a five year old with all your imaginary friends, your whole life record probably well. I mean I feel like I mean not just seeing ghosts, but like I feel like kids are more in tune with the with the earth, I would think, and it's like believe in magic. Well you know that's different, but like no, I don't know, but just like more like the spiritual thing. It's like I feel like the innocence that children have and that they appreciate the small things. I don't know, I just feel it. What's that you have to as you grow up? You have to build up that like an ossification, an outer layer, a facade that allows you to function and and but it doesn't mean I don't believe it is like the cheese beets. I think underneath you still have that inner child thing with this community thing. You can do it. You know, it takes a little getting to know yourself takes a little work. But mm hmm, I want to choose pizza, right, But yeah, it would be interesting to be able to tap into that sixth sense. So it would be I think a lot. And well they call it the third eye too. Then we get clouded by it, like you know, toxins and and maybe we're not supposed to go out of it. Maybe that's the floride part of it. Like before that there was the everybody had, you know, the tesla's of the world, and people can talk to spirits and now we don't hear anything. I mean at the other day and before I opened my eyes, I could see the entire room around me bathed in a blue light. And I can And it happens sometimes in that liminal state in between dream and wakings that you can see without your eyes, you can hear without your ears. There are things what's that called state? It came to sleep like a brainwave thing. Yeah, uh, setting state again to sleep. Yeah, that's whenever you can try to communicate. That's where people try to get their uh out of body experiences going. Yeah, I used to get I used to try that. I'd get to the spot where you start vibrating and I have wake up. I'd almost get it to happen. We woke up. Do you think traveled because I had to? Yeah. I was gonna say astral projection and dream states and everything else is kind of I've always wondered, like when you're having dreams or you're actually some of the dreams that are super vivid dreams, Are you're actually dreaming or are you traveling? That makes any sort of sense? Like my dreams are too weird, like just to that thought, like I don't know why I dreamt of that or if it actually happened, But yeah, you kind of wonder, but mine are too weird. So, my kid, this is what's funny. The other day I was at the I gave that talking at the local UFO meeting about my weird experience. Later that day, down the road, I think I sent you the photo ed the dog goes right down the street. Do you remember that the strange looking no I had some he had some weird eye. It looked like very similar to what I've always described. The dog thing obviously was not nearly as big. And then the very next day, out in my driveway, my parents are leaving, and there happens to be a mouse in my driveway and I ended up having to move it with my foot and put it in a bucket. I took it over and dumped it over in the side of the road. I don't remember this, and you didn't tell me about that the mouse was dying. I'm assuming today some of the poison way I've set out in the garage or whatever. But it's just the the timing of everything just was weird. Like I saw the strange dog in the right down the street, and then I seen this stupid mouth like it's my own fucking repeat. That's why I said, if you see a dog man walking around, running over for me, sure you know loop it's been seventeen years, and seventeen years before my stuff someone else seen something very similar in nineteen ninety. I seen my stuff in nineteen or in a two thousand and seven, and now seventeen years later would be twenty twenty four. Maybe dog man's cheaping like jeepers, creepers. I'm convinced though, Like your area, as you said, it's like in a valley, right, and it's the river and it's just like the Two Rivers. Yeah, and like when you're going down to Indy, that is the part I noticed the most. It's more kind of hilly like almost like a valley, and it's like, it's gotta be shit hidden here, it's gotta be. My whole area is from Miami Indian area, Like the Miami Indians were from here naturally, so it's like the tribes and everything else, like they were all through here. So there's a lot of Native American lore just in this area because you have the Two Rivers, you have the Miss Sinawall where all those weird activities going on. There's been sightings of all sorts of like weird canine stuff. And then not even just that obviously now winged people like what the hell's going on around here? That isn't that weird? That like Indian barrel ground or anything. Indian is always haunted, even though even the movies say this, it's like, no, it just seems to be like a natural phenomenon. Don't mess with Indian barrel grounds for some outer reason. You would think, you'd think as the white Man would learn not to take their land if they knew these things would happen. But we didn't find out until later that they really were cursed. Yeah, they knew where they were building. They knew where the good energies were, because the animals knew where the good energies were. These rivers are accumulators for atmosphere or we're going with energy, and sure, I wouldn't be surprised that you experience all sorts of enhanced paranormal like their activity because of that. That's a definitely interesting Well you just said, just because like you know how you know, there's this deer everywhere. I'm not I don't hunt deer, but they're they kind of have like they're in tune to something. I mean, as much as as stupid as you think they are when they run across the road and almost hit them, but like somehow they know, you know, all the creatures. It's just definitely interesting. They storm, they know when it's gonna rain for a long time. Yeah that I don't know. How when when it's gonna get really cold, they know? And I feel like sorry, the energy between the earth and the air. They practically fly, They're somewhere between mammal and bird. They're they're like token zelves. There's something different that's and I think I feel like that's what I mean by like what we lost as an innocent kid. We should be like kind of in tune as adults, but we're not. We're just kind of like fed into you know, we got to pay taxes, have a job. But I mean, I'm sure there's some people adults that are in tune to the earth that way, but I think I feel like we're supposed to be on the same plane as the animals, so to speak. But we've lost it. Find we've lost touch with nature terribly, and and we've became in touch with technology. As we sit here on technology in front of my Mac with the big screen, I'm Mac. So yeah, it's a it'd be interesting to be able to talk to animals and be like, where do we fuck up? Man? Where we fuck up at? Where do we go wrong? Right? Animals? But yeah, I've always wondered, like how do animals like they have that natural sense like they can since one of predators around, I had someone tell me the other day that they were out hunting out by actually in your area about my hunting and out by ceremony. They said they go out there all the time, coyote hunting. And he said, of all the years he's been out there, he's never once felt this way. But he was just completely overran with fear. And I don't remember. I don't think he left. I don't think he said he's been back there since, but like everything was like dead quiet, and just had that really terrified urge to get out of there. And I told him, I said, that's very typical to what you hear when there's either like a sasquat or a dog mat Like there's all sorts of things that I've heard relating to that, like if the woods go quiet, the animals know there's a predator around. So are they sensing him as the predator because he's walking around hunting or was there something else? Like you don't see it. It's hard to know, but I've been out there before and it do that gets dead to quiet for no reason. It's weird. I don't go in the woods anymore for my own personal reasons. I'd say, if you want to commune more with these things or get just regular animals. My tip would be to remember learn or remember how to think without words, because you got to be speaking the same language. True, there's a lot of knowledge behind that. I know you said you do dive into some esoteric things or whatever. What is a some of the things that you was researched or looked into or study. Oh. I started, as many teenagers do. I looked into some little wick and stuff which grat that you really led me to, you know, like the Golden Golden bought type stuff Alistair Crowley and Israel Regardi, and then checked out that sort of thing. Then found myself in Mason's Lodge one day and realized that they were doing exactly the same thing, And then started to look into how many organizations around the world are doing exactly the same thing, and how the same symbols have been found everywhere from New temples to Nazi superstructures. I mean everything is nothing has ever to Washington, d C. There's an intelligence behind the design of the world that's been there from the beginning. It appears, and a lot of people want to call it negative. There's a few people out there that want to call it good. I think when you look at the unless you want to take the hard line Christian approach that everything here is bad, then you have to take a little bit more nuanced approach into investigating what it is, what its powers are. And you know, I've I've always kind of maintained that openness from when I was a kid. So I have to be very careful what I even read because it's a lot of it will manifest almost instantly. So yeah, yeah, I'm very interested in that sort of thing. And I've got some tales on what the ancient forces might be. But I'm rambling. Sorry, no, no, that was a good ramble. Yeah. My kids were fighting, so I was listening to you and trying not to get angry. Jesse, tell me more about the ancient ones, Jesse, before Chen, the ancient ones, And I mean, you can watch the migration of spiritual culture coming up out of India and all the way around the Lower Coast and then the west coast of Europe up into Ireland where and then it settles in some parts of Germany and Russia. And there's pockets of that spirituality battling a very public battle against pockets of Western spirituality. Right now, people think it's about a whole bunch of other things, and it is, but those people are playing on a lower level. The high forces are two major spiritual camps. I've been really big in the Angel numbers and that law of attraction stuff lately. I think there's a lot to that if you pay attention and don't get too crazy with it. Yeah, numerology is very interesting, but I think that we should have been on more of a base twelve system adjusted by a certain fraction and then things start to fall into place without taking our physical dimension and putting it into six or twenty four dimensions. I mean, we are mentioned in numbers. You're mentioned in numbers, and it made me think, ed, is you see? Not unless you see? But you always point out to me, send me stuff with number seventeen seventeen. It seems to be like it occurs in a lot of things, like, Okay, recently the Boston is it Boston? What bridge is that? Baltimore Bridge? Seventeenth biggest bridge? I believe something like that. Let me look at it. Sorry, the damp text basically though, the like stuff in movies to the reference, they're on the seventeenth floor when something's going on or the Hangers and Hangers seventeen or like there's all sorts of things that like it seems weird that goes on. It's always seventeen. Well, okay, Baltimore ranks the top us. It's the seventeenth largest port. It's interesting. Why the hell it shows up in news articles. It's very strange. I can't understand it. But I don't know. That's why I say, yeah, I think there's a it shows up in a Marble movie. I don't know if you guys watch those movies. But like Iron Man had ordered the Spider Man Special Suit number seventeen unlocked that special suit that Spider Man gets to go to space. Like interesting, that number showed up in the Last of Us when that lady had a little commune and she had a prisoner in a certain so gonna sell what number was it? Seventeen? I'm like, what the fuck is with this number? I don't know it's it'll show up a lot, and I don't understand why. I feel like I started knowing Jim Carrey. Yeah, the Jim Carrey thing with the twenty three twenty three. Yeah, like that's look at it that way, but not that, not like deep down that mathematical equation like he did in the movie. But like that number occurs a lot in movies and news articles, there is a go ahead. Something is speaking to you there, and when you finally figure out what that seventeen is, that it'll just jump to another number. Have you google? Have you googled like Suzanne sunscribes and seeing what it meant to you? Well, I have an idea, but like I don't. It depends who's around. Yeah, I have sort of an idea, but I'm not one of those people. So well, I don't know. If I'm not he should be. I mean, it's it's it's true. If you start trusting you, if you start trusting those things, you'll start seeing a lot more different situations. I have a guess coming on here in the next couple of weeks that I'm excited to talk to. He has done a lot of extensive research about the thirty third Parallel, and there's a lot of weird stuff that has happened on the thirty third Northern Parallel. And I've only heard him on like one other show before, so really looking forward to that one because I think it'll be interesting when people hear all the stuff that he's managed to find out about it, at least from his own research. There's a lot of different things. When you mentioned like the numerology or whatever I was trying to think, I was like, well, seventeen thirty three, like now it was like seventies, said that's thirty four, Like that's still pretty close. So I've had a theory that their two companion facilities to the heart facility, one called Smack and one called Hammer, and I suspect one of them should be located in the American Southwest along the thirty third parallel. So if you could ask an expert about that, I'd be very curious. I'll tune in to find out. Well, I know just the bits and pieces, like Dallas lies along that at and the whole Kennedy assassination was in Dallas. This is in the one seventeen minute and then uh where we dropped the bombs in Japan just so happened to be in that parallel. Like all sorts of these events, like stuff in the Middle East, it's going on is on that parallel. It's strange island. Yeah, if you look up, if you look up that thirty third parallel, you'll see where kind of even the outskirts of Skinwalker Ranch is right on the thirty third parallel thirty four parallel lines, So a lot of weird activity that runs through there. I'm pretty sure Hollywood and hollyweireds on the in the thirty third too, So nothing good comes from that number, as what we're saying at least, but the seventeen one is different. But like, yeah, thirty third third, Yeah, that's a whole different ballgame, you know. Like I said, I I have that schedule here for in a couple of weeks, he's going to come on here, and so anyone listening to this, because it'll most likely my plan is to drop this tomorrow out for all the actual listeners, So be on the lookout for that. Another thirty three for you, KKK eleven eleven eleven. I was trying to think of, I have a list here. The thirty third president was I think the one when they started founding the CIA and some of the other stuff too. Oh don't say those letters. Yeah, oh well, I'm already on their freaking watch list. Anyways, would like to hear some notable notable thirty third parallel facts. Sure you got a lagrange Georgia and Louisville, Georgia, Dallas Fort Worth, UH, Carolina s Salona Beach does come through Alabama's just south where I went down college and went through that city in Dallas. Nagasaki, there's that one. China just too damn big. Uh India Ghost. It passes just south of Bagdad. It goes through Jordan, Syria, it goes through everything, goes through Israel, all right, that's creepy. It's also the it's also the border of Arkansas and Louisiana. It's like the lace of the boot and they don't get along. So yeah, what about Texas? So it goes through Texas, It goes through Dallas Fort Worth. What about Hollywood, Yeah, it goes. It goes all the way to south southern California, just north of the Salona Beach. It doesn't go through Hollywood. It's really close though. I mean that's right northern tip of Saint Clemente Island. I think the Nagasaki one's kind of crazy. It goes to Hollywood and Nagasaki. Does it go through Hawaii? United States? No, Hawaii, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, losing in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California. Somebody just sent me serve guys. Sorry, tut you? How are you? Oh? I got a little inside information on that directed energy theory from Hawaii. MM dropped when I heard people walking around going why is everything blue? Left? Because I wasn't buying into anything right off the bat. But I worked with inks and something called an analox, and we use a high powered laser that burns the ink out of it. And the one color that the laser can't burn is blue blue. And your average person doesn't work with incinerating incinerating lasers, So I don't think they knew that. M I've heard that too. There was people painting their roofs and stuff blue before the fire has ever started. About the second tradition that blue paints heels evil spirits, I don't know if it's related or not. WHOA, Yeah, there's there's a lot of different uh rabbit holes when it comes to that stuff out there. Because I get mad when you see Oprah in the rock and all these other like rich million people, please help us send money. Why don't you send some of your own money? Why don't you have a lot more than all of us can right just starting one of your shitty movies and you just make it back. But I'm my friend just sent this to me. I wonder if you could see it. I mean, I'll read it off. But if you can't see it, oh, I guess you can't do that sucks so bad. The Francis Scott key Bridge stood for seventeen thousands, one hundred and seventy days. It's freaky. I don't like that at all. This is getting rid. Now you're going to see it and you're gonna unsee it. But it's not a bad thing. I don't know why. It's not like you know the other numbers you hear about. Seventeen is not my number, but seven's in a couple of my numbers, if you uh, And this is I'm I don't want to jump into the whole political drainage. But that is also the seventeenth letter is Q and I think a lot of people use that as a influence for their own agendas. But news, that's where I get my news in. I laugh because there is a countdown. There's a website and it's literally always a countdown and says I just got a notification A while ago because because for some reason, I get notifications about it because I looked at it on Twitter, so Twitter now thinks I need to know about it. Every time it makes a post, I get an email sent to me with a notification that this official Q page is updated. And it's always another count now, the end is here, and it's got like a five day count now, and then the next thing will pills. It's happening another count now, like it's been countdown for how many months now, like sixthing like that. I was like, this is literally just a clock, a countdown clock website, and people keep going to and they always comment under. Finally, people are starting to trash on it, saying like it's is pointless, it's stupid, nothing's happening. I can't work conspiracy theories anymore, right aside from aside from the weird ship like oh no that yeah, that number is just showing up on like news, you know, irregular old news feed. You can't say that C word literally will get your videos taken down. It became a little too real. Let's see the beast, Oh yeah, oh good times. It's funny how you go through like Facebook, like your memories and all the dumb ship I posted during that and how I just make it kind of. I didn't make fun of it necessarily, but I just like, this is dumb because I was an essential worker because I had the whole thing, which was great because everybody else shut down. So I got that cool like hot pass. I should have like framed it. Who wasn't considered an essential worker because I have I still have mine in my back man nice, I was essential. I never got to sit at home and collect money. I had to go to work. I always called it the I always called it the medelo malaria and the takati two step. Some weird you it was. It's weird when you look back on it. Some weird times. Apparently we're back to normal again, but I feel like normal. I don't know what normal is, but but I feel like people are still being jerks to each other, and like you would think, like then you'd kind of be grateful and gracious to everybody around you, but like moving back to our all sorry ways, like some lesson. I saw this on Twitter or not Twitter read it another cesspool in general. But I saw this on Reddit a while back, and it was actually compelling enough that made me read the whole thing. In twenty twelve, something catastrophic actually happened, and we do not realize it yet we're all still in because if you look at twenty twelve, remember that that was supposed to be like the end of the world, of my end calendar, all this other bullshit was supposed to happen in twenty twelve, nothing happened. Well, this theory that someone wrote out something did happen, and all of us, all of our energies, all of our spirits sold, We're still going on in life. We don't realize that we're still trapped here. That's why everything's getting bad because we're in those trials and tribulation eras. So everything's just going to continue to get worse and worse and worse because we're trapped in purgatory. I was like, cycle goes on in every life. Yeah, we're just trapped in like you just said, the cycle, Like we're still going on, but our world actually ended, but we're still here living and everything's just going to continue to get weirder and weirder and weirder because they blame that for happening. Because if you look from that twenty twelve and how weird life has gotten since then. The only thing holding it together was our And I don't think it's just twenty twelve. But there are these moments in history, these touch points, and the only thing holding it together sometimes is our shared consensus reality. And we isolate us all in our houses for a couple of years, and our shared consensus reality is breaking down. To your point earlier, why are people suddenly seeing all these things? Remember Rando knot during that time? Yeah, a little you ever get on that sucker? M hm hmm, that was fun. I used to love Rando nodding. One time I did a Rando knot. It took me to in the woods. It took me to a turtle. Oh that's the that little owl looking thing right. Yeah, it would always take me in a weird stuff. I still think I have the app, honestly, but I've never used it. The one time I tried to use it, it literally tried to take me to someone's backyards. I was like, well, I'm not getting arrested today, shout out. Sorry. Reading the questions there answers. Now, she's a clerk. She's a clerk. Yeah, I don't think you could be a massage. The press during the sea word, because you know you've not touched anybody, So by sea word, you don't mean the that sea word, you mean the the other bad sea word. Right. I guess two of them show up. There's the very rude, derogatory woman comment what's the word? And then there is a medical misinformation see word. Yeah, they get your flagged for dropping it for some reason. But like the twenty twelve thing, like I it happened, but I don't feel any different, like like a bit of personal thing, like I had like testicular cancer in like twenty eleven or something like that. So like anything after that I was okay with because I lived, you know, like but like to me, nothing changed. I was just like, ah, I survived that a's COVID. I don't know, I feel like personally, I didn't feel anything different happened during that. And one might argue, yeah, things are crazy, but I'm like it's always been crazy, but lately it's been crazier. So I don't know, like we've gotten worse as a society to each other. I think we've always been that way. Maybe we're just more aware of it because of like social media. Yeah, I think social media is expanding a time in twenty twelve. In my personal life, I think a lot of people that I would consider almost saintly left, and I consider it kind of a rapture year. I don't they just think about it in y'all's personal lives. I mean, where have all the saintly people gone? I don't think we have the everyone here now are people that still need work. Saintly as in like sanely or saintly saintly, the people that are just incredible, like good, good people. I would try and consider myself a good person, but I have I still have some really good friends in my life. Like considering unless you meant strangers, but once in a while you meet I don't know. I guess that's I have to think about that. Actually. I mean people with like no worldly attachments. I knew several and I don't know any anymore. Hm hmmm. I don't know if I knew any of those people, right, just not thinking about them mm hmm. Like Gandhi, Yeah, people like that, people who just like a shoe all kinds of physical attachments, don't even own hardly anything. Just to just blow through it. Now that you don't necessarily have to be like that, to be a spiritual person. But it's kind of obvious when the person reaches a certain level that they don't care about anything here. I've never met anybody like that ever in my life, I believe, unless they're just doing drugs and let's get everything away. But yeah, it's totally different, very fortunate. Okay, hippie the buzz Aldron punch, he was pretty seeley. I still can't figure it out. Why what was the hippie doing? I've never seen It's telling in the mood, it's telling the mood landing was fake. Has there been videos of buzz Aldron though, talking about how they saw some stuff when they were up there, Yeah, or the separate channel where they were talking about that they can see them only beyond the ridge kind of thing. Yeah, they talked about something and then I swear he has had an interview where he said that they could see something following them because they were flying, like there was something like stalking their ship off in the distance. Yeah, like beyond the ridge, you can see them something to say. He was drunk during that. And as for the transmission they picked up, they tried to say Ham radio operators faked that in the sixties, really did they fake that? I don't know where to go, like, I don't feel like we actually went to the moon. But then when you hear stuff like that, they're like, did they go there and something happened? They're like, oh shit, we can't go back to the moon. But they went back like ten more times, so they claim. And then back in the eighties, every kid wanted to be an astronaut. So what they do? He made everyone watch the Bace shuttle explode, and every kid was terrified and didn't want to be an astronaut anymore. That stupid space shuttle. I remember that what we all do because everybody had to like everybody knew about it, like kids, we're gonna watch this today, and like I wasn't interested in so it blew up, and then I'm like, is this real? I mean, I don't remember laughing as a kid, but I'm just like, that is pretty much embedded in your brain, watching explode. And then I was about two, so I don't really remember it. I'm old, but yeah, yeah, I remember hearing about it in school a lot, but yeah, it was I wasn't traumatized. I thought that was kind of cool. As a kid. But like obviously you didn't hear you didn't hear enough of it until I mean, that's all you heard, you know, And I remember that proof you heard teacher and they're like eighties haircut, you know, like of why everyone had to watch it because they had a teacher going to space. Yeah, yeah, I guess I know you heard this about how they didn't die until they hit the hit the world, I mean hit the water that don't impact on an explosion. That ship's wild, it's my favorite. And she has the name of of a song that's I mean, it's just all very weird. Can they have twins that are still alive? Oh yeah, the older older twins. I think that one of the previous episodes that just came out, Uh, they'd mentioned how on the shuttle crashed. They everything was burned up except for one picture to I D the person, the guy that was on there that was conveniently not burn up. We didn't burn up with the rest of the stuff when they crashed. It was like it's almost like the doas you know, the Big Apple burn the passports from when things like exploded and fell down, and like they found passports that didn't on top of the debris of people that were flying things. I was like, that's awful convenient, but you know, right, that's a whole rabbit hole on never, that's a whole Look at this video is getting taken down. I know, my favorite one on YouTube got tooken down. And I can show you where they screwed up, but it got tooken down. I'm like, damn it. That's one of the most famous videos of all time of it. And there's been a lot of scrubbing of the Internet, especially when it comes to YouTube. All Right, we'd those those shove ads up your ass, but they'll just take all the good shit down. I think that's the reason they're trying to ban TikTok, because everybody gets the real stuff from there. I have one hundred percent agree with that. I don't even use TikTok because I don't like shaking my butt, but you know, after a couple of weeks using it, you never see that stuff anymore. The algorithm kind of takes it away. I don't have anything about it. I posted one video from the first live stream that I did and it had like five views, and I was like, well, this sucks. I never used to take the only thing that bothers me about it. I don't know. Maybe maybe it's just me like watching a video of someone else watching a video and let's say, let's say this is the video and there's somebody talking on there and then they got the guy pointing at it, like like, I don't need your reaction to it. I just want to watch this thing. I don't know. Is that is that weird? I don't know. We start shaking it heyd, yes, yeah, like I don't care about you. I want to see the actual video. I don't know. I don't I find that weird. So sorry. I recently made a different Facebook account just so I could help promote this podcast, and I keep getting ads after ads. I have like almost fourteen hundred friends. Now, I was like, I can guarantee you ninety nine percent of these people have never heard of me or the podcast. But why do I keep getting all these friend requests? And majority of these people I don't think are real, So I have to scroll through and see if they're real or not. And I look for tales as most of them if they're asking for cash apps or they're having like weight loss things constantly being tagged in. I don't accept any of those, but now I'm starting to not accept the ones that literally have a post every two minutes, Like, like, those can't be real people because they're literally just posting, posting, posting, posting, posting, and they bot going on. It's also really creepy to add somebody that don't really know, Like I don't do that, I don't think. I mean, I guess in band relations some people just add people just to promote their band. But like, you know your podcast and you're getting friend requests, like and if you don't think they watch your note, who the hell they are? I think that's kind of weird anyway to I feel like, because I had that episode, the Jesus episode, recently, I've been getting a lot of recommendations from like Christian groups because all of a sudden, I've been getting a big wave of people posting Jesus saves like stuff constantly. I was like, I think the algorithm literally thinks because it sees what I post, so it thinks these people are gonna be interested in what I posted. So now they're suggesting that group. I was like, I'm not promoting Christianity right, And then now I've been getting a lot of left and right people. I'd go through. If you're literally if all of your posts are one hundred percent talking crap about one side or the other, you've already lost. Like at this point, it's like, I'm not gonna accept you're probably not even a real person. You're here to continue to divide and disrupt because you're just promoting every five seconds more hatred. But yeah, it's like it's ridiculous, like this one over heres for Agent Orange and how great he is blah blah blah. This one over here is for creepy Joe, how great he is blah blah, like and they're literally just constantly that you see the comments on that people are arguing with each other, like this is like the freaking nuthouse. Why do I want to be a friend with this and see it? So I just don't even accept it. But I didn't realize making a new account because my old account, I didn't really get any ads. I might get a person here or there, but I was like that's fine, but I didn't want my personal life always just out there for anyone to creep around and look into it. So I was like, I'm just gonna make a stepper one. Make it for my strictly for this go about my business, and I've got a lot of interviews set up from it already. Obviously Crystal was recommended. She's on here watching the night. As far as I know. If she's a bot, she's a really cool bot because she's interactive. Crystal. If you're not a bot, you have to subscribe to my channel to that's a that's the capture proof you're not a robot. Basically, it's weird because no matter what you do, everyone is being like I keep getting ads like if if a tenth of these people would go to listen to an episode, subscribe to my channel. My goal was to break into the top one percent at some point this year. Like that is my goal. I don't know if it'll ever happen, but like, that's my goal. It's like if I got all these thousands of friends that I have no idea who they are or how they even know me, but Facebook keeps suggesting me to people, go listen to my podcast, Go subscribe to my podcast, listen to an episode and you might enjoy it. If you hate it, that's cool too. I don't care like it is what it is. But why is Facebook promoting I've kind of cracked the algorithm. Like, if you don't post anything that's not leaving Facebook, or if it's a topic, if you write it vaguely enough, that is like what they think people are going to want to see, they share and make it more visible. But the moment you post something like oh, come watch this live stream on YouTube, be like, h fuck that guy he's preparing to yeah quick, So I don't know that's that's my uh thing. I thought about making a tinfoil hat and just wearing it tonight, so it kind of felt special, but I didn't want to do that. What was that? What was that algorithm cracking? What was that tip for everybody listening, post something that seems relevant to what's currently going on, but don't write a whole lot. You got to keep it under so many characters. Like one of my latest statuses, I was going live tonight, but I didn't say a live stream. I just said episode of Tenfoil Tells After Dark goes live tonight. I didn't so I didn't say a time or place or anything about it. A lot of people liked it, a lot of people didn't come on here and watch it. But a lot of people like it. And one of the posts I had about finding guests or whatever, it's got like over one hundred something comments. It's craziness. Like, I don't know what it like if you're I posted something up about not knowing these people, if you're really not that that thing blew up too. Like certain posts have been going good, but then when I try to promote my episode, like hey, a new episode's out, no, forget about it. Yeah. So if you post something like just like I post without trying to promote something, it seems to get more visibility than it does when you're trying to promote your stuff. So you got to be sneaky about it to beat the AI algorithms. And they don't want to see you promoting your stuff. Heaven forbid, they want you on the fakebook. It's all about the metaverse. Metaverse. I just want my brain implant already, just speed it up. It's my neural where's my ner? Just got one back to the future line? Yeah, a bunch of liars, hoverboard, three D Jaws, where's it at? Yeah? Well, AI is technically the three D Jaws in a way. I think the b that they were trying to give everybody is base layer upgrade, installing the new platform. I think for once there was actually something that some people could interbute as a positive intention, But what it certainly wasn't trying to do was beat that C word. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about for a second or something to talk about the V and the C and the yeah yeah I knew what he meant. Those are those are the no no words, yes yes? And the castration. Oh man, it would I remember those times because it was I don't I'm trying to remember at one point when it got worse, that it started like shutting things down on you. I feel like it might have been the first year, maybe a little bit after when I was doing a lot more like twenty twenty, right, but like I'm talking about, like the censorship of it, It could have been a few more months after maybe the next year there was just like even mentioned it. Just this is false information, blah blah blah. I know everything in advanced like Great ad Apocalypse they called it on YouTube. When that happened like September October of nineteen. You know, it's yeah, everything that I planned, they uh to my knowledge, I never got implanted, but that's that's me. I don't know they did. They did shove something up my nostrils, so they probably poked my brain or whatever. Yeah, the longest cotton swap I've ever seen. Really, government I called them the free governments mpons, those tampons. Yeah, they're they're awful. Both nostrils got jabbed. Jesus are you're poking my brain? What the fuck is going on? Recall m recall with that thing in his nose by it said same thing with the matrix and they shoved that thing and his belly. I got it. I got it and pulled it out. Yeah, sometimes life imitates our art imitates life, and sometimes we all just need to understand that we're all on the stage and we're just here for ships and giggles, I guess for something. Probably some grays watching us like the Truman Show right now, h I mean, like, yeah, that's right. When Earth was a reality show, Yeah, show me what you got that movie was? It definitely different though. This Truman Show, like the concept of it was pretty interesting, Like, oh my god, like they just making a fake world for this guy and he's living in like a movie set and he doesn't know watch movies like The Truman Show in Flat Club and Off of Space, it'll ruin your whole week. People use the Truman Show as a means of explaining flat Earth. I've seen it or that too. I mean, that's that's what. Yeah, they claim that show was a flat earther's show without being a flat earther show because they all live in a dome. It's a controlled environment and everything is staged. I was like, well, I guess if you go down that rabbit hole and sure makes sense or Plato's the Cave or anything. I mean, it's all the same thing, which is a really good thing for us to learn. We're just doing it all over again. Mm hmm. I actually had a conversation about but you just said the Plato's cave was someone at the UFO meeting I had last week, very intelligent guy, and he was explaining the different dimensions or whatever, basically like the cave of how we're all trying to get out of this cave. And the one thing that stood out the most, and he was an older gentleman, but he mentioned that basically we're here in the third dimension and the aliens from the fourth dimension are fucking with us exact words. I was like, okay, but he broke it all down and said, you basically, and I don't know how to articulate the way he did, but basically, you see puppets, and you see like the puppet masters or whatever. But basically, from our point of view, you don't see the person holding the puppet in our reality because that the puppet master's in a different reality. They're in a different dimensions. So we only see the puppets going on in life. We don't see the string pollers. And I always thought there had to be a direct intelligence related to the thing. Your dog Man's story was the thing that maybe because that thing didn't seem very smart, it makes me really think that. Yeah, that really opened my eyes to the fact that the intelligence and the puppet might be separate. Yeah, I guess I don't. I don't buy into the whole dog Man thing in general. Like I do know it's weird because I saw something weird, but I don't necessarily say it was dog Man. I've always said that it was an upright walking caneine. Yeah, so it's fair scientific, Yeah, like m possibly, but basically, uh, I don't know how to articulate it into like it's not rambling on. But when you see something that you can't explain, your mind tries to make up things to rationalize it or whatever. And I've always tried to come up with the most explainable version of what it could have been. And to me, it did not look like the stereotypical werewolf that you would see with hands and feet and so it literally just like a normal animal. But for some reason, I've never seen one walk like that, Like, it didn't a German shepherd onside legs kind of thing. Basically, it's like a black wolf. But you've seen dogs walk like this, like they hop around on their back legs. This thing's arms dropped to its sides like a person, and it was just standing there stairs. I mean, it started to kneel down and it walked off, but it was like in a crouch position, like a dog can't do that. Their bodies aren't made to do that. Nope, So what was it? Oh, you saw a dog man? I was like, what the hell is a dog man? There's nothing genetically possible for a dog man, So I don't know there's a possibility there's something out there, these chimeras and we don't ever find them because there's only one of them and they don't breed with anything. They're just a one off. That's a possibility. There's a lot of different sightings though, for just being one creature. That's my only thing. Like when people talk, even when people say Bigfoot exists, well, if bigfoot are real flesh and blood, they have to be a breeding population. Well, at some point, if there's a breeding population, they're going to get all inbredded because there's not very many of them, because you don't have that many reports of them. So if you go into that realm of science, bigfoot shouldn't exist at this point, they'd be extinct or damn near extinct because there's not that many. Yeah, at some point they've interbred with each other to where doesn't make any sense. But then you go back to evolution. If you believe in evolution, we've all evolved from certain things, or weren't they all inbreds at some point too? If you believe in the Bible, we all came from the same thing. Adamany if al Alaman, you've had two boys, well, one of the boys killed the other one and then like it just goes like where did it stop at at some point? If you believe in any of that, we're all inbreds in the first place. Like, so, I don't know how what came first a chicken or the egg chick, but Montauk Island experiments and the suppose made up there, yeah stuff, I don't know. Yeah. My thing when it comes back to dog men though, is there have been at least reports of them throughout history, a lot of them. You've had a Nubis, which was supposedly an upright walking god canine, dog headed man thing, wolf man, jackal, whatever you want to call it for agent Egyptian. Then you had Berserkers or whatever they're called, but the Vikings they were basically like wolf men type things. And then you had you're large, upright walking canines, and you're like throughout Eastern European civilizations had their tails of them, and then I think France at some point had the Werewolf Trials where they were burning people for being werewolves. Here you have dog men. Native Americans, like certain aspects to them, have their own stories of different weird canine type things. So it's all been around here. But what if they're all the same thing. Well, what are people seeing? Same thing with sasquatch? When you start looking into stuff like this. There's been reports of these type of things all over the world. Ancient tribes have had the same depictions, like the Native Americans all had the hairyman depictions and different names for them. Like they're seeing something, people are seeing something. Not everyone's crazy. I mean I might be crazy, but I still saw something like I don't know what it was. But so do you have a paradigm shift after you saw it or like quasi nervous breakdown? No, I just went to I went on about life. I just said it was a normal dog playing with a mouse. Oh you did. I believe that human beings have the ability to morph themselves to some extent, not like in a when the moon turned them, but more over a period of time, basically like a sell your soul to the devil sort of thing. I was previously had experience with the vampire where we'll phenomenon idea, and I fully believe that you can that you can sell your soul, twist yourself, have unnaturally long life, and become a distorted version of what a human once was. So who knows how many distorted versions there are out there. Mm hmm, like Snitch Twitch was that movie the dude changed into something? Switch? I don't know. Thank I'm in nut shymbalonpl Is it split split? Yeah? Sequel to Unbreakable? Oh like when he Yeah, that was a weird kind of spit that whole the end. I'm like, what in night shivel limit was Timothy there? Steroid person? I don't know, I don't know. It's weirdn't I don't really know much. I always saw it in the theater when I first came out and never seen it again. Like, didn't he climb up the wall? Yeah? He did change? He turned out superhuman powers? Like what the hell? I never saw for the glass or whatever? Yeah, I never watched that one. Unbreakable was it was great. It did not need a sequel. It was perfect. It's a perfect one off sci fi, the best kind of movie there is. I couldn't leave Well Enough alone. I liked Signs, Well, that was decent. Signs is like it signs up there with those movies and talk about earlier, yeah, Interstellar, Signs and take those you don't know those movies. Maybe Signs is going over my head. If you're saying it's up there with the others, maybe I need to give it a rewatch, you do. Signs is elite, A good movie in the sense of what the ending is kind of dumb, But I mean that was the last that's like one of the last good m Night movies to me was Signs. Like the other ones after that weren't that great. You don't like the village, take on him, not Shyamal, and nothing he does is awful, But your expectations were so far up that it makes it that way. I like every one of his movies is worth a watch. At the end, at the end, just what was that? But there there are a lot worse movies than I remember that one. Lady in the Water, Yeah, that was a weird one too. I didn't think it was bad, but it was very weird place. I was disappointed with the village. The ending, Yeah, but it was a twist, right. But when he fell into the pit and he's like, I don't know what he screamed it, Yeah, I don't know what. Wasn't that Joaquin Phoenix though Joaquin was the main person, but the one that fell in there was Adrian Broudy. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he was a special kid. Right. No, once the whole ending of the movie. I'm sorry to ruin it for anyone listening, but uh, anyone in two thousand and four that hasn't seen it. It's been twenty years at this point, like it's said in modern times. And when I found that out, I was like, really, this is freaking dumb. And then find out about the creatures weren't realized, Like, well, it's a stupid It was a cool twist. It was a crazy twist. I'm like, it was a crazy twist for just the sake of having a crazy twist. You know why you were mad, It's because of the trailers for it. I was mad the monsters weren't real. Yeah, because of the trailers are just like, what is that again? If y'all haven't read that, that's a great book. What is it Cat's Cradle? I'm actually, yeah, that's that's a brilliant book where the guy where these two guys try to oil spoiler alert. Two guys end up on an island and one sets up ahead of the government and bans the religion. One has it heads up the religion and and bans the government and keep perpetual power over the island that way. Huh. I'm sure that'll be a movie. I'm surprised that the rocking in it. That would make a good idea, that would make it good. Yeah, that would make a good movie. I'm surprised because pretty much every movie nowadays it was a book because nobody can think of a script by themsel then they don't use the book correctly. They're not as good as the book. Just world wars it and just pretend they do it doesn't exist, just to cover. They ever make a movie, they'll call it Ice nine and it'll look like one of those apocalyptics movies nearly two thousands with the ice sheet. Bs. Well, we've been getting to that two hour mark, so I think we could probably wrap this up. I know there's still a few people watching, so I want to say I appreciate you guys are sticking around listening to babbling. But before we go, there's a couple of things I want to talk about. Ed and I are going to be doing a podcast exclusively on the Patreon called Crinkled Conspiracies and Crinkle People. Crinkle, Well, you have tenfoil tells and what do you what does tenfoil do It crinkles, so it makes sense in that aspect. I've not talked about this publicly yet, So everyone listening, you're now encouraged more to go to the Patreon because we're going to start recording exclusive episodes on there for only one ninety nine a month. So here's my sales pitch, less than two dollars. You can't even go buy a drink at the gas station more for less than two dollars. So you can go and help get ad free content and all that other good stuff and exclusive stuff like crinkled conspiracies, which we will not have to worry about the things we talk about getting pulled down because it is on Patreon and we're going to dive into some stuff that we can't always just talk about. Do you guessed? I would love to. I have not thought about bringing on guests, but it isn't the possibility. I'm I'm not doing exclusive epods, like, I'm not doing episodes where I interview guests and then just put them like some people who are members only stuff. I think that's a kind of a shitty shitty thing to do, especially when we have a guest coming on, like sorry out there the guys making bunches of money, But I'm not about the money. It's just if I wanted money, i'd ask for more than a dollar ninety nine a month because after they take their cutup basically getting jack ship for it. I mean, it's not I don't do this for money. And but basically I don't feel it's right to have guests come on there and hide their episode of kind a payball. So that might burn bridges with people, but that's my own personal opinions there. Yeah, there's a lot of gatekeeping. I found out in this podcasting community, and some of these other people want to be it's almost like band stuff ed, and I can relate to that. There's a lot of gatekeeping when it comes to certain aspects. When you play music, there's a lot of gatekeeper when you do podcasting. There's a lot of gatekeeping everywhere. So it's just a fact of life. I do believe in the car, even in the car. Yeah, when I had that Camaro and I'd go to car meets. Yeah, that's ship. Yeah wow. Anyway, everywhere you goes someone thinks they have to be better than the next person. I just do my own stuff. But no, if you want to get on some crinkle conspiracies and drop the cuffs and shoot some ship, I'm sure we can get that arranged. We're not going to do very long episodes though. I figured we'd just cut like trying to do like thirty minute episodes here and there, kind of keep up on like a current events type thing almost maybe like a weekly event wrap up release someone like a Sunday night, here's your weekly news from I'm about doing like a like a like a talk show tonight show esque format like that this week, this week on the veil like that this week and the weird ship like this episode. Sorry, I would say this week's episode, we'd dive into the whole Baltimore thing. Oh yeah, so are these are these two on your show? I'm pointing at both their guests. Oh, they just showed up. Yeah, that's it, say suggests. It's from Indiana. I wanted to hear more of his stuff. I thought he was gonna be on your show. We can actually have a setup where Jess can have his own exclusive episode. I just asked. I just asked for him to hop on here tonight because Okay, when I was trying to get things schedules. This was as soon as I could gid him on here because I'd already had things schedule. Was like, hop on the live session. We can, But these live sessions aren't set up to be like normal episodes like I thought they would be. It's more or less kind of a free fall, see I did. I started doing my regular podcasts and recording them and then releasing them, and after a year or so, I started doing lives and I lost the whole nature of what I wanted to do. I ended up just reading comments for an hour and a half. So now now I'll stop doing lives so I can get back to editing and talking to people exclusively one on one. You know, cigar smoke in a dark room or I don't have to edit anything. I just released it. I don't give a ship. Well, sometimes sometimes I go to the bathroom and it has to be taken out. Now it'll always take the camera with me. Ed and I did another show together called Dark Side of the Scene, where we interviewed bands, and that shows pretty much died off because of some of the content that got put out there, which had nothing to do with anything. And we got black Bald from we don't know if it was that. We don't really know. It's just the timing. The timing was convenient or it's just like anything, it's like it just dies down and you know, it's like the scene it died. But I still got a few people asking me about it. But they didn't even promote the fucking episode when they came on there, Like, hey, if we get on your show, but we're never going to promote that we came on there. Okay, yeah, just like they don't promote their shows are playing. Yeah, but anyways, Bobby, why don't you let everyone know where they can find you? Oh yeah, Bobby diizzle dot com. I'm the Caffeinated Cryptid. I've got it on. The podcast is called the Caffeinated Crypto Podcast with because it used to be the Bobby Diesel Podcast and the format change. That's what's happened. That's why it's weird. I'll change it one day, but not now. But I talk a lot of Bigfoot, a lot of aliens, a lot of scientists, a lot of biologists. That's real fun. Bobbydesel dot com hit me up and Jesse, I know you have your Heartland Harbor Homestead. I don't know a whole lot about I know you got your Facebook page or whatever, but I don't know a whole lot about what it is you do there. Yeah, we don't have a lot of digital presence right now, just the Facebook page. And my wife has an art store at Sweet Jim art On Store. And me she does watercolors. I do. I manage the land mostly. I've got we do jams and jellies and berries and herbs and tinctures and you know, Indian medicine plants and you know, we well, we don't want to get in any legal trouble. If you had a problem, we'll talk one on one and we'll yap storted out. That's the easy, that's the most swave waver. Anybody say that. And Ed, I'm gonna follow you. Ed. You want to let everyone know where they can check you out at. I know I don't have anything. I have a band you can plug. Yeah, but that's not that's totally unrelated. I think it's totally unrelated. Yeah, I don't see how that matters. I'm just a dude. But no, Ed and I, like I said, we had dark side of the scene. Ed was the first guest that was on episode one, and we had a banded episode and now he's going to be on an upcoming episode here in a couple of weeks from Oh yeah, I guess I have been on this technically been on your show in a way. The conspiracy episode with Briam, we did a little segment. Yeah, how the weather's all fucked up now? Everything was on fire back in the very cold march. We have a very cold March. But it could be just because it's India. I don't know, it's You've been on this podcast more than anyone, so you're really that's true. But I have nothing to promote other than that to have a big mouth. You can can promote the crinkled conspiracies for everyone else. Yeah that's yeah, okay, yeah, But like Brandon said, we're gonna if you pay that dollar, was it ninety nine? Right, you'll get to hear me like unfiltered and how I think of certain things and certain conspiracies or topics, because you know, normally you'd get banned for saying whatever, and it's not like and maybe you might be on the same page as me, maybe or not. I mean, that's up for debate. It doesn't matter. Maybe you get feedback on this Patreon episodes, that'd be cool if you listen to him, pay and then give feedback, because feedback is always good for any show. There is a free membership too, and I do have some episodes available for free and they will be add free. So if anyone hates ads, which don't really know why everyone gets so mad about hearing a couple of dynamic ads and started here and there, but for some reason it has a very hot topic with people that hate that. I was like, you can just hit the skip button and it goes away. But learning things tonight, folks. Spotify used to have a big problem with the ads. It would cut the cut the whole episode off and restart the next one. It was a bug for a while. You'd be listening to a rogan, it would play an ad and then at the the internet signal wasn't strong enough, it would try to try to find the next thing to play and play the next episode, so you lose your spot like an hour and a half in m hmm. Like I said, I never really listened to podcasts, so I don't know a whole lot about like it. There's only like three or four podcasts that I ever really listened to and I still listen to them. But other than that, podcasts stand up with me. Let everyone out there again, No, I appreciate you guys. If you enjoyed this, make sure to check out Bobby's website. Make sure check out Jesse's stuff MHM, make sure to check out Yeah follow Jesse, make sure to check out Ed's Crinkled Conspiracies with me on the Patreon, and good night everyone, good night peace ka