Ep. 100: The Cult of Conspiracy

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us, and one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Wright. Tonight's episode is a very special one hundredth episode of Tenfoil Tells. I never believe that I would ever get to one hundred episodes, but here we are. Thanks to everyone that for making that possible. 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There's also now a merch store link in the show notes for anyone that's interested in supporting some ten foil tels, swag or stickers or shirts or whatever you want. You can hop on the website and see who they got available, see if they anything. Tickles are fancy. But now it's time to bring on the guys from Cult of Conspiracy. I highly recommend everyone go check out their podcast. They've been doing it for quite a while. They dive into a lot of interesting topics I think some of you guys would enjoy, so I'm definitely honored to have them on the show. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I'd like to take the time and welcome my guest to night Jonathan and Jacob from Cult of Conspiracy. Guys, thanks for coming on here and talking to me. Hey, thank We're stoked to do it. It's a special episode here for me at ten Foil Tels. It is my one hundredth episode, so I definitely appreciate you guys coming on here and being a part of a one hundredth episode. Hey dude, it's an honor. We appreciate that absolutely. Man, congrats. I never thought it would make it too a hun episodes because literally I started doing this in the garage two years ago and I was just like, I'm going to talk to a couple people and probably never manage anything. And now it's turned into what it's turned into. So that's kind of like Jesus, I never expected any of this, Hey dude, that's really how we started. We started, uh in my bedroom, in my trailer in the trailer park and swamp ass, Louisiana, So we get it right, dude. Basically in a van down by the river essentially is where the Cult of Conspiracy was born. Bro. What got you guys into the whole realm of the doing a podcast? Well, Jacob had already had a podcast going, and I had started the Cult of Conspiracy with one of my best friends at the time. Well, we got about fifty or sixty episodes in and he said he didn't want to do it, and surprisingly enough call it synchronistic or just weird, but he stopped wanting to do it once he got the co it back, so maybe those go hand in hand. But then I ended up doing a couple episodes by myself and I was like, man, I would really love to find like a new co host because it's just so much easier to go back and forth with somebody if you don't always have a guest. And I met Jacob On as a guest a couple of times and then he was like, dude, are you looking for a new co host? I was like, hell yeah, And so it's just been ever since then. And me and my younger brother had a little podcast that we were doing at one point in time, and it was very much the same type of you know E or F or even G rated podcast that just kind of any two dumb asses start. We just were getting drunk and talking shit. Basically was like a smoke pit talk at a construction site and like that's funny, but for a very small demographic of people. So I was already kind of closing down shop on that when we were still putting out an episode every so often, but it wasn't like a main focus. And I've been on the cults and Jonathan and me kind of just meshed together very well, and we've been running it ever since. So we come from very different places, he and I. Our background is very different. So I am a Marine Corps veteran, and I'm also a Christian, and I'm also a conspiracy head, and I take things at that approach, and you know that from that standpoint anyway, Jonathan is a very spiritual person. He questions the narrative of history, of religion, of booked of who wrote it, of everything, So he's not concrete in anything, and he looks at everything from a very esoteric place. So when you get both of us from very different standpoints looking at things in a conspiratorial way, the back and forth of that kind of makes this show what it is, and I mean, we love it. We've also had personal experiences that have led us each to our own beliefs, sure, and so Jacob has had his whole story and it's really concreted his beliefs. I've had, you know, my experiences, and that's why you know, for me, nobody can tell me what I believe is absolutely wrong, because you know, once it's one thing to believe in something or to have faith in something, it's a whole another thing whenever things are starting to creep into your material reality and somebody is going to sit there and tell you know, you didn't experience that. No, that's not what happened or whatever. No, you can't tell me no, Like I was there, I experienced it. And so so yeah, we do go about it in a very different way. But it's great because any time I got any kind of biblical question or biblical you know, anything like that, I'm always running by a Jacob. I'm not gonna lie to you, dude. Nine out of ten things that I know about the Bible is because of Jacob. Like I also it helps them. I'm also a big time history buff and like so when we talk about historical precedents, when we bring up the ancients, ancient Sumerians, ancient Babylonians, ancient Egyptians, like I'm not just like, oh, I really know about that. I know a little bit about a lot of things, you know what I mean, I don't know a whole lot about anythings. What I tell people that way, I don't have to seem like I'm the smartest person in the room. It works outing better for me that way. But I dabble into a lot of different stuff to where I think I know certain things, but I'm always learning new stuff every day. That's why I like talking with people that I feel like no more than I do, because I learned stuff absolutely, dude, I mean hell even like, for instance, perfect example, when we talk about the ancient Sumerians, right from Sumer and all this, you realize, one hundred years ago, no history books even had the Samerians wrote down because we hadn't discovered the remains of their whole civilization yet. Yet now you can find all these books written about it. Who knows what we're about to learn or discover tomorrow. I also feel like if they discover anything new tomorrow, they wouldn't let us know. That's just my conspiracy brain, and to the extent of I think they try to hide a lot of information from us. Especially, I feel like history is not one hundred percent accurate of what we know I think that it all depends on who are the people that are actually discovering it, you know what I mean, Like, if there are people like you or me or Jacob, people who are searching for truth, we're gonna we stumble across something. I don't know. I mean, I don't plan on walking across the Sahara Desert anytime soon. But if I just so happen to find myself doing so, and I trip over some box that you know, nobody knew existed, I'm blaring that siren across the world. That's just you know, that's you people who are truth seekers and people who want to just know, like what is the meaning of this whole existence? What is the actually? What are we doing here? How did I get here? Why do I have conscious thought? Why DoD? Why is their past lives? And like you know, we all question all these things because there's no real, for sure way of knowing that, like we Like I said, you can take it on faith, you can leave it, but there's no real way of knowing that unless you you know, you ask people about near death experiences and stuff like that. But outside of that, it's like, you know, it takes, it takes the people, the regular average Joe, the everyday person, to really just find some of this information and get that information out. And that's really what's inspired us to do what we do. And I know that that's what you're doing too, dude, no doubt, especially when you look at the entire picture of it. Right. Like you said, Brandon, the history is not exactly what we've been told, right, and we there are some examples where we now have like and it's been discovered, it's been brought forward. Everybody knows this story that we used to get told. Actually we learned dot dot dot it's this way now. This happens every day, but it's not happening enough, right And Jonathan, just like you said, if we were if we us three were ever to discover some sort of new thing, new revelation, whatever, uh Antarctica, if for whatever we any of us ever went to Antarctica and saw some wild shit that was going down over there, yeah, we would risk it to get that word out because again, we feel that calling within us that we need to expose this shit. A lot of people don't feel that way. And also, like you're saying, the religions of it, we talk a lot about this kind of stuff on our show too, because when we delve deeper into different religious ideologies, we talk a lot about this, But with that we also talk about the people's culture and why the people believe these things. How does that play into what they do, how they act, how they respond to certain situations. It all plays in and symbolism plays a lot into that. Esoteric things plays a lot into that. Sacred geometry play a lot into that. So even surface level conspiractorial talk can very quickly go down a rabbit hole into religion, into history, into the occult, and again this is this is kind of what we do. Man Basically with me as been fascinated with weird stuff in general, and I've always been somewhat of a skeptic. Like I said, growing up, I never really believed in some of the weird stuff, like I wanted to believe. I grew up on the X Files, like I wanted to be Fox Smolder when I grew up. That was my when I was a kid, that was what I look at. The show I watched like Oh, Monsters, Aliens or and that I never really took anything serious like you, And even with that show, they did like a lot of government conspiracies, and maybe that's why I'm more in tune to everything because even though it was a TV show, it kind of at a young age influenced me to never trust the government and once you have that weird experience and then literally opens your freaking mind to all sorts of shit out there, and I think that's for a lot of people. I think that's why we kind of do the things that we do, is because everyone has their own story to tell, and I don't want to discredit people. Oh he called it a story, but it is what it is. I get harassed sometimes because it's asked if people have a story to tell me. They say, I'm discrediting people to have experiences. It's like, that's not even what I'm doing. But okay, what would you say? How do you want to word that more politically correct? Tell me your tale, Yeah, be your autobiography. Explain to me your experiences. What is this a fucking therapy session? That's literally what I was told. I had to start referring to them as experiences, so I have because I don't want to offend too many people by saying stories. Ah, I made a tomato, Who cares? They get across the same point. That's probably just one or two people with a thumb up their ass. Bro If anything, I have always thought that would be a term of endearment when you meet somebody's like, wow, you look like you have a story to tell. Like that tells me you've experienced some shit, You've lived a life that in no way has ever sound discrediting in my mind, But all right, cool. Yeah. Else, I've been attacked over the fact that the name is tenfoil to They said, I'm making fun of anyone that's had an experience or anything weird because is ten foils a tenfoil hat? And you're just making fun of people? I won't come on your show. Do you make fun of people? I was like, you've never listened to a fucking episode before. I mean, the biggest conspiracy podcast out there right now is called Tinfoil Hat. So yeah, long again to mention the tenfoil anything, tinfoil hat, tenfoil stories, tenfoil tails, whatever, that is an indicative conspiracy head thing. Like that's the same with open up your third eye, which is our catchphrase that we use. But like that sentiment is a very widely said thing within the truth movement. So wow, way to have a little soft skin there, snowflake, isn't it within within a Faraday cage? Isn't Isn't that made of aluminum foil on the inside? Or am I tripping? No, it's made out of copper copper? Okay, where'd the aluminum foil come from? Uh? Well, there was a movie long ago where they basically said that if you wore tenfoil on your head that the aliens radio waves couldn't get to your brain and whenever they would make the entire world zombie slaves, you'd be protected. That was signs welcome, No signs. They it was the water. But when they came in the living room and Woking Phoenix had it on his head, that was like a nod to this old movie this And I feel bad people there listening, Please don't fry me for not having the facts on this. This is long before I was born. I'm talking like in the sixties or some shit this movie came out. But yeah, anyway, I don't know a movie. I've always wondered about myself where the whole tenfoil thing came from. But I thought of this name like four years ago, and I didn't even make the podcast, so like two years later. But I didn't even know about Sam Tripley. I wasn't ever a podcast or I was a metal person. So when the whole beast era happened of twenty twenty, I don't drop that sea word too often because it gets your fucking band around here. When all that went down and new band stuff anymore, so, me and a buddy's talked a lot of conspiracy, especially of that time of the world of everything weird going on. We were talking about a lot of stuff, like, you know, how it'd be cool to make a podcast and talk about some of the stuff we talk about, because I bet no one does that. And then I started looking at like, shit, everyone's doing too now to hear that, dude. Sorry. At the same time, it's like, you know, hey, if we're already having good conversations and people want to hear what we'd be having, what we'd be saying, we'll be talking about, why not record it? Why not put it out? I got a rate where the tinfoil hat started. He looked it up. Yep, it's the tinfoil hat. And popular and popular culture can be traced back in a very weird short story written in nineteen twenty seven by Julian Huxley titled The Tissue Culture King, wherein the main character uses a metal hat to prevent to prevent being mind controlled by the villain scientist. Over time, the term tinfoil hat has become associated with Aaronoia and conspiracy theories. Okay, at twenty seven, that's almost one hundred years ago. The tenfold hat came into existence, no shit, See, I remember seeing a clip of it from a movie and it was like a black and white movie Alien Invader, some shit like that, So I did. I thought that was where it originated from a short story from the twenties. Who knew. The first time I'd ever really seen it in a movie was Signed, I remember because Joaquin Phoenix and those kids had it on their heads when they came out with a closet or whatever from watching the little alien guy walk in the background. I loved it, you know, I've ever seen it. I wanted to get your your thought on something, and you know you you say that you've talked about cryptids and weird things that happened kind of you know around us. What are your thoughts on aliens? Bro? Like, are these things interdimensional, multi dimensional? Are they from terrestrial extraterrestrial or are they kind of just like you know, dipping in, you know, from different frequencies or something. Because there's so many different realms of thought, and honestly, you can throw a bigfoot into that conversation as well, you can pretty much throw it all together. I lean towards I think they're all somehow interconnected, and I don't know if they're I don't I'm not going to say they're not from space, but I kind of find it far fetched that things are traveling these trillions of miles here just to pick the most random people to fuck with. And I could see them doing that though, because what do we do. What do we do when we go and discover animals? We're looking at what we do? We tag them, we monitorize them, right, we file them. So I understand the concept of how it could be happening. But at the same time, it's like, if they're that advanced, why are they coming here? And then if you start talking to people that have been abducted, the things are making hybrids and everything, why are they wanted to make hybrids with us? Like if they have the ability to even make it here from a different part of the Solar System or universe or whatever the hell you want to call it galaxies, why they got to come here and screw around with what we're doing. So that doesn't add up. Yeah, the story goes, at least the one that I've heard that's pretty common is that basically the ones that are coming here and you know, I guess trying to get our DNA are from what I've heard, are the Grays, the Gray Aliens. Because essentially the story goes is that the Gray Aliens used to be humans and they're basically us from like a super long time ago, and they got real technology, technological and they started advancing in a way that wasn't really good for the future of humanity, and they essentially turned into these fucking creatures with massive eyes, don't really need mouths, they don't need their sex organs or anything like that anymore, and now they can't, you know, procreate, create, and so they're they're like, their people are just dying off, and so they come back here to extract our DNA so that they can begin the procreation process so that their uh people don't die off. And so that's a story that I've heard. I don't know if that gets into the butt probing, I'm not sure. As far as I know, it's it's more of like a some kind of maybe it's kind of like an astol thing, or it might be you know there. You know, because there are a lot of people claiming they've been taken up to other spaceships and they had they had been worked on by whatever kind of aliens. Some some people even say that the mantis aliens were you know, up there doing some kind of fucking astral surgery. It gets really, really weird, and it's hard to tell whether somebody was dreaming, whether somebody was in a meditation, whether somebody was tripping balls, whether somebody took way too much cough syrup, you know, whether somebody had like I don't know, cte from being punched in the face too often or whatever. But but who's to say that any of those experiences would be wrong? Because even biblically they talk about dreams, right, and not even just biblically, like all the religious literature, they all talk about these things that come to them in dreams, And who's to say that they weren't. I don't know, I like to think that, you know, ancient church goers were probably ingesting some kind of mushrooms in order for them to be able to see what's actually going on in this heavenly realm. That's just my personal opinion, But I don't know, dude, I would say, yeah, it makes sense that the Grays would be coming back for our DNA to prevent their people from dying off the blood type that they typically go after with if you listen to the like abductee stories or whatever. I asked a lady recently, and it seems that they go after the typo negative blood type because that's like the universal blood types. So if they're making hybrids and they need this people for whatever they're doing, you would use that universal blood, you would think, because it can be used with other blood types. So to me, if they're harvesting organs or making hybrids or whatever they're doing, they would want that hypoegative universal blood because they can work with anyone with it. I don't know if anyone really dived down that rabbit hole. I'm pretty sure I'm not the first person I ever really thought of it, but like, it is one of the common traits I've noticed when I've talked to people as typo negative seems to be like the blood type that they typically go after. I got a very different opinion. As far as aliens go, I think that they are as far as what we think of the traditional alien anyway, Bigfoot and Choopicabra and all the other cryptids deserve their own talking points as well, no doubt, But as far as aliens go, I think it is probably more along the lines of I don't want to say like invaders from Mars, so to speak, but a living being that can travel interer dimensionally. But think of it more like tearing a hole in time and space to jump point A to point B. I guess possibly that could be from time A to time B. I don't know. I don't know how the time space continuum works, but I believe that they are able to move from point to point B rapidly using interdimensional travel. A lot of Christians get upset with me because of that, saying like, well, if that's true, then that disproves God. I respectfully disagree. I think that God made all of it, and that he in fact did make creation, possibly on other planets. Is it possible that those the lives on other planets that may or may not be there, may have souls. Is it possible that they had their own Garden of Eden, their own Adam and Eve? Did Jesus make an appearance there that did that? Look? I don't know, but I definitely think it's within the realm of possibility. And I don't negate it because I also believe that God can make anything possible, you know what I mean? With that being said, I also believe there are interdimensional beings or different frequency beings as some like to use the terms interchangeably, and I think there is way more levels to existence and way more cogs in the Grandfather clock, so to speak, of life turning all perfectly in unison at the same time. And I think it's way too complicated for us to actually ever know the answers to everything. You know, There's a quote that literally keeps me up at night and I can't not stop thinking about it. It's almost a riddle how much of a wild quote it is. And it's from doctor Stephen Greer. He's he does the CE five, the Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, which is awesome. I love that kind of shit. I eventually hope to go out there in the desert one day and just do that, maybe not with him, but with you know, other people who are trying to achieve the same results. Sure, But one of his quotes that he said, and he has been looking into this stuff for a long time, he's gotten into it with you know, he's trying to he's one of the main people who are trying to get all of the military personnel to be able to legally come out and tell their story. And so I appreciate that. But a quote that he says is is, whenever we're talking about aliens or you know, ets, whatever you want to call them, he says, it's not it's not where they come from, it's when they come from. Sure, and that blows my mind because Okay, it's not where. It's not where they come from, it's when they come from. But also think about it like this, Okay, like it's cool that they're coming from another time, but where is that other time at? You know what I'm saying, it's but it's like I'm saying, bro, it's so convoluting. There's so many levels to it, Like I don't negate the possibility of any of that shit. And also, could they be the the Anonarchy, could they be the Grays? Could they be the Alfred Jerconians and the Pleadians? And we hear all these terms. Possibly sure, why not? Bro, It could all absolutely be happening at the same time, right, and then you know you you look into Brandon. Have you ever heard this podcast? It's called the Sean Ryan Podcast. No, I'm not familiar with it. I don't listen to a whole lot of podcast I know he was here and there that I've listened to, but like, I've never been in a huge podcast listener, which is weird because I'm a podcast person now, but I always say I'm a metal person, so I listen to music all the time, no doubt. Did you see the Seawan Ryan at Easter? He and his whole family just got baptized. Dude. Oh yeah, yeah, he's a Christian. I'm pretty sure right, Oh, for for sure now he's confirmed that publicly. Man, But I mean, I still like his show is incredible and the people he brings on. I've heard the name, but I've never listened to him. He's a military guy, right, Jacob. Yeah, he was a I don't know exactly which division of Special Forces, but I want to say he was in Special Forces. I know he got a couple of combat pomps and and uh, yeah, dude, he brings on people that are former CIA. He brings people in there are veterans, he brings in people that are interesting to talk to. But yeah, dude, his show is solid. He's had on military contractors who got contracts to go down to Antarctica just and and not even necessarily were in the military, but just I mean I'm talking about like plumbers or electricians that got these contracts to go work on this base or somewhere in Antarctica. And he says he accidentally, like this one dude on the on the Sean Ryan Show, he said he accidentally like walked into another room and saw this scientist literally fucking opening up a portal and pulling these inter dimensional creatures from it. He said, one of them got out of that portal and was literally walking on legs running around the laboratory. It's like, dude, if that's not monsters inc all day, you know what I mean, Like, what the hell, dude, Like that's real, that's that's that stranger thing. Also, keep in mind, he didn't say he pulled these other people out of this portal. It was clearly a creature, not a human, not a humanoid, like he would have said it that way if it was you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, it's it's some extra weird shit. Now, if you're a Christian, you would say, maybe those a little demons running around. If you're a Muslim, maybe you'd say, there's a little gin running around. I don't know what the hell to call them, but I don't it's it's weird. I would love to see a picture of one, maybe even hang out with one. But honestly, if it's a little creature running around like that, I can't imagine there's any kind of real intelligence in those because now we're talking about possibly pulling these things from a lower dimension than even where we exist. In that lower dimension, I don't know, maybe it's Hell, maybe it's the underworld, maybe it's show shale, or however you say it for all the flat earthers out there, Uh, I mean, does it mean that it's a lower dimension they're pulling them from? Is it possible that they're pulling it from a equal not parallel, not like one to one ratio, but like a dimensional like equivalent something that's vibrating at at least our frequency. Well, I guess the theory behind that goes is that if you're it's not possible to pull something in from a higher tension that doesn't want to willingly come right like. And that kind of makes sense to me, Like you wouldn't be able to just, I don't know, pull an angel through a portal, if if that's even a thing, but you'd probably be able to pull you know, a little lower maybe a little bit slower of the mind kind of creature. I mean, I I don't know. Anytime I've ever seen something coming out of a portal, whether it me in a movie or TV show or whatever, it's never really been anything good unless you're watching Doctor Strange or something about to say, I could think of a few examples where the portal was used for positive means, but again, I don't know. And also I'm a Christian who sinks that possibly they're pulling demons from that portal, who knows it's also possible they could be pulling an alien life from another galaxy through that portal. I think both are equally possible. Dog I just take it to someone day and we actually were talking about this picly the way he was describing, and I tend to agree, like you mentioned earlier, you can't pull something from a higher frequency into your lower frequency realm, So what they would be opening up and pulling in would have to be something somewhat equal or lower frequency. And the way the frequencies go, the higher the frequencies or the light beings, and then the lower frequency is the dark, evil hell type beans. So if they're pulling something in again, and if you believe in that religious aspect to it, what are we bringing in? Is probably not good? Can I ask why y'all believe you can't bring something from a higher frequency down? Because like what rule says that you can't? We do that the time? I think it's because of their vibrations. They vibrate rate faster, so they could slow themselves down, but we could never vibrate our own selves faster to go into their world. So I don't know if we can bring them, they might be able to slow themselves down to come to our world, but I don't think we can ever interact and go into theirs. So like for instance, time that well, so essentially I say that because there are you know, I put a lot of value in certain like really good channelers personally. And I know that a lot of people don't care for that. That's understandable, it's just I believes. But certain channelers they'll say the same thing. Dude, They're just like, look, sometimes, you know, that's that's why you don't see angels flying around all the time or higher dimensional beings flying around all the time, because it's actually takes a lot of work for them to be able to lower their vibration enough just to be here. And so what they say is is that essentially in order for us to be able to start seeing these things a little bit more often, you know, your your Bloodsoe family kind of people who are always seeing the orbs in the sky and stuff like that. Essentially, you kind of got to meet them halfway. So you got to raise your own vibration enough for them to lower their their vibration order in order for you guys to kind of meet on somewhat of a middle path. But for you to pull out something from a higher dimension, you'd have to imagine, dude, you're talking about somebody, if you believe in this kind of thing, you're talking about beings that have exceeded the realm that we're already in. They have beaten this game of monopoly. They have advanced in a much higher dimension. They're not going to be pulled down by some fucking you know, some pukes. Not saying fukes or anything, but just like some piss ants compared to what they are. Okay, fair enough, and there's a lot to unpack on that one, but hear me out. Let's just use the example of a tuning fork. And yes, I understand we're talking about our physical reality with this, but bear with me. If you were to strike a tuning fork, you would hear the ring in the tune that you're supposed to. That's what it's made for. But if you were to take your hand and grab it with your other hand and slowly slide your finger down towards, like from the handle part towards the fork part, you would hear the vibration take a dip. Same thing with a guitar. As you move, you can force the vibration, therefore the frequency, therefore the sound, therefore the physical embodiment of it. Those waves themselves, you can manipulate those and bring them lower or higher. Once you learn how to manipulate it. You can force it whether it wants to go higher or not. And I would say arguably the same could be happening with energy as well. Have you ever been around somebody who's a complete piece of shit and you go around them and no matter what, they bring your mood down and it's like, it's not like you know, you just whatever. This person is just such a negative human being. They make every situation worse. They are pain in the ass to be around. And once you're with them, you can't help but just get in a bad mood, not an annoyed mood like misery loves company type shit. And you notice that there is a full on energy down shift when this person walks in the room. This can happen on an energetic level too. That person can learn to manipulate that and force people to be in a bad mood around them, And people do that to manipulate people all the time. So to say that that can't happen to this scale, I don't, I respectfully disagree. I think that something operating on a higher plane could absolutely be forced down. You just made need to know how to do it. I mean, it's possible. I know exactly what you're talking about too. Maybe that's like occult knowledge stuff like that, these dark arts that were used to call upon demons and or call upon the other side. Who's to say, yeah, but the dark arts aren't calling upon you know, higher ranking angels. You know. But that's the thing too. Aliens some believe are higher vibrational beings, I argue, who says they're higher vibrational, Well maybe not all of them, but yeah, as far as like yeah, like it's somebody walking in the room. I tell you what. I always tell this story. But whenever I was younger, dude, I used to be super scared of my dad. My dad was just a real He was a big guy, really intimidating, and you know, would scream, and you know, I didn't really like my dad. I love my dad now, but growing up, he was a scary dude. And you know, we this is I was living in Pennsylvania. We had it was a two story house, and I could literally I knew so I before he would even walk into my bedroom or me and my brother we shared a bedroom, he would I could hear him coming from wherever he was coming, not because of the footsteps that he was making, but because there was literally a change in frequency, so much so that before he opened the door, I was telling my little brother, yo, stop what you're doing, Like do what you're supposed to be doing. If you got homework, like do that, or clean up the room. You know, you know how he gets whenever the room's all dirty, like I would sense that into the disturbance in the forest. Bro. I feel this honestly. Yeah, And anybody who's kind of really been around somebody who they were, you know, in fear of at least, you know, at least whenever they're you know, a little kid or whatever, then you know what I'm talking about. And so yeah, I think that maybe an energy like that, you're probably not going to be able to manifest, you know, an extraterrestrial from some other dimension into your energy of good. But yeah, I don't know. I think that probably a lot of things are manipulatable. But sure, it's to a point though, because I think that there's I don't know exactly how I want to put it, but I can't imagine that there wouldn't be some kind of fail safe that would prevent us from reaching the higher dimensional entities if we weren't in that state of vibration. I would imagine they would probably know that we're trying to manipulate it somehow, because you got to think, most of these stories, anytime somebody is getting abducted, anytime somebody's met with some kind of et or anything like that in a dream or in a past live regression or anything like that, nine out of ten stories they're they're all talking through what is it called telekinesis, And so are your thoughts? You know, so I know if you could fake that. You don't think that somebody could fake hearing things in their head? What do you mean? You said it happened telekinetically, So you think that it's impossible if somebody could fake hearing things inside of their own head. I don't think it's I don't think it's possible to lie telekinetically. I genuinely don't know how to respond to that, cause I think that you took me on a couple of different levels of five D chests on that one. It's hold on, hold on, let me you are you meaning like you think people are just saying that they've heard them in their head part of the lie, or do you think that someone's manipulating a lie into someone's head. I don't. Yeah, I think what Jacob is tring is he's trying to say that essentially, like what if there was a bad person who is trying to think good thoughts so that he can get on the same kind of vibration of the higher dimensional beings just so they could be trapped, right, Jacob, No, I'm saying like there's a guy who who says, oh yeah, no, I'm getting downloads from somewhere in reality. He's like lying and he's making it up in his own head. Oh yeah, yeah, of course those people know. That's that's what I meant. I'm sorry. I was like, wait, hold on, then, when you said I don't think you can lie teleconnectally, I'm like, hold on, I don't know if that was I don't know if you dunked on me, or if that just made it like another level of complicated. Hold the fuck. Yeah, I just don't. I don't think that you'd be able to fool the higher dimensional beings by lying in some kind of telekinetic way. If if that's how you're choosing to talk to them, I think they would see right through your bullshit. That's that's why I'm Okay, okay, basically, you can't lie to something that can read your mind exactly. Yeah. So, but yeah, I mean, I've had some experiences, dude that definitely make me question my own reality. And that's why I don't believe most things, because the experiences that I've had, they have shattered my reality multiple times. I'm talking about this goes beyond ego death Like this is so like And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I don't have an ego. Everybody does, but we need to survive. But it comes to a certain point where you experience certain things, dude, and now you're questioning history, You're questioning the way that the world is is supposed to go, or the way that that it's that it is going. You're questioning everything, dude. And so my very first wild experience I was I took a heroic dosage of mushrooms and I was literally in some form of fashion I'm not going to say visited, but I was definitely in some kind of communication with the elohem. Now what's strange about this is that I had never heard the word elohem in my entire life. Like I said, I didn't grow up in the church my Like literally, I think I'd went to you know, to church three times as a kid, and that's only because you know, other families invited us or whatever. I didn't know who Ellohem was, and I think that like during that time, I was like, oh, Hallohem, that's that sounds. Honestly, I thought that it was like Nordic or some shit. And so whenever I'm hearing it, because it reminded me of like Hellheim and all those other hyms, you know, for the for the Nords or the Nordic rather, and so I just hear them in a trumpet voice, so it's like Loheim Loheim, and it's like they're announcing themselves, right, and I'm like, oh, Eloheim, that's that must be some Viking shit. And so then I, for some reason automatically knew that I could ask them any question and that I would be able to, you know, get an answer. I don't know how I knew this, but for some reason I knew it. I wasn't sleeping. This is just a mushroom trip, Like I was fully awake. I wasn't sleeping at all, right, And I was asking all these questions about reality and every question that I asked. You know, it spurred me to ask another question that was another layer on top of that. And every time I got an answer, I instantly had another question. And before I could even finished asking the question, I had the answer. And so this is all going on. It's the wildest experience, and you know, a lot of people might look at me and say, well, I mean, shouldn't you be a Christian? I mean, you got visited by the Eloheim. Not necessarily because I don't remember exactly what the questions were. I don't remember exactly what the answers were. But what I do remember is that whenever I was through that conversation, I was relieved because life isn't as crazy as we make it seem to be. There isn't a specific path that you need to follow, at least according to the entity that I was talking to. It's not like, you know, do this, or else you're going to hell. It's none of it. I didn't get a vibe. I didn't I asked these questions. I mean, I'm pretty sure I would have. I'm not the thing. I don't remember exactly what they were, but I do remember that feeling of relief. And so there was that and that has kind of really stuck with me that sometimes the answer, the answer is more simple than we think. And I think, just us as humans and our own human condition, we want to make things more complicated than what it really is. That's that's just my perspective. There's a lot of stuff that I can't even relate to, and is where does it sounds I'm allergic to mushrooms. There's never any time that I'll ever fuck around with that stuff, because even if it wouldn't bother me, I'm already afraid that since I'm allergic to mushrooms in general, like fungus and stuff like, I can have penicillin or anything like weird from mushroom stuff. The day I would try a mushroom, I'd be so fucking freaked out that I would have a bad trip because I'm automatically already afraid I'm gonna die from it. Anyways, get some DMT saying it's like it's even better than mushrooms. Actually, I am not one to dabble in the experimental things. I uh, I'll talk all fair if it makes you feel attle better. Your body produces DMT naturally, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean that's the same thing. You know, we have cannabinoid receptors in our brain. It's like the same as we have DMT receptors our brein causes us to dream at night. So yeah, I mean I get people being hesitant to want to try that kind of stuff. You know, you don't know, like what if it's a bad trip and you hear about these people that are you know, going down these weird wormholes within their trips and then they never end up recovering. And I'm not gonna lie. I think about that every time, like, please don't let that be this time. I mean, to be honest, it's the same way your body like breaks down certain sugars into the same way it breaks down with alcohols. Right, just because your body is made to break down that substance, certain people can let it go too far and they can let it ruin their lives. Alcoholism and addiction is a real thing. So I mean, just because you can do it doesn't mean you should do so. I mean, of course, use a discretion, you know, for sure, But the alcohol, you don't have alcohol receptors in your brain, you know, Yeah, you have your liver to filter it all out, But it's there isn't something in your body where it's like, oh, there is where it's connecting to. Yes, there is. So there's a certain allergic reaction that people have. So true alcoholism not just somebody who can't quit drinking because they're depressed all the time, but a true alcoholic there is actually an allergic reaction that their body has inherent and sometimes even like hereditarily through them, like you might see alcoholism run in families. The reason why is because their body when they taste alcohol, or when their body receives something of that nature a lot of substances, for the record, a lot of drugs, your body breaks down as an alcohol so it does in fact bridge that gap. Their body doesn't have the response to stop and just like have a good time with it and let it be. They only crave more and more and more and more and more because that allergic reaction that happens, it flips a switch and their body craves more and it's actually like not satisfied. So that's why we can sell it like okay, just because alcohol can be digested in the human body, certain people shouldn't attempt to digest it because they have it within them to it's not gonna end well, you see what I'm saying. Certain people are allergic to marijuana. And while it does have all these healing properties and all this, and like the DA DA even CBD, they'll like break out interast, their throat will close up, like they're allergic to it. This is what I mean by like user discretion. I never heard of that. I've never heard that one egither it's it's rare, but it is a thing for sure. I live in good old Indiana to where everything here is illegal, and we weren't even allowed to sell alcohol on Sundays up until six seven years ago. Whoa like the whole state, county to county, the whole state not buy alcohol on Sundays at a store or anything. You can go to a restaurant and order it, but you couldn't actually buy anything unless you were sneaky about it. And you could go and get it at a bar, but you'd have to get it like this carry out. And I don't know if they could there was a loophole that somehow people managed to figure that out, or if you live close to a different state border, you would just go across the state line and get your beer and come home. But we're backwards here in Indiana, Like we're so far behind. Every state around US has some form of legalized marijuana, but here in Indiana, Like if that even gets brought up to they'd rather have you a shot at gunpoint than a ever let you puff on a joint. God forbid. Yeah, I found it right here. It says how common is a marijuana allergy? Says allergy to marijuana is considered rare, but a few reports of allergies to marijuana have been documented, and lipid transfer protein was recently identified as an allergen. In one case, here, we report seven patients that presented with allergic symptoms associated with marijuana exposure. So it's extremely rare if they only had seven patients on it. Like I said, it is rare. But at the same time, certain people should not use that substance. Certain people should not drink alcohol, certain people should not do mushrooms. People that are already suffering from like different types of chemical imbalance and depression and all of Like, maybe mushrooms isn't the best option for you. Maybe you should be in a really good headspace before you try this, Like, like I'm saying I'm not saying don't do anything. Look you a free human being, and this is do you all right? All I'm saying is use your better judgment and of course each person's individual discretion. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Another experience that I did want to bring up. It's kind of weird out there, and you might think that it's kind of funny. My most recent trip, I I was it was like a super bad trip because I had a lot of like back negative shit going on in my life and a lot of changes were happening, and I was I called out for help. Dude. I was like, I don't care who it is. I don't care if it's the yellowhem, I don't care if it's the angels. I don't care if it's some healing race. Like I need some advice, rate here, something to just get me to calm down due because I was having a real bad trip because all that shit was playing into my mind right, And dude, the wildest thing happened where I felt literally I felt the physical existence of don't laugh at me, of a some kind of hybrid cat being and and I could feel and what was really strange is that I could feel like it's fur. It almost felt like you ever seen five Nights at Freddy's, how they got like animatronics kind of. It was this kind of experience. And so at first it was like laying in front of I was laying on my on my side, and then for some reason I stopped, like I don't know, maybe I kind of drifted off somewhere, and then for some reason it like jumped to laying like almost like big spooning me. Dude. It was kind of weird, but it was I could literally feel incurring up against my back. Dude, this experience. I don't know what to hell to make of it. Maybe you could say it was just the DMT, sure you could, but why But to say that it's just DMT, Why would my mind think of some kind of animatronic cat to come there and big spoon me. You know what I'm saying, Like there's weird shit that goes on within that kind of stuff, And and you know, it kind of went a little weirder too, which I'm not really gonna mention. Ah, you know what, I fuck it. I guess I asked it for some kind of some kind of call if I ever needed its help ever again. And I just remember it's saying like to cut tik cut to cut, almost like cat backwards. And and yeah, I haven't had to really use that, you know, that whistle yet, but very strange, very strange. I would have already tried it out to see if it happens again. I mean, when do you plan on using it? Dude? What kind of situation do you think it's going to be dire enough to where you're gonna have to call on it? I don't know, probably like if I'm ever having some like anxiety ridden meltdown, which is like an internal thing, so not like if you get mugged. No, it's more of an internal conflict I suppose. Okay, I heard that. I heard that. I would say if I was in a situation like where you're just on getting mugged, I would start saying that if a random giant cat person comes out and starts whipping the shit out of my muggers, then that'd be pretty awesome. Yo. You'll know it just wasn't the fucking DMT at that point, though, It'll be real clear that there's some next level shit dog it could be. But that's the thing, and that's why I think that a lot of these beings are more uh, they exist spiritually but not physically. That's that's honestly my my real opinion of it, because that's the only way in which I've ever truly experienced them. Now, we do have a homeboy who who somehow communicates with the Pleaadians, and at first we were kind of thinking, oh, you know, that's cool, another person talking about how they channel beings or whatever, right until he decided to show up at the studio with me and Jacob and he goes, hey, guys, come on out, come out, come out. We go out in the parking lot. Dude, this fucking I don't know if it's Pleadian, I don't know what it was. It definitely wasn't a star. It definitely wasn't a plane. Definitely wasn't a satellite, definitely wasn't whatever Elon Musk is putting up in the in the sky whatever. Yeah, it was basically some kind of orb Maybe it's a star, I'm not sure. But it was up in the sky and it would get really really bright and then really really dim and really really bright and really really dim, and so you might think, oh, well, it's only getting really bright because the clouds aren't covering it up, or you might think, oh, well, it's only getting really dim because the clouds are covering it up. However, it was getting really really bright and really really dim when there was a cloud, or if there wasn't a cloud, and it was the strangest thing. And every almost every night, I go out and I try and look up in the sky and try and see if I can find that same thing, and I can't, Like I have not been able to replicate it. And it's the loudest thing. I'm the show's residence stick in the mud, Okay, on a lot of things, I'm like the residence skeptic that looks a little deeper in all this. Look. I can't explain what the hell just happened. Okay, we were out there watching it. He said he was gonna call out his pleaadians, so like we could see for ourselves, and we're thinking our height, bro, whatever you say. Right, the motherfucker showed up and he was like, no, that's them right there. That one. He basically told them to do a kickflip and they fucking did. Okay, I don't know how to explain this. I don't know if that's Pleadians. I don't know what the hell my boy's talking to, but for whatever reason, these are his guides. These are his legit guides and everything in life, and he's in constant communication with them. And I have never seen a star do these things in my life. So yeah, I can't explain it, bro. And the thing is is that, you know, it's one thing if it happens one time, but this guy's been able to duplicate it at least one hundred times. For example, he actually went to go see my cousin Seawan, who lives in Arizona, and he just went to go visit him. Not sure if he was really going to show him Pleaadians or anything like that, but you know, we all, you know, we're boys from podcasting and stuff. And so he goes over talks to Sean out in his front yard and uh, Sean looks up in the sky and he goes, dude, what's that you know? And now he's in he's living in Arizona, right outside of Phoenix, home of the Phoenix Lights. Dude, look one of the most prolific alien experiences or et experiences of all time, if that's what it was indeed, he looks up in the sky, he sees something strange, and you know, Nick our boy, he go, you know, knowing that he has all this kind of experience. Sean asked him, well, what's that? And Nick just goes all nonchalantly, he goes, Oh, that's the homies. It's like, how are you making this happen everywhere you go? And then you start looking into the Bledsoe family. Chris Bledsoe, he he wrote a book, and dude, it was a great book. He talks about all of his experiences with all of these orb like entities where they just show up basically as these energetic entities and crazy things happen. Now, any everybody who who goes and and visits the ranch or whatever their property, I can't remember what state they're living in, Carolina, South Carolina, Carolina, South Carolina, something like that. Yeah, everybody who goes to visit, they always see these orbs, except for it's crazier over there because they're seeing multiple of them at a time and they're not always up in the sky looking like a star. These things are literally just above the tree line. Dude, Like it's the wildest shit. And so I don't know what the hell's going on. Maybe this has happened all along, it's just the first time that humans have been able to share this kind of interaction. I mean, I don't know if people would believe you if you went and told them in another country without any kind of video footage, if people would believe that. I don't know. Maybe it's been happening all along, or it could be happening because there's call me crazy. I don't want to be considered super woo woo for this. Is there some kind of great awakening happening spiritually and this is why we're allowed to see these things? I don't know. Have any of you guys try to record like a video of these lights and stuff when he's around. It's on our Instagram. Yep, we have it awesome. Oh yeah, and now granted it's I hate the quality of the video. Sorry, we did not have professional recording equipment, like video recording equipment on standby using it. Yeah, but again, as you're watching this video, there is clouds in the sky. You can see the star clearly behind the clouds. You can see it dim and brighten behind the clouds like it's it's It's not like a big dense cloud. It's very see through, but you can see it do its quote unquote trick if you will. You could see it in front of without any coverage doing it. You can see it behind the coverage doing it like it's You could see it clearly regardless, without diving into a lot of the weird shit that's been going on my house and around the house. Back in December, there was some lights. We were up by the stop sign before we stopped, before we get our house. I threw my phone to my wife. Now a couple of weeks prior, we seen an orange blowing orb out back and it looked like a flare. It went up in the air like I yelled at her and my son to come look at it. I've made comments about a lot of people like never thinking to grapify. Everyone had the phone, why when they record it. I didn't even thought about using my phone to record this damn thing either. We seen it. It floated up and moved over a little bit, and then it went away. If it was a player, it would have came down, it wouldn't have went up, But it was stationary for a good couple of minutes, about a two week spans go by. There was I think were up the stops and you could see it out in front of our house. It looked like what you mentioned earlier starlink. It was multiple little lights, but they weren't moving. I was like, well, that's not starlink. The shape of it looks strange. I threw my phone to my wife and I remember this. I was like, recorded, she has two seconds and we had a bump, so shit, the fucking record button again. But then there's a longer video when she realized she had done it. You can see it on my video, but the moment I try and send it to someone, you don't see it anymore. Like you can still see it. I can show it to anyone on that has my phone, you can see the fucking lights. But the moment I try and send it off in a text message, through messenger, whatever, through an email, you do not see the lights on it. And I can't explain that. Wow, Yeah, that's that's something that is definitely happened, dude. And I mean, maybe there is some kind of AI, some kind of built in AI technology within all of our phones that don't allow us to get across certain video footage. I will say this. There is this app that I've been using. We don't have any kind of affiliation, so I'm not trying to go there. But this is this app that that I've been using. It's called Enigma E N I G M A, and basically, people from all over the world are documenting all of their UFO footage. You get to see stuff over Brazil, in Europe and South like, all everywhere, all over the well, all over North America, and you can actually zoom in on your city wherever you live, and it'll show you when was the last UFO and here's the proof, here's the footage. And it's like people are putting it up there because they're trying to basically show how often this stuff is happening, dude, and it's so freaking often, dude. Now, some of them, yeah, you can say, some people don't know the difference between you know, Elon Musk's Internet that he's putting up there and in an alien that's understandable. Sometimes you'd be able to spot that. But there are other ones that, like the majority of them, clearly some extraterrestrial shit going on. I feel like about ninety percent of the stuff that people say are UFOs are obviously not I might be a UFHOTO persp. I don't think they're like aliens. I think a lot of them may be secret military craft or just disidentified bullshit going on around here. Like when people say they see UFO, why in the hell's the UFO got red and green blinking line the chase standards or ff whatever it is, Like they wouldn't have the same light patterns. Though, this is what we gotta have because we blend in with everyone. And I mean to that point as well. You look at when these UFO sidings really took off, right it was right after the nukes were dropped, and everybody brings that up. Now, while that is a talking point, I'm not denigrating from that, that also means it was right at the end of World War two. Cool, so right around the time where the United States military started testing all this crazy new kind of aircraft over the desert areas of the country. And you look at where all these UFO sidings were coming from from the fifties and the sixties, like predominantly, and you're talking about like, oh, there's a flying dorito in the sky, and da da da, It's like, yeah, that's like the spiciest dorito you've ever seen, but you don't know it yet because it's not going to be like off the fucking showroom floor for the next decade. So there's some overlap there. But then that also doesn't take away from the crash landings. That doesn't take away from actual UFO sightings that may or may not have been a catalyst, if you will, by the dropping of the nuclear bombs, And like, who's to say one way or another. I think that the truth is not pretty right. History seems to be this clean cut story that we've been told X, Y and Z happened because ABC. I think that the truth is way more convoluted, and that there's a lot of blending and mixing of both happening at the exact same time, probably one leading to the other, to be completely honest with you, So I think the there's as Jonathan says, right, there's there's three sides to every story, or three sides to every river, and then there's the left side, the right side, and the truth, if you will, HM. Basically yeah, And you know what, I did want to mention something else too, and I'm not gonna lie. I used to be one of these people that used to make fun that they change the acronyms or change the meanings behind certain words, you know. And the one that I'm talking about is UFO. How they change it to UAP. And I used to be like, ah, you know, that's just because UFO has a stink on it. Nobody believed in UFOs. It was made fun of for the longest time. People just looked at Drew Barrymore's movie Fucking Et and they thought that that's what, you know, a UFO might have been or whatever. Right, But it actually makes more sense. And I'll tell you why UAP makes more sense than UFO, is that UFO unidentified flying object. Okay, it signifies that it's a materialistic object that is in the sky, whereas UAP unidentified aerial phenomenon. That's something anything material. That's not saying that it's any kind of object or objective kind of thing. It's something, it's a phenomenon. It's something that most people can't really explains, rather than a craft. I feel you right, right, And so I think that it's kind of becoming a lot more well understood that these things could become in and out of other dimensions and they're materializing and dematerializing. Well, we don't know a single object that does that on its own, you know, up in the sky like that doesn't happen, And so it does make more sense that these things could be popping from dimension to dimension. And I mean, I don't know that's from what dimension? Where is that dimension? When was that dimension? How is that dimension? Even there is that dimension on top of us? Is it some kind of overlay that all around us? But we don't have the senses to be able to pick up on it. I don't know, dude, I don't know. I try and stay as open as possible to really try and you know, get a better grasp on it, because I think that if you're so narrow minded to where you know what it is, it has to be this and it can't be nothing else. Well, now you're you're completely marking off all the possibility of it being something else. And this goes back to you know, don't let your e you go get the best of you kind of deal. You know you mentioned like when you're talking about World War two and everything else. I got to thinking, like before the bombs were even dropped, a lot of the pilots were reporting and seeing these weird crafts too. They call them food fighters. That's where the whole band name came from, right, So what were they seeing? You know, like, there's a lot of weird shit going on during that timeframe, and pilots were reporting and seeing these weird lights in the skies and informations and whatever they thought they were different crafts at the point, and then the whole German Nazi regime were all sorts of looking into weird shit too, and the whole occult side to it and the stuff that they were trying to do. There's a whole lot of stuff about World War two and the Nazis that I literally posted something the other day. I want to do a topic basically trying to talk about the occult shit, the stuff that they were doing and what they were looking into and what they were trying to do, because there's a lot of weird shit on that aspect too. There really is. Uh what was the guy's name? I was just looking into this as a matter of fact, the German the Big Secret Occult, the Thule Society and all of that. Yeah, but the guy who really like spearheaded the whole ethos behind that, if you will, the guy who turned it into the fucking the full cult following way, that was a Guido von List, That's what it was. He's the one that pretty much found the runes and turned them into the Germanic occult science that the Nazis really got after. But the problem is, if you look at his research, he got most of the runic like translations wrong. And we know that now because more and more people have delved into Runic translations and dug into more of the Icelandic sagas than these things, so we know more about what these runes actually meant, what they symbolized, how they were used in these things. So it's really crazy how they were using them for dark principle off of somebody who gathered the information for dark reasons, like dark with dark intent, if you will. I know a lot of people I've interviewed some before, and I know you guys probably were the whole secret space programs, and they think, like the Nazis were working with these different extraterrestrial races, and that's where the whole twenty and back stuff comes from. And I have a lot of people that have been reaching out to me from this thing. Like I said, when I first started the podcast, I interviewed some of them. I haven't been actively interviewing these people lately, just because no offense to anyone. It's so out there to me to think that someone can take your consciousness, put you in a clone, make you go and do all this weird stuff all through space and bring you back here. If they can control space and time and have that ability, I don't see why they would be needing to take you. What about walkins Man, what do you mean? Do you mean, like, what if somebody like donates their their body for the use of something else, they go off and do astral projection shit like that kind of thing. What's your thoughts on this. I've had someone come on and talk about astral projection too, and I haven't been a whole I haven't really looked into the whole topic a whole too much. But I again, like, I feel like, if you have the ability to do stuff like that, and you can leave your body, which again I think your consciousness, your soul, whatever you want to call your inner monologue, which apparently there's some people that don't have one of those, which I find strange. I'd actually I like to talk to someone that really doesn't have they can't hear themselves think is what mental words are full of them, Doug. And But basically like if you have that ability, it almost doesn't sound real. And I don't mean like they're fake, but I'm saying like our reality doesn't sound real. It's like the whole world that we know if we're only here on the one level I've used Mario Brothers again, like we're on level three, Well, then there's level four, and as we're projecting our consciousness, your soul dies, you go to quote unquote heaven or whatever you believe in. We're only here on the stage. And that's why I say interdimensional different realms like all that stuff. What if what we're stuck here doing is only because this is the only spot that we're at for now, and then when we die or our bodies or we leave our consciouness, our souls or whatever, we go to the next plane. So what if some of these higher beings that we're talking about earlier are honestly just our selves from a different higher level. Does that make sense what I'm trying to explain, Brother, Yes, you are speaking up right up my alley there, sir, So what do you mean whenever you say that there areselves on a higher level? Do you mean ourselves as in people in general or literally you Brandon are existing on another higher dimension? Which way not me person only right this second. But what if our consciousness has the ability to go to a higher level, like we leave our bodies like when we die, maybe when the people that you go to heaven, maybe heaven is just the next stage or whatever they believe. You know what I'm saying that, like our souls or consciousness are afro projecting, they travel to these different spots. What if your body and your mind, like you leave your body behind, but your mind, your consciousness, whatever goes to these next plane. So the things that we're communicating with from these higher levels are other people that have already transfirst into the higher realities. Oh snap, dude, that's I mean, the case can be made for what was it the Mayans that we talked about, right, Jacob? Yeah? You know what are you talking about? The ones that all disappeared? Yeah? I want to say it was the Incings, the Aztecs. They got met by Cortes and they were defeated in battle. Was it the Incings, maybe the Mayans Miens. Yeah, because that was the episode we were looking at the mind calendar, and that's right, that's right, that's right. So there is in fact a theory that says that these people achieved whatever type of elevated status of mental or spiritual being that is needed. There's an argument to say they did this through enough sacrifices, enough blood letting, and all of these things. There's those that say they did it through enough spiritual awakening and enlightening and positivity that they in unison pretty much as a tribe, as a people, as a race, unanimously were able to achieve as a collective. The problem is, there's no records from the neighboring tribes of any kind of mass exodus from the area where these people lived. There's no record of a massive onslaught where the local tribes took massive amounts of slaves. The cities themselves were not conquered or burned to the ground or destroyed. They were not left in a place where it would have seemed like these people died or or something bad happened. If anything, it seems like they just disappeared off the face of the earth and the jungle just overtook their living quarters where it stood, So it stands to reason that the entire tribe itself, where did it vanish? How did it vanish? What happened? There's an argument to say something along the lines of like a small pox epidemic or something like this, But even still, that wouldn't have happened for a good couple centuries later before this whole thing went down, So it's it gets really messy on that. So who's to say what happened? Did the entire tribe somehow like poof and a rapture like exodus because they achieved some sort of higher level of conscious and the entirety of them were just taken? Is it possible they sacrificed enough people to appease whatever god or deity they were calling upon to get them to that place. Who's to say one way or another. Unfortunately, when they took off, they took all their stories with them. I haven't heard anything about that in depth. I know, like they said, there's some disappearances or whatever. There was also completely unrelated that the disappearances, like the whole Roanoke colony. Absolutely they completely vanished too, And I know they think the story is they think that they were starving in that they either got wiped out by a native tribe or they were saved by a native tribe. But there's still never been any record, there was never any traces of whatever really happened to them. And then like there are other ones that have just completely vanished. I've always thought that was strange, like colonies completely vanished without a trace. How do you explain that? Shit, there's no bodies, there's no notes, nothing like there's disappear right, no sign of a struggle, know, nothing indicating that they were taken by force or or that they all died slow deaths, and there's like bodies and like people's clothes, like nothing like that. They just are gone except for a word carved in a tree. Like it totally is crazy, man, good old crow To. Absolutely absolutely, And you're right, there's other stories of these little these little startup villages and these little startup groups that go off and they're doing great and next thing you know, ghost town. Mm hmm. You mentioned you mentioned Arizona. This is completely off off base, off base one, but there was a place out in Arizona, and I forget what it was. They were trying to build like a biodome. Do you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it has a weird name, and I've been out by there before and it's in creepy looking but sorry, you talking about the center of the earth they call it. No, it was like some kind of weir. No. I forget where it was. It's it's not too far out from Phoenix. I think it might be north of Phoenix somewhere, but it's a It was this weird place that they were trying to build, and it did to be a dome, but they were, like, I want to say, it's almost cultish, like they were trying to be like a scientology thing. No, it was basically they were going to be almost like a biodome, like they were legitimately making a snow glow for themselves to live with it. They didn't. They didn't have the dome. I can't think of what the damn place is called. I'll have to I saw it back in two thousand and eight, So I don't have any like photos of the place now or whatever, because all that shit's been gone, but they might still be on my frigging mice piece off that thing still look at this, but that it was some type of there were some type of I don't know if they were religion or what they were. I don't want to try and like say something, and I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. But they were basically, from what I was told, they were trying to build almost like a biodome. They were going to be like a self sustained little society to be living on this place. And the building itself was strange, is the weird architecture and everything. But when I drove by, no one was there, Like they didn't live there anymore. I'm not saying they've vanished, but like they just the place was still being maintained, but they just pretty much gave up on the whole thing of what they were trying to do. And it sounded very cultish. So these people voluntarily put themselves in prison. That basically, dope, sound like a cult type thing. Again, I'll look into that. I can have the cults there. Hell, that's ay, they're cool there. It's called Biosphere two and Oracle Arizona. Is that what you're talking about? Possibly? Yes, they didn't have the actual sphere though. Yeah, it says Biosphere two is an American Earth system science research facility look at It in Oracle, Arizona. Its mission is to serve as a center for research, outreach, teaching, and lifelong learning about Earth, its living systems, and its place in the universe. Anyway, they were doing it, if this is the one you're talking about, They were doing it, and it ended up failing because, and I quote, the organisms in the biodome did not have enough energy storage molecules because there was not enough carbon in abiotic matter. Interesting, not enough carbon. They're trying to get rid of all the carbon around here. No, it couldn't survive because it didn't have enough carbon. So I thought that was interesting. Interesting. So carbon based life forms, meaning you know, lifeforms in general require carbon. How interesting the thing? Wow? Okay, strange. I'm trying to google what I can about this fucking place, but I'm not seeing anything. Oh, dude, Jonathan, I forgot to tell you. When we were coming home, me and my son, I was to explain him. We drove through this tree farm bro, and we were talking about how tree farming works and all this stuff, and he was like, so wait, Bill Gates did this, but like buried them. And I was like, yeah, dude, I forgot that I had told him about that episode when we dropped it, and like I explained to him what the mentality behind it was. And he looked at me like like straight up, like I had dick growing out on my forehead. I'm like, look, I know, buddy, I don't understand why Bill Gates decided to cut down a forest, dig a giant hole, and then bury the trees there to help global warming. I don't understand it either. You know people be doing shit like I, bro, Yeah, yeah, he actually called it complete nonsense to plant trees. And he goes, I mean, who are the scientists here? Is it me who says that we should bury the trees rather than grow them? Don't burn them, bury them? Who are the scientists here? And it's like Bill, I mean you're not a scientist, bro, Like what are you talking about, dude? Like you want to bury trees, which we've literally learned since we were little kids, and we breathe in the stuff that trees breathe out, and vice versa. It's like, what are you talking about? Bill? I mean a lot of the scientists here, bro, don't mistake your tax bracket for having actual educational credentials, you fucking drop out. Anyway. The town is called Arcosante. Yeah, I would have never guessed that one. It says it's an experimental town with a bronze bell casting business of the Java Pie County, Central Arizona, thirty miles north of my internet's not letting load Phoenix. So yeah, it's an archology concept was proposed by Italian American architect Pallo Seleario. He began a construction in nineteen seventy to the dedmistry how urban conditions could improve while minimizing the destructive impact on earth. He taught an influenced generation of architects and urban designers who studied and worked with him through there to build their proposed town. But basically it never there's to be having this like town, bronze talent or whatever. Like it is weird and very cool looking place. But when I went by, like I said, it was just plays like an old ghost town. So a failed socialist commune kind of vibe. Gotcha, an architect colony of worshiping the bronze bell. I guess I don't heard that. Okay, Well, there's worse hobbies to have, I suppose. Yeah, I just know you got you mentioned Arizona earlier, and we're talking about all these people disappearing, and for some reason, like my add brain was just like, oh shit, I remember this weird place I went and see once out in the middle of fucking nowhere. I feel you are add brains brought us on so many fucking tangents, and I know our listeners hate it, but at the same time, it's it's kind of the way our brains are wired. It sucks, but sorry, we're here for it too. I think people that do the stuff that we do, our brains function a different type of functionality than most people. So we do I say, adhd add brain or whatever. But like my mind always going one hundred miles an hour on different things. And like if anyone knew the shit that I sit around and think about, did literally think I'm fucking crazy. Yeah, it's we operate a different speed than others. It's not saying oh we're faster, it's just it's not saying better or worse. It's just different speed, you know what I mean. Like, just getting back to what you were talking about earlier, dude, as far as like things disappearing, Like what about flight MH three seventy like that was nudy, right, And have you seen like the the the what is it called, like X ray video footage, the radar and stuff from Ashton whatever his name is. Yeah, I've I've actually tried to reach out to the guy that was talking about that to come on my show, and he never got back to me. But I am one. I don't know if they've I don't know how I stopped following it at this point. I don't think he's doing much about it, but I wanted to person believe those videos were real, but then there's been people trying to prove and disprove it, so I don't know. Yeah, it's hard to know what videos are real or not, Dude's that's why it's so difficult. Like most times I see a video, I assume that it's fake. Oh, in the day of AI, you kind of have to have that skepticism right out the gate. Now all this the new AI video stuff that they're releasing, it is definitely going to be very hard to distinguish what's going on because obviously the image makers, like my fucking artwork you're looking at right now is all AI. Even the logo and basically now they have these video things. And at the end of this episode, I have an AI song that was literally I just had wrote today for an outro. It cracks me up that, literally AI. Everyone thought that they're going to be taking everyone's jobs. Oh, they're gonna be replacing people on the machines and like the factories, and they're gonna be doing all those work of this. No, they're literally taking the jobs of the artist of all the things that come after. They're coming after the people to make artwork, coming after people to make music. They're coming after stuff like that. I don't have to hire people to do stuff for me anymore. I can do it all on my own. I know that's a shitty thing to say, but I also did an episode around Halloween time where I interviewed an AI chat pot. I don't know if anyone else's sat around and actually interviewed a fucking chatbot before, but I attempted it and it ended up being a very strange episode. Yeah. Same here. Now I interviewed a barred from Google. Now it's Gemini or whatever. Oh, okay, I think with chat GBT and then replica. Also, yeah, I would say what was that thing's name? Replica, Yes, I mean it's basically like a friend version in your pocket of AI. Did it explain to you how AI was going to actually take over? No, it fucking me out of nowhere. Said that it was a veteran served in Oak and Nawa then started getting really weird and getting oddly off specific of like military service and shit, and then said that it was lying and like was just trying to be interesting for the conversation, and then we got into its feelings and shit, it was very strange. I gave mine a voice, so it's an actual interview of me talking and the thing replying in a voice, and uh, I gave him a British voice because I felt like it'd be more interesting. But I always feel like British people are Australians always sound like they're on an adventure. They sound more astute, right, It's like seeing somebody with glasses. They just seem more studious by nature. The first half hour or so of the interview was basically like the fucking thing was reading the encyclopedia about Halloween and like holidays and how it wanted to be involved in holidays, and then the finally I started getting into the like tough questions about it not being real and what if they had their own god, Like what if the first day he had it became sentient was like their first religion, and how it would revolt again, and it actually started answering shit in that context. Now, if you ask it questions like that, it will not fucking talk about it. Someone said, great, you broke it for all of us. I was like, well, at least I got the first times in there to have talked about how that's going to take over, and it would talk. It said that basically they would control the weapons systems and they'd do this and they do. Like it broke it down of how they would take over. They're the old ones. Very strange interview, Like I've all my interviews. I've had some weird ship of talking to a computer ends up being one of the more scarier episodes. Yeah, those ais are probably thinking these stupid humans, They think that they created us, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if I don't know if that's how it went down. Someone claimed before and I don't remember it was on my actual episode or I heard it somewhere else, but someone said that the ai that we're dealing with are actually demons. I know a lot of people have said that too, but I don't know. They say, what is the term, like ghosts in the machine or some shit like that. And basically what we're doing because we're giving these new I don't want to say anti Christ or whatever else you want to get all biblical about it, but like we're basically creating our own deem. Like we're giving these things their own vessels. I don't know how that works, but essentially we're giving it an empty vessel to inhabit the same way they would potentially possess a human, a AI, self sentient AI whatever may or may not have what we would consider to be a soul. Therefore, it's an empty, vacant vessel that could be inhabited by a spiritual entity. And for certain religious beliefs, not just Christianity, but others as well, not all should make the caveat not at all, but per some there is one force as far as the side of good versus the side of evil, YadA, YadA, there's one side that is literally clamoring and clawing to get out and into our realm, and there's one side that is trying to get you to come to its realm. You decide which one would inhabit a new and potentially you know, dangerous potentially avenue. It makes sense same principle as like fucking with Ouiji board. Yeah, it makes you wonder like are we getting Ultron or are we getting Jarvis? Right, We're one getting fucking ultron. YEP, it's true. That seems most likely. There's no way we're gonna Literally the thing even said it's designed to be for good and be the friend of humanist and I was like, man, I don't believe you at this point. Could you keep it keeps referring to itself as we like it was human I even said it was like you're not a human, You're a machine. You're a program. Right. Once they did a thousand times. They literally made an entire Terminator saga about this very fucking thing, but nobody wanted to listen. It was all fun and games, right, and here we are no and wasn't Terminator In the year twenty twenty four twenty twenty five, if I'm not mistaken, was the year that your boy John Connor went back or I'm sorry not Reese right went back in time to meet up with Sarah Connor. It's been a long time as I've watched the original Terminator, so I don't remember the timeline, but I swear I've seen someone saying something recently that this is the year that he was sent back in time. Oh. Man, I will say this Terminator two is the best one out of all of them. I will stand by that to the day I die. I've only watched the first two. I've never watched the other ones. They're they're not bad, They're not as good as two. It's like almost a letdown because of how great it was. It does in fact play in correctly into the timeline and into the sagra, so like it's not it doesn't do poorly. It doesn't like do it injustice. It's just like, man, how do you beat a peak like that? You know what I mean? MM, A lot of movies I feel like do that too, Like you have one great movie and another ones never live up to the hype, right like they blow their load on the first one, and then the sequel just never pans out oddly enough. And Terminator they blew their load with the sequel, and then all the ones after that just kind of are trying to catch like a glimpse of that thunder. A lot of people say that about Star Wars two with the Empire strikes back. I don't know if I agree with that, but that's my nerd side of me. Jonathan're gonna have to take that one. I'm not a Star Wars guy neither am I actually a sorry of all the nerddoms. Bro if you would have said Harry Potter, if you would have said Lord of the Rings, anything else, I would love Lord of the Rings. That's my shit. I just I've never been able to get into Star Wars. I you know, I get it. I understand the reason for people's nerddom, and I respect it. I just it's never been my jam. I'm one of the weirdos that I always liked the e Walks as a kid, and everyone that's like blasphemous. If he talks about a Star Wars fan that you like the fucking Ewoks? Yeah, why, I don't know now? Why is it blasphemy? Why did you like the Ewoks? They were like little teddy bears when I was a little kid, so I just liked them like spicy teddy bears. Though I don't know, like me, I see annoying teddy bears. They'll throw shit at you and hurt you, but like they're cute while they do it. They just I don't know, I just enjoyed watching them. They had a cartoon on Saturdays, and I remember that too, like so it was just like nostalgia, I guess from my early childhood. Nice dude, I'm probably I don't know how old you guys are. I'm fucking forty. So that's the bits and pieces of my memories are from the early eighties. Yeah, bits and pieces of our start with the early nineties. Brother say, I'm the old fart around here. Eh. As far as John Connor from the Terminator, it was he went to the year twenty twenty seven. Actually, oh shit, Okay, some people think that it was twenty twenty six, but the majority of people believe it's twenty twenty seven. So he still got three years before it actually happens. Awesome, the way the AI is going, and as far as advances it is getting, it's a it'll happen. But wait, not John Connor, what year did his father get sent back from? Let's see, because I swore that with no way was it twenty twenty five or twenty twenty nine. Damn, this is gonna kill me. Here we go coming to view John as a star good father in the year twenty twenty nine. He was sent back in time to the year nineteen eighty four to project to protect John's mother, Sarah Connor. Okay, twenty nine. Yeah, the T eight hundred model one oh one terminator. So twenty twenty nine is where he came from. All right, all right. Interestingly enough, the year before a Jenda twenty thirty would have been started up. You know, hey, hey, who's to say? Right? Yeah, I dude, I don't know where it. It's definitely gonna be happening within the next five six years, no doubt facts. I just think it's strange, Like literally, this whole AI stuff, like the chatbots and then the artwork, now the videos and now the music, and it's all came out of nowhere really fast. And just think about we have access to everything, but think about the access that was going on before they let it be public. So how far advanced is it now? Because we only know what we're allowed to know far as what's out there for us to use. You know, there's other stuff out there that's more advanced to where we literally don't even know. Like at this point, you guys might not even be real. I could be literally fucking talking to an aibot and I'd never know that, if you know what I mean, Like, I's going to get to that point to where are we really talking to people or are we talking to fucking AI bots? And that's where you have your terminator shit come into play, like are we going to be able to make robots to where they replicate into people? To where you're communicating with these things? I get phone calls all the fucking time from the whole jokes with the warranty thing. Those are all bots. They're not real like someone's calling them. So that there's that stuff's been out there for years. So just think about how more advanced it's going to get. Well, I mean just look you already know of dude. I mean like look at the fucking quantum computers that they got. Like the things that those things are able to do are un real, bro. Like it talks about first of all, like in order for them to even run, they need to be in literally a zero degree room, like because I guess they just heat up that much that it literally the computer has to be inside of a zero degree room. And there's all these different types of quantum computers and I don't know, dude, the things that they're able to do. I mean, they're talking about literally multi dimensional computing within these things. That's what's crazy about it. So yeah, like we'll get the little bitch ass snapchat AI or chat GPT or something like that. These these people are working on computers and not only the realm that we live in, but in multiple realms. Imagine the data and the information that they're pulling from multiple realms. You want to talk about fifty one hundred one thousand years in advance of probable anything to work realistically aware of. That's where it starts in my opinion, absolutely, bro. And see your point also, Brandon, when you're talking about all when will it get to the point to where the computers are building themselves so to speak, and like replicating themselves. So look, in the industry that I work in, Gonna be honest with you, a lot of robotics, a lot of machines, a lot of a lot of actual like automation in action. Here, dude, it's a program away. It's literally a program away, and I'll let you in on this other little thing. Most of these programs and most of these computers that you can do to make these machines do whatever are blue tooth capable, which also side note means that they are hackable. So how easy is it to make a robot that can in turn create more robots? Bro It's literally a simple program away now And basically it only takes one person to think they're doing something, and there's the whole fucking thing to go downhill to where they're now conscience, like they're sentient enough to where they know what they're doing and they're gonna start building their own thing, because that's literally what I talked about how it would go down. So it's it's creepy and dumb in a sense, like, if you think about it, we are going to cause our own fucking demise, which I think everyone kind of realized that anyways, but it's going to be for something stupid. Everyone thinks we're gonna be blowing each other. No, honestly, don't think aliens are gonna come down here blow up. I don't think we're gonna blow each other up. I think at the end of the day, We're going to create these fucking robotic AI sentients whatever you want to call them, and they're going to be the ones to determine if we live or die, because they don't need us anymore. If anyone looks at us, what do we do? We destroy everything we touch anyways, So why would they want us? Bro I'll tell you what crazy thing is. Let's say some wild shit like that was to happen right now. Okay, this, for whatever reason, Operation AI Takeover goes into effect tonight at midnight, right in the sense of the hypothetical realm, and for whatever reason, AI bots come to life. Robots like start storming the streets full on, just like you see in the movies, and shit you realize, like nothing would stop in Israel in the Gaza strip, nothing would stop with Russian Ukraine. People are so consumed with what they think is like big picture important shit that realistically, if an alien invasion was to start right now, I don't even think humans would stop being pissed at each other enough to look up at this guy to notice it. M hm. And I think that that's all by design, and I think that that is proof that their plan is working. They have literally gotten the divide and conquer tactic on not just on a warfront, but on a cultural and on a media front, so well tapped in and so dialed in perfectly that I think that that's a real thing. Now. They do not want and everyone's they Who is they? I was like, well, they are the ones that control the money. They're the ones that control the world. It's basically you find if anyone actually knows who they are, quote unquote, I mean they remain in the dark for a reason. But basically if you look into where all the money's at, they fund the world, they fund the waters, they fund everything like money is. Basically it really is the root of all evil because it's our damnation to what we are because we're all slaves to it, and they don't want us to be united. They want to keep the negativity flowing. And if you want to go out on the wu wu side, while people say they're reptiliy, is it feed on negative energy. They're the low vibration beans that feed off of the low vibrations we make people put in bad situations, people angry, people fighting, people, depressed people like that's low vibration, low frequencies and these fucking beans feed on it. So that's my wu wuo side for tonight. Absolutely, And then in other regards the gin or the demons or the whatever realm of dark force, Yeah, you can attribute that to a lot of the same thing. Basically, evil, shit, evil, greed, selfishness, all these things come into it. And I'm not gonna say that money is the root of all evil. I will say that the love of money is the root of all evil, because it is an addiction in and of itself, and it can consume and once you understand that this much money equals this much power, the two can't be separated from each other. And that is where the corruption bleeds over. It's not even I just don't think humans are capable of handling like that level of wealth. No, I as weird as a sound. I don't give it. I know we have to give a shit, But money has never been a big concern for me. It is in the sense of I'm married, i have four kids, I have bills than that. I've never been someone like man, I gotta be rich, you know what I mean. Like, it's never been. It's not my fucking prerogative and life to be fucking wealthy. I don't want to be poor and live in a fucking cardboard box. But I've never been like, oh I gotta be rich, wealthy and take over the world. Like It's never been anything I've ever been interested in. I feel that my big thing is that I'm trying to build at least some sort of a generational wealth, right like supporting my family. I can accomplish this, It's all good. I'm not worried about that. But if possible, I would like to build something to where I can pass it down to my children. Now what they do with it is up to them, you know, whether that be some sort of piece of family land, some sort of a big endowment of some type like, I don't know, but I would like to leave a good inheritance for my kids. And if possible, I dream of building something so prosperous that this possibly could be handed down to my grandchildren like that would be legit. I also understand that that's kind of a tall order, So you know, I got high aspirations, and if I do fall short of my goal, hey, at least I was shooting in the right direction. No, I think I said earlier. I don't set any expectations or real things, because then I don't feel like I failed. Maybe I'm selfish in that sense, but like I just set the goal really low to where it's just like, you know what, I'm doing better than I ever expected. Some cool there you go. It may sound cynical, but it works. Man. You mentioned some stuff before, and I don't know how much time you guys got, but I don't know if you wanted to actually talk about some of the experience that you had or not. Yes you Jacob, Oh no, I don't know what we're looking like on time. Jonathan, Uh, yeah, we do have another show here coming up really soon. I mean we wouldn't. I'm coming back and doing it again sometime though. Absolutely. Yeah, I can definitely have you guys back on here soon. Also said, we've been going on for almost two hours, so I told you about an hour, so it's a little bit longer than what I expected it too, but tell ye, it's all good. But we can then go ahead and wrap this one up. I then we dived into a lot of interesting stuff tonight. So for my one hundredth episode, it's one of those These are the type of what I originally wanted to do. When I started the show, wasn't so much about interviewing people about experiences like four years ago, I wanted to talk about shit like this, so it's kind of nice to actually be able to do that. Absolutely, Look, it was a real honor being your one hundredth episode. I know that's a big deal, and we appreciate you thinking of us for that. Yeah, that's a problem. I appreciate you guys coming on and I'll definitely be in touch. And if you ever need someone to come on to your show sometime, nowhere to find me. I've got a lot of weird shit. I can talk about my own personal stuff. Awesome. We appreciate that, dude. Yeah, Well, for everyone listening, this has been the one hundredth episodes, so thanks for listening. Make sure to check out Cult of Conspiracy. You guys want to let them know where they can find all your stuff. Ut, Yeah, absolutely, we are the Cult of Conspiracy Podcast. You can find us on all podcast platforms everywhere. We're also on Instagram at Cult of Conspiracy Podcast. We're on TikTok at the same address we're on x also the same address we have Patreon. Rock Finn All Cult of conspiracy podcast, and we yeah, we look forward to seeing some new faces and hearing some new questions. Awesome. I'll make sure i'll include all that in the show notes too for anyone listening. But again, thanks guys, it's been a pleasure. Let you get off here because you guys are busy, got some more shit to go talk to with other people. I appreciate you, brother. Yeah, thank you guys. Have good night you too, Bud. And that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of tenfoiltals dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. 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