Ep. 101: Interdimensional Contactee

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it don't like death. Welcome back to another new episode of Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host Brandon Right tonight's episode, We're going to be joined by my guests Nancy Thames. Nancy reached out to me a while back. She's had some experiences involving possible inter dimensionals and extraterrestrials. 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So if you want to talk to me there, want to tell me some of your experiences or whatever, we can do that. Just stop by the booth. We'll sit down talk about it. But I think now we're gonna go ahead and bring Nancy on. Looking forward to see what she's got to say. Hope you guys enjoy the conversation, So sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I'd like to take this time and welcome my guest to night, Nancy Tams. Thanks for coming on here and talking to me. Thank you. I'm Brett glad to be here. Hope you're doing well. I am doing well. Hope you are too. Yeah, you reached out to me a while back. You mentioned some stuff that piqued my interest. So if you want to let the audience know a little bit about yourself and what it is you're going to talk about and you go ahead, Okay. My name is Nancy Tams. I am a lifelong contactee with positive extraterrestrials and interdimensional extraterrestrial beings. And this started my first conscious memories of all. This started that I remember was around two to three years old, and so this has been happening to me all my life and throughout the years. Most of my life I didn't understand. I knew it was happening, but I didn't understand why. I didn't understand the purpose. So I grew up in a period of time where you couldn't really talk about these things, and I was told by my family not to talk about these things. I was very active in school, very active in sports, very active in Girl Scouts and all kinds of activities, and basically I was told that you cannot talk about these type of things to anyone else. And I think my parents just kind of thought that I had a very vivid imagination. They just kind of knocked it off, like, well, you know, it's kind of like some people considered their child having an imaginary friend or something, only my situation was a bit different than that. But I think they thought that it was very vivid dreams. So basically what would happen is they would come. Always there would be three, and it would be three grades that would come to get me all my life up until presently they still there's the same three, one in particular as a female grade, and I am bonded with her, and I know now I didn't know all my life, but I know now that she is a hybrid that was designed by the interdimensionals and the tall grades, and they designed her to come and get contactees. Interdimensionals and extraterrestrials have a problem with the density on Earth and they don't really like it. It's uncomfortable for them, so they created this hybrid and it's created in their DNA so they can withstand our density and come back and forth. So basically that's really all she does is come and get me, get me see situated. A lot of times what they would do when I was young, they would take a hand scanner and not touch me with it, but take it and go from head to toe to head, up and down. And I would be laying on the bed and all of a sudden, I would notice that my body would start to float up. And I never understood why or you know what exactly was going on. But when this would happen, even though I was purposely keeping my eyes closed to a boyd looking at them, I would look down and see that I was physically floating off the bed and my body was I was raising upwards, and this was physically happening to me. It was not a dream, It was not an outer body experiance. It was a physical thing. So this continued all my life, and it wasn't until I got older, and as I got older, visitations continued, and of course I know as I got older, I wanted to know, demanded to know more reasons why it was happening to me. And I also figured out in my twenties that this was not just happening to me, It was happening to my two youngest sons, and that really disturbed me when I realized that I just did not understand at all, and so I started demanding information and they told me what they felt I could handle. At the time, they did not tell me everything, but basically what they told me was that I had made a decision before being born as a human being to be here at this particular time for humanity to help assist human beings into understanding we are not alone in the universe in understanding that we are finally reaching higher conc sciousness and they can finally have a face to face contact with us over all, and we will understand that they are not God's and they are not angels. And basically all my life they were just getting me prepared and letting me adjust in age and live my human experience and get used to all this to do what I'm doing now, and that is to help humanity. How long have you been doing this for them? Well, I'm sixty three and it's up till right now. Yeah, So I do know that they did explain to me that when they were coming to get me when I was little, when I would be under the sheets, basically I knew that they were coming and I could feel it. I have the ability to fill their frequency, and I know just before they come, so if I'm a little fearful, I'll keep my eyes closed, or they actually may have told me to do that just to make things quicker and easier for me. But they explained to me that we live in a three D world. So what they were doing was that scanner thing going up and down and that vibrational frequency. It was that they were changing my frequency to match their frequency. Therefore I could travel up through the roof or through a window or a door, which humans aren't able to do in our three D worlds. So they were changing my frequency to match theirs, and then I would travel with them. Yeah, and once the Grays got me all craft, I didn't even see I don't even see them anymore. When I'm on Craft, I see the inner dimensional beings, which are about seven to eight foot tall. They have human like features, but they're more whitish looking, and they're, you know, very tall, and they're definitely not human, but they have human like characteristics. And then I see a lot of tall grays, some aquatic beings. Every once in a while, i'll see reptilians. I see Nordics or Palladians. I'm not quite sure. They're both look a lot alike to me, to be honest with you, so it's kind of hard for me to tell. But so basically, once i'm there, then they'll take me through a I go before a group of peers who I'm sure are evaluating me to see what my evolutionary stage is, what my spiritual group is how I'm handling the balance between my human experience and also having this extraterrestrial experience, and then when that is over with, then it is the three grades that will bring me back home. So it's an interesting process and I've not always liked it, to be honest with you. There was many, many long periods of time that I did not understand, and it wasn't until about two years ago. I think they sensed my frustration and they gave me a condolini awakening. And when that happened, I was a sleep in the bed and my body jerked forward and I raised my head up and sitting up right in the bed, and then I had like these surges come in and started through my head and went all the way down to the trunk of my body and then went back up, and then I would go back down. And this happened like three times. And when it was happening, I had no clue what it was going on. It scared me. I was very confused about it. But later they explained to me that they were opening my subconscious up until to my human consciousness so that I can remember my past life memories and so that I can remember who I am, and what the reason why I came here into work towards my mission. You mentioned your sons are experienced. They were, They still have the same experiences that you've had. Oh yeah, they do. One has exactly what I have. The youngest one is just at his beginning stages. This is not something that you get used to overnight. This is not something that you understand overnight. It's not like anything we experience here on Earth, and it goes against everything that we have been programmed to think. Our physics does not apply. There's so many things that don't apply, and it's a big, big thing to understand and swallow and realize that what sometimes seems to be there was like when they came to get my two sons, rather than me understanding at that time at my age, that they could have done that without me even knowing, but they allowed me to see it. I understand now that I'm older, everything was done for a reason and for a purpose. So that's why I think a lot of people that have had interactions misunderstand what is going on because it's not something that we normally you would understand. It's very confusing and it's easy to let the fear get the best of you, and I even sometimes now still have to deal with the fear. I feel it sometimes and I have to remind myself you've done this before. Just go with it. You know, there's nothing to be secured up. It's just different, you know, if you think about it in the sense of what we do here on Earth with other species, like if we tag things, we get them, we bring them in, we study them, and then we release them. We do the same exact thing. We're not thinking about how the animal feels about it, how the animal copes with it. They're basically doing the same thing to us. So we did everything else. So basically they're giving us exams. They're checking our evolutionary stage because this is what they've been waiting on, is for humanity. And everywhere you look now you'll see where everybody's talking about frequency, higher vibrations, frequency, they're talking about consciousness, and that is because humanity is waking up. We are not completely there yet, but we are moving from three D dimension into the fourth or on two fifth at least into the fourth and happening now. So when that started happening, that is what brought down the inner dimensional and the positive extraterrestrials started coming around us and surrounding our planet in big motherships. And there had been a rogue race of Grays that had done some trading technology for they were doing genetic experiments and things of this nature with the government. These were not a group of extraterrestrials that had humanity's best interests in mind. They were specifically here on their own agenda and they did not care what human beings thought. They didn't care if we didn't understand what the purpose of things were. So these are different beings that are here now. And when we started reaching higher consciousness, they told this lower race of extraterrestrials to leave humanity alone. So all that I want to say happened around in twenty twenty when they kind of said back off. Things are changing on planet Earth. For one, our planet is going through an extension herself. And from what they've taught me, our planet is a living conscious being. Everything our plants, our trees, our water, our ear, everything that is living conscious beings. Even the planets in the universe are living conscious beings, and everything is connected. We are all one and we're all connected. So whatever we do not only if playing with technology, nuclear weapons and this kind of stuff not only could wipe us out, but it disrupts the balance of nature, disrupts the balance of Mother Earth. It also ripples out into space throughout the universe and affects everything. So you've kind of heard the saying as above, so below, or however that goes, and this is what is true. We are all connected. We just have lost our connections that I think a long long time ago many of us knew our connections with plants, knew our connections with the earth. And we've lost that because we've been programmed to be materialistic and a slave to working and working, you know, and working nine to five, and we have forgotten a lot of ways that values that we knew. But we are going to reawaken and realize that these old ways of living no longer service and with our higher consciousness, we're going to expect better things and ask that things change. And it's not something that will happen overnight, but it's starting to happen. I can see it happening already. People are waking up. Now, when someone you feel like is waking up, how do they know that they are? How can someone know that they're able to do this or awakened. Well. First of all, people ask me, how do you know if you've reached the fourth or fifth dimension. Dimensions are not physical places, they are higher consciousness. So when you start realizing and start questioning or looking for answers to things, your mind is already opening up and wanting more information, and you're starting to seek out good information. And you'll start to realize that you do not like listening to the news because it's all negative, okay, you do not like being around negative people. You will find that you'll walk away from these things. They will no longer serve you or interest you. You will find that you are disinterested in wars. You will find that you're disinterested in You'll want to spend more time with family values, things that pertain to your family. You will start sensing, you'll start to want to know who the you who the interview is your inner self view, not the person, not the for me, not the Nancy that the world around me has programmed me to be, but the Nancy, the soule Nancy that made a choice to come to Earth. Who am I? Who? Who? Who is Nancy? What? What is the purpose of Nancy? Being here, and as we all reach higher consciousness, we will start to realize our inner selves, look within and start understanding that, for one, we will understand that we don't need the government to give us disclosure. We will understand we are the disclosure because we will reach higher consciousness and not need someone to tell us, because we'll be intelligent enough to realize, and all the answers will be before us. And you will know because you'll start noticing that you will vibrate on a higher frequency. When you vibrate at a higher frequency, it feels good and it radiates around you and it you'll notice that your family will pick up and start to do the same thing. And it's kind of just like a cold. It's like a virus. It spreads, So being positive and having a high frequency is very contagious and it feels wonderful and it multiplies and spreads. And that's what's gonna happen to humanity, not overnight, but with time. It's just gradual awareness, gradual knowledge, and then you know, answers start to be answered, and then you realize that we've beenn't manipulated for all our lives. The minute we were born, we were giving us as a security number, and you're like ding, ding ding, this isn't right, you know, And all the things start popping up, and these things we already know, but we've had to wait to get to a higher consciousness. And here's what's so funny about this is that all of these plants and things, all the creatures and even our planet, they have already known all these things, and they all of it has just been waiting for us to wake up. Because we are now finding out through scientists and the visions that I was shown, my son and I both were shown, or that trees are living, conscious beings, they communicate. Just because we live in a three D world does not mean that things around us are not alive, are living and conscious and communicated. It just means that in our three D world we're unable to hear or see it. But as we reach higher levels of consciousness, our awareness opens and we will start to pick up on these things. So it's a lot of stuff, but it's a beautiful thing, it really is. But I truly believe that all of us made a decision to be here on Earth at this time. And I truly believe that all of us, especially the ones of us that are doing in podcasts like this. We are on a mission to wake the world up and to put truthful, positive information out there because we have been lied to for so long. We need to know the truths. We need to know our true heritage, We need to know the true history of our planet. We need to know all kinds of things that we have been lied to about. And I think a lot of those answers are going to be answered. Who are the ones that are doing the line though, Like I know, the theory is that's the lower frequency beings, the ones that feed off of the low energy, like the low negativity. Were they like, what exactly is going on? Why are they keeping us in the slave state? Basically, well, there are fractions of humans. There are fractions a lower rambabecks or trestrials, and they're not These extraterrestrials are not demonic, and they are not warlot. But they really do not want humanity to achieve higher consciousness. So they have worked with the black Cats, the elites, and the Ilibanatti Cabal, all these different fractions, and most of it is done because it is a group of really rich people that have had a monopoly on all these say, our corporations and our banking system, our religious system, our pharmaceutical companies are all companies, so they have been sitting on technology for eons. We should have no property, we should have no diseases, we should not be using fossil fuels, we should have free energy. But these people cannot make money off of healthy, intelligent people, so they have purposely kept us dumbed down at a lower consciousness to maintain and control us and manipulate us around like puppets. And basically we have been a slave to a system that we didn't even realize that we were enslave too. But as we wake up, we will realize our air, our water, our food, everything has toxins in it. Are things that we see on television are negative. All these things are done intentionally to keep being separated, to keep us apart. Racism was thrown in there to keep humanity be separated different religions, to keep us separated. So all these things, and this has been going on for a very very long time, because once we reach higher consciousness and we realize that we are all one and we are all connected, and once we're all connected, there is no stop in humanity. And another beautiful thing about this is that the lower rim of extraterrestrials, when they chose to run off and be a rogue group and not part of the collective consciousness of the positive and the interdimensionals, they were no longer part of the collective, so they're on their own. So they will not receive the help or technology from the interdimensionals, so they will never travel interdimensionally. They're kind of locked into into this realm. But we, on the other hand, human beings, we have the potential to become inter dimensional and travel throughout the universes and become a cosmic citizen, and we will be very welcomed. And we also have a lot of things in our DNA that have been purposely dumbed down. For example, our pineal gland is crystallized, and they have done that to us for a very long time. And if you remember, back in the old days, people that had this slight bit of all they could, they were either psychic or they or intuitive. They were considered as demonic and they would hang them or put them on trial because they want to keep they've always wanted to keep humans dumbed down. But we are finally to the point where we're realizing that these things have manipulated us and we're not going to allow that anymore. And these things that our body will start to activate and we will learn we can live longer lives, we can live healthier lives. And what I was told by the interdimensional is that when we were created, everything we ever needed to sustain our lives was placed here on Earth. And what that means is that there's a cure for any disease a human ever gets. We were never meant to have these synthetic drugs our bodies. They were We're not. Those are not for us. What we need is here on our planet. And they're either sitting on the technology. Well I know that they're sitting on the technology. I could say that maybe they didn't find it, but that would I'm pretty darn sure they're sitting on the technology. They have cures for cancer, they have cure for everything most likely, and they but you have to understand the people that are in charge. They don't want human beings to live longer lives. That means more money for governments. That means is they would and yes, they would like to see keep us unhealthy and dying out because the longer we live that they're gonna have to change their whole system. But the way we you know, they've got it kind of like run it and a little like a little cycle now. But we will start living longer lives and healthier lives. So it's going to be interesting and I'm very we should all be proud to be alive because this is the biggest thing that's ever happened to human beings, that has ever happened, and we're part of it. I'm getting a little confused with the interdimensionals and the extraterrestrials. Well, extraterrestrials obviously they're not from here, but interdimensional when you talk with other people, interdimensional just means they're from a different reality, like a different dimension into our worlds, is like a different like they're on level four or on level three the three D world. So how does that work for them to be able to travel through space? Of course, now, dimensions are not physical places. Yeah, you mentioned that there are frequencies, Okay, higher frequencies. So in the world of extraterrestrials and interdimensionals, there is no such thing as time. Everything is happening all in one, all at once. So and if you look at it like you could say, for example, there could be extraterrestrials park right here, the whole craft and everything could park right here in my living room if they want and be to see it, I would, but with my us being in three D, I would not see it unless they wanted me to. So they're not from physical places. So they're just different dimensions, different frequencies, and as we reach higher frequencies are we will be less limited as to what we can see. But they that doesn't mean that they're not from originally a planet. It just may not be a planet in our Solar system. Yeah, because that's it gets confusing when people talk about space and traveling through space and they talk about interdimensional it's like, well, if they're extraterrestrials and they're not from obvious solis to from a different galaxy, those are trillions of miles away. There's all these different galaxies and they're traveling because yes, well there's many, many many galaxies, many many universes, and they travel all over looking for beings that are reaching ascension, and then that's when they step in and help them to ascend. They are a billion years ahead of us in evolution, and they don't want to take over. They don't want to do anything. All they want to do is assist and help us to reach that higher level. That's where it comes back to them. What the ones trying to keep us back from reaching? That is? How do they know about it? You know what I mean? Like, why are they trying to keep us down? Who? They know what our frequent Yeah, they know what our frequency is, and as long as we were at a lower frequency, we were taking advantage of and they were not supposed to do that. The cosmic law says that human beings are here on free will, and they overstep this race or any race that did the so called abductions, they overstep that boundary of humans being here on free will. And a lot of people ask me, why don't they If they can do this, they could do that, why don't they come down here and cure diseases and things? Well, we are human beings are here on free will, and people do not totally understand this. But all of us have soul contracts that we made before we got here, so they cannot overstep a boundary. If you're so contract that you made with creator, which, by the way, they do believe in a creator source. And they all have souls. So if whatever we agreed upon, say we decide how long we're going to be here, we decide certain things about our life, they cannot interfere with those things and go ahead. I say, you mentioned they have souls and everything. Yes, it really depends on who you talk to, because a lot of people think these aliens are demonics, and I don't know. Well, they've never met one. I have. I've been with them face to face, held hands, rubbed their face, they rub mine, and I've touched them. They feel like a dolphin, and they are biological, and they are very loving, very benevolent, very loving. And for me, it's not what they look like. For me, it is the frequency exchange. They are higher frequency than I am. So when I feel their presence my body, I can feel it all over and it's overwhelming, warning loving kind of I don't even know how to explain it. Really, it's almost ephloric feeling, but it's I don't know how to explain it, but it's a different frequency than what we ever have felt before. You don't feel like this, So for me, it's kind of like you have that flight or fight type feeling because your brain doesn't know what to do with this because it's never felt that before. So it's like it's been embedded in our DNA from prehistoric times when everything around us was a predator. So when something new comes around and we don't understand it's you know that you get extremely scared and you either want to fight or you want to run. Basically, yeah, you're the first person I've interviewed that's actually had like posit that have experiences with aliens. Basically, everyone I've talked to has had like traumatic events because of the abductions and everything. Well, I believe that those things happened. I also believed that some of those were instigated even by military along with some extraterrestrials. And when I was living in Australia, I was living up in the mountains, pretty isolated area, and I felt some beings coming, but these were not the three that normally come for me, and they got me and took me to craft and when I woke up, I was on a like a gurney and there were female humans running around, and there were grays running around, and they were very confused, acting very confused. And what it was is they were like saying, send her back, take or back because they realized that I belonged to the inner dimensionals and they better not touch me. So they sent me back and then I woke up and I was just like really confused as to I mean, I remembered it, but it was like what in the world. So I was close to Pine Gap, but not walking distance but by air, and I being on a mountain. I lived up on Mount me which was in Queensland, which is about two and a half hours from Brisbane, and they could have easily got to me by craft or even helicopter or whatever. I don't really know. I don't remember seeing any craft. I just remember it happening in them waking up on an a craft. You mentioned earlier that you think some of them were working with the military. Absolutely, which ones would be? I know that. Okay, I want to clear this up. There are many, many different races of grays. There's over sixty different races or more. Okay, they are different colors, they are different hots, and some have a little different looks in their facial features. So one race out of all these, say sixty three races were the ones that decided to go off on their own and do their own genetic testing and became a renegade race and left the collective consciousness of the rest of all the grace. Then there was like other races, like there were some Nordics, there were some Reptilians, and with them, there's many many different races. There's not just one race of each group. There's many many different ones. And there are some of them are on the side that doesn't they're not demonic, but they don't really want to see humans prosper for whatever reason. So but there's they are very few in number, but they are the ones that did some work with the government. I've heard different stories like well Dulce bases and all these different things, and those would be the ones that did those kind of things, and they traded out technology forgetting to do what they did, but humanity never got to see any of the technology except for whatever they used. As far as like in wars, we can't be the only species that they would do this too, because if you look at it in that consciousness of they're just doing to try to keep humanity down. What's special about humanity that's like a that's our own ego, thinking that we're special. There's nothing special about us. I'll tell you what's special about our planet is our planet itself, our planet and everything on our planet. They love our planet because it is a living, conscious being, and they love the air, the animals, the jungles, the indigenous people, the mammals, the aquatic life. They love everything, and they played a part in the creation of it. So when that's the thing, when we start messing with these things that are innocent bystanders and could stand to be eliminated because of our human egos and because of a few humans that want to play dictator, They're not going to let us destroy our world and our planet because our planet is beautiful and our planet is part of the universe and we're all connected. Everything our moon is connected to our planet. They destroy our planet, there's no telling them what all is goar ripple out from it. If we were completely destroyed it, I can't even imagine what all it would affect. It would affect the whole universe, and they're not going to let that happen. I think we do a pretty good job here. I think they much let Yeah, but they've let the governments and the military know. They've come down here and turned off nuclear power plants, and they have stopped nuclear weapons. They stopped the one that I don't know if you remember, but in Korea they shot North Korea shot off one years ago and they said it was boops, we made a mistake. But actually what happened was is the extraterrestrials destroyed it in mid air. I remember hearing that. Yeah. And also if you look, I've seen a lot of videos over in the war Israel and Iran and all that I see them interacting and shooting missiles down over there too, if you look and find it now, there's a lot of weird stuff that's going on right now that I try not to even pay attention to really because I think it's all distraction. Well, the thing is, with the AI technology the way it is, we all have to be careful about what we believe, you know, because and that's the thing with our technology has gotten so big. Everything in our everything. Our baking systems are broken breaking down, our political you know, our groups are breaking down, our religious groups are breaking down. We have surpassed what our technology can do. So we've got to change our planet and our world is changing and we've got to learn to change with it. And as we reach higher consciousness, all we have to do is allow them to help us and accept the fact we are not alone, and accept some help, and they'll help us to make the right decisions with our technology. Because they explain to me that AI technology is a man made tool. We have to keep it as a man made tool. Do not turn it loose with certain individuals, and do not turn it loose to just run on its own. We created it, we need to stay in power over it, and if we use it right, we can use it to better all of humanity, not just a few. And that's the problem that we've been so manipulated and conned. We don't even realize that these things we we only we we only do what we're told to do. We don't even know what all they're sitting on and what they're privited, and they're getting cares for and they're able to live longer and the rest of us are suffering. I think the AI is already spread so far that it's hard to ring it back in at this point, because if you just look at what you're capable of doing, like it makes music now, it puts singing into the music, it makes photos, it does videos. Like it's so much manipulation that you don't even know what you're seeing anymore or what you're listening to. It's it's I think it's gotten to the point to where it's gonna be hard to actually put it back in the bag at this point as they try to, Oh, I don't think it's going to go back in the bag. I think that as we retire ore consciousness, we're going to realize we made this, we are and control, and we're going to stay in control, and we're going to use it to our advantage. And you have to understand a lot of the information that we get about extraterrestrials, interdimensionals AI, these are all misinformation and purposely done to keep us in fear, keep us separated, because anybody that's in fear, they lose their connection to the rest of the world. Everybody is kind of on their own and on guard. So that is done intentionally. And so until we wake up and realize that we're being manipulated, which we will, we will, but when we do a lot of things are going to change, and you're going to see our lives will be better, and basically we're the stepping stones for future generations. You know, I don't know how long this all will take, but I know that it has to start somewhere, and it needs to start now. It doesn't need to be put off because things are not going to get better at this point. At this point, if it stays escalating like it is, we will wipe ourselves out. So we have to start somewhere. By starting something like this and trying to project it and go further out. I can see like the average person seeing this as like a religion, because if you already look at the religions what we have, they're just going to say, oh, these are the UFO people, these are their Ufology people, these are alien people, this is the religion. They'll believe these people like that's how society's programmed to be. Yeah, they're not going to take it seriously because just like if you look at religions today, a lot of people don't take religions as seriously as they used to. Like obviously older generations do. With like people my age and younger, they're not into the religious type aspects anymore. I consider myself a spiritual person not a religious person. Yeah, and there's a big difference. But trying to explain that to eighty year old mother that's very hard to do. Yeah. No, I come from a very Christian family, so again, speaking of stuff like that is very out there for a lot of them because they believe in their certain things they believe. Yeah, when you talk about stuff like this, like growing up, I was told there's no such thing as aliens, there's no such thing as ghost anything like they're the demons. That's what's programmed into your brain, because i'sow what religion tells you. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of programming. But I think younger generations are going to be more aware of the world around us and it will be less programming. You know. I don't know how if you have children or whatever, but you know your eyes are or more open, and I'm sure you'll want your kids to inform their own opinions about things because our world is changing. Things aren't like they used to be twenty thirty years ago. Our world is changing and it's changing very fast now, just even one of the last five to ten years. It's a lot different than what it used to be. Yeah, but i'd say you mentioned twenty twenty. I feel like twenty twenty is a turning point for a lot of things. And I don't necessarily know if it's the good or the bad side of it. But twenty twenty was like the Year of the Beast, is what they call. Yeah, it was COVID and all that. Yeah. Well, some as I've reached higher levels of consciousness and things, I realized that everything that we've been through was done to teach us something. Being here on earth is an experience we're here to learn, and for whatever reason we had to learn. I didn't like being in quarantine at all, and I don't know if anything good became of it at all, But I don't know, But I know that we have to learn to forgive certain things and move on and learn from our mistakes and to learn from the past and just learn not to make the same ones again. And that's been the problem, is that for our governments and things. You know, we continuously continue to have wars and things, but we have to reach a point to where we realized there's nothing good about a war and it doesn't serve us in any good way at all. It serves their purpose to keep us all divided. Yeah, angry and scared and everything else. Is what I said. I don't want to be that person. But basically that's what they want, Like, yeah, they want to keep everyone against each other. They want to find reasons for people to not get along. They want to find people have negativity. And that's what I've been saying forever is basically everyone, well who's they? Who's the elusive They? Well, the people that are the puppet masters, the ones that pull the strings elated. Yeah, I don't know their official names. Like I can go out there and say who it is, well, you know, and it's really and truly we don't know who's really running our government. It's not the officials that are in there. They're being plate light puppets, you know. Yeah, there's definitely a part of government we don't know. You know. So anyone that you see on the television, their presidential they're not the real shot callers. I mean, they're just the face that gets put out there for the everyone else to see. They're the puppet. But there's always someone pulling the strings of the pop That's true. Yeah, I wish a lot of people would see it that way, but no one wants to. They always want to fight about which side they want to be on. If you remember, wasn't it Osenhower was the first president to talk about a dark government and the military. There was like fractions of government and military that we all need to be careful because I think he realized he had no control over I think he started realizing there was like secret programs and things of that nature, and he wanted He mentioned something about it, and then going down the rabbit hole JFK. He supposedly was wanting to abolish certain alphabet agencies and that he mysteriously was shot. So yeah, that's a shame, so, you know, and I think that's one reason why they don't really want to do disclosure. I think they would love for the James Webb telescope to find something, because then that would take it off of their kurtail, the coketail, so to speak. If the James Web found something, it would be millions old, billions of miles away, and you know, people would be comfortable with that. Know, even are my mother and daddy, you know, in their eighties and stuff. They would, you know, because it's not like it's right here. If they you know, to know, that there's life, but it's so far away, you know. I still don't think they would believe it, though. I think a lot of people would say it's not true, because that's possible. Yeah, there's a lot of people that don't believe in NASA. Yeah that's true. Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of one of the people that don't necessarily believe everything NASA says either, because again, I don't believe a lot of the stuff that comes out about what we've done and what they're doing. They're definitely not truthful about things, that's for sure, but you know, and they're funded by the government, So there you go. That's why I said I don't think the official stories that you hear are always the accurate ones. Yeah, Well, is there anything else you'd like to discuss or you think you've kind of covered a lot of what you want to talk about? Is there anything you want to ask me already I've kind of asked everything I kind of thought would popped in my head, like, there's nothing really, it's you're the third or fourth person almost in a row that we've talked about this on my interviews, So okay, I've kind of talked about this last night I talked about the other night, like for some reason, like all these interviews got lined up and they're almost the same hypertopic. So it's kind of yeah, repetitions. Yeah, I don't want to say repetition, but it's almost like the it's odd to me that they're all popped up in the same sequence, I guess. I will say this also that a lot of people that I know. Travis Walton, they made a movie about him, Fired in the Sky, and I met him, and when they made that movie, he signed over rights to it, and they dramatized that and made it very fearful because they wanted to sell box seats. And at the time, of course, he did not care and he you know, had a hard time dealing with it. That part was true. But as he's gotten older, he will tell you that they saved the extraterrestrials saved his life. They could have left him there in the middle of the woods and he would have died because he had radiation poisoning. But they saved his life, took him all craft, saved his life, and then dropped it back off. And they dropped him off in a public area where he could be found, not back in the woods where they picked him up. So you know, you know, he's totally changed with Ley Streber, you know it. You know, his movie Communion was pretty scary too, and again that was to sell seats and stuff. And from what he says now, And it's funny as you mature and get older and you rethink things and you kind of like piece impact things together. And that's what I've done, is you know, kind of under understand it all and it makes more sense. He doesn't see it as a horrible thing anymore either, So I don't know. So a lot of times I think when people talk about having a bad experience, yes it was a bad experience to them, but a lot of it may have had to do with their state of mind and you know, their perception of what was happening at the time. You know, I've actually wanted to reach out to both of those you mentioned. I've been trying to figure out a way to reach out to Travis and I know Whitley has his own website. I was going to send the message to ive never gotten around to doing it. Well, you should do that. Yeah. No, Fire in the Sky came out when I was a kid, and it kind of It didn't scare me, but it definitely put that fear into you because of the alien abductions or whatever like it. It almost like you said it so dramaticized that, Oh yeah, it made it like a scary movie, especially when you're like they came out in like ninety one. I was, yeah, that the old begin on craft and waking up in that mesh like thing, and then and then they're showing that thing coming down to your eye. I mean, all that stuff. Nothing like that happens. And there is no such thing as probing. I didn't figure there was in the sense of what people say. Anyone that says they've ever been an alien came in and they probed them or whatever. I've even made this reference as far as like I think if people really believe that, I think they're they're brand's covering up something else traumatic that happened. Oh yeah, it's a long way to travel, you know, it's a very long waist to travel just to look up somebody's But you know, I never under they're so far advanced, but they have to come here and do a rectal exam. Doesn't make any sense to me now, But I do know this, and I've experienced this. They actually what they can't overstep the boundary of humans being here on we will. But I know for a fact that if they can, they will help people, and they f cure things, and they've worked on my kidneys several things that they've done on me throughout my life and stuff. You know, what about not thinner rebel like what about the ones that say they've had their stolen babies from like hybrid babies, like they've been impregnated and they've taken the babies from them or whatever. That's been a big topic here lately I've been here. Yeah, I know that they truly believe that that's what happened to them. And I do know that it could be that those all of that race. Usually when there's each race has a pacific function that they do. So in that case, I would say that every one of those grace were genetic scientists, so their agenda was genetic research. So for what reason, I don't know, you know, but I do know that they're not trying to repopulate their population. It's not because of that because there's so many different races. You know, people don't realize that there's not just one so there's so much misinformation. But you know, I do know this, if they did create a hybrid, a hybrid would never make it down here on Earth. Never. But and I could see where they would want it to have interactions with that mother periodically so that it can get that bonding feeling because you know, it would be hard for that would be awful hard for a hybrid to have human have extraterrestrial because they don't have the emotions and stuff that we have. So for you know, for me, whenever I would get upset or very very anxiety or whatever, they would simply take their hand and touch my forehead and put me in a sedated type state. Without the sedation, they would just like put me in a relaxed, calm functional like a walk and move and remember. But my memories when I would come back would be fragmented. It wouldn't be a full conscious memory. It was kind of like walking around like a zombie or something. Now, Yeah, and they do that to a lot of people. And you've heard people talk about sleek paralysis. I've had them do that to meet before too, so and they have the reasons for that because they're not going to sit there and fight with us, and humans will fight back. Now, you know, if Iver woke up and in the middle of something, I'm swinging all the munch of well, they probably won't let you move because they're telepathic. They already know what you're think. Yeah. I had a dream a while back, and I've made a reference to the It wasn't a dream, but they were taking my son. There were a little strange looking pink humanoid figures and he was screaming and I was after him, and I was punching and I was kicking, and one of them had a light on the end of their I don't know what it was, but they went up in my nostril. And the next morn I woke up and I had blood on my nostril. Yeah. I was like, was it a dream because of the odd coincidents that I had crusty blood on my same nostril. Yeah. But anything that's trying to take anything that's trying to take my son, I don't care if it's for good or Yeah, I'm coming after my kid. Yeah, yeah, you don't, I tell you. I think people should listen to what their children have to say, because a lot of people just miss things like this. And you should at least listen, you know, listen to what they say, you know, would be very important. Yeah. I definitely try and listen to what my kids are telling me. That's it just because not from what I do and what I talk to with other people is maybe a lot more open minded because I've always been a skeptic up until years ago. And the more and more I do this show, the more and more I want to believe. So it's like, I'm definitely trying to be more receptive to a lot of things. So some of the things that they talk about that's a kid's imagination, it might not always be. There might be more to it. So, yeah, there's a lot of crazy stuff out there, so you have to use discernment for sure. Yeah, it's good to have an open mind and listen and you know, be aware that sometimes things happen to people that it's just hard to understand, you know, it really is. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Like I said, this whole show is just to give a platform for people with experiences to come on here and share their experiences. I'm not here to prove or disprove anyone because I'm not I'm not there. I don't know what's going on. I mean, I can't say something yes, yeah, wrong because I didn't witness it. Yeah, but I think we can probably wrap this one up. So I appreciate you coming on here talking. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. Not a problem. If anyone wants to get ahold of you, do you have a place for them to reach out to you? Yes, I do. I have a website, Time for Disclosure dot com. And also my Facebook group is Time for Disclosure slash. We have never been along slash. We are the disclosure So yeah, and I've belonged to a lot of Facebook groups and they're all great. They're all you know, kind of work together, and we're all trying to work towards disclosure and getting the truth out there for anyone interested. I'll have that in the show notes for you. So I got to just click on let's should take you right there. Okay, sounds great. I appreciate that. Yeah, not a problem. Well, Nancy come on here and talking to me tonight. It's been a pleasure. Thank you. You have a good night, and that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of tenfoiltal dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. Thank you all for joining us on this journey, and until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown. 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