Ep. 102: Sasquatch - Evidence of an Enigma

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to another new episode of Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Ryan. Tonight's episode, we're gonna be joined by my guest, Carter Buchard. I kind of got connected with Carter here recently about some Sasquatch stuff. He's written a few books and had some experiences. Thought he'd be a great guest to have on here. 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To be a horrow so and I consulted on two of the Finding Bigfoot TV shows, one in Kansas, one in Missouri, and uh I I got into this. I started leading expeditions. In the very first one I led, I watched a sasquatch just disappear in front of me, right in front of my eyes at night. I was on the thermal. I watched it. It didn't know we were there. We were sitting in the forest quiet, waiting for some lost campers of ours, lost lost expedition goers. And I was just scanning the woods with my camera, my thermal camera, not recording, just scanning looking for the heat signature of these people that were lost. And I was going, oh, my gosh, I think they're here. I see I see a big heat signature coming around the corner. Well it wasn't them, there was a sasquatch. And it took one step and then when I realized there we were there, it took the second step and it just disappeared. It vanished like a flashbulb in front of my eyes. It just exploded. In fact, I could barely see. It was like a flash bulb went off. It was just gone. It just vanished. So at that point I decided, I am going to resign from the ape only club and I'm going to join the paranormal and quantum sides because the factor I saw some thing I could not dispel. Yeah, it's been that way ever since. There is a lot of weird stuff when it comes to sasquatch. Like before, I used to think the same thing that it was just kind of an unknown primate. But then if you start going down the rabbit hole of the WU side of it, with all the strange things that happened with at the disappearing the orbs, all sorts of stuff like that, there's a lot of strangeness that goes along with sasquatch. Yeah, and most of my work has been with habituation families. So they've got the sasquatch living on their property and they're interacting with them anywhere from a year to up to twenty plus years. I'm monitoring seven families right now, and they keep me updated. And there's orbs UFOs language disappearing and reappearing. I mean, anything you can come up with. And I've vetted these people. I mean, you know, I've put my reputation on the line as far as believing some of them almost blindly. But yeah, when you talk to somebody, you get to know them, you just know. And the thing is with my witnesses, none of them want anything from it. They just want to be able to tell their story what's going on. I hear from some of them regularly, two or three times. They'll update me, so uh. And that being said, they're all telling the same stories, but they don't know each other. They you know, I'm not just finding all the nuts in the United States, you know what I mean. I mean, I'm talking to the same rational people that don't want their names used. All the names in my books are fictitious. All the locations of fictitious are just not mentioned at all because where it is and who it is matters, not, it's just the a vent that these families are interacting with Sasquatch families. Yeah, and it's it's it's just mind boggling. And if you've never been around it, never heard about it, it it sounds like science fiction, but it's not. You know, I've experienced I go to the properties and sit with them, and I've heard my name called out by the Sasquatch in my exact voice. You know, a lot of these witnesses here, the Asquatch, mostly women, they're calling their names while the husband's at work. He's calling their name in his voice. And so several times they've got on the phone and call their husbands, where are you? What are you doing? You're messing with me? Where are you? I thought you were a work. What are you talking about? Well, you just called my name. I'm outside in the back garden. No, I'm at work. What are you talking about? And it's happens regularly as to the point where it's almost it's almost comical, because you know, they know when they hear their husbands their wife's boys out in the woods during the day when they should be at work, they're not there. It's a sasquatch talking to them, messing with them. You know, they do have senses of emer you know. But you know, I've had my own experiences with them on paranormal and quantum levels, and it's just it's quite exhilarating and it takes you to a whole other level of believability. Can I actually believe this? Am I actually experiencing this? Is this really happening? Or am I hallucinating? Is some kind of thought being or vision been put in my head? So I think this is happening, but it's really not. The you run the gamut of all that stuff. But you know, I've I've got so many people that have had so many experiences with them and on a daily basis. So that's where all my books have really come from, you know, is some of my BFO are O reports are in these books, and I've become friends with these people. This was the really strange part of this is that when I would call the witnesses after they they'd fill out a report on the BFRO website and you can go on there and assign yourself any report you want. I call them and we start talking, and about halfway through the conversation. They would say, now I want to tell you something you probably aren't gonna believe. I've said, well, you've just been talking to me about your sighting of a sashquatch or creature that doesn't exist according to many, and you're gonna tell me something now I'm not gonna believe or bring it on. I want to hear it, you know. And this is when they get into the stuff that they don't want to tell their husband's wi lives, friends, coworkers because they're ridiculed. And this is the stuff where it gets into the paranoral the quantum effects aside the sci fi part of it, where they can change their vibrational frequency and they will just disappear. They will walk into a tree and not come out the other side. They hear voices, they hear their names called, They hear chatter, you know. You know, if you're familiar with Ron mooreheads, see of sounds. They're doing the samurai chatter there, or course don't want that weird samurai chatter. And people don't know how to take that when they hear it, and they think they're getting ranked. I said, no, this is their chatter. I often direct them to go buy one of his CDs in a little book, because have you heard all of that before? Listen to any of that. I've listened to it before. You Yeah, it's it's gibberish, but it's it's a language. You know. I know Scott Nelson is linguist, and you know, I know Ron he did a forward commentary in my first book, and so I got to know them, and you know, and he doesn't know what language it is, but it is a spoken language because that has the breathing patterns and the hawsey and the annunciation, and there's a back and forth and they are talking to one another, into three of them at talking at the same time. So they do have a language. They do communicate. They have skill sets that we can only imagine. We may have had them long ago before we got lazy invented things to do things for ourselves. But that's been the inspiration from my books mostly is the events that people have shared. I've had a couple of, you know, incredible sightings and or communications, let's say, and I can go into one of those if you like, Yeah, go for it, Okay. The expedition I led in Illinois twenty nineteen, I went down there, and this was right before COVID and COVID was kind of warming up and it was hitting in some places, but we haven't shut the country down yet. Well, it was getting to be that way, and they the person who was going to lead this expedition bailed out at the last minute, and so I got a call, Hey, would you want to take over this expedition in Illinois because I'm in Missouri, so I'm not that far three hundred miles. I said, well, sure, Well, there was only four people left because the guy that was going to do it, he canceled at the last minute, and a lot of people said, well I don't want to do this, and who's going to do Well, we don't know. We're going to try to find somebody. So virtually everybody canceled except four people, and so myself my partner who lives in Illinois, Harold Benny, and we met these four people and we took them out. Now, when I was scouting for the area, I went to Murphysboro, Illinois, and I was typically when I scout for a location on an expedition, I'll go to the limit of mom and pop, family restaurant, family restaurant, in the middle of town. They know everybody and they know all the strangers that come into town. And so I went in there and I said, hey, I'm leading an expedition for sasquatch. You know, Murphy's Burg is very famous for them. So there was not a lot of shock at all when I mentioned that. And I said, well, where is a really good place to look? And they said, well, I tell you a place you don't want to go, and this is a place nobody in town will go anywhere near it after dark. Period into conversation, you don't want to go here, I said, oh, really, where's that? Well, it's a trail of tears. It's down there by the water plant. I said, well, that's where I'm going, because if you tell me I can't go there, I don't want to go there. That's an invitation. Yeah, so you know. And the funniest thing was is that while I was in the restaurant, I got introduced to a guy who knew, a gentleman who thought he was having sasquatch problems on his property. This is kind of a detour for what I was going to tell you, but this is interesting. That was my first experience into a dog man encounter, which is what it turned out to be. I went and met the gentleman and his wife. They're deeply religious folks that lived out in the middle of nowhere near Murphysboro, and their daughter had taken a picture. I can't show it to you, but it's a dog man. It had been tearing up this tree outside the daughter's bedroom window at night. That just ran tearing up this tree for some reason. It was assaulting the tree, it was clawing it to pieces, it was pulling branches off. It did this day after day for weeks, and it was just a strange thing. So she decided, I'm going to get a picture. So she goes outside when this noise and activity starts up, and she reaches up to take the photo and the creature disappears, and then it reappears. When it appears, it got its arm caught in her camera strap and jerked the camera just a little bit. I ended up with a dog man photo that she had taken, and they thought that was evil, and they threw the camera in a drawer and said, we're not even gonna mess with this. We're not even going to do it. So this is a story I got when I got there, the girl had moved out of the house, like within a month after that. She was totally panic, moved out, never came back. So that was my first time when I thought I was going to be in investigating a sasquatch event. It was a dog man and the photo is it's marginal. What I had to do is take a picture of a picture. Because they're not technically inclined. They threw the camera away and they eventually found it and they got the film development and it was actually film on a role, but they didn't have an s D cart or anything like that. So what I ended up was making a picture of the picture they had in the front seat of my car, laid it on my jeep, and I took a picture of a picture. So it's kind of shaky as far as I but it was. You could definitely see it's got a head, shoulders, arms, the face is very elongated, and it's still taking shape. It still morphing into the solid shape it was getting into. So that was my first adventure there in Murphysboro. So anyway, we go down to the Trail of Tears. This is where this place was, the Trail of Tears down there a couple of miles from the Mississippi River. Now, ninety four Native Americans die. They froze to death in this one area that we were going to, and that was where all the lore came from because people would go there during the day or in the evening trying to camp and there would be a lot of sounds, a lot of noises, a lot of you know, cracking and stitch braking and rots being thrown and stuff like that spoke to everybody, so people just quit going out there at night. But it was perfect for the expedition because it was incredible activity. No, we didn't see anything, but we heard them and they were throwing little sticks and pebbles at us as we walked down this trail. Now, my friend Harold, he'd had a couple of strokes, he's had cancer, so he couldn't go all the way down this very nasty ravine, so he stayed in his truck in the parking lot while I took the four people down this ravine because this is where everybody said, you don't want to go, so that's where we went. So we go down there, we have all the activity. We ended up casting four or five really nice footprints. There was a lot of activity. We just never saw anything. You could hear them uffing and puffing and grunting, but they were up above us, about twenty feet up this really high end bank, because we were down this rut kind of a raviging kind of thing that went downhill about one hundred yards. And so we went there and we stopped at a log, this this big log that was kind of blocking the trail. We stopped there. Number one. It was just getting late, and I had a woman there who was somewhat panicking, and I didn't want to have her running off into the woods at eleven and twelve o'clock at night and trying to find her, you know. So we went back that night, but we had a great, great activity and the vibe was really awesome. So we go back and the next night was a Saturday night, and that was the first day of hunting season, and I went down there during the day to check our casts from the prince. We'd cash. We lets it there overnight so they get dry and harden, and I see eyes up in the trees with their hunting blinds. I say, well, we're not going to have any action tonight because they're gonna be shooting guns all day and that's going to run everything off. And that's exactly what happened. We got there that night and nothing happened, not surprising, but they'd already had a great time and they were delirious with joy. They had a great time. I was a great expedition, really, and so everybody went home. Well, I got home, I called Harold. I said, you know, I really liked that area. I want to go back next year, same day in time that we were there this year, and see it was still had the same vibe. And he said that that's a good idea. So and then the next year, twenty twenty twenty, COVID had hit, so everything was shut down. The little family restaurant I used to go into it was closed. Everything, you know, I was we couldn't do anything. It's it's horrible. But I went and met Harold. We came down our old campsite, and then we drove to the location of the expedition and we walked down this raviat Now he couldn't make it all the way, but he made it further than he did the year before, so that was a positive step. He's healing up from all these illnesses. So when I get down to the log where we all stopped, because it was just a good stopping point. All this log was five rocks. On one end of the log, a long pointy rock. I wish I could show it to you, but it's a long pointy rock, which represented me. I'm the expedition leader, and there's four rocks behind me. If the other end of the log was around chunky rock, fat rock, and that represented Harold, who had been there, but he wasn't there. In other words, he had still They were recognizing they knew who I was, and they were already waiting for us. They had already put the rock out as a welcome, telling me, hey, you came back. And Harold's rock was at the other end because he was there, but he wasn't there because he stayed in his truck and the night after that he stayed at camp. So I'm looking at this and I'm suddenly going, oh my god, that's that's me and the four expedition goers. On the other side, it's Harold who was there but wasn't there. They were signifying that they knew who I was in my expedition. They left these rocks as a gift, and nobody had been down there because it's it's really treacherous, nobody goes there, so I mean it was it was. I don't believe in coincidences in my field of endeavor, so this meant I had made contact. We had made contact, and so I'm freaking out. I would ecstantic, and I called Harold on the phone and tell him, and then I call my wife because I'm about to head out, and I called her and told her. Because I was all excited, I can hardly even talk. And now I was telling her what happened, and she goes, when did this happen? I said, well, it had to have been like last night sometime, because we got there the night before, but we didn't go down there because it was too dark and nasty and nobody was out, so we went back the next morning. So she said, well, it would have to have been an after seven or eight o'clock, as it gets dark at five five thirty because it's winter, it's October. She goes, well, you're not going to believe this, but last night, eight thirty, I'm getting ready for bed and a blue orb comes into my bedroom, our bedroom. It flies around the room a couple of times. This is our bedroom. She sees it in live person. She sees it. It's flying around and flying around her. She's watching this flame fry around her and then it makes two circles in the room, it flies into the bathroom and it's gone. And to me, that is the Sasquatch telling me, I know you, we know you, we know where you live. You're one of us I've made I'm one of the cool guys now, you know. It was one of those kinds of things where they had given me a sign and they gave her sign. Now that's three hundred and twenty five miles away, but they're doing all this and that's never happened before, you know. And not only did she see it physically, but she also saw as a reflection in our mirrors on our dresser. So that was a surefire sign that I had made contact and a good contact. It was just it was the most incredible feeling. You know, you kind of have to be there for that kind of event, but it was. It was awesome. And so later six eight months later, my wife and I don't sleep real well, so we meditate, you know, listen to you know, meditation music and stuff like that so we can drift off to sleep. Well, I start getting these visions of I'm going down this ravine just like I was going down my ravine. I'm going down the ravine and everything is flying by me, much faster than I'm actually moving. But I'm seeing the sasquatch in the forest and they're just laying around, like laying on the logs, laying on the ground. The kids are running around. They're juvenile, kids are running around playing, They're sticking sticks in the ground, they're poking for mice and bugs and stuff like that. It's just a day in the life. And I'm looking at this. I'm you know that looks really familiar. Is that Missouri or Illinois? And they just said to me, Hole, this is whole And that's all I really needed to hear. I mean, that's that's all they wanted to tell me. So I was being shown where they lived. I was being shown a day in the life. And I've I've had this vision probably four or five times. It just comes to random periods of time, whenever there's no event that makes it happen or not. It just every now and then they'll contact me so that was that was an event that got me on the path of full blown We're not going to this dumb ape in the woods physically that has no other skill sets. I'm full blown baptized now that this is really really happening to me. So I get back and talking to the wife and I'm in here working on my books and my reports, and you know, I've got all these photos and videos and stuff. And she kind of walks by the desk and he goes, well, I'm glad you have a little hobby to make you happy there, honey. I'm you know, just you know, kind of patronizing me, kind of not and I said, no, you know, she kind of pat me on the head. It just you know, like a husband and wife. But there should just mess up with me. But you know, it still get you a little bit, you know, trying to get under my skin. And so I said, you know what, why don't we go to one of my research areas. I want to take you camping, and I want to take you to an area that I have a lot of activity. And you know, when you say something like that, nothing happens. You know, I'll show you. And so you get there, of course, nothing happens, you know. Well, so this area that I research a lot and had a lot of activity is in Ellington, Missouri. I won't give the exact area, but it's very very squatchy. It's it's got a lot of activity there. And so coincidentally, the first time I led that expedition and that Sasquatch disappeared, that was my research area. That became my research area. I've been there a dozen times and probably ninety percent of the time I see or feel or hear or all three something there because that's their living they live there. I know they live there, I feel it, I know it, and so this is their home. So and again this is another the ravine, but you can't drive down there. The Missouri Department of Conversation Conservation got tired of rescuing people on their three wheelers and four wheelers, so they barricaded it off with a gate. So I had to back my car up to the gate. We got out, we left it there, and we're walking down this long Revin that's about one hundred yards to where I want to get, which is the curve. Well that Sashquatch walked in and realized we were there in advantage, so that's where I was going to take her. Well after about twenty yards, she's going, Okay, I'm done. I'm creeped out. I don't know what's going on here. I'm done. I'm creeped out. I don't know what's going on here, but I believe you. Everything's good. I want to go back to the car. So we're not going to the car. Everything's fine. What you're feeling is the hebgb's where in they're living room. Where where you're feeling their presence, their vibration. You're feeling it, and she says, well, I don't know what it is, but I don't like it. I need to get out of here. I said, look, the car is just right up here. I shine the light where I parked my car. My car was not there. I said, where'd my car go? And she's going, what do you mean you're shining your light on it? I'm looking where my car should be parked right behind this big metal gate, and it's not there. I said, we're much more of my car. She said, what do you do? You messing with me? She was just we started kind of squawking at each other because she thought I was messing with her, And so I said, look, we're going down here to the bottom of the ravine and we'll stop there. And I shine the light down there, and there's my car where it cannot possibly be. There's my car and it's backed in like I had backed it in originally where I really it first parked it. So she's going, you're what do you mean there's nothing there, there's no car there. What are you doing? You're messing with me? Said, no, I'm not my car. How'd my car get down there that? I'm all confused. I shined my light back up to the top where it should have been. It's not there. She's going, Okay, I'm done, give me the keys. I said, I'm not giving you the keys. You're staying here. You know, you're staying with me. So we go back and forth through this for about five ten minutes, and I finally realized the Sasquatch are jacking with me. They're showing mister smarty pants researcher how we work. And they were showing me what they could do make me see something that wasn't there, make me not see something that should be there. And this last is for about ten or twelve minutes, and then finally I said, I've shined my light back up where the car should be, and there was So for ten twelve minutes, they had me seeing something thing that could not possibly be because there's no way to get my vehicle, my SUV down, It's just impossible. It's just I was being made to see something. They were putting. It was either mental pal lepathy or just putting an image in my head. It could have been using infrasound. It made me hallucinate. I don't know really how they did it, but it was an eye opening event because it tells me they do have these skills. And they were showing it to me in front of my wife, who did not see it because she was seeing a car where it always was that I was seeing where it couldn't have been. So I was hallucinating something. She was seeing it where it always was and thought I was going nuts or I was messing with her. Just mind boggling, but they can do that. They did that, and so we drove back to the other camps we were camping, and we we talked about her all night and she was she was flabbergasted, and she realized I wasn't messing with her that I truly was seeing my car somewhere where it was not and where it was it was gone. And so she knew I was being sincere because I was getting agitated, you know, trying to figure out how this was happening. That was my first real experience with telepathy of any kind, and it was awesome. I mean, it was just it was fantastic. And you know, if you haven't experienced that or seeing it, it's hard to grasp I get it, you know, but it's a real thing, you know. And you know, many of the witnesses that I have that are all my books have seen similar things on their properties. You know. They all vary from property to property. You know. I've got them in Washington State, Arkansas, Illoy, Missouri, uh, Oklahoma, two in our two families in Arkansas. But there the people are living in harmony with the Sasquatch on their property, and it's just, uh, it's a fascinating story. Are you out of Indiana, Yeah, I'm from Indiana. Yeah. Yeah. Is that where you're at now or yeah? Yeah, I'm here in north central Indiana. Yeah. Uh, I just got a story. I talked to this guy even last night Lake Monroe, you know where that's a I've heard of it. I'm not exactly sure. Yeah, Lake Monroe, Uh, Indiana. It's army. It's Army Corps of Engineerland. But they just moved in this this family, it's a it's a it's a dude is young fiance and and their six month old baby. They just moved into a property and almost immediately the sasquatch were banging on their walls, peeping in their windows, banging on the outside of the house, filling rocks and sticks, howling, grunning, you know, all kinds of stuff. They had no idea about sasquatch. They just had zero idea about them at all. They'd heard of them, but were not experienced and really weren't even sure they existed. So they get a call, they call me. I get a call from them, and they got my number from a guy I do a lot of shows with, and I talked to him, and turns out this house had been abandoned for about twenty years and had been empty, and the Sasquatch took it over as theirs. You know, they started living on all the property, not in the house, but all the property. Around it, living under the deck because you could see nesting areas down there and all that kind of stuff. And they had no idea. I mean, they just had zero idea. Well, it had been empty for twenty years, and so the humans are now the introvopers. They're taking over a piece of property if the sashquatch decided was theirs because the humans are gone. And so, but they moved into there, they were totally reaped out, totally flipped out. And so I called this guy and I have to He's on the ceiling. He's like hanging all the ceiling in his living room. He's totally freaked because they're walking around the house. He's hearing them, he's seeing them. He's got some pretty good pictures of them. Considering that, he's you know, scared to death. But they can't decide if they want to live with that or move. And that's the other end of the habituation thing. Is a lot of people when they discovered that these creatures are living all are near their property, they don't want to They don't want them there. And if they're not going to leave, we are. And so that's where they're at. Like right now, this has only been going on for the last week. It might be a dog man out there. If he sent me a photo. It really really really looks like an upright dog. I mean, it's just it's fairly clear. It looks more like a bare bearish snout. But it's it's got black ears, a pale grayish brownish face, and a black body. It's a weird coloration, very very strange coloration. So and I've told them, if you want this to stop, get some motion lights, get you some trail cameras. You need to go outside and talk to them, call them, don't scream, and just say listen, you're scary my family. I need you to stop coming over and banging on the house and looking in the windows. You're frightening my my newborn child and my wife and my fiance. So could you all please stop? And that actually stopped most of it right there. It just ceased. And then you know, in talking to him, he had had it, bought some motion lights, security lights, and he just hadn't put him up. Well now he put him up. So now the security lights are on and you can he can still see the sasquatch walking around the property at night, but they are staying just outside of the light when it hits the ground. They're staying just passed where the light is hitting from the side of the house, so they won't they won't, they won't go to the house now, so that problem was solved. So now he's trying to determine if he wants to be uh habituation person because I went through that with him in great to jail, or does he just want to pack up and move and that's their decision to make. They're fascinated and they're scared to death at the same time. It's kind of a conundrum. But you know, I've been through that before, where the people just don't know if they really want to put up with this. That area that you mentioned, I actually just looked it up. It's not too far from Nashville, Indiana, which is actually where the first annual Bigfoot conference is going to be at in September. Oh really, Yeah, the Indiana Bigfoot Research Organization is putting it on September twentie right, I think it's a twenty seventh, twenty sixth, twenty seventh, I got it right here, Yeah, twenty seventh and twenty eighth. I'm actually going to be there for vendoring. I' might have a booth and stuff set up with my podcast RAG. But cool that I looked up Monroe County. It's literally right in same area Bloomington, Nashville, Brown County. It's all the same. It's all wooded, it's all very high activity stuff that goes on there. So I'm not surprised that they have some sort of He had no idea what he moved in. Yeah, it's very big hot spot in this area. Yeah, well, he he had no idea, and so you know, he goes from he's hanging from the chandelier to he's like at peace with it, and then he freaks out again because he thinks he's being stock. He thinks they're going to go come eat him in the middle of the night. And then he's the next day he's like, Okay, I believe because I talk him down. He seems to understand it. But the first time in his fiance or the kid freaks out that he's all up in arms, and I understand that you're gonna protect your family. He doesn't know that they will harm him. He doesn't know that from he has no experience. But yeah, he said that it's a Corps of Engineer League. He's on about three acres and there's several hundred acres of heavy, heavy headache woods. I mean they are so tight you can't even walk through it. That's what he said. Yeah, and so, but they're structures. He's seen some structures. You know. I've sent him a couple of my books to help educate him a little bit about how to deal with them or what you're gonna expect, what you see, what you won't see. And so he's seeing structures, they're still interested. Well, you know, the Sasquatch they have their own families just like we do, and they have kids and wives or mates, and so they're fascinated with women and children, especially because the women of the lifegivers and the nurturers, and so they're used. They love watching the interaction because they have their own kids and their own families, and it's just it's something that fascinates them because I've got so many reports of women and children out playing in the art hard well. Hobbies are work, and the Sasquatch are kind of picking behind trees, from behind trees, looking at them watching them play. You know, sometimes a ball will go into the woods and a ball gets thrown back out of the woods into the backyard of where the kids through it by accident. Mystery ball returned. You know, no charge, you know, Sasquatch is the service they provide, I guess, you know, but so but it's the interaction of all of these humans in Sasquatch, and it's done mostly peacefully. You know. He asked me, what about guns? I said, if you're hunting wastefully, if you're just shooting at animals to kill them, they don't like that. If you're shooting at a deer just to cut the head off to get the rack, and you leave the body there to rot and the food goes to waste, they don't like that. You know. They're trying to get you to show a love and respect for your fellow man and take care of the planet and take care of your woods and where you live. And that's the kind of families that they're attracted to. So that's the gist of the habituation thing. And there's so many stories, you know, Like I said, I've sat all the one family that's been there over twenty years interacting with these beings. And I called out one night I was sitting on the port. This is what they do for Friday night. Instead of going to Red Box and getting a movie and some popcorn, They grit some popcorn, six pack of beer, putting a cooler sent on the front porch, and they talk and play with the Sasquatch back and forth over about a twenty five yard area. Well, they hear them, and they'll be throwing stuff back and forth at each other and calling out and then having the calls returned in the exact voice that it was called out in the first place. They mimic anything and everything. And so I've sat there with them. These people welcome me into their homes and let me experience what they're experiencing. And if I had, you know, I probably believe it anyway. But had I uh not experienced it and heard it, heard my own voice coming from out of the woods, uh spoken by a Sasquatch, you wouldn't believe it. They can They can mimic anything. They can mimic automobiles, owls, you know, dogs, barking cars, you name it, owl anything. They can mimic anything. Uh, cars driving down a crunchy road, the pea gravel crunching under the tires, they've mimicked that a car door slamming, They've mimiced that a car starting and stopping, they've mimiced that. It's it's an amazing display. I experienced a bunch of that stuff up in Iowa on a private expedition. They can mimic everything like that. And you said they had the ability to make you not see where your vehicle was. What art like to get down to the nitty gritty of it, like, what type of creatures could possibly have this capabilities? Obviously we said before they have some sort of other worldly elements to them. But a lot of people like to throw out that biblical term of nephelum because of the stuff that they can do. And I don't want to say that one way or the other because I don't necessarily subscribe to any of that. But yeah, I don't either. You know, it is strange though, Yeah, it is. It is. It is very strange and it's very star trek and other worldly. But uh, there's a book out by Lloyd Hyge. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. No, I'm not familiar. Yeah, eyd He's got a book out called Everything You Know Is Raw. It is theoretical, but it's been written down in history. The things I'm about to tell you that's around this book. So it's called Everything you Know Is Wrong. And he's got another book, a follow up book. It's called Everything you Know is Still Wrong. So in it he describes the Onunaki from the tenth planet, hundreds of thousands of years ago, they were losing This is the story, and this is in the Samerian scrolls, those gold scrolls that are made. I don't know if you've heard of them, but they they've got these little aches. This shoo's like a little chicken scratches. But it's a story that the Samerian's told of the Onanaki coming from the tenth planet, which is Nabiru. They were losing their atmosphere and they needed to come to Earth to mine gold, especially gold dust, for some reason. That is, and it's known now and scientifically it's proven that they use it to uh all of the holes that may appear in the atmosphere, and it's just the gold in its powder form, shot up in rockets will plug the holes in the atmosphere. Well. The Aanaki who were have been mentioned many times in the Native American or here, aimed to the planet, and we were made. We were bred with the DNA of the Ananaki and the Sasquatch who are already here. They've kept intermingling, intermingling, intermingling until they bred us down to where we are now, the hairless humans. So we us humans were bred from their DNA to be slave labor, to mine the goal to help them save their planet. And then when they left and everything was done, we hairless humans and the Sasquatch were left here. And that's a story of how we became the humans has nothing to do with the Biblical thing, which is, you know, everybody in their mother knows you know, the Adam and Eve and the story and all that. When you know, you know Adam and Eve both had belly buttons and everything that's ever been painted and portrayed with them, and well, you can't have a belly button if you're created from nothing. You know, where's the umbilical court, who's the birth mother? So you know, the Biblical story has holes in it, as everything does. I mean, you know, you want faith, and I understand that we need a faith in a religion or something to believe in to give us faith there's better things for us and ahead of us. And I get all that, you know, but that is where supposedly us humans came from. And the Sasquatch have been here all this time. They've been here for millions of years, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years, so the stories go, and we were created from them to mine the gold, and this is how we became who we are now, the white hairless humans. It's got a lot, it's very tantalizing, it's very sci fi, it's very well. I don't know if I can buy that. My problem is with our educational system is that for the first eighteen to twenty two years of our lives, we are told how the world is, how to see the world, what exists, what doesn't exist, what cannot exist. There's no UFOs, there's no sasquatch, there's no ghosts. Oh wait, wait, wait wait, the government was lying. There is UFOs, you know. So all these things they tell us and teach us and cram down our throat to the school, Well, you just go about your life, believe in it because you respect your elders. And they are teaching you. You don't know, they're teaching you things you don't know, so this must be how it is, and you just go about your life and live it. You know, well, so you you have free thinking in an open mind. Then you start questioning some things. But I don't know, I just that sure looks straight. You start questioning things, and that's where we have the open minds now. But you know, you think about it. If you're told is a ten twelve year old kid, there's no such thing as UFOs, there's no such thing as sasquatch, there's no such thing as ghosts, what do you get? You go to school, you go to church, you know, the social media, the government, the schools. If they all tell you how things are, you know, and the teacher grabs a book. It's his paycheck and he teaches you from a book from a curriculum in high school, junior high, elementary, whatever, And so you're told how things are, and so you're going to doubt when anything that goes even left of center a little bit comes into your view, you go, well, that can't be. That's that's a bunch of crap. That can't be. Well, why do you know, Well, because that's what my priest told me. That's what my teacher told me. You know, that's what my friends on the internet told me. You know. So we're misdirected, you know, in many, many, many ways. You know, it's only when you become educated and start questioning things, you know. And now, of course the heat was all with the government. What four years ago, three years ago, the tic TAC videos came out and they finally had to say something. So they threw us a ball. Well, these are not ours. We didn't make them. We don't know who did. They're not earthly made. We'll get back to you. And so we've heard nothing. There's no updates really from that. I don't expect there to be no. But they threw us a bone and shut us up for the while. You know. Well, it's the same with sasquatch, because there's something they don't want us to know. If that was just another undiscovered dumb ape running around the woods, we would have heard about it a long time ago. Case closed into conversation onto the next undiscovered animal. But there's a reason they don't want us to know anything, and that is what it bothers me, you know, But it excites me because I know what I've experienced some things, so if I've experienced that, and I'm a sane, rational person. I'm not a bas or. There's no fiction in any of my books. I don't tendlate that do any of that kind of stuff. It's all like real stuff. So what do you do with that? When you come up to this conundrum where you've got to go left or right? You know, I can't believe what they're telling me. I can't believe that. I'm old. I can't believe it. I read what I hear. So what do I do with this? Now? I think I believe this, but you're telling me it can't be or it isn't be. I'm wrong, you know, So so what do you do? So there's our there's our conundrum when with the believability of Sasquatch period, whether it's a dumb ape or a long forgotten ancestor of ours long before we got here. You know. Uh, it's a it's a dilemma. But I love I love the dilemma of it all. I mean, it's it's fascinating that we go through all this, you know. And so uh uh, that's that's my stance on that. I I I will believe something a little far out like the Lloyd Pie story because it is written. You know, they didn't hoax stuff fifty thousand years ago. You know, when a caveman saw something, he drew it on a wall. You know, that's my Internet. There's a sasquatch, there's an alien. I drew it on a cave wall with some red pigment. Well that's my that's my Facebook page, you know that. That's this is how I see life. This is we just how they documented stuff back then. Yeah, I mean, and it's and no matter what tribe Native American, indigenous tribes up in Canada, anywhere, every country on the planet has a word for sasquatch. Virtually everyone al Masty in Russia, you know, the Awei in Australia, you know, YETI in uh you know the Himalayas sasquatch uh year. And I mean there's just there's a name for them. Africa, Africa has many, many names for them. So what do you do with that? I mean, it's it's not may believe, you know, they didn't. People are hoaxing now because we have the technology to hoax, because everybody wants to be somebody. Look what I got, I got a picture, I got this and that. So but what do you do with that? Well, you see that, you're hit with it, you're torn. You're an intelligent human and you're going, did I just see that? How can this really be happening? Well, it's really happening. They're just telling you it can't be. Doesn't mean it's not just telling me. Well, you're not seeing that. It's a it's a deer, it's a guy in a guilt, it's a it's a bear standing on his hind legs. Uh, it's somebody pranking you. It's anything but a SASQUATCHA the bear thing. The bear thing gets on my nerves a lot. Oh, it's just insulting now, and so what what do we do? I mean, I'm eating up with this. I've written, you know, five books, four on sasquatch, and it's just like, this is really happening. And you know, I speak it probably twenty thirty conferences a year. I do fifty or sixty podcasts a year. I'm on I've booked every week or people are wanting to hear this, and they're starting to come out of the woodwork and go I believe this. And people are sharing, you know, experiences with me. You've heard some weird stuff. I know you have. Yeah, so some of it's crazy. There's a lytgic fringe out there. I get that. But some of it it's not crazy. Some of it it's real stuff. Have you yourself had an experience of any kind. Yeah, that's why I do my podcast, because something happened in two thousand and seven. I used to be very skeptical, but seeing something crazy makes you either think you are crazy or you look into it to figure out that you're not crazy. It's just what I said. Isn't that weird in that? I mean, it's awesome, really, and it takes you down a path you weren't even expecting to go. You know. Now me too, And you know my wife has been there and experienced it with me. She saw the orb here. I mean, you know, I don't even need to make it up because it's happening. My wife has experienced it, you know, with that or come flying through the house. And I told her I just had some rocks gifted to me too, to memorialize the fact that they saw me. They saw my expedition, and I spoke to them to see if they were there, and they heard me and they spoke back with the Rocks. Yeah, I wish you could see this book cover, but it's pretty it's pretty interesting. Uh, but it's just like, but you're going to go through the rest of your life going, well, maybe I am crazy, maybe I didn't see this. I might go crazy, but I know what I saw. Yeah, see exactly. So you can't. You can't once it's happened, you can't take it away, you know. And I've never tried to talk myself out of things. You know. I've seen a lot of bizarre stuff, you know, And and I know it's for my benefit that I am shown this so that I can share my experiences with the people that are sharing their experiences with me, so I can make them feel better and more comfortable telling their stories, saying, if you've got a story to tell me, just tell it. Don't pull any punchers, don't save anything because you think I'm gonna think you're nuts, because you're going to not nuts. I mean, I'm not nuts. You know, Brandon's not nuts, you know. I mean, you've seen an experience and you know it, and you I don't spend too much time trying to convince people because you know, I've got a lot of friends that are not in this field, and they they think Carter is the weird one. Yeah, and that's okay. You know, I feel sorry for it because, you know what, one day, hopefully in my lifetime, our lifetime, the government will come clean, you know, because we've got far more things to worry about than what a sasquatch is. You know, we our planet is all the verge of self destructing if we don't change our ways with pollution and our racism and hatred and war and all the things we're doing just causing turmoil and our planet. This is the very thing they don't want us to be doing, and they're trying to get us to get away from that. But we you know, humans, we think we're the boss of everything and we're going to own everything. If we don't like it, we'll kill it, because that's what humans do, you know, or destroy it, so it may Maybe that's the reason they don't want us to know about sasquatch and other weird animal like cryptid like dog men and stuff, because maybe these things are such above what we are. We can't control them, they can't kill them. That's why they don't want us to know about them because it's something the government hasn't been able to weaponize monetize. And I believe that totally because you know, with the UFOs, they have taken every thing they could weaponize, monetize and militarize. And now that they've done most of that work, that's when they throw us the bone with the tic TACs because they've got all the technology that's at their disposal right now. They've got plenty, so they can throw us that bone, you know, And depending on who you talk to, the TIC TACs are either built by us, or built by them and given to us, or they're teaching us how to fly them or what have you. But you know, that's why I think they threw us that bone, because they've got everything out of that just about that they can, so we don't need that secret anymore. We have plenty of other secrets, So I think that's why they threw us that little bone. It's kind of insulting, you know, but it was nice at the same time to validate your beliefs, you know, nothing else then when I've seen one. So see, I've got one of my habituation witnesses, the ones that I are, we on time, We getting close to time, or we're good, you can keep going. Okay. The family that I sat with on the porch, every morning, he gets up and takes their dog and they walk a quarter mile up to their gate. They got two hundred acres and so they that's the dog's exercise for the day. He walks up there, gets the male, comes back, has breakfast with the wife. Well. Several times the sasquatch will be waiting for them, hiding behind a tree and just watching him, and they'll step out from behind the tree and let him see them. One time they stepped out from behind the tree and there was a female holding a newborn and they're showing my human brand and their baby and go back behind the tree. Who does that? You know? And I get photos from them. He has a spy point tracking system there. Spy points that satellite trail cams. You subscribe you you familiar with that, no, you know. You subscribe to it and you get like for fifty bucks a month, you get one hundred photos and if you want more, you'll charge it. But it's a satellite based thing, and it's pretty good stuff. But it just takes random pictures. You can't program it, so I want pictures at ten two, four, six, eight ten. It'll just take a random picture. Sometimes it'll let a trip itself. But about four or five months ago he sent me a photo and it's a juvenile sasquatch back lit by the rising sun. And behind the juvenile is a parent standing behind it, towering over it. Now you can barely make it out because it's just the sun's just coming up. It's coming up over the horizon and its back lit. These beings are back lit, so you really can't see, but you can see the shape that the torso, the head and the shoulders you can see. And this juvenile that was all this trail camp photo. I've got it on my desktop. I think it might be the juvenile he was shown about four or five years ago. That's grown up. But the sashquatchest letting them see his family, letting him see their children. And he's standing right there in case something goes wrong. But they know why people they're not they're not hunt well, they are hunters, but they don't shoot and they're not out to kill them. They love interacting with them. So and I've got this video. I mean, it's not the video it's it's the it's the trail game photos and they have orbs, they have UFOs on their property. They've seen orbs right before or right after a sasquatch sighting. They've seen UFOs right before or right after a sasquat sighting. They've seen sasquatch right after or right before a UFO sighting. Some of these craft are like one hundred yards long. It's like this long giant thing that just flies over. It takes forever to fly over your house. It's just this long cylindrical object, like a long baseball bat shape thing, a cigar shaped And so this happens that they're home all the time, and they're just simple country folks. You wouldn't know if you were standing next to them. You have no idea that these people are interacting with sasquatch in UFOs and orbs. I mean, it's just a crazy thing. A lot of people don't even want to talk about it because of that reason. They're off everyone's automaticist of their line or crazy or something. It's the stigma. Well, it's a stigma, and it's because you're told that these things can't exist. So if you're telling me they exist, there's something wrong with you. You probably you know, you cut back on the gummies or something, you know, because you're seeing stuff that doesn't exist. How do I know it doesn't exist? Because they told me they taught me in school. Oh gee, that's a solid, you know, foundation for a belief system right there. You know, the educational system anymore, we're just here to dumb people down. Yep, yep, you're right on that. So, uh, that is the gist of my research. I mean, I've got all kinds of stories and events, but I mean you've got the gist of it, you know, people, Okay, you want to talk about your books before, if you want to. I've got four books that it's called Sasquatch Evidence of an Enigma one, two, three, and four, and they're all true stories. Some of these are actual reports from BFRO. Oh. Like I said, I've had one hundred reports published to BFRO, so I got permissions from them to put them in the book. Like I said, all my locations are fake, all the people's names are fake, because that doesn't matter, and you don't want nuts. Alan in a pickup truck with a couple of rifles looking around for a Sasquatch. Well, I know all those people live, he just told me, so, you know, so it doesn't matter who they are or where they are, it's what they're all experiencing in unison. They're all experience seeing the same things. They're interacting on a variety of different levels. So I've got four books, and uh, you can order them from me at U Sasquatch. Uh, it's sqexplorer dot com. Is my website, sq explorer dot com. That's my website. Really easy, I'll put that, huh. I'll put that in the show notes for anyone. Yeah, and if you want to email me, email me at sq explorer at gmail dot com. I'm very creative that way. See. Yeah, well that's so that's all I can. That's the that's the extent of my memory. So I just went ahead and just use the same name over and over and over until I can't be more. Uh. But uh, if you want to buy the books, are they're autographed, their full color nice paper for paperbacks are very very very nice. I use very good paper and I autograph them and personalize them for you. And you know, they're all two hundred and fifty to three hundred and sixty five pages. You know, I'm self published, so you can find the kindle versions on Amazon. But I don't sell my books on Amazon, my physical books, because they're too expensive. You know, they gouge people with their color stuff, especially, so I sell them out of my house. I'm self published, have been for you know, five or six years, and so if you email me or call me, I will return the call. I'm not one of those that just blows it off. Give me your money for the books and see you later. I truly love talking to people that are having these experiences. It's just it's fascinating and they like being able to talk to Somebody will laugh at them. Now it's off at them. You know. The people that are worse. The worst people to do that are your spouse. Your spouse and your coworkers because they can't and they know you'll keep coming back. The reason I didn't talk about what happened with me is because I actually experienced something with a coworker, and when we got back to work, I was trying to talk about what I discovered by looking on the internet. People started laughing at us, and the other coworker didn't want to talk about it, and he got mad at me for bringing it up because he didn't want people thinking he was crazy too. Inn't that say? That's that's the human condition. It's the world we live in. Yeah, and it's not fair, you know, but you know what you saw and you know what you experienced, and no one could ever take that away from now. You know, you can't be talked out of whatever it is happened to you. Nobody can talk me out of what happened to me, you know. And and people are gaining strength. It's a slow process because people have been used to just keeping it secret and not saying anything. And some of these people have been sitting on this for ten, fifteen, twenty years, and there's so overleas. Some of them were just burst into tears and just oh, I'm so glad I could talk to you. Thank you so much. But you know, and I'm nobody, It's just I'm a voice. I'm two ears and two eyes. I will listen and to what you have to say, and I'll give you ideas as to what you experienced. If we can't explain it away, then you got something, you know, And I love it when I can't explain it away, you know, as much as I tried to explain mine a way, I never could. You can't. You can't, you know, just like the thing with my wife, I couldn't explain that away. And she was there to see it, you know. And then she saw the or and she's going and she's a sensitive you know, she's an old Nebraska farm girl. She's she's seeing ghost and her childhood hold was haunted. She's she's not new to this, she's new to the Sasquatch that ghosts are different. But now she going, well, it's all kind of the same thing. There's all this thing going on under the level, you know, under our eyes, under our noses, and it's just something that keeps going on, and nobody talks about. It is everybody's dirty little secret, you know. But you know, I'm glad you stuck to your guns and you used to stay with it, you know. And now you're doing podcasts and you're gonna be going to a sasquatchrofessional. That's pretty cool, you know, I mean, that's you know, you love what you're doing. You love it, and you're gonna go talk to people and people are gonna come see you and get more listeners. For your podcast. So it's all it's all good stuff that all works out. Yeah, you know, that's why we do this. You know. I wanted to give people a place to come and talk about something that I felt like I could never talk about so exactly. And that's when I do conferences. It's the same thing. I'm a speaker there, so I'll speak, you know, in return for my booth space. I speak and then I get my free booth and you know, there's three or four day conference whatever it is. The people come up to me all the time, they going, oh my god, you know, give me a card and I will hear from him. Every time I do one of those, I hear from somebody just like you probably will. You're gonna hear. We've got four different conventions. I'm speaking at two of them, and I've got two different Bigfoot conventions. I'm doing this. Everything's in September and October, so looking forward to that. Yeah, I'm going up to a Reno, Nevada to speak at a conference with Dave Scott's space Stout Radio. I don't know if me with him. I've heard of him. I'm kind of a Sasquatch guy. He's at a candidate and we become good type friends. And so I'm going up there to speak at he does a big party for space Stout Radio SR part gets here and so I'm his sasquatch person. Nice. Here's psychics and mediums and you know UFO people, and here's everybody out of the sign. You know how this show is too? Huh? How my show is too? I literally have all sorts of different scryptos to UFOs. I've had psychics, I've had astral projections, I've had all sorts of people. Well, uh, maybe sometime in the future. Uh. The fifth book I wrote, I Know you can't see Me. It's called Baptized by Abduction. I was rebducted when I was seven or eight and Dallas, Texas, Me and a buddy we were riding their bikes and we ran a stop sign in this car just blew by. We felt the wind and we having this car not hit us it should have hit us. Well, it wasn't a car, it was a craft. It was a UFO. I've been regressed, uh seven times by four different regressionist uh, and it's all it's all real, true stuff. And I've got a book out on that do you know Dolores Cannon. Yeah, I know the name. Okay, Yeah. She took me under personally twice, and the other women that took me under were her students. She's she's like the John Mack of UFO abductions and regression hypnosis. Yeah, along with what's his name, the artist I've spaced out on his name. I do this all the time. He's a painter and he is out of New York and he has been interviewing. He passed away to John mac got killed mysteriously in London. Car hit him after he came out. But anyway, so she took me into twice, and this stuff happened to me. I mean it's you know, I had implants, I was taken to Saturn, I was taking the Machi pichu, I'm taken out of my bed, and all these dreams I had as a kid, I thought they were just weird dreams. Where they weren't weird dreams. I found out by accident I had been abducted. I'm seventy two now. I found out by accident when I was fifty three, by going to a hypnotist with my wife and another couple to see if we had past lives and when I went under, I went last. I started sobbing uncontrollably, talking like a ten year old boy. Oh leave me alonely, but what are you doing to me? Stop? What do you doing to my friend? And they're all just standing there with their jaws open, including the hypnotist because she had just got her license. I was probably the third or fourth person she'd ever had, and she gets an alien abduction. It's kind of funny. We're friends now, you know, But at the time she had no idea what to do. I mean, she was brand new to the field. But I may have been visited as recently as twenty nineteen here at our house, but I've been taken I don't know how many times. But that's a whole nother show for me. But it was fascinating because I found you my childhood was not what I thought all the memories, and many of the memories I had were not really memories of what I thought they were. There were something else. I will definitely have you back on to talk about it because it was fascinating. It's fascinating, it blows your mind and it's real stuff too. And that's the problem I had with the the crypti community was that. I was afraid that they were going to go, oh, your Sasquatch books are not selling real quick, so now we've been abducted. Huh. I felt that that was going to be it. So I didn't do anything about it for a long time. And I said screw it, because I did a show with Travis Walton, you know who he is, Firing the Sky. His booth was next to mine. We got to talk and I told him what happened, and he goes, what the heck are you waiting for? Tell somebody, tell the world. You want everyone to come to you and tell you all their stories about Sasquatch. You've been abducted by aliens. You need to tell those people those stories too, so that those people will come to you and tell you stories. And I've been approached by many investigators under the condition of anonymity, that I want your book. I had dreams of being taken out of my window in my bedroom as a kid. Many women told me I thought I was pregnant. That it just went away. All these weird memories, and a lot of them are investigators, and I can't even mention their names. You'd probably recognize a couple of names if I mentioned them, But I mean they've had and this might be a reason I got into what I'm into, you know, this might be a reason they got into the field they're into, which is, you know Sasquat's researchers what I do. And I only found out about this twenty years ago. You mentioned you didn't want to bring it up to the car crypto community. What I saw was something very similar to this. You mentioned dog man, and a lot of people say I saw a dog man. I say, I saw it upright, walking canine because it didn't have the humanoid figures, it didn't have the hands or anything like that. It had normal dog features. And I wrote, like the first chapter is literally like what happened? And then I turned it into a fictionalized story. And I've told people like, basically, the guy's a podcast or I interview people, it's not about it's about me. But it's not about me. I wrote this last fall and I turned into a horset or I used my own experience and I made a fictionalized story out of it. Well people think that, well, if you made that up, if you can write a fictionalized story, you're making everything up. No, I wouldn't have ever wrote anything had I not experienced that. Yeah, Like, well, I don't even talk about the book anymore because I'm like people are just like, oh, he's full of shit because he wrote a book. I was like, no, I'm not. If you read the book, you can tell him not a writer because I suck. It's like, yeah, well I've actually got pretty good at But it was the same thing for me. I was concerned that I would get a bunch of crap crypty community because it's a very nasty, cutthroat community. As if you probably don't already know, I'm fully aware. You know, everybody wants to be number one. Everybody wants to find the body. Everybody was to get that dog man. Everybody wants to get. You know, this kid I was telling you about up in Upper Indiana. He said to me, I've got a picture that will it's bizarre and it's pretty clear. It looks like a bear standing up, but it's got black ears in the face. I mean it's and he says, I think it was a dog man. He's got pictures of other pictures. You said, man, I'm still kind of playing with them. I mean, I just he just dubbed like fourteen pictures on me. When you said the whole bear thing. That's why I mentioned earlier because people are like, oh, you saw bear. Well, we don't technically have bears here in Indiana, not at least that I'm aware of. And black bear maybe four have been reported sighted since two thousand and fifty. Only four in Indiana. I think that's the southern part. Yeah, I'm in the or central part. Yeah. And my witness, who just I've been dealing I told you about him earlier. He says they only really come through seasonally, like they're passing through where he's at now. They're down the southern part, which is where it's hilly. More Mountain starts down in that counties and everything else. But I looked at the conservation site, I looked at a couple other just you know, googled, and there's only four or five reports of black bear since twenty fifty in the whole state of India. Now that could be all, you know, but it's just you know, what we ought to do. We should trade books. My thing it was bear is like black bears don't have long bushy tails. I saw what I saw, did so explain that one. Yeah, this one, this bear whatever it is, is standing next to a tree and on the other side of the tree were there's kind of black block. So you know, phone cameras only shoot a seventy two dpi dot bridge, you know, So I up to four hundred and all sorts of clarity came out. This looks like a panda bear standing next to this tree. It's almost comical, you know. But you know this this kid doesn't know anything. He was petrified. He was freaking out. He's ready to pack his fiance and kid up and hit the road. So I talked to him down So, but I mean, you know, the I'll trade a book with you you want, if you got one you want to trade. Yeah, I can trade with you. Oh, Saint Andrew, I'll tell you my UFO book. Do you send me your because I have just gotten in the last two years, I've gotten three dog Man reports. We don't get many of them down here in Missouri. You guys up there, you know Pennsylvania, you know, Ohio, Indiana you've got the dog Man, the Offman stuff. You know, Illinois, Chicago, you've got I'm only about eighty miles from the Michigan line. So that's prime dog man territory. Yeah. I wonder why that is. Is that because a cave system or topography or wonder why when I when I first looked into it, because I was thinking, we're wolf, because the first thing you think of, because I didn't know what a dog man was. I wasn't into this type of stuff. I thought were wolf. And then someone's like, oh, you saw a Michigan dog man, Like, what in the hell is a Michigan dog man? So that's when I started logging into that stuff because I never heard of that before. And that's where the term apparently originated from some song back in the seventies or eighties, and so there was like a dog man in it. The Beast of Bray Road was in Wisconsin apparently in the early two thousands, and I don't know, there's just a lot of strangeness that goes involved in it. And now all of a sudden, it seems like dog Man's like super popular all of a sudden. Yeah. Uh. I do a lot of work with lawn Strickler, you know, fantoms and monsters. Yeah, and they're heavy, hevy heavy dog man. I'm kind of his sasquatch guy. But there's not a lot of need for me because they are so inundated with the dog man and Mothman and pale whites and slender Man and or obscure you know, ah, beasts, creatures, whatever beings, whatever you want to call it, and so uh. But I I get I get several of his reports a year, and they're all pretty stimulating. I mean, you're you're listening to like this guy was just totally equip it what I got it, and he, like I said, I talked him down. But I might send you the photo. I'll just have to make sure I get permission. I might send you this photo and just see what you think of it. It's it's interesting. Yeah, if he's from Indiana, you can always mention to him that I'm not too far from him. I'm only about like an hour and a half away, So if he ever needs a local person, he can always reach out to me. They do that because he is teetering on like I need somebody to help me do something, and then he calms down, then he goes back, and then he calms down, he goes back. But the things I told him to do to stop the activity have worked, so I've got it on side. He knows I know what I'm talking about. I said, it's not rocket science. Here. They don't like cameras. They don't like lights. So you want that stuff to stop. Put those up and they will come around. And they haven't. You know, they're still there. They're walking around on the fringage where the well the light stops and dies. They're standing right on the edge of that on the precipice. It's kind of funny, but yeah, we'll just trade addresses on a messenger. Yeah, that works. I'll send you this because you might find it interesting. Oh maybe one of the other books I've got to You can't see me, can you? I can see you, okay, the hand, the little the fingers in front of the camera. Yeah, that's the trail camp. I've seen that picture before. Well, I've posted a lot because it's This is my third Sasquatch book. This is the preacher checking his cameras. The time is three twelve and thirty six seconds. The time date stamp is right here. Yeah, on the Sasquatch hand, three twelve forty seconds. It was four seconds behind me. I never saw it, never sensed it, never heard it. I think it just appeared it bumped the camera. And you tell me which one you would rather have. I'll send one of one of these, one of either. I'll take your abduction one. Okay, it's it's it's something else, it's it's I'm baring my soul. There's no photos. It's just all you know. I took all my tapes, transcribed them to a USB adapter. I plugged it in to my word program. I got it to type it all out, and then I had to go back and correct everything because you all how that works. But the dictation. So but that's how I wrote this book. Was my seven abduction tapes is including Dolores Cannon. I loved her. She was awesome. She was just she got right to it, man. She didn't jack around a bit. She got right to it with this was what you just said. This is like the first I think I picked like twelve different interviews that I had done when I first started the podcast last year. That's how I knew how to make the book. I took the transcripts and I just had it like transcribed from the audio. It did all the writing for me, and then I just went through and just put it in like book for me, and then I had Amazon print me off a book of it because I thought it'd be cool to have my own book. Yeah, and then the reason I wrote my fictionalized thing is like I went on and read it and I actually I never even talked about my experience on my podcast at this point up until almost a year ago now, and I'd been doing the show for over a year and I never talked about it. But I went on Reddit and I wrote what happened is. Someone started critiquing how I wrote my story. They're like, oh, you don't didn't describe what happened, Like I was like, I wrote what happened, like this is true, this is really what happen. I wasn't writing a book, and then it clicked in my head. It's like, you know what, I'm gonna turn it into a book. And then that's what I did. And then I ran it through like these chatbots to format it and everything, and I don't know what the hell I'm doing. It changed, it changed words around and stuff, and I didn't realize that until after I had it printed. So I'm like, now I feel like I didn't write because it literally anyone ever questioned. I was like, I'll show you the book I have. I wrote it all on my phone and notes, and then I just emailed all these things to myself and I put it in a word and I just did it that way because that's how I did it. That's pretty much what I did. Because cassettes are a dead medium, you know. I've got seven cassette tapes, and so I bought a cassette player, just a little portable cassette player, and it came with an adapter for a USB poort and so I could just take something like this and plug it into that and let the tapes play. Then I could plug it in here to my word program and let it, you know, just play, and it would type it all out. Well, of course there's you know, interpretation and phrasing and all that off. So looked like you I went in and just clinged it all up in kind. But that book you just showed me, it looks like about what four hundred pages more this one, I think three hundred and put over three sixty. Yeah, see this one, here's three sixty six about Yeah, I said, the one that I wrote myself. That's actually like everything I wrote it's only like one hundred and fifty, but I literally wrote it over a four day span. So yeah, yeah, I hyper fixate. So I start something, I just sit there and keep doing it until I'm done with it. So yeah, that's kind of I do. I don't like to make time for things, but when I do, I get them done. Yeah. So I didn't. I never intended to write a book, but when COVID hit and I've got all these reports, I got permission from Matt Moneymaker to just any report you published and you were involved in. But I'm in a book. It's fine. Yeah, I just started writing. And then COVID kept around, and so all these people started calling me, and I said, well, dang, that's already one book. I better as we'll start a second one, then a third one, and then a fourth one. You know, I said, Jesus, people give me a break, you know, we take a break. But uh, well, okay, we'll trade addresses on Messenger and I'll mail my new million years and uh you know, and if you want to do another one. Just strickling about this, Yeah, it's it's intriguing. It It changed a lot of things, a lot of the thing just like with you. Probably your life is of what you really thought it was, at least abduction wise for me, maybe even the memories I have that I thought were one thing or something else entirely. Yeah, you know, just slap across my face, you know. But yeah, let's trade that. This is, this is I enjoyed this, Brandon, you know, let's just do it again. Yeah, I'll definitely hate you back up sometime later this summer. Like I said, I'm booked out until basically July by plan on taking the whole mother July off. SOME'MI I gonna start back up again till August. So maybe sometime in August, will get something set up. That's fine, Yeah, yeah, because I'm gonna I've got to go speak up up in Reno and I'm may be going up to Canada. I'm not sure if I'm going to make that trip or not. Uh and uh uh so yeah, that's fine. Just whenever you can, just want to, you know, get in touch when you can. But uh, I'll send you this, you send me ears, and here we go. Yep. So I like a plan. I'll try and get it, Melou, either tomorrow or Wednesday or sometime this week Okay, yeah, no, rush, you know, I'm not going anywhere, but yeah, I think you'll enjoy the reading. I'll enjoy your read because that's cool. I like the true stuff you know that you know so now the bad you know it's it's it's what happened to you. It's your words. Yeah, Like the first chapter is literally, like I said, it's a fictionalized book, but the first chapter is literally what happened to me. And then it's about a guy named Brian Brandon and he starts a podcast he interviews people, but he starts looking into this dog man stuff and it just goes from there, like it turns into like a horror story. But like the very first chapter is literally what happened to me. So and I've told people that too. It's like it's it's not a true story in the sense of what is, but it's influenced from my personal experience in life. Sure, sure, Sure, what's the Sasquatch thing you're going to go to? It's the first annual Bigfoot Conference, the Indiana Bigfoot Conference September twenty seventh and twenty eighth in Nashville, Indiana, twenty seventh to twenty eighth, Yeah, Nashville, Indiana. Yep, I never knew there was such a thing. It's a little town that's actually a really cool place. It's very hilly, very squatchy areas, and yeah, nice little town. They got set up a bunch of shops and everything. It's in Brown County, Indiana. But that whole area is outside of Bloomington, which is only like a little bit from where you said that guy had been sending you stuff that had the or Monroe County or whatever from that lake Lake Monroe. Yeah, he's not far from Lake Monroe. It's a family plot. They've had land there forever. Yeah, that's all in the same area. Yeah. What I might do, because I'm working on some photos for him, is calling him. It's say, hey, here's this guy. If you want to reach out to him, or he's going to be at this Sasquatch convention, maybe you want to go down and hook up with him. So you've got some kind of somebody that can help you in your area, you know. I know I've interviewed and I've talked to the guy that actually set up he's the one that's doing the convention. His interview be coming out here in a couple of weeks on my podcast. But he lives in that area, so I could even try and help hook him up with that guy because he's does all the stuff for down there. Well, that's what the guy needs is does somebody boots on the ground come out and traverse the land and see what he's going through. And he's okay with me sending photos to some of my researcher guys who are going to be looking at the photos trying to clean him up a little bit. I think even if you see this photo, you're you're gonna go, well, bear it just it is. It's not a sash flag, that's for sure, because that's what he initially But I'll I'll drop him that information and see if he wants to. Do you have an email address he could contact you at. Yeah, it's I can message everything to you. Okay, do that? Yeah, because that what he will call. You won't have your phone number. You can give that to him if you are comfortable, you know, yeah, just send me that info one and do you send your mailing address and everything. But he might be relieved whether it's you or your buddy who does research in that area, because that's what he needs is somebody to come out there and you know, pat him on the back and say it's going to be okay. You know you're not gonna be eating in your sleep, you know. Yeah, your fiance might get eaten inn sleep, but you know they'll leave you, you know, so I can't mess with that. That's too easy, all right. Well, yeah, you let him know if he needs anyone to talk to locally, you can reach out to me and I can try and hook him up with some of the people that I know they're actually in that area. So this is a fortuitous little show, because isn't that bizarre. Dentally get a call two days ago and uh and this guy and you're you're right there, Yeah, plug into somebody. So see, there he goes. This is very fortuitous. So there we go. It's good for him. So well, Carter, has been a pleasure. Absolutely. I look forward to reading your book and I look forward to reading yours. This gonna be fun again. I want to say thanks for coming on here and talk to me. It's been a pleasure. I enjoyed it immensely, and we'll do it again. Similarly when you get a chance. Not a problem, all right, got you enjoyed the evening. Yeah, back to you have good night, and that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of tenfoiltal dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. Thank you all for joining us on this journey, and until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown. Good night, everyone seens on sounds in the headphones. Yeah, it's turns rock. Got a story about a crypty creature. Let's take a walk, thig foot up. 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