Tinfoil Tales: After Dark - Ep 5 with Matt Knapp

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw Ufo. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing. It don't like death. Welcome back, and Boil tells after dark, I don't know if anyone can hear me, or if Matt's out there, if he can talk of anyone can hear him. But I'm joined by Matt Napp from Bigfoot Crossroads and what's going on. Not much trying to see if the issues we've been having are working or not. I don't know if anyone can hear Matt out there. If you can, let me know. I don't know. I haven't heard yet. I can hear you, so supposedly no one can hear you, so I don't. I think you're gonna You're gonna have to jump over here on stream yard because apparently the call in feature is not working correctly, so that kind of sucks. No. I can hear people, but whoever calls in, I'll have to relay the message or trying for dingle the way of why it's not working. But it's a strange, strange thing. I had to working earlier, but it's not working now. So yeah, I see a nice shirt that is for anyone out there watching. This is the new Tenfoil Tel shirt that is in stock that I am selling. So if you would like to make a purchase, you can always send me a message and I will get you one. I'm doing twenty dollars shipped to you if you're in the US. If you're out of the US, it's going to have to be a little bit more because I've figured out the international shipping is expensive. It is not very easy. It's trying to do all that. There's matt all right now. They should be able to hear you. I know they are all just waiting to hear my voice. Everyone out there listening, thanks for coming on here tonight and checking it out. These live streams are always awkward for me because I don't like being on camera, so I usually do all my recordings and everything is just a screen. I don't ever have to see anybody and have to look at me. Then I do these live streams and it's like, why am I on here? It is a cool looking shirt, though, I mean I enjoy it. I got stickers of match it too, So everyone that's ordered a shirt, I've been sending them a sticker and a card as well. Oh wow, got the little business card and the little matching stickers. But that's a lot of bang for your buck, and that it is. I'm going to drop this banner, and I really hope the audio gets recorded on the recording process. But for anyone listening, I'll have to try and relay the questions or whatever. But anyone out there that has an experience and you would like to be on this, you can either call the number that I'm about to show or send me a message and I will send you the stream yard link and you will pop up on here with us. It'll bypass all of the call in bullshit that's apparently not working correctly. Because technology, especially when it comes to stream Yard, is awesome. I think anyone that watched last week's or last month's episode got to see and hear me ranting, raving about how stream Yard sucks. But that is the number. You call that number and then you put in your meeting ID and it'll bring you up over here into Zoom. And supposedly Zoom is sitting in the audio over to Streamyard, and I can hear everything from Zoom, but I don't think Matt will be able to hear it, and I don't know if the audience can hear it. Earlier it was working, but now it's not. So I guess if you want to talk to me, I will record the audio over on the Zoom side, and I'll put the whole thing together for a different episode. I guess for when the whole episode airs to listen to you in the podcast, were a little be put together and that works. So there's that. So again, anyone out there listening, if you would like to come on and share some of your experiences, now is the time you can call that number or send me a message, leave a comment, and I will make sure to get you on here with Matt and I. But while we're waiting, you want to let everyone know a little bit about yourself, your podcast and everything. I mean, sure. My name's Matt. I'm the host of Bigfoot Crossroads, a podcast. It's kind of focused on Bigfoot, but I get into other areas as well, interview witnesses about their experiences with bigfoot, dog man, ghosts, UFOs, anything unexplained. Your show is very similar to an extent like mine, same concept. Basically, I was actually just on an episode with you on your show about a month ago, and your episode with me will actually be airing next week. Yeah, because you're like seven months ahead. I try to be. I'm just I'm waiting for everyone to say they don't want to be on my show any then it drives up. Well, good thing I had all these episodes because I can stretch it out and go back to one episode a week and then maybe find new guests. But it's been good. I haven't had any issues lately and no complaints. Yeah, just keep on trucking, cranking them out, man. I keep glancing over to see if someone's trying to call in, and so far, No one's trying to call in there. I don't want to talk to that idiot. It's probably me, man, they don't want to talk to me. Now. These live streams are strange. I don't quite understand it. I don't know how it all seems to play into it. Like I said, my friend was supposed to I dog gonna hob on here with us, but he's not on here yet. It's a one of those things. But I'd have been doing some interviews lately on other shows, and each show that I've been going on has been on stream Yard, and they've given me nothing but issues. Today I'd mentioned to you off air that I heard nothing, but every time i'd say a word like it would just repeat itself into my headphones. Oh basic ya hola in the chat, what's up man, it's up? But no. And then yesterday someone else that I was interviewing, all they kept hearing were echoes. So I don't know what's going on in stream Yard ghosts in the machine. I've honestly debated on not even using stream Yard anymore because I can stream from Zoom. The only difference is with Zoom is I can't have the interaction like where they leave comments and stuff. I wouldn't be able to see it. I'd have to have something opened up on YouTube, which is doable, and then just stop paying STREAMYRD all together because I'm paying for something that sucks. Yeah, it used to be pretty cool whenever it first came out because it was something new and it was like the only option for this. But now there's other options out there, and I don't know. I don't know if they're cutting corners or what, but they seem to be awfully glitchy and problematic. I've not been able to stream the Facebook since the first time I did a live stream back in January. Wow. Every time it says it's going to Facebook, and then it says there is an error with Facebook, we cannot stream. So why do I pay forward to go to multiple streams we can only go to one. It doesn't really make a lot of sense. I did a live stream last year with our other show and we used Zoom and I didn't have a single issue with it, So I think that's probably the route I might end up going. And then I keep getting internet connection warnings here from good old stream yard. I want to get like a ceason assist from streamer complaining about that's probably why they're not working slander. It's not slander if it's true, though, is it. I mean that's kind of how it goes. Oh well, well, yeah, anyone out there, the lines are open Internet. The Internet is open. So if you want to come on here and talk to Matt and I now would be the opportunity. Otherwise we're just gonna chit chat and you guys are going to listen to us talk about some of our own stuff. I don't want to do that because your episode is getting ready to come out. So I was like, why, I'm sure you've had other things that have happened that we didn't talk about on that episode. You want to talk into some of that shit? I mean, yeah, man, I've had experiences and just about everything. Had a pretty crazy life. No dog Man though, haven't had a dog Man encounter. Don't plan on having a dog Man encounter. If you do, just give them belly rubs. I heard that works, yeah, yeah, and then whatever you encountered. I mean, I don't do you consider yours a dog Man encounter? No, I'm reluctant to say that. I even believe in dog Man one hundred percent because it doesn't make any sort of sense to me. I can get behind the idea of a bigfoot because biologically we are a primate that walks up right, so I could see her being a primate that walks up right. But evolutionary, why there's no such thing as a dog that should be able to walk like a person. But you saw it. You saw a canine on two legs walk away. I know, yeah, yeah, I agree it does. I don't like the name bigfoot either, but it's just everybody knows it has bigfoot, so I just use the word bigfoot. No dog man for me? Is I know what I saw? I saw upright, walking canine walk away. I still want to believe. It's so hard to just be like, yep, that's what I saw. Like there has to be some other explanation. I don't know what it is. I don't know why my brain's that way, but for some reason, I just always have to say there's got to be something else. He doesn't want to admit that it exists. Have you talked to Yohola Yohola Tiger of the War Cry podcast? I have not. Oh, you guys need to hook up. He does a podcast. He's a fellow Oki, a Native American that deep dives and all kinds of crazy weird stuff just like us does an awesome job, has some amazing stories. Nice. Yeah, we'll have to get connected here sometime. I'm taking the whole month of July off from doing my own show, so I will be open to appearing elsewhere. But I'm not planning on doing interviews any time during July, just because the plan was to try and get this barn in here and converted into a recording studio and everything else. But life decides that there are curve balls at you, so that might be on the back burner for a couple more weeks other than July and until I get some things paid. Yeah, I'd really like to get his take on your encounter and see what he thinks you encountered. He's got a pretty big knowledge base of weird stuff and what's out there. He's heard of all kinds of things, so he might know more information than we do about it, and that's a good possibility. I know I've said it before on stuff, but like this whole area that I'm from used to be Native American land, so there's a lot of lore about walking large black canines and wolves or whatever from this area. So it wouldn't surprise me if there's not something more going on than just less and blood walking person, dog or whatever you want to call it. I can't call it dog man. That has to be called something else, So I don't know. Like someone asked me the other day, they like, do you you don't call a dog man? Do I was like, not really, And so I just say I saw him upright walking Canaan, because that's what I saw. The whole dog man thing. It doesn't add up in the sense that it didn't have the humanoid hands or anything like that. It looked like just a dog to be like, yo, dude, I'm want to walk off now. So yeah, kind of sounds like a trickster to me. And those are bad. I don't like those. I try to avoid them. I try to avoid any monster pretty much. Well, we got someone over here waiting, so I will bring them on. Hello, Welcome to the show. Hi Brandon, It's Laura. Hi Laura. How are you guys that I'm doing well? How are you doing? I don't know if they can hear you or not. Are you to hear her? I hear nothing. Okay, they can't hear you, so I can only speak for myself though. Okay, well I'm here, hello, not working. I hear our. Yeah, I can hear you, but I think there's a delay on the whole other end. So okay, all right, so it's not going to work. I mean I can. I'm recording this so I can add this into the episode, so I don't think anyone lies. I don't know if anyone out there lives be able to hear it, but I'll be able to put it in for when it gets posted as an episode. Okay, well, I've had big foot encounters. I definitely don't want to meet a dog man. But if you would like to hop on the screen and call on that way, I can give you a link to click on that if you would rather do that so we can all hear you. Okay, how would I do that? If you would like to? Are you friends with me on Facebook or anything like that, because I can send you the link through there. Yeah I'm Laura from episode ninety Okay, yeah, okay, I will. I will send you the link here in just a second. Matt, you want to just talk while I'm busy? Sure? How's everybody doing, Hello, Courtney, I see you're going to a Bigfoot conference in Florida. That should be fun. And then there's another conference coming up in Louisiana this year in August. That. Yeah, those are all big deals. Lots of conferences going on right now. I know the Ohio conference just kind of ended this past month. It's a pretty big one that a lot of people go to there. There's just a lot of conferences popping up everywhere with a lot of speakers. So if you get a chance to attend a conference, I would highly suggest do it. You can meet all those people that you hear on the podcast, and you can ask questions firsthand and network with other people that are into the same stuff as you. It's pretty good thing to be a part of, for sure. The only one this year. Also, Wow, Okay, New Orleans has a rugaroo festival. Wow, that's pretty cool. I actually talk to a guy about his rugaroo sighting down in the swamps of Louisiana, a very early tell of dog Man. While we're talking about dog Man, you know where wolves go back forever, And I think there's just a lot of different names for what people are describing as dog man. I don't think it's really as new as everybody thinks it is. There's a lot of things with dog man does seem to be I think they've been around a lot longer than what people understand. If you go through history, there's been reports of dog men for hundreds of years. Like even you had the werewolf trials, you had all sorts of stuff. In Europe, they were called werewolves. But what is a werewolf? Is it a dog man? A dog man? Like werewolf, people change into these things. I don't think these people are changing into these creatures, but I think maybe what these creatures are or whatever they're seeing is the same thing. Yeah, I think a lot of things could be getting lumped under one single label. I had an interesting conversation today totally unrelated a dog man, but the exact opposite. Actually something I hadn't really heard that much about, a secondhand story talking about cat people. Have you ever heard about cat people? Yes? And no. I've someone's that I need to interview someone because I had a cat person experience and I never heard from that person, so I haven't ever really dived into it. But that's like the only time I've ever heard of it. I've talked to one person I was interviewing them for my show, and they were relating the story from someone they knew that was talking about cat people and having grown up around this family of cat people in the woods. But the way that they were describing them, the person I was interviewing just assumed that they were talking about bigfoot and were just calling it by that name. And then today another former guest that I had on sent me a text message and was asking me if I had ever heard of cat people because he was at work talking to some coworkers about bigfoot stuff, and a lady that they work with said that she had never seen a bigfoot, but around her grandmother's property there was cat people that she grew up around, and she went pretty in depth talking about them and her experiences growing up as a kid, and like how her grandma used to get mad at the cat people and like yell at him and stuff, and described them as like these really large, bipedal hair covered creatures that had basically kind of like a cat ish type face and like cat ears, but otherwise pretty much sounded like a bigfoot, and told me a story about how she came out of the house one time. Her grandmother used to have a big garden and would sell vegetables at a local farmers market. And they came out of the house to leave for the farmers market, and there was one in the back of the pickup truck like getting the vegetables, and her grandma like yelled at it or something, and it stepped out of the bed of the truck and had one foot in the bed of the truck and put the other foot on the ground and just stepped out. And she said it was as a little girl. She guessed a like ten feet tall. The only thing I've remember for some reason, my wife I just binge watched last year that HBO showed True Blood and they had cat people on there. Yeah that I never ever heard of anything about like cat people before. So other than that show. And I guess if you ever played the older Elder Scrolls games, the kajis here what here cadgets they were. And there was that movie Sleepwalkers, people that were like wear cats. They were weird because they were afraid of normal cats. I didn't understand that one. And he was like sleeping with his mom. That was also kind of weird. Yeah, it's Stephen King's a weirdo. There you go. Well, Laura is now waiting to hop on hear someone bring her up so everyone can actually hear what she want to talk about. There you go. How you doing? Hi? There, Hi Brandon. I think everyone can hear you. Yeah, I'm good to see you. When you said Laura liked, I wasn't sure who was like you said Laura, I was like, well, okay, I've talked to several different people, so it's always hard to Yeah, how are you doing tonight? Well I can hear yeah, I can hear them. Okay. I just wanted to throw in my bigfoot encounters that we had a few years ago. Here. I owned one acre land out in the country. There's woods across the street from me and cowfields behind my property, and just a few neighbors on either side. And at the time, the property to my left was vacant for many years. It was an abandoned trailer and there were some huge old trees. And one day I was sitting in bed with the windows open, and there was just a very light rain with no wind, and all of a sudden I heard a huge tree fall, like it just fell over. You could hear all the branches crackling as it fell between other trees, and I thought that was really strange. But then other things started happening. Where I noticed up the road where there's the cow field, the cow barn is there were trees bent over from about eight or ten foot up and they were just like snapped down and bent. And right near there was a stream of cattails, which I've heard, you know, bigfoot could eat those, But you know, I was just watching these things. And then one day, one day, my bedroom window was open again and it was dark, very dark, and I heard this very loud yell. It was like facing my house, and it was like like an imitation of an owl and a monkey, and it went wo ah, but at the end of the eye it went higher up and pitch, and there's no way I could imitate that. But it was very loud, and my mental impression of what I was hearing was like it was a giant caveman or something because it was so loud. But this long monkey yell with an owl at the beginning very strange. And then a few months later, my sister in law had been living with me, and she used to smoke, so she would go out on the porch to smoke all the time. She kept coming in every night, going, something's growling at me, there's something out there growling. And I would go out and I would listen and I wouldn't hear anything. And this happened for weeks, and I was telling her, you know, like Sasquatch chronicles, stories of you know, how I believe Bigfoot is real and what was happening, and she just didn't believe it at all. So one night, the two of us were just standing out there by the road because it was a beautiful night. There were a lot of stars, and we were just enjoying the night, very quiet, and all of a sudden, across the road in the woods, there was a huge loud crack, and she grabbed my arm and said, what was that? And I said, that sounds like a tree knock, like I've been telling you about. And she would just gripping my arm really tight. And the next thing we heard was two voices overwhere where the tree knock was maybe two hundred foot away from us in the woods, and it was a very distinct language. It wasn't like gibberish. It sounded like us, like a female and a child talking to each other. And then immediately after that, over behind my house in the cowfield on the other side of us, was had to be a huge male and a younger male answering them back. And Judy was so scared she turned and ran into the house and slammed my front door. And after that they went quiet. But before she ran in the house she said, oh my god, they are real. She just turned and ran, and I was kind of upset that she slammed the door because I wanted to hear more. It was fascinating. You could tell just by the the tone of the voice. It was extremely large lung capacity, and they were just like speaking in a normal voice for them, I guess, But I wanted to wait and see them, see if they would cross the road immediately. But nothing ever happened after that. They seemed to have moved on after that. Are you like, what part of Wisconsin are you from? This is the northern part. Oh, I'm in upstate New York. Now they're aware from No, Well, we lived in Wisconsin at one point. We were from I'm the one who went from Arkansas to Alaska to Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, and New York. Okay, I remember you mentioned before you in Wisconsin. But I'm trying to think, like I interviewed someone recently in there talking about some merrich stuff in Wisconsin. Maybe I'm just getting the too confused. I just had an interview that came out the other day about upstate New York, so and cool, trying like an ass or anything. But like when I have all these interviews, and it's hard to keep track of every location for people, so I apologize for that. But did you ever all the details are? Yeah, I say, did you ever fully see anything? But you can definitly say would look like a sasquatch or you said you heard the tree breaks and this other stuff, but like, I wasn't sure if you ever if anyone actually saw something. I wish I had. That's what I was waiting for, was for them to cross the road and meet up with each other so that I could see them. But I think the door slam just spooked them and they realized way were they're listening, So I didn't actually see them. So I think that's called the Class B encounter. Or you hear stuff and you like I saw evidence of the tree breaks and all that, but nothing else. I had to change up the ticker just because the sound the voices and Matt you got any questions, Oh yeah, I got a thousand questions. Uh. First, do you have a lot of neighbors? Are there people that live around your place? Yeah, there's two neighbors to the left of me before the corner of the road, and one neighbor to the right of me, and then a couple across the street. But there's how far apart in front of me. Let's see my closest neighbor. Well, no one was on that property for when this happened. So the closest neighbor up to the corner is maybe four or five hundred yards. And this is the only period of time that you noticed anything out of the ordinary. Yeah, yeah, it was about a three year span of time where things would just have and occasionally. And then my daughter who was across the road, she actually didn't believe me and my daughter, my sister in law, she didn't believe us until one night she was taking the trash out behind her house at two in the morning, and you heard what sounded like monkey yells all in the woods behind her. Do you guys use trash barrels where you live. And then she said, Mom, now I believe you because that just wasn't normal. She said, it was like a group of them whopping it up over there. Repeat that. Do you have Yeah, yeah, we have trash cans that we put out that get picked up once a week. What about uh like outdoor food for peasants, like cat food and dog food and stuff. Yeah, there's a lot of feral cats around. We have a ton of wildlife, so we've heard everything from coyotes to foxes and mountain lions and black bears. We've heard all of it and we recognize it and normal owls. So this was something with a huge lung capacity. These things were so loud it just blew me away when you hear it in person. I mean, you hear about other people's stories, but when you hear it in person, you instantly know what they're talking about, this huge lung capacity, Like they weren't even trying to be loud and they were Yeah. I've heard the uh talking one time myself, And of course I can't say definitively that it was a bigfoot. I don't know what it was, but it definitely sounds like talking. I couldn't understand it. I didn't know the language or anything, but it sounded like two mill individuals having a conversation, just like anybody else would, except it was, you know, in the middle of the night, out in the middle of the woods, without any flashlights or anything. So I don't know what else it could have been. But like, the type of activity that you're talking about is not, you know, uncommon at all. And like the fact that you were talking about I believe it was your sister that would go outside and smoke. I mean, I've taken a lot of reports over the years where people had sightings and encounters because they were like stepping outside in the middle of the night's talk on the phone or stepping out to have a cigarette or whatever, and caught these things just kind of watching them. We were kind of like entertainment for them. I mean, the stuff you're saying, yeah, you know, it certainly goes in line with everything that I've heard over the past, you know, twenty five years. It made me wonder because she kept judy, she kept hearing growling when she was smoking, So I wondered if maybe they don't like the cigarette smoke or something. Yeah, yeah, it could be, or maybe they're maybe they were trying to, you know, raid trash cans or get some cat food somewhere or something, you know, And she was standing out there in the way, and yeah, they were getting pissed off about it. Yep, it could be. And there are a ton of dier around here too, and streams and ponds, and so there's a good food supply for them. Where's the nearest fresh water source from where you live right? Maybe two hundred yards away between my neighbor's property and the new guy who lives there. Yeah, so like I can hear the stream at night when it's running in the spring, and there's a beaver dam up the road that connects to that stream. Brandon, one of your other guests, I believe, was talking about giant beaver's in Canada. And when I first moved here in nineteen eighty six to this house, my boyfriend and I think I told you that story. My boyfriend and I came upon what we thought was a black bear dead in the road. So he was six foot four and he got out to move it, to drag it out of the road, and it was a beaver. He picked it up by the back legs and held it like this up over his head and that was the only way he could get the nose to clear the ground. And I looked at its teeth down by the edge of the road, and the teeth were like four inch long yellow teeth, and he had a huge, three long paddle tail. So it was a giant beaver. And I called Encon and they came and got it. They called us back like two weeks later and said it was the second largest beaver ever found in New York State. We were floored, Like he said that they that beavers never stopped growing their entire eye. Yes, so when you see a giant one, they're very old, like the normal ones are like thirty sixty pounds. This thing was over one hundreds. What's that? I wonder how long beavers actually lived for, Like was their lifespan? Yeah, that's a good question. But that's what the UNCON guy told us, that they ever stopped growing their whole life. You know, beaver's will attack you. Just for the record, have you ever seen any of those YouTube videos where they're jacking somebody up. No, Yeah, they chew down trees, man, They cut down trees with their teeth. Imagine what that does if they get ahold of your leg, man, Like, I'm pretty sure they've killed somebody before. Yeah, that'd be a hell of a way to go. Man. Never heard that an angry beaver. There is a scary There is a place in Indianapolis at the bar, and it's called I thought it was the Angry Beaver, but it's not. I think it's Wild Beaber. You said angry Beaver to me, you think that that was the place, But I'm pretty sure it's called Wild Beaver Saloon. And I thought they had there's something there with an angry beaver, like when you said that. I've been at last one time, or one or two times or four years ago, and I vaguely remember something called angry beaver. That's right, Wood Warrior, the chances are never zero. M hm, that's true. Oh, World Warrior. Okay. I was gonna say, perhaps this is a warrior and a beaver and hiding a wood Warrior. Good one. Well, Laura, I appreciate happing bag on here and talking with me tonight, sharing man and I in the audience. I know we didn't really get to talk to at so, but yeah, if there's anything else, feel free to share it because I don't have anyone hob it on here. So well, there are more things if you don't mind that. I didn't add my story when I talked to you on episode ninety seven. After my son in law and my daughter moved across the road from me, they were seeing metal balls, huge black metal balls, floating over their yard. And it started with one day they were maybe five miles away. They were heading up to my house and my grandson said, look, what's that mom? And she looked over to this rock face like a cliff and there was a huge metal ball about twenty thirty feet across. She just said, it was black, and it was hovering in mid air, and there was a military helicopter pinning it basically not touching it, but like it was holding it up against this cliff wall so he couldn't go anywhere. And they actually were shocked because they'd never seen anything like that. And then it was after that, up here across the road from me, in their yard, smaller ones were coming into their yard after they cut down some trees, and they were maybe I think, he said, my son in law said, like five six feet across, but they were the same kind like black metal balls, but smaller. And when he noticed it, he saw that his dogs were staring at the wind window, but not barking. They were just there. But it started moving from the tree stump over towards the house and it set off their they're outside floodlight, which is a motion sensor, and as soon as he saw that, then the thing took off and flew away. So we don't know what those are related to, if their UFO type stuff or what. But then after that we started seeing a lot of helicopters, you know, around the area for weeks after that. Those are the black helicopter things, weren't they. Yeah, the military ones, yeah, yeah. And my son in law was in the army for ten years too, so he was actually stationed up in Alaska where I used to live as a kid, Fort Wayne, right when I was in Fairbanks. My son in law years later was up there too, and he was He told me that he was guarding something underground, like an underground base. He was told to guard a certain doorway and to shoot to kill whatever tried to come out of it, So he never knew what was in there. And as soon as he asked what was in there what he was guarding. They transferred him to Afghanistan, where he could have died a couple of times. He almost did die, but they don't want questions asked in the I've heard you told. Yeah, I've heard stories about certain doorways and military operations and even other military not so much military, but like other contracts, contractors or whatever that work for the military industrial complex that have these things. And have even heard stories about stuff like that that place, Oak Ridge and Tennis. There's all sorts of different stories about things coming through doorways and portals and all sorts of stuff. It's it's hard to uh really know what really going on those doors. Yeah, that's what he said. He started really wondering because he could see shadows moving behind it. I don't remember if he said it was like an actual door or if it was some kind of laser doorway guard type of thing, but he could see shadows moving behind it, and that's what made him curious. Yeah, but he's not the kind of guy that can just sit there and you know, I wonder. Yeah, to me, my curiosity to probably get the best of me. That's why I don't work in a job where I have there's a whole lot of strict rules of what I can and can't do, because I'd be snooping around and probably getting in trouble. Yeah, you'd be spending your days trying to open the door. Yeah, yeah, you're in big trouble if they had me out in the middle of nowhere guardian a door anything that got out, Like, I'm quitting. I'm going a wall immediately. Are you kidding me? Yeah? Me too. I don't even know what you would like, just the thought of what you're you're sent there to do, and your your post is to sit here and guard this store, Like, okay, why am I guarding the door? Will shoot whatever comes through? So you're thinking, is that a person coming through? No, don't worry about don't ask questions. What. Yeah, here's the thing about the government and the military and all that, Like, there was an incident where a guy saw he like lived by some air force base or something. I'm going to get this completely wrong, so if anybody knows this story, I'm sorry. He lived by some base and he started seeing strange lights in the sky at night and some kind of weird stuff going on, and so he started talking about it, and he was actually seeing some sort of top secret military aircraft that they were testing at night. But they got a guy from like the CIA to become friends with this guy and convince him that he was seeing UFOs, So they wanted him to just start sounding crazy so everybody would ignore what was actually going on at the base and find out about this secret military aircraft and story. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, I have an episode about that. So, like you know, everybody's always talking about how you know it's the other way around, but you never know, like what the military is going to do or what they're going to tell you. There could have been absolutely nothing behind that door. It might have just been an experiment to see what a soldier will do whenever he's putting that position. It could have been anything. It could have been an empty storage room, it could have been a broom, closet. There's just no telling with them, right, I agree, it could be I'll ask you questions. Yeah, yeah, that's very possible. But I had somebody tell me that the gray beings that I have seen all my life and was abducted by, I had them tell me that they believe it was military guys all in suits. And I said, you would have to have the most anorexic, skinny like skin and bones soldiers all the same height. How would that be possible Because they're all so skinny and all the same height, like four and a half feet, it wouldn't be possible to have real so soldiers in these tiny little uniforms. What I saw was was very real. Mm hmm. I don't. I've heard that by several different people that they claim basically the military is behind it all and they're the ones that are abducting people and making them think they're aliens or whatever else for some sort of secret experiments. At the end of the day, I don't really think that is the case, but that's just one of those things that gets tossed out there. I think a lot of it is just people trying to explain it, you know, trying to figure it out, since yeah, right, and that's human nature to try and figure things out. And the thing is, if you have not had one of these experiences, then you don't know what to believe. You're just gonna come up try to come up with some logical explanation that makes sense to you. But if you've gone through it, you can't you can't deny the reality of what you saw. No. I think psychiatrists try to explain it away, like we were talking about, you know, a cover story or whatever for trauma. But in reality, they've they've most most of them have not gone through any experience like that. So they'll try and say, oh, you had sleep paralysis. Well, I've had sleep paralysis myself, and it was not like my abductions. It was not comparable. I couldn't. I don't know. Yeah, you have a delay or there's a delay going on here to second delay, but I don't know how to light everything like with abductions of sleep paralysis to the military, like all the stuff, all the weird things that happen. And it seems like once someone starts having experiences, they've had experiences elsewhere to like have bigfoot and stuff, You've had other instances like I've noticed there's a trend with a lot of things to where when people have some experiences that all kind of interconnects to each other. You're right, Yeah, I've heard that too. I've heard other people who have had multiple experiences like I've had, including telepathic things and psychic like I've had dreams that have come true all my life. I've had premonitions that have come true. So there's just a certain type of person there. They are somehow connected in some weird way. Yeah, I can't say one way or the other because to my knowledge, I've ever had anything like that happen, so it's hard to relate to someone who's been through that. I'm just going that, Yeah, yeah, it's uh, there's a lot of weird things that I've had happened, but it's I always try and write it off as something else. My skepticism is even skeptic against skeptical against my own encounters. But that's just my own stupidity, I guess. On the whole situation, there is some stuff that I've got probably questions, so yeah, let them rip. It's human figurable. Yeah, I figured out when we're mores done talking, I'll bring it because this is completely off topic and has nothing to do with what she's talking about, So okay, I can be done. That's fine. Yeah, these questions are about the rise of AI, so it's a it's not a similar to what we've been talking about, so I told them i'd bring this up. So well, Laura, thanks for coming on here and sharing with us night. I appreciate it all right, good talking to you guys. This is a question from Jessica Carzoli, who I pronounced her name right, that she's watching she can't call in, but she wants to know how we both feel about the rise in AI being used to fake pictures and evidence and how it may push back and hinder any type of real study into the unknown or into an unknown creature. Since it is someone actually did it come up with a real picture evidence, would it be automatically met with skepticism? Hu? I mean, first, is she AI? I believe we have an interview scheduled, so I hope not, But it wouldn't be surprising today because I think a lot of things are AI. Yeah. I mean recently, a YouTube video it's not really a video, but a YouTube upload was released of Bob Gimlin, who was present during the Haarising Gimlin film filming of the Bigfoot creature at Bluff Creek. A video came out on YouTube of him admitting that it was fake, talking to his wife I believe, and about how the world was going to be upset whenever the information finally comes out that they had faked the video. It was entirely AI generated and has caused kind of a stink in the big foot world. So, you know, whenever it comes to the AI stuff, it's kind of something that's been going on already before AI was ever around. If I look at something that was created with AI, to me, it's easily recognizable, Like I can tell the difference immediately just by looking at it, just like I can tell the difference if I'm looking at CG or you know, an image from a video game that's been captured or whatever. So the first part is it's going to cause problems with the general enthusiast commit community of these things, But as far as hindering actual research, unless AI gets a lot better, it's not really going to be a problem. The people that are actually researching the different phenomenons are fully aware of AI and have tools out there that can help them weed those things out. So, yeah, the stuff goes viral on Facebook, but to actual researchers, most of them aren't falling for it. I've seen a few things. There is a recent Pilo Seene set of photos going around that, you know, some pretty famous people attach their names to. Whenever I first saw them, I instantly recognized them as fabricated. I didn't see what the problem was. So I don't know if these people are just using it as clickbait, which I think is the case in a lot of times. But for the most part, this stuff isn't going to full real researchers. I mean, there's programs out there that you can use to analyze photos that will instantly tell you if it's an actual photograph or there's any sort of AI or digital manipulation used. So just that alone pretty much solves the problem. I embraced the AI at this point because I figure they're going to take over. So if they're out there listening AI overlord, just know I'm on your side. Oh you want in huh? I don't want to be turned into one of the slaves or whatever. Maybe I'll gets enough ass and I'll be one of their one of their servants in a different way. But no. Do you think it's strange how quickly AI has come about, how prevalent it's been in the last two to three years. I mean, yeah, to a certain extent, but it's also like one of those things where they finally let the public have it, and that's what humans do. I was talking to somebody the other day about how, like it's kind of funny, you know, humans being humans, Like we get access to AI, and the first thing we do is start making like all these ridiculous photos of like the Pope and hip hop clothing, Like we start making songs that never existed, Like we're doing things like that, you know, we're making internet memes with it instead of like using it to cure cancer or something. When I first come across mid Journey, there was like Dolly or whatever it was called, and I didn't have access to that. But mid Journey came about and it was about two years ago now, and I started making all sorts of artwork and it was all like creepy stuff whatever. That's how I made my first tenfoil tel's artwork for the podcast as I used AI, and at the time, I was one of the few people that had access to mid Journey because at that it wasn't open publicly. You had to get an invite from someone to get in the list. And someone invited me to this discord and I started generating things and they wanted you to start paying because I'd used all my free ones. So my stupidity of wanting to create things. I paid the money, and then within a couple of weeks my bank account got hacked. Let me get some of the mid Journey credits. Man, Yeah, my bank account was hacked, and conveniently, I believe it was in Seattle's where that might've been San Francisco, somewhere on the West coast, but it's the same area where mid Journey supposedly being made at. Someone tried to use Uber and tried to use my debit card number, and then they tried to take money out of an ATM with a big debit card that was linked to my bank account. The only connection I had was mid Journey, and I literally just paid them thirty bucks and then like a week or so later, I'm getting scammed by someone in the same town where this thing is being created at. So I canceled my mid Journey and I've never been on that journey since then. I've been using programs, but i'd never heard of AI stopped doing that before up until then. And now all of a sudden, you've got them making music, they're making videos, they're making all sorts of stuff, and it's it just seems like they're a huge boom within the last two to three years for it, and I don't know where it's came from. I mean, it gave people the ability to be creative without being creative. You know, you don't have to have talent to start doing artwork and music and video and narration and everything else under the sun. I thought it was weird that when you people are selling it. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of weird. It's people are selling their artwork now and like they're using AI artwork and it's like, man, I mean they're calling themselves artists. That's that's where the problem is. I'm an AI artist. No, I mean you're not. You know how to type in some work, you're a typer. But I think it's funny that everyone had the idea and belief that when AI comes are going to take our jobs from us, they're going to replace us. They're going to be taking this from us, They're going to be doing this, and it ended up being the people that were the artists that are getting stuff taken away, like the people that draw things, that people that write, the people that make music. Yeah, that's the stuff that the AI is going after. It was never the industry of work. Everyone thought they're going to have the easy jobs and they're going to get replaced by robots. No, the robots are coming after the artistic people. Yeah, and the AI is just using artists work. That's where you've been created to created stuff. So I mean, I'm one of those people that on this particular part of it, I side with the artists and I will continue to support my artist friends as long as I can. But you know, artwork, original artwork, you know, getting logos and stuff done, as you know, is expensive, and AI is a resource. It's a tool that can be used for free. So I understand why a lot of people are turning to it. But whenever it comes to, you know, the subject of using it to you know, make a fake Bigfoot photo for instance, that kind of stuff really doesn't have anything to do with the actual advancement of the research side of things. Like researchers aren't paying attention to the latest viral photo on the Internet. They're paying attention to like their own trail cam photos and like trailcam photos they get from other people and things like that. They're not focused on whatever's going viral. And I think at the end of the day, people are just going to use AI to fake stuff as a way to make money. They're just trying to cash in on it. I feel like this is just me being a bitter asshole at this point. I've paid someone five hundred dollars. Actually, was just talking to someone that bought one of these beautiful shirts that I'm wearing here. Not trying to plug anything or something, but I paid someone five hundred dollars for artwork when I'd band stuff and went and played a show, and the octopus design that was used as the most prevalent part of the artwork, someone had a koozy with that same octopus on and I went up to him. I was like, how the hell did you get that? Like, oh, the stock image? And I'm like, why the hell did I just pay someone five hundred dollars for artwork when they were using stock images? That was some guy in Texas. So like, when you go back to it, like these people that were paying as artists, are they actually artists? Are they just good at taking something that someone else has done and put it together. That's essentially what AI's doing. So I guess that's rubbed me the wrong way. And I'm just like, you know what, I've paid my dues, and you're these quote unquote artists are ripping other people off and using stock images, so I'll just do the same damn thing. I mean, yeah, yeah, Unfortunately that's the case sometimes. Now behind me, right up here, I don't if anyone can see it. That is a artwork that my friend he drew. He's an artist. I bought that hawk. Yes, that is him. I was talking to him earlier. I'm going to purchase the rest of his artwork, and what I do get my studio put together, I'm going to have his artwork all in there. That was something we just talked about. So I hope here soon I'll have them print it for me and I will be able to get those. But I will still support people to do the actual artwork. I know that they're actually the ones doing them. But when it comes to finding someone on the internet and the ones that charges me an arm and a leg, no, I'm not doing that anymore. That's just the bitterness of paying out of pocket to someone and then finding your artwork being used elsewhere too. Do you think we'll ever see the day where you go to a concert and just it's just some guy on the stage that presses a button. That happened during twenty twenty, didn't it. I thought that's where the whole life started. They were doing like live concerts and you had to watch them from home. But it would be funny to go to a show and seeing one person on stage hitting a button. That wouldn't be surprising because I've played shows and looked out into the crowd and then I didn't see anybody but one person. So like roll reversal, someone asked where do we get those shirts? If you would like to buy one of these shirts, you can shoot me a message on Facebook and I will make sure to get that to you. I'm offering them for twenty dollars. That includes shipping if you are in the US. So if you're interested in getting one, I've got sizes from small to four X, so hit me up on there or you can send me an email, whichever way works for me. That's cheap, man, It is cheap, And this isn't even This is not a ploy to sell T shirts for you. I told you this in private before you ever asked me to come on here. I still say twenty dollars, man, that's a hell of a deal. That's cheap for sure. Everyone that I've said that to has been like, Okay, that's really cheap. I was talking to someone yesterday, like in person is of my son's ball practice, and I said, I have to go pick up my shirts, like oh shirts, and I showed them what it was like, Hell, yeah, what are how much you're going to charge her? I was like twenty They're like twenty bucks for a T shirt. That's a good deal. I was like, maybe I'm underselling what I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you everybody, Like I asked my friend Sean Parker of the Sasquatch experience. He just went to the Ohio conference and he said, everybody there was twenty five dollars in up and you're including shipping. So well, without letting the world know my secrets of how I do things, my wife has this. She does her own printing stuff for other things. She didn't print these shirts, but she has a scale and she can print out shipping labels and stuff. So I've been able to figure out the pricing for shipping and basically if I'm breaking even, that was like my biggest concern. So we've averaged out each shirt cost about five dollars to ship. So as long as I, like I said, as long as I'm breaking even to me, that's I'm not losing anything. I just think it's cool. I did the same thing with banded stuff, Like we used to sell our band T shirts for ten to fifteen dollars, depending on how much we had to pay for the shirt. What we were always so much cheaper than everyone else, and I thought, well, people would actually buy them because they're cheaper, and then we still only sold a few here and there, and I was just like, we had amazing artwork too, and I paid lots of money for that artwork, and people were like going and buying the plain black and white shirt for like thirty dollars. I'm like, I have one this guy like a bunch of colors for fifteen half the price. Dude. I'd go to a concert and a T shirt. It's like forty five bucks them up, you know. That's we go to the stuff around here, like we're lucky to get ten people in the door. That sounds like a something Ed and I would be talking about on the dark side of the scene. But that's the truth. Like shows around here, for especially like death metal type stuff is you and far between where people actually want to buy anything. That's what everyone kept telling me yesterday, like, and this is kind of economy. Twenty dollars is a great deal. My philosophy was and I quote my friend Jared from years ago. He came to He's a tall, skinny kid, the subway guy. No, not that guy. That guy can rotten jail as far as I'm concerned. Uh. He basically came in and he's wearing like a three or four extra. It was huge on him. He's like, look what I got a dollar journal had a big old cat like a kitten on the froz. It's just some weird purple kitten. He got up for like two dollars. I think it was at Goodwill. He's like, look all the fabric I got. And I was like, fabric, are you gonna repurpose that? Man? He was so proud of how big the shirt was and how much fabric was on it, and he got it for two dollars, and like, I guess that's my mentality now. I was like, well, I guess if you can get a lot of fabric for cheap, then that's a good thing. So maybe that's why I subconsciously saw my stuff for so cheap. Now I have told people I was like the three x, two X, three X, and four x to make them are a lot more expensive. I don't understand why a small to an extra larger all the same price, but when you start getting bigger than an extra large, the price is almost double. And then when you get up to like four X, they were like almost four times the price of the shirt that I was getting for the other sizes. So those bigger sizes, when people order them, I still sell them for twenty bucks. I'm actually I'm cutting a pretty close of breaking even. Yeah, I'm a fat dude. We've been getting screwed and clothing forever. Man, Oh you're fat, You're gonna pay more. That's just the way it. Yeah, I got plenty of jokes. Not everybody likes them, but I still got them. No, that's the thing, Like, I think these shirts came out good. I ordered there is the website, the merch store that I had online. I ordered shirt from there and it came to me crooked and for some reason, like I don't know if every shirt's coming crooked to people, and they ordered them, so I don't even really know if people should go to the website. But someone else ordered one and it was straight, so I don't know how the hell won it. Like I the last live stream I Bryce was on here and he had the Werewolf the dog Man Won or whatever you want to call it, and he was wearing that one and it was straight. I was like, well, why the hell did mine come out crooked? Just tilt your head now. Maybe it's just the way my shirt. Maybe I sit like this too much and then it comes crooked. I don't know. No. I got a T shirt of a B Arthur from Golden Girls exposing myself and it's like off center, so I won't wear it. And I got it off like Tea Spring or whatever. That's where my shirts came from. So I have a feeling it must just be a Tea Spring thring. Yeah, it probably is. They claim they're one of the best out there, well so far. I I'm not going to say you're the best. And she's thrown up gang signs. It's not just I just wanted to be It's not just a picture of the Arthur because that would be weird for me to have a T shirt with B Arthur on it. Hey, I can still sing the Golden Girls song, so it's all good, but no, for real, like again, support local. I went to my local print guy. Shout out to Shane at Cheapy Squeegee. So if anyone needs a shirt and go to Cheapy Squeegee on Facebook. The dude is awesome. He's probably one of the cheapest guys you'll ever find the dise bringing. So shout out to Shane for knocking these out in less than twenty four hours, so it was a pretty big order. What's the name Cheapy Squeegee? Dude? Props on being able to say that. It is a tony question just thinking about it, I want to say chepy Squeegee. Yeah, Cheepy Squeegee, Shane wrote is his name. He actually used to be in a band years ago. He was one of the first local bands that I'd ever seen play, so he kind of put me on my I told him this too. I was like, you've kind of projected me on the local band thing. He was in a punk band back in the late nineties and early two thousand's, and my junior year of high school, I was like, Oh, these guys are awesome and they're just a band. From twenty miles up north from where it lives. But to me, I've never seen a local band like that before, so I thought it was shit, and well, let me hope. We wanted to start doing music. We want to start our own band. And we were awful. But you know what, twenty something years later, I'm still trying it. I'm still awful, but I don't quit. I say I don't quit. But here I am sitting in the baby I thought you were you're thinking it, weren't you. I'm trying to think of a Saskatchewan horror story, and I don't have any of those. I actually did not read that a Skaskatchewan. I read it as Sasquatch. I thought Sasquatch Horse. Yeah, I can do that all day, but Saskatchewan. I don't know anybody from Sasasque, so I can't even say it see Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan. I don't know of any thing from up there either, the Great North. I did talk to someone though about she Laura mentioned a little bit ago about the giant beavers from up there. So they got big beavers up there in Saskatchewan. I don't know if it was that, or maybe it'd been Alberta. But just beware of the beavers, because that would be a very traumatic, traumatizing horror story to me if I'm out fishing and the next thing I know, it was the side of my boat. It's a big bite kick outa not buy shark, but a fucking beaver. Dude. Do you know how many times people will try to debunk woodknocks as a beaver slapping its tail on the water, because like one time in one documentary somebody mentioned that it might possibly be a beaver slapping its tail on the water, So now that's like the go to thing. I've heard lots of beavers slapping taells water and it sounds nothing like a woodknock. I don't know if I've even seen a beaver in the wild, to be one hundred percent honest. I've seen a dead one on the side of the road of like Gary, Indiana, and I'm like it was on Interstate eighty ninety. Whoa, whoa wow? Why is there a giant beaver up there? Yohola? Brother centaurs dude. So Brenda Harris of the Four Corners region who's famous in the Bigfoot world, she was on an episode of Unsolved mysteries with the Navajo Rangers, who were an official ranger group that investigated bigfoot, skinwalkers and other paranormal things on the Navaja Reservation. She told me a story about centaurs in the Four Corners region. I thought centaurs were just you know, myth and folklore of like ancient Greece or something. But like, apparently people have sightings of centaurs. You got any centaur stories, Brandon, No, but now I want to. Yeah, I didn't know that was a real thing. Like every centaurs was like the half horse, half person, isn't it? Yeah? Yeah, what is the is it? The meno tauris like the half bull half person. Yeah, the bullhead on a human body. I've heard that. I've heard supposedly people claim they've seen that, and then someone says that wasn't a bull, it was the devil because it was a goat heead. I was like, here we go, people who are not there trying to tell someone what they actually saw that shit. Yeah, I mean I would definitely lean towards demonic in some form. I don't think anybody's giving birth to a bull headed human. I just don't think that's happening. But all I know is, and I've said up before and this is a completely off topic, but when we first moved into this house and I went out back, and my stupid goat was standing up against the tree, and all I could see is a silhouette of what I thought was bofamet or wherever you pronounced it, like the goat headed devil was standing against the tree. The goat was eating up on its back leg, but its front legs were against a tree, trying to eat park or the tree, and the moonlight was shining, so all I could see it is a silhouet his goat with its horns and everything. It's pitch black out there, and I'm like, uh oh, yues satan and it's just a goat out there eating. That should have been my first queue of there's gonna be some weird shit going on inbhood. Whenever I was little, we used to go visit family in Arkansas, and there's like this one place that we went where they kind of lived on a farm. They had like a farm area, but like the majority of their land was fenced off, but there was like a tire swing inside the fenced off area, so as a little kid, I had to go in there. So I went in there and I was playing on the swing and I heard something and I couldn't see behind me, and there was like I was basically on top of a hill. There was a big, basically a gorge behind me, and uh so I had to get off the swing to see what was coming. And I turned around and there's just like goats running towards me, and it freaked me out forever. I don't know if they were like coming after me, they just heard me, if they thought I had food or something. But as a little kid, it freaked me out. And I haven't been a big fan of goats ever since. Whenever you told me that you got goats, it kind of freaked me out a little. I mean, you own something that's got like square pupils. That ain't right, man. Now they are strange. And we started off with two and then they had babies, so I ended up having five and then last year, no it's almost it's been two years now. I feel terrible about this. We cut down some bushes out front and I tossed them out back, and the goats ended up eating them. All three of them died because Apparently the bushes were toxic to the goats. How the hell would I know that they were going to be toxic. I don't know, considering goats eat everything. You poisoned your goats? Yeah, I accidentally poisoned two of them. Like the two boys are the friendliest ones. They died, and then one of the moms died. So I felt awful because I love my goats. They were good goats and I didn't expect to have five goats. But the two boys were baby ones. And then one of the daughters was still alive. But of all the two that they are all the ones that had to die as the two boys that were my favorites, and they both had to go. So sad story here on ten foil tells a night about my poor goats. But no, they goats are strange. I went out the other day this is people are going to think I'm sounding crazy here, But of all, if you've listened to if you've listened to me enough, they I was. I jumped over the fence, got into the goat area and I was picking up the upside down swimming pool for whatever is, they flipped over one of the little toy swimming pool things, and as I bent over Delilah, which is one of the goats, she was the baby goat come up and bit me on the ass cheek and I'm I yell and I look back. My wife's here, and she starts laughing. I look back at the goat. She curls her lips to play this and it's almost like she's laughing, and the mom goat is over on the other side going. I was like, are they laughing? Because she just bit me? Like do goats laugh? My wife was laughing. She's like, the goats are laughing at you. I was like, fucking goat. Did that hurt? So now I'm leary of even going in there, like she's gonna come up and bite me. Because I went in there the next day she started nibbling on my pant leg. That doesn't hurt her, But like, I wasn't expecting to get bit by a goot. Courtney's got goats too. What's wrong with you people? There's something wrong with it. And you have chickens too, dude, birds and goats. Hey, the chickens give us eggs. Something came into the I told you this already, but something came in and killed my ducks had a duck too. It dug under the fence and ate my duck's face off, So my kids were traumatized the fact that the poor duck is now gone. So our farming experience in the last four years has not went well. Our goats die, my chickens have been getting killed, my duck gets killed. Just been a bad Uh. I guess we're just not meant to be farmers. I mean, where did you find this piece of property, because you've had some weird stuff going on. Man, only four miles from where I had my dog man encounter. I just said, dog man, So you're what dog man encounter? Yeah, my upright walking cane I encounter. So I'm going to have to talk to Yohola about the centaur thing though, man, because I got questions. Yeah, I want to know more about the centaur stuff. Now. I enjoy where we're at. It's peaceful out here. We just have random death. If you talk to most people though that have farms, they claim it's normal with animals all the time. I was like, well, I don't like death when it comes to my animals, So I'm not that type of person. I've got a freaking groundhog out back that everyone keeps telling me to go shoot it, and I was like, I don't want to shoot it. I feel bad it's destroying my barns, but I want to. I'm just going to feed it some branches that I cut down, not knowing unintentionally killing it. I got in laws in Texas and they try to get animals, and every time they get animals, they end up dead, like every single time. We have a lot of coyotes around here, but I've actually never seen any in my yard. Like we have the yards fenced off. It's not like they can't get in there. But I hear them, but I'll ever see them now behind us, Like next to us is a huge field and behind us is a field, but I've never seen. Yes, I just hear them. We've seen deer actually in our backyard a few times, and then weird flying glowing orange balls of fire, but that's totally different. What the hell is a whistle pig, I don't know, but it sounds like something that sucks. I've never heard of a whistle pig either. I'm going to assume that's a name for something like a gopher. Groundhogs and Idaho groundhogs. Yeah, I've never heard them called a whistle pig before there. I always thought a gopher was a groundhog, to be one hundred percent honest, I didn't realize they were different. Gophers are like small in the ground we have here are like God's ulla sized fucking groundhogs. Yeah. I remember the first time I saw groundhogs. I mean, I had just never been around them, and then one day I found myself in a location surrounded by them, and I was like, what the hell are these things? These giant tailless rats? Are prairie dogs and groundhogs different? Are they the same too? I think they're different. I think again, I think groundhogs are bigger. I swear last year I was driving home and I came across a badger. And I don't know if we have wolverines or badgers or anything like that in Indiana. I'm pretty sure we probably do, but I swear I was on the east or the west side of Indiana and this thing just come crawling across the road really fast, and I'm like, what in the hell was that? The only thing I could think of was like it looked like a freaking badger or a wolverine, which they claim Michigan wolverines. When I'm not too far from Michigan. I'm like an hour twenty minutes south of Michigan, so it's not like animals no state boundaries. I can't cross into the state of Indiana. I don't know. There's all sorts of weird things apparently out there, including a weird upright walking canines. And I was told about a month ago that there's flying humanoids out around here too, So I don't know if I told that story. But I went to look for the flying humanoids. I took my son with me because he wanted to go on an adventure, and I took my friend and I said, I told my son, I'm going to use him as life bait. He's like, what, you're trying to get out vehicle and we're going to say the flying humanoids come down. I don't worry. Tied to his ankle, I was like, don't worry. It's like, if they show up, I'll just flash my high beams at them and blind them and then make sure you get back in the vehicle. So when we got to the location of where they were supposedly seen at, he wouldn' get out of the truck. I was like, I'll get out, So I went out. I took a photo. I didn't see anything. I honestly don't know what I would have done, to be one hundred percent honest if I'd actually seen a person flap open a big set of wings up, probably like oh shit, and then been like, now what. I think it was in the eighties when there was like a gargoyle type thing being spotted at a NASA building in Houston, Like was seen by like several employees leaving the building, and they described it as like a gargoyle, you know, a winged humanoid of some kind, uh, perched on top of the building. I believe it's funny you mentioned gargoyle because my friend that I took out with us to go look for this thing, he said that he was told by one of his other friends. And I don't remember how long ago this was, but they were driving out towards the same area and they encountered a gargoyle on the side of the road. I was like, what do you mean garge Like? He said they thought it was a animal eating like a dead deer on the side of the road, except when it looked up. It looked like a human like humanoids face, but it opened up its wings and just like flew off. So whatever these people said they saw was eating roadkill. Huh, laugh them with us. So, I mean, isn't that what they did and lost boys something like that? It's pronounced talaquaw before you, but I was I actually probably could have done that because where I live there is a school here called mcconicwaw. Oh Okay, a lot of people say, uh, macinakawa. That's not how it's pronounced, called mcconicwaw. And it's funny the law sounds. The reservoir that these flying humanoids have been seen around, which was the old Native American lands for the Miami Indians, was called Miss Cinema. That is the uh area where these humanoids have been apparently walking out and opening up their wings and flying over people. Yes, there is a gargoyle at the Denver Airport that they've turned into like an animatronic thing that will now talk to you. So I saw that recently because there were so many stories about the Denver Airport having a bunch of weird symbolism and weird evil stuff going on. They've embraced it by putting up a gargoyle that now interacts with people. I guess, so that's one way to go along with your weird stories. Yes, Jeeper's Creepers was a winged humanoid come out every twenty seven years, kind of like it. You know much about the Denver Airport, Matt, you really want you want my hot take on the Denver Airport. I don't think it's what everyone makes it out to be, to be honest, I think if they do have underground stuff, I think it was more or less for not evil things. But who knows. Yeah, I heard the claims back in the day and went and did my own research, and it didn't take me long to find like the artist of the mural like doing a video explaining the entire mural and everything that's in it and what it all means, and none of it was anything sinister Clindestine or Satanic or anything like that. The other stuff, you know, who knows. Maybe they have underground facilities there, Maybe they contract out to the military or the government on some aspect. I don't know. I don't doubt there's not some secret stuff that goes on in places. But I feel like an airport is pretty a strange place to do all sorts of weird things when you think is how many people? Yeah, yeah, it's it's not very secretive. There are tunnels under the airport, and that's the thing that everyone talks about. These tunnels are huge, and they claim people get lost down there, like workers get lost, and there's certain accesses to where they can't get into. But we just talked about that earlier. There's always going to be locations you can't get into. My company has a big office building and I don't know if my key card works in every location. I've never tried. But what happens if you go into an area and like, oh, what are you doing in here? And like oops, my bad looking for the bathroom. I'm sure there's off limit places that people can't have access to, and I'm sure it's for security purposes when you go into an airport, because what you be afraid that someone's going to be in there doing some shenanigans. I don't want to say certain words and get has. I mean where I live in Tulsa, we have a full tunnel system under our city and it's not like for transportation anything. It's just there They designed it that way so people could basically go from like one building downtown to another building downtown without having to walk, you know, and cross all the streets and everything. And they give tours of them and everything. But if you weren't from here, you would think that was kind of weird. My high school had tunnels underneath it, and it even had a passageway that went from the high school out to the street and an exit by the street. But that's because it was an official nuclear fallout facility, you know, whenever all the big nuclear scare was going on in the fifties, they built a lot of things like that that had underground tunnels and places that could hold a lot of people and ways to get from one place to another without being seen or getting covered up by debris. And people don't really talk about it or to use those facilities anymore, so I think they kind of become mysterious to a lot of people. The episode, and I'm not trying to plug anyone else's show, I hear, but I watched this recently. It was an episode of The Wi Files, and that's where I seen the talking Garble, the talking Goldfish. I don't I don't know I only come across the show because it was on to Be I think it was to Be And I was like, I've heard of the show, like on YouTube. I've never watched it, so I just scrolled through, and hey, he had so many episodes. He had like a dog Man episode. I was like, I didn't know the guy talked about this stuff. So of course I clicked it and watched it, and I seen the talking Goldfish like when the freaking talking But but I clicked on the Denver episode and he kind of went through the whole thing, And the one thing that I thought was strange is how much over budget it ended up being. For me, that's something that piques my interest in the sense of that's something that I can relate to because I do a lot of construction work and I know how budgets are and I know how things are, so like, it's kind of strange they were able to go that far over budget and a lot of the contractors didn't have any communication with other contractors, a lot of secretive type stuff. This seems a little bit odd, very military esque. I would say, they're asking if we know or what is our opinions on the missing for one one and I don't know if you really want to open that can of worms with me tonight. I mean, funny enough. On an episode I have releasing tomorrow morning, I talk a little bit about missing for one one stuff on there there, you guys go, let's see here. So thoughts on missing for one one, Well, my thoughts are that people are missing in wild and rugged areas for a number of reasons. And yeah, I don't really know what I can say, because you know, it is a can of worms, it really is. If you're just talking about the aspect of people going disappearing in the woods or whatever, that's one aspect of it. If you're talking about the other aspect of it, how it's become part of pop culture, that's an entirely different subject. I think it's strange when you take missing persons and then you layer it over the map and then you put on your cryptid experience. People have witnesses a weird stuff, and you can put around cave systems there. It does all seem to have some sort of I don't want to use the term that gets thrown around in these communities too much, but I want to do it just to be a douche and say synchronicities. There is a lot of weird things that kind of align. But you also have to look at it in this aspect. Yeah, they're national parks. What if people go to national parks to do and a lot of them go hiking. So and if you're in a big national forest and people see sasquatch, are they national forests because they know that they're in? Like where does it? Where is the line drawn of what's true and what's just being added in there? Like if you're going to go out into the woods, you're going to see a wild animal because that's where they live. So if you go into a big thousands upon thousands of acres of national forest, you go off the beaten path and get lost. Are you able to survive on your own for that long? Are they going to find you? I don't know where the connection is. And when it comes to four one one and the actual books and the guy that writes the books and everything else, I've never spoken to the guys. I won't pass judgment, but just based off of what I've heard, and there's a lot of questions about a lot of things I've seen stuff claiming that some of the things that he's wrote about have been solved afterwards, but it never gets brought up. I don't know if that's true or not. So I mean, you know, so like the caves, for instance, cave systems aren't typically built on because it's a dangerous foundation to build on, and we like to use those resources, you know. That's where our minds are, that's where we mine resources at That's why a lot of those cave systems are there. So cave systems aren't always natural. A lot of them are man made, and they're going to always be in areas outside of heavily populated areas. So the cave systems are the wilderness areas, is the point I make it. People disappear in the wilderness. They get lost and die, they fall off cliffs, they drown in lakes, they get attacked by wild animals. Some people get kidnapped there, unfortunately, because there's sick o humans that go to those areas to kidnap people because it's easier because there's not a lot of witnesses. There's numerous reasons why people disappear in the wilderness. Before we ever get to anything otherworldly or Bigfoot or anything nefarious like that. The other aspect of missing. For one, one that gets left out a lot is that there's a lot more people that disappear every day in the city compared to national parks or anywhere else out in the middle of nowhere. Those people vanish without a trace in the middle of New York. So where's the mystery behind that? Why aren't we talking about that? Well, because that doesn't sell things, that doesn't sell books, that doesn't get YouTube views. So I think that people have taken something and used it again as clickbait to get views. I mean, that's just my honest feelings about it. Do I think that it's possible that people are sometimes kidnapped by bigfoot? Yes? I do, absolutely. I've heard plenty of stories. Are people possibly abducted by alien? Sure? Why not? But I think usually the culprit is just a human being out of their element and being a fragile creature or messing around in areas that we shouldn't be messing around in all that much. My biggest struggle with the whole concept of the four to one one, I feel like there's a lot more stuff that goes on, Like you mentioned New York, people go missing everywhere. I just believe that for some reason, they're using the national parks for whatever. Again, like you said, clickbait selling whatever. And I don't know if you're familiar with that. Yeah, yeah, we talked about that on Crinkled Conspiracies a while back. But no, like there's a lot of weird things that happen in the woods. There could be numerous different things. But again, people come up missing in cities, they come up missing everywhere, and I honestly think ninety nine percent of the thing is people's own fault, like they get lost, they get hurt, or there's the human ount like you mentioned, like I think the real monsters are humans, to be one hundred percent honest, we are sure counter Yeah, for sure. I mean there's numerous documentaries out there about humans doing horrible things to other humans, and a lot of them preyed on victims in national parks and other remote areas. I mean, that's just a known thing that they do. Any FBI profiler will tell you that. It just seems like it's an easier place to go because you're there's less people to see, and if you're really that screwed up of a person, you can go and do some heenous things out in the middle of nowhere and pretty much get away with it because you can just leave it, and chances are they never going to find the body in the first place, not to be giving anyone listening ideas, Yeah, that's not what I'm trying to do. Rhyme scenes are a lot easier to cover up in nature than they are in somebody's house, or so I've been told by Brandon. Do not do it. They will still find you being I mean, there was a there was a guy here that went missing not too long ago, I guess it's been about a year or so, and another guy went for a hike after work. He was I think mushroom hunting, and this is like, you know, inside the city limits, but it was a heavily wooded area kind of out towards the north end of town where like the zoo is and everything starts spreading out and it becomes more rural. And he found the guy's remains and at first he just found like a human skull, like that's all there there was, And of course it became a crime scene and an investigation. They're like, yeah, this is the guy that disappeared like last year, and he had parked his car. They found his car last year and basically walked about a mile off into the woods and killed himself. But he wasn't found for a year with a huge search in his car, like a mile away. And it was just by chance that that guy just happened to be out there and happened to see like the dude's skull sticking up from underneath the leaves. And that's in a city, you know, that's not out in yosemity. Mm. I just saw something today. They said the remains of a missing lady was found where then I think it was an alligator? So they killed the alligator. I was like, well, was she already did before the alligator got her or I don't know, how did they did they kill the alligator just to find the remains? I don't I didn't read the story. I just seen the headline. My thing is like, if the alligator didn't eat her and she was missing, why did you kill the alligators to check for But then there's people that go missing that do seem to just vanish and there's no sign of anything. And then there's people that disappear and there's really weird circumstances around it, or their body is found later miles and miles and miles away from where they disappeared at that they couldn't have possibly made it there. I mean, there's all kinds of crazy stuff going on. I feel like for every time something weird happens, there is always this possibility that there is something other worldly going on. But that's like the last place the whole go to with it. Like I'll try and rule out every possible explanation before I ever jumped to that. And that's just me personally. I know a lot of people like to go into the more interesting version. I guess I don't know how to say that, say about something like a douchebag. I've just always looked at things to try and rule out. So, I mean, I just grew up like in an area where it was like there's just some places that you're not supposed to go. There's some places humans aren't supposed to go. Yeah, the Illinois River is another place where I'm not sure humans are supposed to be. Lots of people, lots of people meet their demise at this river, and it's an extremely popular tourist location. It's like the most popular place in the state to go like rafting and stuff. Everybody goes there, hundreds and hundreds of people a day, and just it just seems like every year somebody dies out there. I don't think we've ever had any I can't say ever, I don't remember anything like that happening around here. But we just have rivers and the dam. I'm sure there's other places where people drounding other things that, but to my knowledge, I haven't really heard of anything that stood out. There's lots of bigfoot activity at that river too. Well. They just had a big foot outing like a month or so ago out at the dam, out of where the flying humanoids are. Everyone goes out looking for bigfoot. I'm not looking for bargo batsquatch. Yeah. So this whole area, like I said, I don't I've lived here my whole life. I never really realized how much weird stuff was going on until I started apparently talking to people about it. No one else. That is one thing that I have noticed a lot more people are open these days to talk about things and what they ever used to be. Yeah. I don't know if the stuff that we do, like because of podcasting's kind of made it okay, or the TV shows and made it somewhat remove the stigma. But that's something I can do. A lot of it is the stigma, and a lot of it is people about you know. Just it's kind of become cool, uh, trendy, whatever you want to call it. People like this stuff now. Whenever before it was kind of like people scoffed at it and just didn't care. It's definitely got a larger audience than it used to. Yeah, that's kind of what I was talking about with places you know that you're just there was a place I went one time that was a place that you're not supposed to go, and it was called no Man's Land by the locals. Yeah, go ahead, thank him. That's awesome, man twenty bucks appreciate it. But yeah, this place was down in Texas, and it's definitely one of the creepiest places I ever went. And I don't know why we were there, because I I just grew up being told to respect those things, so I respect them. These guys didn't seem to care about that, And I saw some scary stuff that night that I still don't have an explanation for. So I tend to listen to that stuff, but a lot of people I think don't, and then even more people just don't even know about it to begin with. There's just so much out there. I struggle to understand it. I say I struggle a lot because apparently just struggle. But for me, it's like I've always wondered how people, even with me having my own experience, I don't feel like I had the experience like someone else would like I didn't. It's not made me to the point where like I'm afraid to go and do things. It's made me more curious. Would you say you're more curious about stuff since you had your experience? Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean I've always been kind of curious because, you know, growing up in this house and everything, experiencing paranormal activity at a very early age, trying to understand what I was going through, trying to figure out, you know, and learn as much as I could about it. But after I had that bigfoot siding man, that changed me. That changed everything entirely. I don't know why. For whatever reason, ghosts I guess it's because there's so many ghost stories out there, and everybody has a ghost story or knows somebody, but they were a lot more accepted for me, at least mentally, you know, I could wrap my head around those being a thing and just I guess maybe because I always experienced them. But bigfoot. Bigfoot wasn't supposed to exist, like it just wasn't supposed to be out there. I was thinking about this a while back, and I was talking with someone this morning, and I feel like this whole area in general has had some weird stuff even as a kid. I mean, I still live somewhat in the same region. I remember I went next door because I lived next door to my grandparents' house and my uncle is only like eight years older than me, so he's more like an older brother. And I remember walking over there and I saw a very tall, black shadow walking between the trees. I thought it was my uncle trying to scare the crap out of me, because that's just something he would have done. So I took off running and I went into my grandparents house and he's sitting in there, so it wasn't him, But I saw what looked like a very tall person that I got thinking of. I was like, well, whatever that was walking shadow wise was bigger than what I can normally think of and I was probably like twelve or thirteen at the time. I was not like a little kid, So I started to think about things out of reflecting back. It was like, what the hell was that next door with my parents at my grandparents' house? And then there's someone else now who had been walking between my house and my grandparents' house because fall woods? What the will walk in between the trees? So when you start stuff like that, you're like, was there a creeper out walking around? Like? Or is there a shadow man walking around? Was it a big foot? Like? What was going? You know what I mean? Like you start to think stuff like I like, what did what really happened? To answer Crystal real quick? That was outside of Paris, Texas Lamar County, I believe near the Oklahoma border Nearish. That's another thing I actually talked about in tomorrow's episode is that bigfoot hindsight as I call it, where once you have a big foot encounter, some people such as myself, start reflecting back on things that have happened in their life that you're like, oh wait, could that have been a big foot? And you know, I think that happens to a lot of people once that you know curtain gets pulled back and they see the wizard back there for what he really is, and you realize this stuff is out there. Then those things that you mentally rote off that you experienced come back to the forefront, and now you're not so sure. It made me think of a time whenever I was just a real little kid, there was this old lady that again had a farm with a bunch of chickens. That's where I first became afraid of chickens. But she was friends with my grandparents and we'd go out there and buy eggs from her, and she lived about forty five minutes outside of the city, and we were going down the road to her house. I can still see it in my head playing out, and we're kind of going around this curve and there's this old homestead off to the right in the woods, but just off the road. You can still kind of see it through the trees, and it always stood out whenever we had passed by it, because my grandpa always talked about like to go around that old homestead with metal detector and see what he could find. So I was got excited whenever we were getting close to that place. So I'm looking out the car window as we're driving down the road and I see something, and I mean it's just as we're driving by it. I don't get a good look at it. It's probably fifteen yards or so off in the woods. It's covered in brown hair, and it's upright on two legs. I couldn't tell you how tall it was or anything. It definitely wasn't larger than a human. But I remember saying something immediately to my grandparents about it, and they were like, oh, well, maybe it was a bear, And like, dude, there wasn't no bears back then anywhere around that place, So I don't know what I saw. I mean, the only thing that I could even come close to saying was a bear, because you know what else is that big and cover and hair. But it's just like little things like that where you're just like, what did I see that day? Yeah? We I think I've mentioned it before in one of my Puck Wedgy episodes. The same area where I lived, I think it was like seven or eight. We used to go into we called it the gully, and we seen this mound just it was almost like a dirt mound, but I had like grass on or whatever, and my older cousins decided they were going to throw rocks at this mound. Why, I have no idea. Something come running out scared the shit out of us. We took off running where kids. We ran back to my house. They told my dad i'd have went out. They were like a twenty two or something and didn't see anything or whatever. But my cousin swore a goblin come running out of this little den, and I assumed it was like an animal. I just seen something running, But the fact that they were screaming goblin a little this looks like a little person that the little troll or a goblin come running out. I don't know what the hell they saw. I only saw something running, I don't I didn't stick around long enough to get a good look. They started screaming, and I seen somebody running side screens and ran too. But as a little kid, your mind's gonna imagine whatever. You're gonna make stuff up and your your brain's gonna process it differently. But that's where the whole thing came about. With the weirdness that I had, and I was became afraid of that at night time, so like when I'd go next door to my grandparents house. I'd always run because I didn't want the gully monster to get me. Well, one night I was running home from over there and I tripped and I fell, and I swear, I literally was swearing, I heard laughter. And ever since I heard that laughter, I was petrified because what was laughing at me in the woods, like in the ditchline in the creek, like, what was laughing? So I would never go out arc time again for like years, Like even when I twelve or thirteen run over and I saw the shadow of while on the tree line. To me, it was just like I was actually still booking it pretty good when I was going through there, because even as a kid, I didn't I was still kind of afraid of like because that laughter creeped me out. Like I said, it's sick. I was probably like seven or eight when I happened, and it was just one of those things that I didn't forget. Huh, what would you say if I told you that bigfoot are known to laugh? I've heard that too, So I've heard some crazy stuff out in the woods man and uh, I mean I've heard a lot of things, and uh, yeah, supposedly Bigfoot will make like a hyena laughing type sound, not like a hyena, but like that same sort of cadence. This literally sounded like someone going very It sounded like a person to me, but like almost fake laughing. I don't know, it sounded strange. It's just enough to where I took off running. I ran in my house screaming and crying to my mom because I tripped to me and again, maybe it's my imagination. I felt like something tripped me, like I didn't just trip because there was a little it's still actually there. There's a wooden bridge in my dad built and it went across this little creek because when it rains, it would flood through there and there'd be standing water. Now it's so overgrown that it doesn't really happen. But back in the early nineties, there was a little flowing creek through there, so my dad actually built a bridge and we went between our house to my grandparents' house. Once I stepped on that bridge, I swear something grabbed my leg, like I grabbed my ankle and tripped me. To my brain, that's what I thought. Maybe I just tripped on the actual bridge itself, but I felt like something grabbed me and soon as I hit the wood, and then someone started laughing. I was petrified because literally something tripped me and was laughing at me. I would never go down there at nighttime, like I was so scared of it. I was traumatized from ever going down there because I didn't want whatever grabbed my leg to grab me. I was convinced it was the gully monster that my cousin decided to crush his house, his little mudhouse to live. I mean, so, I had this friend in high school named Ray who was Native American, and his family owned some land and they had a cabin on it and they had that's where his whole family could always meet up for functions and stuff. And he told me that one of the things his grandmother would always make them come on the porch. They had to be on the porch or inside the cabin whenever the sun went down, because the little kids that lived out in the woods would come out and try to play with them, and they would end up hurting them because they were stronger than we were. And him and his brother always you know, shrugged it off or whatever. They always did what she said, but you know, they didn't believe he or anything. And he sweared up and down to me that like one time it was after dark and they had all him and his cousins and his brother and everything had all gotten on the porch, you know. Grandma called him up there, and then she went back inside and was talking to the rest of the grown ups, and they got to cutting up on the porch and started running around the yard playing tag, and that his brother was running by the tree line and something grabbed his ankle and twisted it and he fell down, like broke his ankle, and he sweared something grabbed that same property. They had a big black cat that they would his dad saw it, and his older brother saw it, and they'd go out there and deer hunt. And one year his dad was deer hunting whenever he saw it and fired off three rounds at it and swear as he hit it, but they didn't even flinch. There's kind of twitch it's tail. And walked off the same area again without letting everyone know the exact location where I live, Like, my family lived like a road to the north, and a lot of my family lived there. So it's my parents, my grandparents, and then I had some aunts and uncles that all lived on the same thing. They all bought the property back in the sixties. I think they had a bunch of land. They'll just put their houses out there. But when I think this was like the mid nineties, I remembered the exact year my one cousin had rabbits. Something came in and they were on hutches. They were up in the air. Something came in and destroyed the cages and ate all the bunnies, the old the rabbits they had. But they found a puppy under the truck that they had hiding under the truck, and it was a very It was a beautiful dog when it grew up, but it looked it had a curly tail, almost like a huskies, you know, their tail kind of curls up. But it was almost the color of like a coyote. And when it grew up full grown, it was a vicious, vicious dog. They ended up giving it to my grandparents and it got loose and they called the police off because it cornered my grandpa into the garage and went letting go. They had to call the police on the place. I had to put the dog down just because how vicious it was for a dog. I don't know why they kept it for so long for a dog that was that mean, But they never did discover, to my knowledge whatever ate the rabbits and how this dog randomly showed up, Like at the timing was like that was it? The dog? Did the dog eat the bunnies? Yeah, that's why. Like again and now that I've started when I was talking with someone earlier, like I started thinking about all this weird stuff that happened and when I was a kid, and I'm like, I never haven't thought about that for a while, And like that sounds very similar to where you hear for like Bigfoot or whatever breaking into cages and eating animals. I've heard stuff people like they steal their chickens or they still their life, you know what I mean. Yeah, that destroy the cages and eat the bunnies. But explain where this puppy came from. This is a random puppy that turned into like a huge, vicious dog. It was a really big dog doing it grew up. So the worst part about it was he ate my grandparents cat. He completely ripped its head. Geez, yeah, that's my grandmother loved that cat. And then he apparently got a hold of cat towards head completely off, and then the corner of my grandpa and the garage, and that's they locked it in the garage and the cops came out, had to shoot it. But now that dog, I don't know what happened with it. It just clicked and it became ravenous, bloodthirsty dog. So yeah, the trail cam they it was right up next to their house. So it's weird because where they lived, like literally it was just a few feet from their house where they had these bunnies. So you'd have thought they'd have heard noises from these cages being destroyed. But I don't think they hurt anything. And they, like I said, they weren't on the ground. They were up above the ground like a couple of feet, so someone had to have reached up like up there to get them. So it's a very weird thing. You know, As a kid, I never really thought anything about it was like almost been a whild animal. But now as an adult and looking into the things I look into, it's like, well, what the hell would have been able to reach in there and destroy the cages they were in. I mean I could imagine something like, you know, something jumping up on the cages and trying to knock them down or something, but like anything that would I mean, how what can destroy a cage like that? Yeah, so I have no idea. Like I got thinking about the the thing tripping me, I got thinking about the shadow I saw walking, and I've thought about this thing where I was like, this sounds like only three miles down the road, I say, this big, weird shadowy thing walking in the middle of the road with no head, no arms, and then I see a dog that walks on two legs, Like I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that. I think this entire area that I live in is just fucked. Yeah. Yeah, sounds like there's just no other way getting around saying it. Like there's so much weird stuf that has gone on around here. And I don't know why we moved back to this location, Like I told my wife before before we bought this house that I didn't really want to move back up this way, and here we are. I don't know. Maybe it's the abyss that just keeps calling me back. I can't escape it. The black hole. I mean, I grew up in a hide house and decided to just live there forever. So I mean, you're not alone with the stupid decisions. No, I don't know. I am with all the weird stuff that's going on here lately. I don't know who's HEARDing some of the things I've talked about, But like the random teeth that we've been finding, I've someone asked me after I talked to him about the tooth that I got threw away. They wanted me to go out and find the tooth because they wanted to get it analyzed. It's like, well, the field has now been tilled up and there's corn planets, so I don't think I'll be able to locate that tooth. And if I do happen to go out and find a tooth, then I don't know if I want to touch it again, because if I can find a tooth now, like the fact that it looked like it had been in the house twice, it's just that I don't know. The whole thing is weird. Someone mentioned Crystal mentioned fairies earlier. I wanted to bring us up before we wrap this up. You know the fay Loure. I'm sure you know some about it. How they claim that they've screw around with the tricksters. Whatever. We've had silverware come up missing. I've been discovering that that is part of a sign of fairies or fairy folk or fair or whatever you want to call them. They're screwing around with you. We had a lot of spoons that just seemed like they just vanished out of nowhere. And now all of a sudden, I'll open up my drawer and there's so many spoons overflowing with spoons. And I asked my wife and she ad bies them. I don't she didn't buy any, but we talked about how ol our spoons came up missing. Now have a bunch of spoons that I don't remember having that many, but a lot of our forks are missing. So where did our spoons go? How do we get more spoons than what we originally had? And now where'd the hell of our forks gone to? I'm not the one to ask, but it seems like you want to leave food and maybe some bottle caps on the windowsill and see if those I've also heard we're supposed to leave pancakes pancakes. Someone told me before we're supposed to leave out pancakes. M I don't know about pancakes. Yeah, I don't know about leaving anything because I don't feel like I want to make an offering to anything because I don't want to think of it has free ranges to keep coming in here and screw around with stuff. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Man, you got some weird stuff going on, and if you really do have something going on involving that sort of stuff, then you need to fix it. Yeah. That's That's part of the reason why I don't want to feed them or do anything, because then they're going to expect it, and then when I stop doing it, then they're going to get worse. I try not to piss things off too much around here because I feel like when I went around trying to banish things and make them leave, I end up having even weirder stuff happen. So I've tried that well, diving into the whole thing. Basically, I went to the entire house multiple times and try to banish whatever is in here screwing around with me and my children, But it seems to go away for a little bit and then they come back even worse. But I have realized that it doesn't seem to happen during the spring and summer. It really starts in the fall and really upticks into the winter, and then when spring comes around, it kind of dives down again and it doesn't start again until like September. Yeah, dude, you need to talk to Yahola. I'm going to hook you guys up on Facebook. You guys need to suck That sounds like a plan, but we can probably wrap this one up. I don't see anyone else trying to message me and want to hop on here or anything else. So we've been rambling on for over two hours now. But well it's been fun. Man. You know. I'm sorry the phone number didn't really work out. I don't understand that. And again it irritates me because it literally worked when I tested it out, and I even recorded it and put it on YouTube and you can hear it on YouTube, and I changed nothing. So why is it not working now? Yeah, I don't know. Very annoyed, but I get very annoyed every time because again we started to stream it says error, cannot go to Facebook, so I don't. I'm just going to end it on the whole. I'm not a big fan of stream yard, so maybe the next one will not be from Streamyard. I don't. I actually try to cancel Streamer. The reason there's the logo of Streamer is because they offered me at half price. The only difference is they have to put their logo up at the top, so I don't even know. I don't pay their whole fee there. They'll let me have it for ten dollars a month instead of twenty because I tried to cancel it already, so now they might just have me canceled completely because I can do all the same stuff on other platforms that I'm already paying for us why to pay for this? In the show? On a rant note, maybe next time we should, you know, do a little troubleshooting beforehand. That would take preparation and planning and everything. I thought of all that, but yeah, one knows me. I'm I shoot from the hip type person. I'm just here we go last away. Yeah. Well, for anyone still listening and watching, appreciate you guys again. Shout out to the wood Warrior for the twenty Definitely appreciate that. Anyone that's interested picking up one of these shirts, you can shoot me a message on Facebook. Thanks for Courtney. Had a great time tonight. Thank you for listening. Thanks to Crystal everyone out there who's also been listening war cry podcast. Check that out. Make sure to check out Bigfoot Crossroads. Matt's episode drops tomorrow with some of the stuff that you guys have been asking questions about. So I definitely recommend going over there and checking it out. But on that note, I want to rolling out of here or so thanks for talking with me that I'm Matt. Yeah, I'm many Thanks for having me. Yeah. Maybe we'll do it again here soon and hopefully we won't have the technical difficulties if I can figure out a way to get the phone lines to work. Gives me another month to try and figure it out. So all right, guys, thanks for listening. 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