Tinfoil Tales: After Dark - Ep. 4

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that. The hypocrisy of the colt is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most where the eyes were going red. I see in the work of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing. I don't like death. Welcome back to ten, Foil tells after dark. See, there's a few people already been here waiting, so that's pretty cool. That's going to be an interesting show. I've got a few pro wrestling fans in here, so I'm sure we'll not talk about just paranormal stuff. I'm sure we're going to talk about some body slams and some supplexes and all sorts of fun stuff tonight. But before we bring everyone on. I just want to say thanks to everyone out there watching. Thanks for everyone listening. It's been a pleasure, and I do have some things I want to talk about before we jump into this. There is some cool things going on here in the world of ten Foil Tells. Tomorrow, I'll be in Indianapolis for some first time. I've been nominated for something for the Best Podcast Awards, so I'm a top three finalist. I'm a little honored about that. So we'll see what happens. I'll make sure i'll make an announcement if I end up winning. If I do win, i'll be pretty cool. So I don't ever win anything in life, so be a little bit cool. But the Patreon's going pretty well now. I know there's some people out there that's uh listening and watching along. That's part of it. So I want to say thanks to everyone that's out there that's a part of the Patreon and anyone out there listening, if you're just a subscriber or a listener, whatever, I appreciate all you guys. Tonight, though, we're going to be joined by the guys from Sasquatchers, which I think they've now changed their name. To the Watchers because they have some new announcements to talk about. But I will bring on Drew and JC here in a second. I just want to say thanks for them for come on here and talking with me tonight, and then we got our guest price. We'll bring on here in a little bit too, but we're gonna go ahead and get this shit started. So hellou Hey, what's up. Drew looks glitching out of the stratosphere here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyways, I'm j C. Formerly of Sasquatchers, also Drew. Okay, Drew says sasquatchro So now we have a paradox going on here, but we have a lot of cool things coming up. I think we're rebranding a little bit, expanding our topics. And appreciate briand joining Brandon as always. It's been awesome talking to you. I know, Drew's been conversing with you almost every single day since we talked to you the last time. Yea, and I think that this live is beating our episode that we recorded with you, yeah, like a month ago. So Drew had said that the episode you guys recorded me, like the first part of it has like the most Facebook or the most YouTube or something on it, which I think is strange because I don't even get that many on my own it did it had it did? It was a very popular episode, and our YouTube is we get a lot more audio views than we our audio listens and we do YouTube views, but that one kind of took off. So mhm, appreciate your presence on that episode. I'm glad I could help, I guess, and I don't know how I managed it, because I wish I could help my own podcast, but it doesn't seem to happen for me. I go on someone else's show and they get more people listening to me on that one episode than I do on my own show. But well, hopefully Drew can get his internet issues worked there. Yeah, he's having an issue. He lives in the middle of nowhere, so that's no excuse. So do I take it up with him when he gets on. No, that's all good. That mine happened to me a while back. I was trying to interview someone and we were using video. I was like, but I have turned the video off of Like, for some reason, my Internet's being stupid and it doesn't want to allow me to talk to people. On video, which I usually don't do video interviews anyways, but when I have been doing it, it's I've been putting them up on the Patreon, and I don't know if anyone actually watched it. I've never actually heard from anyone on the Patreon, so I mean they're joining and subscribe, and I really heard any feedback from anyone, So hopefully they enjoy what's going on in there. But ostend the chat if you have that experience to the Patreon. Yeah, if anyone out there is a member of the Patreon, let me know. I'll give you a shot out here on the screen. But we're gonna go ahead and bring Bryce on. Bryce has some stuff he wants to talk about, and like I said, we're all wrestling fans. I'm sure we'll talk about some current wrestling events too. Hey guys, Hey, what's up nothing man? How you guys doing the night? I was watching the NFL Draft because I'm into that type of shit too, And now I'm down here with you guys. I don't even know who my culture going to pick. I'll be checking my phone here in a few minutes. Yeah, I haven't even looked yet, did I'm a Bears fan. Did the Bears take Caleb Williams. Oh yeah, I figured they were going to. That was kind of a given. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm not sure I'm sold on the dude personally, but no, no, I mean I'm sure we'll get him. It'll be like whenever they got Yourbisky, you know, that was the name everybody was saying, and then Patrick Mahomes ended up being god so right. But well, you want to let the audience know a little bit about yourself. Yeah, my name is Bryce. I am one of the hosts of the Strips turn Buckle podcast. It's a wrestling podcast, and when I was nine years old, I had a encounter with the hat Man. So if you guys want, I can get going into that here just a second. Yeah, whenever you're ready. All right, Well, this all started back in nineteen ninety three in hair in Illinois and I was going to my first sleepover and it was my buddy Thomas. He just lived like three or four houses down from me, and it was raining that evening. It was pretty late. One cool thing about Thomas's out was, keep in mind, this was in ninety three. His parents had satellite, so they had like the giant satellite dish in the backyard, you know, but it was like, hey, we could watch Sci Fi channel, so you know, that's what we were doing. And so it was probably his parents were already in bit of sleep, so it was probably every bit of eleven o'clock, i'd say eleven thirty maybe, and we were watching TV and it's raining outside. You know, there's a storm going, nothing crazy, like just like a regular thoughtunderstorm, and all of a sudden, Thomas is just like, hey, uh do you see that out the window? And I was like what I looked over and the next door neighbor's house, Thomas's house kind of set a little bit back from that, so we could see going like up their steps to their front door, and we saw what we thought was just this guy trying to open the screen door to get into their house. But keep in mind, you know, it's super late storming all that. So we were kind of watching them for a little bit and then we just was like, okay, this is weird, you know, like you know, he was waiting telling his parents. We didn't do that. We just kind of went back to mind our own business watching TV. Then it wasn't maybe maybe three minutes and we started kind of getting this feeling like you know, we're being watched. And I look over and right there in the window, which like with his house in the neighbor's house, there was you walk into his house, you're in the living room, and to the right facing the neighbor's house was this great, big living room window, and the driveway separated the houses. So standing in the driveway, but like closest to the window side of the driveway was that guy. Except that once we got once we saw him, this guy was not a guy. It was solid black, had what looked like a trench coat with the lapel up, wearing a hat that was slightly cocked a little bit like a fedora. To me, it reminded me a lot of like, you know, like a nineteen forties detective or a gangster or something like that. Like how they rest back then, you know, and then like if they wore a trench coat or something over it with like the lapels up, reminded me of that. So we're sitting there and I mean, it's pretty scary, right because you're not expecting to see this right here. And then one thing I noticed was the whole face. It was just black, just darkness. Nothing there, no eyes, mouth, nothing that I saw. And I haven't talked to Thomas since seventh grade, whenever I moved from here, and so I have no idea, what, you know, any details he would remember. But so we're sitting there, we're looking at this thing, and we you know, we're getting freaked out. So we go there's his couch. His couch just kind of set basically closer to the TV than it did the wall by the front door, if that makes sense in the living room, you know, And we got on the side of it and we're kind of trying to hide from it, right because we didn't know what was going on. We were scared to death. So we wait a little bit, We peek over the couch arm, the arm of the couch. It's gone, okay, So we get back. We sat back, get back to watching TV, just kind of trying to chill out. It wasn't minute and a half, two minutes probably, and we heard his screen door to his porch open up. Now his porch. The way that it was, like the way he would be for his house was you went up these like three concrete steps that they kind of I don't know if they were off centered or what, but they kind of wobbled whenever you walked up them. And you walk into the open the guakie to the porch. Sorry, and it was an enclosed porch full of windows and all that, but the carpet in it was that like late eighties early nineties astro turf carpet, you know, I'm talking about like the green plastic freely stuff. Yeah, so you know, we we heard it walk into there, and then next thing we know, his front door had a small window like in it at the top. It was I don't know, it's probably about about like that, about that white, i'd say. And we saw it just standing there looking in, and of course it sees us. We see it, we get nervous, we get you know, scared, so again we dive behind the couch trying to hide from it. And it was just like the whole time. It never tried to open the front door. And I don't know if front door is locked or not. I'm gonna assume it was, but then again, who knows, because the screen door wasn't locked. But it's just, uh, like the more I've thought about it and everything, I don't know what that thing wanted. But I know that whatever it was, it was at least at the very least into scaring people, because like I was on another show and told this encounter, and this is only the second time I've told it on a show, and it was just I don't know, like like I kind of feel like it because I've had a lot of paranormal experiences since and like seeing UFOs things like that, so to me, and I could be wrong on this, but this is just how I feel. I feel like either it's uh marked me or like for not to sound like Twilight but like imprinted or something to like, you know, kind of like lift the veil kind of deal. And uh, I don't know, but that's just how it's been since. But uh I was talking to some people about it, and you know, they were thinking that maybe what that we were giving it what it needed by being scared, like it was feeding off the fear. So I don't know. I mean, have you guys heard anything like that, because I know a lot of times when people have hat man encounters, it's usually in the room with them, and like this one, I heard, this guy woke up and there was the hat man standing at the edge of his bed with a girl holding a dead bird. And that's weird. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't I know what I do if I woke up and saw that. I know some people have, you know, been physically assaulted by a hat man. It's just, uh, I don't know. I don't know if it was because we were kids or what. But I do know that like when it was raining and we were looking at this thing out the window in the driveway when it was standing there, it was so weird because it was like the water was hitting it, but it did not look wet like, it did not look like like I don't know, it's just it was like it was hitting it and just going off of it. It was not soaking into it at all. And like I said, this thing was was darker than dark. You know, it was nighttime, it was storming. Yeah, you could see it better if lightning flashed, but you can still see it regardles us, and it just I don't know. It's just it's messed with me over the years and stuff like because we don't I mean, I say, we am me. You just you just don't know what it really wanted that night because it was trying to get into the neighbor's house first, and they were a Pennecostal family. It was a guy and his wife and they had three kids, two daughters and a son. And one of the daughters was my age because we were in the same class. I can't remember her name right now. I think it was Mindy or something. But they also ran a daycare there during the daytime, So, I mean, I don't know, and I mean, you know, also, I hate to be like this and hate to sound like this, but whenever you're a kid, yeah, they seemed like really nice people. Who knows if they were, I don't know. I ain't trying to slander nobody though. I just you know, you got to keep all things, all options open on that because you just don't know. Now, were you able to see, like, was it somewhat solid or translucent enough to where it looked like a shadow? No, this thing was solid. This was solid. You could not see through it. It's interesting because a lot of people when they report them, they they're solid, but they still say they look more like a shadow type person. Well, I mean, like I said, it was, it was solid, but it was solid black. I mean, so you didn't see like actual facial features or anything about it. No, I didn't see any of that. See the one time that I had that weird dream, I say dream. This was twenty something years ago. I still lived in my parents' house, and in my dream, my throat was like burning and scratching or whatever. And I opened my eyes and I saw, I call it the cowboy was leaning over me, and I feel like the I could sleep, paralysis or whatever. I couldn't move, and then finally it disappear and I could get up at my throat still hurt, and I went and got warm, took a drink. I just thought it because my throat hurt, my mind automatically made up this dream as to why my throat was hurt. I never even heard a hat Man ntil like a couple of years ago. That's yeah, that's how it was with me. I didn't know anything about hat Man. And then is it okay to mention a different podcast on here? Yeah? I don't kind of shit, okay, cool. I was listening to the hollow Sky podcast and they were doing an episode about the hat Man, and I was like, what the heck's the hat Man? And they posted like a picture advertising for the episode, and it was a picture that this person that they were interviewing had sent in and it was like this person's family like a mom, grandma, maybe sisters or something like that. And right behind the grandma was this black, completely black, shadowy guy, you know, guy with a hat on that. As soon as I saw it, boom, that memory came back of whenever I was nine and I was like, wait, I've seen that, you know, and it's just like, that's the hat man. So that was whenever I was able to put a name with what I saw because I had no clue, you know, whenever I was a kid, and then seeing that it just brought it all back. Yeah. I always said it looked like a cowboy because the hat that I loved like a cowboy hat. And I've mentioned this on another episode, but do you guys remember that the Bruce Campbell movie where he played Elvis Bubba ho tep Oh. I love that. Yeah, yeah, that was about the time frame when that movie came out. I just bought the DVD. So however many years ago that was, and I just watched them. I think that was before that really, Yeah, I want to say it was those early two thousands I still lived in my parents. I haven't lived at my parents' house in twenty years. So but yeah, and Ossie Davis is JFK. Yeah, that's a good sign big Show reference. Yes, two thousand and two actually, so I saw it late. I think I saw it when I first went to college. That would have been two thousand and nine. Yeah. Well, I just bought that movie and it was about the same timeframe, and I don't remember if it was the same night that I watched and I had that dream or the expers. I just figured it was because I had that weird dream about this ancient Bubba Hotep mommy trying to suck souls out of someone's asshole, that I had this fair dream. But no, that was that was an interesting movie. For anyone out there that's never seen it, check out Bubba Hotep. It's definitely a good watch. Yeah. But the back to the hat Man thing, though, that's I have no idea. Like, it's strange that the guy I never heard of it the same thing with me, Like it was the Olo Sky podcast with the first time I'd ever heard about hat Man. Yeah, fun story, tonight's the first time I've heard about the hat Man Oh really, I'm yiss finding out right now. I have an episode, like episode twenty something that's I interviewed someone from England that had a hat man, a sleep parowless thing. It seems to me it kind of goes hand in hand is when you see these hat men, you also wake up and like your body's paralyzed, you can't move. Yeah, it sounds like true. Drew, notice about that. Okay, see Drew, the hat man must have got him. They got him. No. I mean like I've heard of like shadow figures and like tales, you know, things like injured cold or like the potential FBI that follows up like certain events, and they were always cold figures and stuff. But the hat Man's a new one, uh for me. Like we're saying that this is like a shadow creature almost that it was solid but shadowy. Yeah. I had a fedora, so it's like yeah, and just gauging like where it was standing in the window and everything, like if I was to be standing out in the driveway, I would say it was probably six ' one, oh wow. And as far as like shoulder with and all that, like your average guy, yeah, not your pentecostal neighbors. Yeah, no, no, no, that dude was like six five and three hundred pounds. Wow. Yeah. So it makes me think outside of like a ghost of Reddit because of the Fedora. Right, so we're going into like weird territory here. Now how far deep do we want to go? Because what if this is time travel? What if it's somebody somebody from outside of a different dimension. I'm just throwing ideas out here. It's very possible. Have you and you've you've not experienced similar since then? Or oh yeah, yeah, no, I've seen shadow people. I've had ghost encounters. I've seen a UFO. I like Brandon had a dream whenever I was eleven, I had a dream and it was possibly an abduction. So I'm not really sure. I don't want to do the regressive hypnosis thing. You know, Allen, you came to the wrong stream, because that's what we're doing here. Well, I mean, you never know. I'll tell it, but it's it's uh, it's out there, but yeah it's uh man. So okay, So one story, it's kind of funny with this shadow entity I found in my house. I was literally just turning all the lights off, getting ready to go to bed, and I was turning the light off in the dining room, and I was getting ready to walk into the living room and go to my bedroom. And I like that, right, I'll take that, Yes, I like that. Get these hands. But I noticed, like I saw a movement coming out of my peripheral and I look over and I can see this shadowy figure like almost like it's like, oh God, let me get by before he sees me and goes right by me. And my kid's shoes were like sitting up by the front door, and I literally heard this thing trip over one of the shoes. I don't know. That kind of freaked me out, though I thought funny, I kind of at the time. I thought to myself to the tellmass and then I'm like, wait a second, wait a second, that tripped over the shoe, Like you know, I'm like, okay, this, okay, what's going on here? And I I still don't know why, but I found that, and then uh, I got a pretty good ghost story if you want to hear that. Of course. All right, So I had just started working at the job I currently work at. So this was seventeen years ago. The guy who was training me also DJ'd at a bar in Benton, Illinois, and uh say, that was me. Well it's on the third sholf Ryan and uh we he was like, you know, hey, man, when we get off work, you want to stop buying, you know, I'll buy you a beer and everything like all right, cool. So got off work, took a shower, headed down there, and whenever I got there, I had to pee. So I walked in the place, saw where he was set up DJ and ran over asked him where the bathroom was and he told me, you know, it's back there by the bar. And he's like, you know, just a one person bathroom, so there might be a line. Okay. So I get down there and there's this old biker guy and I mean, wasn't necessarily weird to see an old biker at this bar because it was kind of a rough bar anyways, and uh so I walk up there and the bathroom doors closed, this guy standing there, and I was just like, you're like, hey, how's it going, And he just kind of looked at me and then he said fine. And then I'm just like but it was just weird because he was just like like, you know, like I say, he just said fine. He just kind of kept looking at me, and then he was just kind of like just looking and I was just like, okay, this is weird. So I'm standing there. Person comes out of the bathroom. He looks at me, and I'm like, oh, no, man, you were first. Go ahead, you know, go ahead. So he goes into the bathroom, but he doesn't like close the door all the way. He just kind of shuts it too, and uh. This other guy comes up and he goes to open the door, and I was like, oh, there's a guy in there. And then after he's done, you know, then it's me, then it's you. So We're sitting there shooting the shit, and I'm keeping an eye on the door the whole time though, because I really got a piss. And this guy's finally like screw it, I'm just gonna pee in the sink. I don't care he opens the door. There's nobody in there. The only way to get out of the bathroom was the same way you went in through that one door, and I had my eye on that the whole time. So it was like right then and there, I was like, what the fuck? And then so I go do my business, Go get a beer, go talk to Sean. I'm like, hey man, this is gonna sound pretty uh wild, but you ever heard anybody say anything about seeing a ghost here? And I mean, he just dead stare, looked right at me and said what it looked like? And I described it to him and he said he was like, dude, he was like about a week or so ago. One of the bartenders described that saw this old biker guy standing back there by the back door was like a fire exit and she said, sorry, we're closed, you can't be in here right now, and the thing just disappeared right in front of her. So yeah, I don't know, you know who it could have been or you know why they were in that general area, But you know, I mean I have my theories on it because that place, it's had a rough history. So I mean, you know the old piss ghost. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Also is my police sleep paralysis was when I was nine. It was a typical abduction scenario. Couldn't move, speak, et cetera. Eyes were movable. I saw these gleaming eyes on my closet door. Not the typical graze. I am. I'm very curious now about this. Yeah, that's my buddy. He's been through some stuff. I was gonna go that direction. Ask you if you'd ever suffered from sleep prouse this brace. I think Drew might have been some insight because Drew also has suffered from sleep prous this quite heavily the last ten or so years, not that I have noticed. I have had some wild dreams sometimes, which kind of makes me wonder, but I've never woken up with anything sitting on my chest, or old hag or any of that stuff. I know they think sleep paralysis. They called a sleep demon, and I've heard some other terms about it too, like the succubists. They claim that's where the comes out there and she's sitting on you and you can't move. Yeah. My old band actually had a song called the Thralls of Littles, was about a succubist. So I'm just gonna throw that out there because I realized that we had a song called skin Walker, We had a song about a dog man, we had a song about a succubist, songs about all sorts of stuff, and this before I was doing this podcast. So I've always been fascinated with strange shit, But when it comes to stuff like this, like where do the stories originate from? You know who made up the legend that there was a sleep paralysis demon like that comes and sits on your chest and sucks some of your life out. That's why you can't move like somewhere. I had to have originate it just because someone suffered from sleep paralysis. They automatically wrote it up of saying it was a demon sitting on them. If you're able to hear me now, because I've been plagued with terrible issues, I do have some insight on that. Yeah here, okay, well okay, well, so first of all, apologies, my MacBook died and I'm on an older, crappier laptop that's struggling to keep up. But I actually have had sleep prolysis since I was a child. The first instance that I can recall, I was in kindergarten Ish And because of that, when I was in college, I did every single paper that I could write about sleep proalysis that I took that opportunity and I did it and all over the world. Actually I always call it this is like the dragon effect, because every culture, no matter how ancient and distant from one another, had a dragon in their culture. All of these cultures also have sleep paralysis demons. Whether or not it is something that's actually occurring, or if it's something that's going on in our psyche, uh, you know, brain chemistry. This is something that throughout history, documented history, people have just experienced. You know. There are instances in Italy, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years ago that are documented. At the same time, there are instances of this being described in Japanese literature as well. So I find myself somewhere in the middle on this, and I think that there's something a little sinister going on. I think that there are actual things at play. I don't buy that the body becomes stressed and that we suddenly are you know, attacked by demons at night when we're asleep. But as far as its originating, it goes back as far back as we've been documenting history. Yeah, there's been reports for years. That's where I said, where did it originate from? Where they come up with a demon thing? Just because I know, I feel like everything in old times were always considered demons, and even in today's standards, a lot of people want to say everything's demons, but that's neither here nor there. It's a I don't know the exact word, how to say it, but like it's always been something that makes you wonder for sure, though, like where did everything originate from? Like I suffer from sleep prous is a lot. I don't think anything about it. I just always say I'm sleeping and like I'm still half asleep, like this happened a couple of weeks ago, Like I was laying in bed, I feel like I could move and then I jerk and I I'm awake. It's always just wrote it off as nothing more than being asleep and awake, like you're on the verge of it. But I have the on diverge experiences where you kick yourself out. But I think I think the thing like sleep process, things like Drew's talking about, like I witnessed. Unfortunately, I've witnessed Drew in sleep process before, you know, maybe ten years ago, and it was not a kick a week type of thing. It was like sound like a dying goat laying on the Grants living room floor kind of experience. I think. And then we're all like throwing our shoes at him while this is happening. Yeah, you know, I need I always need somebody to kind of shake me out of it. It's almost like your body starts to see ease, and I have had studies done to see if I was having seizures in my sleep. I think there are levels to it, and you'll have that, you know, kind of kick yourself awake scenario, and I think that's where a lot of people are then willing to write it off as something chemical, like something it's chemically occurring, and if do some research on it, everybody always says that it is a serotonin influx in your brain that causes this, and there are studies obviously done that show that serotonin builds up while this is occurring, but those same studies don't offer a reason for it. So some people are actually experiencing something chemical going on in their brain, but there is no reason for it to occur. It's an anomaly still is unknown, so I understand why some people adhere to the this is just strictly something that happens, and if you're stressed or you're not sleeping properly, it it's easy to write it off as that. But having experienced what I've experienced throughout my life, it is an ever changing situation. The first time it happened, obviously I was a child. I had no idea what was going on. But as I've grown in an elementary school into adulthood, there are things that align with it. And it started out with dreams of Freddy Krueger, because you know, I was a kindergartener who whose favorite movie was A Nightmare on Elm Street four and I watched it religiously and the tape broke because of how often I watched it. So these would start to occur with dreams of Freddy Krueger. And then as I got older, that subsided and it would turn into other things. For a while, when it was happening, I was convinced that my cat was laying on me, because I had a cat that would kind of like rest on my shoulder all the time, and so it would happen. I couldn't move, and my brain would kind of try to convince me that this was happening. Well, that happened all the way up until my cat died at like nineteen years old. And after that I started to see shadows. And it was never a shadow person. I've never seen an actual person, but like shadows kind of just kind of floating above, always on the ceiling, over top of me. And that happened for a couple of years, and then it evolved further. I started to have these dreams of this house, and I would always enter this house, and I could always tell that something was going on in the dream, like I wasn't supposed to be here. I would always find myself in the basement, and it's the same house, same interior. Every single time. I could draw you this house. At this point, I can draw you this basement, the steps, there's a door, and I just know there's something sinister on the other side of that door. And this happens every single time. And then eventually this entity comes out of that door and it's on top of me and it's attacking me. And that's when my physical body is going through this state of paralysis. And JC described it as a dying goat, and that's exactly how I describe it, and my wife would say the same thing. It's the only thing I could that can happen as far as movement goes, is like I'm trying to scream, I'm trying to like in this situation, I'm trying to fight back, but the body doesn't move, and like the tongue doesn't move, and it literally is like just like an echoy sound of a of like a dying goat. It's the literally best way to describe it. And we all sleep in the same bed, so I know what it sounds like, right, And uh so, I've experienced this stuff in an evolutionary state where it began one way, changed drastically into another thing, and then over the years has has turned into this and it has kind of settled, and it always comes back to this one time I was carried and this one wasn't so much a dream. This was more of the hallucination that comes with this where you're in between the sleep and actual reality. I was carried through woods by a gray alien. That one always kind of stuck with me because it only happened once and it was vastly different than all of the other ones that ever occurred to me. So I have this you know, the demon or the hag or which some people describe it pretty consistently at this point. But it didn't start like that, you know. It started with just regular nightmares that led to me kind of consciously realizing this isn't typical and this doesn't happen to other people when they're asleep to this weird couple of year period where my cat was on me, and I've always wondered if if there's actually something like nefarious happening when this is a cur was my cat somehow protecting me from all of this crazier, scarier stuff that started to happen after he died. I believe that that's something that I've kind of considered and have been trying to research a little bit, because it got vastly different and much scarier after the cat died. Yeah, I'd be interested to see what you find out about that, because that's what it sounds like. And I mean, like, if you remember the movie Sleepwalkers, you know, the evil entities, those cat people, they did not like the cat because the cat could see them and all that stuff, so kind of keeping them at bay and whatnot. So I mean it's there might be a connection there. Yeah, there are cultures as well that that say that cats are protectors against the underworld. I believe there are some cultures in the Middle East. And I might just be confusing it with the Mummy with Brendan Fraser talking about this, but I do recall seeing that that cats are at least in some cultures protectors. They in Persian culture, cats were almost I don't want to say they were worshiped like gods, but they were pretty high up on the chain in there, see right, and an Egyptian culture as well, Iraqi culture of Persia there in the Middle East. Yeah, there was one thing you said, Drew that I like really caught my ear. How you talking about in your dream you'll keep going back to the same place. I've had dreams like that, but instead of it being like this house, it's more of this street in a town. But it's very weird because it's almost like it's almost like this is gonna sound weird on how I'm describing this, but just kind of go with me on it. It's like it's just a line, Like the whole town is just a line, you know, Like like it's just like a street view, you know what I mean. And like it's always whenever I have these dreams or whatever they are, that's where it's always at. And it's almost always like soon as like I realize where I'm at, it's just like, oh God, here we go again, you know. Yeah, And like you said, you know, there's something just around that corner, just behind that door. And from what I can remember, I haven't seen it yet, but I've definitely felt it. So whenever you said that, that really got my attention really good because it was like, whoa, I've had that. So yeah, I don't know. Maybe this whole sleeper house thing, maybe I have had experiences with it and just don't realize it. So yeah, if you pay closer attention when that, when that occurs from now on, see how see how often it happens. Uh, see how your body reacts when it does happen. It's it's a very traumatic thing to go through. I consistently need help waking up out of it. Uh. It causes anxiety. I think it was occurring last night and then my son woke me up and he wanted, uh, he wanted me to grab him some water at two am, and so ray as it was about to occur, it was stopped, but my my heart was still going about two hundred beats like it was. It was crazy, and I had to like calm myself down, and I obviously didn't want to frighten him in any way, so I kept my composure, got him his bottle of water, and it took all the way up until heading back into bed before my heartreat had I kind of went back down. So it's supped that your body will tell you that something is happening. You just tune into it, and yeah, it happens like this with everyone who experiences this too. It always is this recurring thing, and I think that's what for me at least, lends that credence to there's something else happening here. And I can't say that, you know, I'm being attacked by a demon every night that I go to sleep. But I am a person who is open to a lot of experimentation in the sense that I spent many nights trying to have out of body experiences. I had one night where I sounds crazy, but I feel very strongly that I accomplished that. And you know, maybe there's something else. There's something going on where maybe our bodies are kind of just a vessel and where stepping out of it for a minute and then you know, you have this astral realm. And some people always talk about how everything inside of that realm is just this beautiful, peaceful area, but others who I respect, such as Preston Bennett, say that there are some things on the other side that you know, if you go too far, well we'll start to mess with you and grab you. So, I mean, I have zero answers, but I do think that there is a difference between being stressed or having some trauma that will then you know, resonate while you're at rest, versus this kind of sleep paralysis that so many people in the world over experience. Yeah. And two, I mean that also sounds a lot like you know in our sleep we Astral project. And you gotta be careful with that because if that is happening and you're unaware of it, and like you said, you get too far out there and things start messing with you. I mean, if they cut your silver cord, that's it. You're gone, you know. So it's one of the things you gotta keep in mind if people want to try to do that. I have done it, not purposely, just like you in a dream, and then suddenly it's like, oh okay, this you know, and then yeah, it's it can be freaky. It can be really freaky. And uh yeah, I don't know where I's going with that. I'm getting very annoyed because it's stream yard. You're out there listening. You can kiss my ass because the last every other live stream continues to screw up. So I'm been getting people telling me that it's screwing up on their end and it's not even streaming on Facebook. When I saw somebody said that earlier in the chat, I've got a notification saying that there is an error, please stop the live stream. No, I'm already in the middle of them, not gonna stop it now. Yeah, why do we Why do I have to pay for this service when you can't help do it? Like crazy that. I don't think I have had anything like that. I mean, we don't stream live too often. We keep it pretty kind of like our stream hasn't streamed correctly to Facebook in like six months really, so maybe that's a Facebook it is not go look it never it never streams the Facebook, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, I brought it. I brought it up one time, but nobody wanted to address it. So I keep trying to like post the video from YouTube and it doesn't show us, and it just shows the like the background, It doesn't show anything about So anyone that sees is not going to see that it's live. There's like, oh, it's a video, and they just ignore it. That's the best parts. The background. Well, I guess the people watched on YouTube can hear us. The comments say they can hear us. But no. The last the last two or three times I've tried to live stream and is supposed to go to Facebook, it keeps saying there is an error with the Facebook stream. Please stop the live stream. No, like I'm paying money for the service. Do what you're supposed to be doing otherwise stream Otherwise give me the free account because you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing. Work or get bent us. Well, there is some other things we can jump into. I know there's been some weird stuff going around here lately when it comes to all sorts of stuff. But uh, with you guys changing up to the Watchers podcast, do you want to talk a little bit about that the network? Yeah, sure, you had. You guys were talking about that when I first started to run into my computer issues. Uh So, basically, the main idea behind it is that Sasquatchers is going to stay the same. It's it's still Sasquatchers and we're still kicking on that, but we want to branch out, we want to do some other things. Uh, we we've kind of we fit a stride in my opinion, and we just enjoy doing this. So we came up with this idea that we are the watchers. We are the ones who watch, you know, all kinds of taglines who watches the Watchers, you know, kind of take that from the Watchmen, but if you're familiar with the I think they are the Watchers in Marvel comics, where they're kind of is kind of out in the universe and they're just watching everything happen. That's kind of what we're going for here, and that way it branches out so that we can do a podcast on just about anything, and we're jumping in with crime and mystery as our next one, but there will absolutely be you know, the Wrestling Watchers podcast, and we're gonna do game Watchers podcasts, you know, so we can do tech and video game stuff and basically anything we want to talk about. We're gonna just throw it next to the word watchers and we're just gonna create a whole bunch of content based on that. And I see that that mock sign behind you Bryce first thing I saw when there are we're all very much long long term wrestling fans. I myself actually did it for a little bit until my neck injury sidelined me and destroyed my life. But I referee death matches, so I can only imagine I trained that. By the way, it seems like I'm always with you. Drew during the downturns in his life, his sleep proalysis, the wrestling incident. I was there when he tried out. I must be the UH, I must be the lowest common denominator and all this j C drove me to my tryout, and it was. It was a blast, and I had, you know, six months of fall like following and fulfilling that dream. And my neck injury didn't even come from wrestling. I was hit by a cold truck and it took until literally last year before I had my corrective surgery on it. So I went, you know, about six or seven years with a terrible neck. Yeah. Go back in our log books and watch our older videos from like October November. He has this neck brace on that he tries to hide with like a zip up sitting here. He sit here like this deck, like the first six weeks of the show. I have a neck brace on in every video and I we recorded I think the day I got out of the hospital because I had to stay there. It wasn't an au patient thing where so I went in for surgery on Monday. I think I came home on Wednesday and we recorded yep. But yeah, so that's that's kind of the Watchers, and it's it's a thing where it just allows us to branch out and do do a lot more. But you know, we'll keep that Sasquatcher's flair that everybody seems to like. You know, I think it was a lot of because like we're interested in all kinds of different topics. And when you have a pair ofanormal show, people only want to hear about like that person that you're talking to that you know, that paranormal subject. But like we want to talk about a lot stuff and we don't want to be beholden to just paranormal. We would talk about pro wrestling, we were talking about music, video games. You know. I on the side, I have another podcast that I'm part of. It's a tech technology podcast. We talk about gaming and retro tech on there. So like maybe we'll blend that all together and it'll just become this monstrosity called the Watchers. Well, I'll tell you that our first two non paranormal guests that I have lined up are actually pretty exciting for me. We're going to do. We have someone who runs a Facebook group that has thousands and thousands of Internet sleuths that all work together, and she was in the HBO I want to say documentary they called him mostly harmless, and yeah, she reached out to her because I when watching that documentary, she stood out as just this larger than life character. So she's going to be our first guest. And after that, we have some some pread hunters, you know, like from a local group out where I live, that are out doing the predator hunting where you know, they're catching all of these people who are trying to hook up with kids and stuff. So just like a vastly different kind of yet and funny, funny enough, Drew is actually the first person on that episode of prend Hunters. That's how I met them. Now, I'm going to make a stupid bad dad joke here for you, but you're saying, with watchers attached to it, do not do a weight loss one an exercise them they call it weight watcher because you might get sued. Yeah, No, I I'm ready for a season desist. You know. I actually had one of those before. It was from It was from Comcast and twenty ten because I was downloading videos illegally. Yeah, and I got the anti piracy season assist order, pay like a two hundred something thousand dollars fine to phase five years and penalty feet or a prison or whatever. I was like, all right, I didn't mean to download. It was an accident. Yeah, fun fact they based sent off your IP address, so like if you just spoof your IP address through VPN or another method, they can't pre with you. Yeah. This was like I said back back then, and I forgot the video. I think it was actually Iron Man two. It was still in theaters, soow, they're supposed to all the movies that get busted for Well, was the one that's when they started to crack down guys, because Marvel was taking a hit on that. So that was actually something that was occurring right around when that movie came out. Actually, so I think your memory is correct. Yeah, that was the one movie that was I think paying to go see this ship. I'm gonna watch it from home. A few days later, I hit an email from Comcast. Hey, we saw you watching that some other stuff I've watched. Where were Where were you last night? You don't want to know the other weird stuff movies. I did just go to the movies. Two weeks ago, we went and seen Civil War. I was like, I'm interested in this movie because everyone wants to talk about it when they dabble into the politics or whatever they see in theaters here than seen in real life. On November sixth, that was a tagline that I've seen someone posted like what, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm very excited to And I mayor may not be receiving one of those letters after watching it. I'm gonna be one hundred percent honest that I didn't think it was that great. It was. It was alright, but it wasn't I've heard that, I've heard, I've heard. I've heard a few people say that too. I took my kids and went and saw the new Godzilla movie a couple of weeks ago. It was pretty good. He's up here behind me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was pretty good. If Ryan's still in the chat, I'm sure he's already seen it by now. He's a pretty big Godzilla fan. But uh, yeah, it was pretty good. It uh, I can't help. But the scar King like the bad guy. It's one of King Kong's kind. To me, he looked more like a bigfoot than he did than he did one of the Kongs. You know. They looked more like a rangutani ish looking Yeah, like the rangutingish looking kind. And it is just it's funny. I went to Walmart because I was going to go buy one of the big gut zillas for myself keeping the box, and I told my two year old, I get him one. They were on clearance. I seen them two days ago when I was wait till I got paid today, and I was like, I'm gonna go get them. They only had one, so I was good dad, and I gave it to him. So I didn't get myself one. But they were twenty five dollars and they're marked down to twelve. Whoa, So I was like, well they had they had scar King in there too, and they're not smaller. They're like the big about tall thing. I think they're eleven inches tall. It says, but yeah, they want eighteen dollars for scar King, So I don't know why god Zilla was twelve. The scar Kings eighteen. They're the same size, probably a lot of them versus not as many made go go gos. That's a go. I saw that band play at this uh like town festival, you know, it was the hair and fest back whenever I was in high school, Like I think my sophomore year, Blue Oyster Cult was playing. I'm like what they played uh in a town not too far from where I live a few years ago, and I actually went and watched them, because it's probably been about ten years ago. But I do enjoy Blue Oyster Cult. Not my mom loves Blue Oyster Colt. Let's get her on here. Everybody's mom loves Blue Colt. Oh yeah, if there are age I'm forty years old, there's I'm still in that version of I'm almost to their fan base, right, Yeah, you got about twenty. Don't Fear the Reaper no classic. Nowadays it's don't fear the creeper that's living around the corner of you or the one in your sleep rouses. Yeah, yep. So no, there's there's all that stuff. But as I mentioned earlier, like there's some other things been talking about. You guys talked about restling this and that. But as far as stuff for Tenfoil tells, this will come out before anything. I'm going to release this probably on Sunday. So we recorded here on Thursday. Your Guys' episode, I'm pretty sure comes out tomorrow. So anyone that listens to it for the next couple of days and then Sunday they'll hear that you guys again from the live stream episode. But a couple keep people keep asking me, like how I'm getting so far ahead. I was like, I record almost every night. I mean, that's what I've been doing. But I plan on taking the summer off. So everyone that ends up listening to this and you want to come on, ten Foil tells, just no, it's probably not going to ben till some time in August before I start booking anyone else, just because I like about everything schedule for the next two months and I'm basically taking July off. Yeah, if my buddy Paul is still in the chat, he needs to get a hold of you too, because he's got some good stuff. I just got an email and I don't want to say from who, but it's a bigger name in the big in the Bigfoot community. But I'm gonna have to get scheduled, so I might make an exception for him. But yeah, we'll go out that way. But no, far as what's going on. Checking my things here and nothing's popping up for never mind. There was something I was going to talk about, but it's not in there. But no, tomorrow night, I'm supposed to be going to this award show. It's strange that the podcast was nominated for like I submitted it, but I didn't think i'd ever hear from. But then it's top three finals for Best Paranormal Podcast at the Indie Popcorn. It's like the comic con of travels around. All the dudes from The Lord of the Rings are supposed to be there, like Elijah Wood and the dude that plays Gollum, Andy Serkus and some of the other ones are there. There's like a lot of actors and stuff going to be there, which I can't get to mingle with them because I'm not paying to get in. They claim I can go to the awards ceremony for free, but if I want to go and actually like talk to people or go through the actual convention, I have to have a ticket. I was like, Okay, I'm just coming for the awards. If I win, cool. If I don't, cool, the fact that I was chosen to even be here is kind of cool for me. I'll just sit in the add get me some nice clothes. I'm not gonna wear the banana shirt tomorrow, but ah you should. Yeah I would. Speaking of shirts, why don't you stand up lot and see the shirt you're rocking the Bryce got the Tinfoil Tails Doug Man Edition T shirt? Huh no, So that is available, and there's also this lovely ten Foyltel Sasquat shirt available for anyone interested. Go to the show notes and you will have a link to the store. I'm also going to be getting some printed and I'll have them in stock form when I go and do these conventions. There's like four different conventions I'm doing this year. So I'll be at a Bigfoots and Bruis and Spirits two up in the Wadjack, Michigan in September. Is that the one that Eric from Uncomfortable hosts? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be at that one. Cool. And then there's the first Annual Bigfoot Conference down in Nashville, Indiana, like two weeks later. I'm gonna be at that one, and then I'm going to be at the Pair Unity six here in Miami County, which I've been there the last two years, but this year I'm supposed to be a speaker. And then I was asked to be at the Crawfordsville First Annual Paranormal Convention in Crawfordsville, Indiana and be a speaker there too. So I guess they're all going to hear my same interviews that I do for everyone else's podcast. They want to hear about my weird experience. It's like, well, I'll tell you about the damn thing that I almost ran over. Yep. Someone's asked me recently, and I think I said on your Guys' podcast Drew about if I ever want to see it again. I was like, I'll run that motherfucker over walks, right, they take a walk. If it walks out in front of me, he's a he's asking for it at this rate, because the if I'm driving my truck, he's getting splattered, and if he doesn't get splattered, I'm getting out and I want to get splattered. But at least I'll know for two seconds what what actually was. But so I think we have we have a pair of psychon coming up in here in Ohio, uh in Mansfield in May, like the middle of May, and I think Drew and I are planning on going to that one. Yeah, we're just gonna yeah, we're just gonna tend. We're just gonna chill. We're gonna get everybody's faces and hey, look at us. Yeah that's cool. So Mansfield is funny to me because years ago, when I was doing band stuff, and it's probably been fifteen years now, we played a show with a band and I think they were named Messiah. The reason I remember this is because we played like metal core, death metal, whatever you want to call it, and that's where the kids did all the crazy ninja kicks and stupid flips and whatever. Like yeah, well kids up at much bits. I'm this guy that stands away from with marms crossed out towards the back, trying to my own business, and I gotta do this stuff when someone's coming at me. Well, me and my guitar player were standing in the back, and the vocalist from this Messiah bands, he does like a cartwheel and then he's like punching the air and then he like does a mule kick. Straight back. He kicked me right in the knee, and my knee buckled backwards, and I dropped straight down to the ground. And my buddy thought I thought I was getting buck he said for a second, because he thought I was like breakdance or something, get down there, and I was like, no, dude, he just brought my leg. But that band was that band was from or a Mansfield, Ohio or whatever. I was like when you mentioned that, that's the first thing I thought of was like, uh, fucker, my knees starting to first just thinking about it. No that those were the good old days of when people showed up the shows and tried to kill each other, I guess, and not in the sense of that I've talked about it on our other podcast. We had dark sight of the scene that one of the last shows that my band played before the world got shut down was like third or four show before we stopped doing stuff. We played up in South Bend, Indiana, and we played first and then but the next band played during their set, this dude, I don't know what happened. He basically like power bombed this random guy right on the floor, and we don't know if he died or not. The police came, they shot the shadow, and they took the dude out on a stretcher, and I never heard they shut the showdown. I never heard. We never heard what happened to him. We don't know if he lived or died or what. The police were looking for the guy that did and everyone's like, oh, we don't know who it was. I was from sneaking out the back. It was definitely it was franky from a mirror, for sure. It sounds like something a mirror would do. Jac and I were at a show where I was power bombed after a stage. It was a Gnostic front messed me really bad. Yeah, Drew, Drew, you set yourself up for that power bomb though, like you Literally I did a moon salt off the stage and it was after making eye contact with Vinnie Stigma, and I was encouraged to do this by a guy who looked exactly like Charles Manson, and I think during during like mid moon salt, mister Manson was the one that actually grabbed me and then decided to slay me down. Did you do this little dance thing afterwards like he did in that interview? I was pretty concussed at that point I can't even really remember too much. After that, Drew offered Drew offered up his grandmother's house to the band, the supporting band that was playing, and they somehow beat us back. Well not somehow. We we we stopped for food because what we did, we were little pieces of garbage kids. But we also didn't need but we stopped for food. We get back to his grandmother's house. In this band, it's just like drinking beer watching the Elite show with his grandma. That's awesome. It was Ruiner and quickly became one of my favorite bands. And you know, after the show, they're like, hey, we need a place to crash, and I was like, you know what, my grandma has room on her floor. So I called. I called my grandma and I'm like, hey, I'm gonna have some people over tonight, hope you don't mind, and she's like, okay whatever. At the time a fourcore band shows up, it's like a nine piece or nine people, and uh, you know, it's fun. They beat us there, they got there and that's jac and I. We stopped at like I can't remember or something. After a show, took our time getting back and yeah, Ruiner's just there with my grandma. Real, real weird experience. But yeah, that's kind of kind of a life. We never stayed at anyone's place. We anytime I've ever been gone on band stuff, we always played at a show and then I paid for a motel or we forked up money and paid for a motel because we weren't trying to sleep on anyone's floor. Because I'm that weird guy in the sense of I'm paranoid. It's like, what if these people are murderers, that's true, We're gonna go back to their house. We're not from around here. We don't know anything about these people. We get there, they rob us still over our gear, and then send us off on sex trades or whatever. I guess well, knowing Drew's grandma, she made them tea and lemonade, and you know them. She was so nice and accommodating, right, and then they gave me a whole bunch of free merch the next day and that, you know, say goodbye to those She made them breakfast the second they were gone. That's when she looked at me and she's like, why would you do that? And started to lecture me, like why would you do that to us. I was, like I told you, I was having people over, like I prepared you. They didn't just show up. I feel like most bands of if they show up and stay at someone's house, unless they're complete dick wads, they're going to be decent when they stay there, just because yeah, they were super decent. My first launch pit was Pantera at oz Fest. We were seeing them at the Amphitheater in Saint Louis, Missouri, and me and my cousin we were trying to get across the lawn area to where my dad and my stepmom were, and we got about halfway across and then out comes Pantera, and next thing you know, all hell broke clips. It's a good time, though I'm not. It's funny. This will offend anyone that's a metal head. But like, I've never been a fan of Pantera. I just never was, to be honest, not me either. Really, I don't know what it was, but like I just maybe I just didn't. It just never jibed with me. Like I love death metal, I love metal, I love metal. I'm a mega death I'm a mega death guy. I appreciate what they did or whatever, but like I never thought I could definitely see. They're not for everybody, that's for sure. It's like me, I'm a big Black Label Society fan. A lot of people hate Zach Wilde. Yeah, I've actually seen Chevelle, not intentionally, but wait wait Chavelle is good. Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't go to see Chevelle. I forget who I actually went a Chevelle. What's the album? What's the album they have with? Like the UFO waned them is like sned Red. I don't know the name of the song. Hold on Chevelle albums. I'm using the internet. It's got like it's it's sci fi crimes. Sci Fi Crimes two thousand and nine, sci Fi Crimes. That's a good album. Everyone, What's off to the Bull? Like what Happened to ten? Foil Tells are talking about music stuff. This is his other podcast. Isn't like I'm a Breaking Benjamin fan, Like I know, it's it's funny like Diary of Jane, right, but like there there are two dudes, two brothers, doing their thing. We also grew up in Pennsylvania though too, so it's kind of like, well, we had a band of our culture. Yeah, I mean we tried to have a band. We took some photographs looking cool. It's about as far as we can. I'm posting my comments JC slowly. Wait, wait, that's you posting my own comment. Well, shit, guys, I don't know. My buddy, he's my guitar player, actually messages this earlier. And I know he's probably not gonna listen or watch, but I'm gonna talk about what he'd said in our old band chat that today in his work truck there driving around, one of those coworkers had asked him about five Finger Death Punch came on, and he asked him if he's, oh, do you like this tiny of music? And if you know who we are, you know what we listened to. We're just like He's like no, He's like, oh, I thought you liked scream Oh. He's like nah. That was like the fact that they were labeled five Finger Death Punch Screamo in the first place is funny to me. But I despised that band. You know, it's my mom. My mother, who is sixty five years old, thinks that that is like the epitome of like hardcore metal, and she actually calls them five Finger Discount like they're stealing truth. That's a abitional Dawn. I've actually heard the name of Bysmal Dawn. I think that kind of familiar. Hold on, I have to get this out of the way from five Finger Death Discount in this moment. That's what I actually Yeah, I saw that back in seven. They played at what was it Mayhem Fest and they were signing autographs for free at the f Ye tent. I got to meet them and stuff. They're pretty cool. They're uh got a funny story about them because I was at a Wednesday thirteen show. I don't know if any of you guys ever heard of him or not. Yeah, murder Dolls. Yeah. I was watching them play at Pops, which is like just on this side of the river from Saint Louis, and all of a sudden, like on the ticket it said Wednesday thirteen, and then it was just like local openers. So I'm sitting there and I see in this moment merch and I'm like, what the hell, Like, what are they doing here? It's not on the ticket that they're going to be here, which I was okay with until I found out that they were actually headlining it instead of Wednesday thirteen, because it was a Wednesday thirteen show, so you would think he would be the headliner. Right. So I'm sitting here and I'm pissed off and I'm drunk and not my finest moment. But I'm sitting there and like, you know, you could tell that Wednesday thirteen like they were playing their ass off. They put on a hell of a show. You can kind of tell. He was a little irritated. And so this guy is standing next to me and I'm like, yeah, man, I'm like, apparently in this moment's here and apparently they're the headliners instead of Wednesday thirteen. But if you look at the ticket, it says Wednesday thirteen right here on the ticket. Nowhere on here does it say in this moment. And I was just going off right, and this guy's like, oh, you know, they're pretty good though, I think I like him. I'm like, ah, man, they suck, you know. I'm sitting I'm like that chick just looks like a big coke person. I didn't say person, but uh and then yeah. So then he was like, well, you know, hopefully you like him. I'm like, yeah, who knows, We'll see that was the bass player. Didn't know that I did not know that. I think that they come out and everything and I'm looking this, I see this guy just kind of looks at me and kind of gives me a little head and nod. I'm like, huh, it was the fucking bass player. I was like, whoops. There's been a few times I've put my foot in my mouth and I've been called out for once. We got it. When you get off the stage, when you're in a hurry, when you're playing, they gotta get move your gear and everyone else. You're on a time frame, so I'm moving shit. People want to come up and say like, hey, good job whatever. Some dude comes up. I knew he was from a band, and some other bands had played, but I wasn't really paying attention to who was also playing. Some sitting at our merch table or whatever. Not really I can hear it about not watching and dude comes up gives you the nuts like you guys killed it. Brothers like, yeah, you guys did a good job too. He's like, we haven't even played. I was like, oh, yeah, sorry about that guy. But it tends to happen quite a bit, so yeah. Ten Foil tells morphed into to an episode of Dark Side of the Scene talking about music stuff, dark side of the pen. It is part of the wrestling thing too. It could be the dark side of it. It could be it could be. Yeah, we could get into that mhm, dark side tales. When you guys want to talk about music and the watchers of music or the watchers of wrestling or whatever, let me know. I'll hop on an episode with you guys, because that's all. Nah, we don't talk about We just watch. The watchers are just it's actually gonna be you guys watching it. That's how it is. Everyone just hanging around watching the watchers watch. Yeah, that would be pretty funny though. So the game show, how did that turn out for you guys this weekend? I was trying to watch it a little bit, but I was giving my kid a bass. It was hard to do that and pay attention to what was going on. Was fun. It was one of the most fun things that that we've done since we started working on Sasquatchers. For anybody that's not familiar, we have an associate, Susie Bestile. She was in here earlier. I don't though she still is or not, but I had posted it is I had posted about, you know, wanting to create new exciting content and just throw some ideas out and she's just trying to do something different, growing random stuff, and she ended with game show and this. As soon as I saw the suggestion, it clicked. I was like, okay, as far as the paranormal community goes, there's never been a game show like so that sounded silly, but we need to figure out how to do it, and that cogs just started turning and turning, and you know, it took you know, a couple of weeks before we could find some contestants. But she even helped with that. So a lot of the credit has to go to her for helping make it happen. But yes, she was a godsend. It was tons of fun. We had three really knowledgeable, fun guys that came on and competed. She kept score for us. Jac and I took turns reading all of the questions that I had created that day, and it was just it's just trivia and we're gonna We're gonna do it at least once a month moving forward, so if anybody's interested, you can go and you could watch it. It was a live stream, but obviously it's still there on the on the channel. Uh. The background that you see right now is one that I had made for the For the show, I did everything that I could to create the pomp and circumstance of your watching like a seventies or eighties game show. So we have backgrounds. I had fake commercials. Uh. So we ran trailers for our stuff during during it, so that we could give the guys a break because I actually created I think about seventy too many questions, but yeah, man, it was a lot of questions. It was so much fun, but it worked out. It was like two hours, like by the dot, and then when we hit two hours, we were like, okay, we're done. Yeah we got to get into the final jail on one of these. Next time you guys do it, I'll be, Oh for sure, it's so so fun. I won't be dressed out and blaming. I might have nothing but big gold chains onto a bunch of rings and yeah, right turn I've been I've been wanting to do like full on actual in character stuff for it too. Like my original plan was to kind of look like Bob Barker and have like the Bob Barker microphone and everything. But it for taking a couple of weeks to plan when it kind of when the day came to do it, it came faster than I expected, so I didn't really have time to do all of the extra stuff that I'll start slipping in. Yeah, maybe I'll have like this silly wig or just whatever we can do to just have fun with it, because that's something that kind of disappeared from the paranormal community. You're not allowed to have fun, and then if you have a different opinion, then you get locked in a box and they throw you in a river. Like it's gotten so serious it's not even like fun anymore. Like that was when we came into this. It was all meant to be fun, right, Like, we didn't come into this saying, hey, we're sasquatchros, we want to make money, give us your money. That wasn't what we came into this for. We came in this to have fun. Drew and I like Drew and I went like aside from like his wedding a couple of years ago, we didn't really see each other or talk for what ten twelve, thirteen years, Then all of a sudden we reconnected and we started this podcast. And we just did it to like reunite and have fun. And we had this. We made the documentary, the melon Head Documentary, and and then we just kind of went from there. And this all goes back to Drew's idea. This is you know, we had other people involved, didn't work out, and then it ended up it was just drewing myself. And the whole point of this was just like we were friends, let's reconnect, and Drew's driven out here to my house four and a half hours from where he lived to film a documentary in like twelve hours. He came out here in the afternoon and we filmed the entire documentary in six hours, and then he went home the next morning in between the two big snow storm and the two big snowstorms of the year, right and then and it was just and I mean, like I'm just saying this because like it was, this is meant to be fun, right like this this isn't. I mean, there are serious points. There are very serious things involved with the paranormal in that, but like there are so many people out there that just want to like get like v Bucks, they want to get their virtual dollars, their their grift. They want to get those you know, hate chats for ten dollars or whatever they might be, and that's cool, Like I'm not against that, but that's not what we're about. We were actually called rude for turning a donation down during the game show. Someone had asked about it and they wanted to make donations, and I, very politely, it was like, that's kind of not what we're that's not our thing, and that's appreciate the sentiment, but you know, if you are enjoying this, just enjoy it, watch it, keep it on in your background, like we're just here for the fun. And I received messages the next day that this person was parading around bad mouthing us, calling us rude, and it said that we don't know how to operate a show and stuff, and it was it was amusing because like the culture, especially for live streaming, has now been created as such that there's there's a relationship. You have your streamer and you have your chatters and the stream of these Yet exactly the streamers need to set those chatters up so that they're going to donate, and the only way to do that is to make them feel special, right, So it's almost like this little brainwashing that's that exists, and once those donations start coming, they feel important, they feel like they're part of the show. It's now a community thing. It's communal, so moving forward, that's the relationship between that creator and the audience. And that's great for those people. But because that's not the way we operate, they kind of don't know how to handle us on a live show. Uh, we're just kind of there. Like we said, for the fun, Artistic integrity comes first and foremost to me. You know, I put on a game show. Nobody else has ever put on a paranormal game show. It went two hours, it was extremely popular, it was extremely fun, and it's okay that somebody didn't like us because we didn't make him feel special by taking his money. But it's just that's not our grind and that's just never going to be our thing. I've said it on I Love, I said on my show, or I Know I've posted on the Facebook. But there is a lot of weird gatekeeping I've noticed within these communities, and there's a lot of self proclaimed experts, and if you have a difference of opinion, you're labeled is wrong. And there's a lot of infighting and arguing, Like it literally makes it to where no one wants to be involved in these type of communities because so you have an experience and you go onto one of these groups or whatever and you mentioned what happened to you, you're gonna get picked apart by a lot of people because it doesn't lie up to what they think. Were they fucking there? Like if Bryce would have come on there and told us his stuff, he gets on one of these groups, they're gonna be like, Wow, that's not what it was. It had to be this. How would you feel someone told you would you saw is wrong? I don't just like you said, like, were you fucking there? Yeah? Like that's the stuff that drives me crazy when it comes to these types of groups, is they're toxic anymore. And then there's podcasts out there that are now just I don't want to call them podcasts, but there's a lot of YouTube channels out there that are all about the grift in my opinion, Like they all pop up here and they're all wanting donations, and they're all spouting off all sorts of stuff and they're making shit up on the fly. And you see all these people donating money, donating money, donating money. If people want to donate to me, I'm not going to say no if that's what you feel like, but I don't. I'm not here for your money. I don't need your money. I never started a podcast for anyone's money. Like I have a good job. I started this to give a place for people to come on here and talk about their experiences because I never all like I could talk about mine, And I feel like a lot of people have lost that idea, Like if maybe they started with good intentions, but once the money started flowing, literally, it all went out the window. And everyone's in on the money. They want the money, they want the money. Yeah, Like I didn't even want to become monetized, and I was spending eighty five dollars a month just to do the damn podcast. It's a very expensive hobby to uh to get into. People don't realize that. And much like bands and garage bands, there are so many of them, and they set out for this and they have these goals and they don't reach them, and then you know, that's that's why so many podcasts fail within the first couple of months too, because they just they they're aiming for that, and it's just the wrong way to go about it. It's you know, if you if you truly love the paranormal, then figure out a way to enjoy doing a show about the paranormal. And if you know, money comes through that great. Like I said, as of now, that's not our thing, and I just want to give people an opportunity to speak. Like Brandon just said, I also have experiences that I'm laughed at for. I won't get it super into them because I believe our episode of Tin and Foil that's forthcoming, I get into a lot of that, including my UFO experience, and so if anybody wants to hear that, you guys can go check that out. But it's about giving people the voice, being the voice of the voiceless and our Prinifi. I do tons of merch for our Prinifi shop just for fun, because I like to do graphics design and I have the prod customer. Yeah. I have the profit margin set at zero, so if anybody buys anything, I don't see a dime on it. But that allows the low it's prices out of anybody on Prini five. Because I'm willing to do that. So, yeah, man, I'm listening. I'm not ignoring someone's asking me for a link. I'm trying to send them a link. Yeah, hey, guys, I'm gonna have to hop off here and uh everything, because I got to work in the morning. But Brandon, I appreciate you bringing me on man and JC Drew is really nice meeting you guys. Hey, find me, find me on Facebook, Let's talk more. Let's get you. Let's get you on Sasquatchers or wrestling Watchers, Wrestlingship. Yeah, definitely, definitely. All right, Well you guys have a good one, and thanks everybody for coming out to watch it. Yep, thank you, thank you, yep. But yeah, you know, and just kind of follow up on that, I have another show that I'm producing that's gonna go up on our our channel that I think a lot of people are gonna uh not be one hundred happy with because of some of it's some of the opinion pieces that are involved in it. But I'm actually very much looking forward to kind of addressing some of the politics behind the paranormal And you know, it's just another reason to continue to branch out beyond just calling ourselves sasquatchers because we have just a lot of stuff that we artistically want to try to accomplish. Yeah, there's there's a lot I would like to do, and I feel like what I'm doing now is basically all that I really can do. I would love to be able to do like actual documentary type stuff, like actually go to an area and film certain things. But I'd also like to be able to sit down and actually interview a person in person and like almost an interview, like an in person interview with someone, like record it and everything else like and almost released like a documentary. My idea was to try and find people in my area that have also had these weird canines. I've heard from several different people now have had the upright walking canine experiences from my area. I wish I could sit down with these people and make like a documentary of it, but I don't have that kind of time. I don't have that kind of equipment. Well, what I can say is, if you have an iPhone, you have pretty much everything you need. They're fantastic for this kind of thing, especially on the go documentary style, as long as you get like a lapel mic or something like that. They're actually I mean we have these like what these thirty dollars lapel mics that actually ended up being one of the greatest pieces of equipment we ever had. Yeah, they're they're actually fantastic for it for you don't you don't need to have red cameras to accomplish this, especially something like a documentary, you know, they don't. They don't have to be pristine and and look amazing and uh, it's just a I think if you found the time, I think you'd be able to pull it off. It's it's a lot easier than it. We're just come out here and stumble around the woods with Drew and I. Yeah, we're we're working on documentaries and that. Yeah, we have a bunch over the summer that we are that multi Drew has a big one. Yeah. Yeah, I'm working on a Pale Crawler documentary that may or may not merge with a larger project that I've been in the discussions with an individual about. But regardless of how that goes, I'm still working on that. We have a We grew up and this is another reason to kind of branch out. We grew up near a town called Paulo Pennsylvania, And in Paulo, Pennsylvania, they had a nuclear power plant and for years and years and years they they dumped this nuclear waste illegally all throughout a polo and they would dig it, dump it through it in the river that would that would travel by, and it was a I want to say it was a huge story, but it was literally up until a couple of years ago, still being kind of funneled. And what ended up It did end up in like big settlements. Eventually like a lot of people got money out of that, but then they died from cancer. So yeah, so there's a large portion of this town that's all gated off and you're not supposed to go past because of radiation. And they tried to dig it up a couple of years ago and get it out of there, but it was causing too much radiation innerce like in the atmosphere while they were digging it up and transferring it out. And they're still finding school buses that are just filled with it, that are buried ten feet underground. And so that's another thing that we're going to try to do over the summer is go to Apollo and make a documentary about that. And very much has nothing to do with the paranormal. Everything to do is how you know a conspiracy can happen in a small town and the giant financial conglomerates can ruin people's lives. I myself have an extra tooth in my mouth, and I always wondered if it was because of growing up near this polluted area, if I somehow am affected by that. But probably you mutant. Yeah, I'm literally a mutant because of these people. My dad worked there for a little bit and he died of cancer at forty seven. So if you have a topic that grips you and you feel like you want to get that film, you'll make it happen. Mm hmm. Like I said, I for me, it's all about the timing. I just between work, trying to podcast, trying to be a dad, trying to be a husband, trying to do all this other stuff. It's really hard to find the time. And that's why my podcast I don't even record to like nine o'clock is usually at that point everyone goes to bed. Yeah, yeah, that's so. It's it's the struggle, but it's a sacrifice I do. And again, like not to go off on a tirade here, but like we've talked, we talk off air, and I'm not gonna name drop people or anything, but like, there was just so many shady things that go on behind the scenes in this field, in the things that we do, and it drives me crazy. People that I looked up to that I thought were like cool people, I've realized they're not like people I've tried to work with, tried to reach out to, very very uh a lot of gatekeeping, and I feel like it's to relate this back to wrestling. Everyone wants that spot, they're all driving for that top spot, they want to be the top guyot. Yeah, yeah, it's the politics. Everyone's backstage politicking. That literally how I feel that goes on in almost any aspect of what we do. It is no matter where you're at, there's always those people. So yeah, that's a great comparison to because I was in the business and I saw that firsthand. And something that I've said multiple times is this paranormal field. It makes it look like kindergarten. Like it's insane how aggressive the politics are with this field, even compared to something as devastatingly terrible as the pro wrestling business. Like something that should be the most Carnie thing doesn't even compare to paranormal at all. No, Like I said, anyone that knows me knows, I'm not about that lifestyle. I'm not about out here to turn profit or anything that I'm doing. Like, whatever money I end up generating from these ads or whatever they end up being on the show, it's literally being used to basically pay for the podcast. I'm not out here making money left and right, It's not what that's about. I have a really good job. That's what I do during the day, and this is just my outlets that I don't do music anymore, right, And I mean that's pretty much the same for us. We're not making any money. Drew and I both have pretty decent jobs, and this is like, this is just what we do a couple of nights a week, right, Yeah, it's it's like my new hobby. I want to talk to people that have had strange experiences like I did because it helps me not feel so crazy about my own experiences. Right, I've never really had experiences, so I love I'm kind of just taking it all in, learning, you know, from it. And then on top of that, like it's a hobby. But at the same time, like, we do research too, right, so it's not just us jumping on here and having an interview. We've done hours and hours of research as well, so it's almost like a second part time job. Yes, Jesse does like talking to strange men on the internet, and he does it so, Hey, scrange strange, what is strange? You know what that is? Yeah, all right, steasy, I see you. Yeah, we have an interview coming up on Tuesday that I'm reading two books for, Like, I have to finish a book and a half of reading before this show on Tuesday. We take it. We take it very seriously. I think that you're able to do that and also still have fun with with something. Mm hmm. That's I think another thing that really sets us apart when these people talk to us, and I'll toot my own horn in this sense that you know, when people are done with us, they are always really happy and want to come back as soon as possible. I've never had an interview go outh or negative, and people just tend to really enjoy our company. And I think that's just because wife can't say the same. But yes, right, that's that's why I also have to record so late. That happens. It comes with the territory of podcasting. I've realized, so well, guys, we can probably about wrap this one up. Yep. It's been a pleasure talking with you guys again. I'm sure we will continue to talk because I don't have any too many podcasting buddies that I get to talk to draw me into that I was I left out. I'm not. I'm not very talkative sometimes, so you have to kind of poke and praud me a little bit. But Brandon, it's been awesome. I appreciate you bringing us on and always look forward talking to you now and in the future. Yep. I will definitely be in touch again. And like I said, Drew and I have been talking pretty much every day since we had those interviews. But well, anyone out there is still listening. 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