Ep. 103: Bigfoot and Werewolves

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to another new episode of Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Wright. Tonight's episode, We're gonna be joined by my guest, Kelly. Kelly's a fellow Hoosier. She's had several different experiences throughout her lifetime. That's kind of a letter to where she's at today. Kind of got connected a while back and got things scheduled to come on here. Talk a little bit about what she's experienced, but before we bring Kelly on. If you've ever had an experience or a story you'd like to share, you can send an email to Tenfoiltales podcast at gmail dot com, or you can go to the website tenfoiltl dot com and go up to the contact section. Either way works. We'll get your message to me and then we'll get something schedule for a future episode. Even if you don't want to be an actual guest on the show, but you have a story you'd like to share, you can send it to me. I'm thinking about collecting those and maybe having a section set up on the website for experiences submitted. The idea of been kicking around. We'll see how that goes. If you'd like to help the podcast out, please continue to share it, whether you're listening to it on Apple, Spotify, any of those podcatchers, or if you're watching on YouTube, listening along on there. 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The two events in October, I will also be a guest speaker at so if you want to come out and listen to me talk, be your opportunity to do so. But all the events, I'll have a vender set up. I'll had some goodies for you guys. I'll even have my recording rigs, So anyone interested in stopping buying talking with me, that'd be your chance to do so. But now it's time to bring Kelly on hear about some of the weird things she's the encounter here my local state. Hope you guys enjoy the conversation, so set back, relax, and enjoy the show. I'd like to take the time to welcome my guest tonight, Kelly. Thanks for coming on here and talking to me. Yeah, thanks for having me on. I'm glad to be here. We've chit chatted a little bit back and forth for about a month or so and I've been booked out for so long that it takes a little bit to get on here. But definitely glad to have you on. Yeah, Yeah, glad to be here. I know scheduling is tough. I totally get it. You have your own show, too, don't you. I do. Yeah. I have a YouTube channel called Beacon News and several Facebook groups, one for spiritual growth, one for the crypto stuff, and then I have another one for alien abduction. Because I actually have experience in all of the buffs. It is interesting, and I've admitted to before that I've always been somewhat skeptical when people so they've had all these different experiences. But the more I've gotten into it, I think they're all somehow interconnected anyway, So I'm not as skeptical against it as I used to be, right right, I mean I was the same way. You know, I've always known that I was clairvoyant, and you know, I could see dead people, talk to dead people and things like that. And then when I got a little bit older, you know, my uncles and my brothers were big hunters and they had their whole Bigfoot experiences and stuff, and of course I was witnessed to a lot of that. And then probably by the time I was seven or eight, was my first alien encounter. And for the longest time, those were just three different things about my life, you know, like I didn't see a connection. I didn't think there was a connection to any of it. But now I'm in my early fifties and in the research that I've done in the last twenty three years, I also was an investigator for Moufon for several years. Because of my extreme UFO encounters, I became a field agent. And so for twenty three years now I've been studying this and the more that I've learned, and I still learn every single day, but the more I've learned, the more I've realized that it really is all interconnected. And I'll be honest with you, I walked into the NSA's website and just walked straight into their alien vault one time. It was public knowledge, you know, early two thousands. I guess they didn't think people were ballsy enough to do that then, and I was, and I mean I paid a lot of help for it, but still I saw the list they had at that time, a list of fifty seven known species, and bigfoot was one of those species on the list, and it really ticked me off. It really really aggravated me, because I would I still just could not wrap my mind around that part of the whole bigfoot thing, right. You know. I knew that people saw them near portals and that there were usually you know, spheres of light or UFO encounters around the same times with other people, but I personally had never experienced that, so I just thought that was maybe a little too woo woo, right, And so it really irritated me to see that on their lists. And then of course the Mars Rover video was leaked that had the bigfoot looking man on the cliff. I don't know if you know about that or remember that it sounds back around it's around two thousand and six. I think that that happened, and of course they pulled it right away, But ever since then, I'm like, Okay, maybe there is something to the whole Bigfoots on that list thing. And you know, since then, I've become I also have a group, a research group where we go out and do research in the field for not just bigfoot but paranormal staff. We're actually kind of on a mission to meld it all together now and to show people that it is all connected and that likely these Bigfoots are some type of prominide, you know, some type of human if you will, and that they are very closely working with some type of alien agenda, whether you want to call that intervention or or just an agenda. That's you know, your opinion. I'm not here to persuade anybody of their beliefs, but it's just it's so fascinating to me now how interconnected it all is. And all three aspects have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember, which is really strange. So let me just start by saying I am a psychic medium professionally, and I have a spiritual business online where I help people to seek clarity and speak to their past loved ones if necessary, to find that clarity that they need and that closure. And then I also go out in the field and do paranormal work where we help to send the souls that are willing to the light and free them from their tether that they are bound to here, because every ghost that's on the earthly plane has some type of teather that was created to keep them here. And then we also go in the field and do Bigfoot research and stuff like that. As I said before, So theybody's interested in that, I'm sure you'll have my detail in your description or whatever, and they can get a hold of me for that. But when we were little, this is where it all began for me. When we were really little growing up in Arkansas, we were in a very rural area, and as I said, my uncles and my brothers were all very avid hunters, and they were out hunting and would come home mad telling stories about how Bigfoot had tracked their deer and took their deer before they could get to it. And I'm like, what, no way you know? If anything, these these creatures are probably herbivores, is what I thought. They were herbivores, right, They're totally harmless. They don't want to hurt anybody, they don't want to eat our meat. I've learned a lot since then, needless to say. But my uncle my uncles had gotten this notion that they would set bear traps to catch one, to prove to other people that they do exist, and they are taking their deer when they're hunting them. And I happened to be privileged enough to be staying the night at their house the night that the bear trap went off, and it was the most horrendous, frightening scream I have ever heard to this very day in my life. It was a blood curdling screen. And of course all of my uncles and my brothers were there waiting with their guns, and they jumped up and they're all, you know, the noise was such a loud, scary noise that even these men with their guns were scared to go out in the dark to see what it was. They would wait till first light and then go see. And at first light when they went out, lo and behold, there was no animal in this bear trap. In fact, the bear trap was broke open and laying on the ground in pieces. And that really blew their mind and mine, of course, because is something that strong. I mean, I don't know if you know about bear traps, but they're pretty dang strong. Yeah, they're pretty sick and heavy duty because obviously they're trying to catch up or something. Yeah, and this this thing was broke open and that really rattled to my uncle's then. So they they were pretty hell bent that they were just gonna set out in the woods at night and shoot at anything that moved to hope to kill them, which really disturbed me because being an impath, I felt their pain, you know. I felt they're worry over this, and personally I can understand why they don't like humans and their weapons. We have a lot of shoot first, asked question leaders kind of mentality too often and things I think. But anyway, they never did actually get one. We saw plenty of them. They would come out on the road in front of us, they would walk through the woods right near where we were. They they were not afraid to show themselves the way that a lot of people will tell that they're so elusive, you know, and we never witnessed them going into any portals or becoming transparent where you can't see them, or being able to cloak or we never experienced any of that. But again, maybe they just didn't feel the need for it there. I don't know, because a lot of people in Arkansas, it was pretty common knowledge that they exist. Now. When I was a teenager, we moved to Indiana. This is where all of my people are from, and so we moved back to be closer to family. And one of my older brothers had lost his German shepherd that was like part of the family for all of us. So we're all out in the woods just right outside of New Salisbury, Indiana and Harrison County, and we're calling for this dog. And I was about sixteen when this happened. And you know, of course, I've got a couple of brothers, my boyfriend is out there with us, my mother was out there, and I guess some of them were, you know, keeping a close eye on me being the only girl in the woods, but they noticed before I did that. I walked straight up on a juvenile bigfoot. And I mean, like within two and a half three feet of this thing right it's standing up against the tree, and it's got one arm hanging up in the tree. I'm almost ape like, So I can understand why some people would say that they think they're apish. But it's face. I'll never forget it's face for as long as I live because I was looking at another type of human species that is not supposed to exist, and I was bewildered. I wasn't frightened at all, Like nothing in me said I should be scared. I looked straight in its eyes, and it looked straight in my eyes, and the compassion in its eyes as if it was telling me I'm sorry about the dog. I don't know if it killed the dog and ate it, or if it was just you know, felt my sorrow and my desperation to find the dog, and you know, could hear that in my voice. I don't know why it was looking at me so compassionately, but it was looking at me very compassionately, and it changed my whole world. It changed everything I ever thought about because as a kid, you know, that was scary to hear them in the woods so near the houses and the trailer. My aunt lived in a little bitty seventies style trailer. I mean, it literally could have came straight through that thing at us. Us kids were scared, you know, to hear it. But this changed everything for me, and I think I've been on a quest ever since then to prove that they are some type of human because this looked more like to me what we would think of as a caveman or a Neanderthal. This did not look like some swamp ape or large gorilla type creature. You know, this was some type of man. Did it look more like you said, look more like a man. It had more like the humanoid like nose, didn't have the more wider nose and bigger mouth like subscribes a lot of the sasquatch. Its nose. Its nose was whiter than mine is, or or wider than let's say, the average Caucasian person. Now, my dad had a really big nose, a really wide nose, so it didn't look that much different than my own dad's, you know. And it didn't really have a whole lot of facial hair. It had almost like chops coming down the sides, you know, toward the cheekbones, and of course the top of its head. It had quite a bit of hair, but it wasn't fur. It was it was like full on hair. And he was very much hairy on his arms and his legs and his torso, you know, he was very hairy. But I didn't look at his body in detail because I was so captured by his eyes, you know, because we made eye contact, so I was really more focused on what his face looked like. But now his hands, his hands looked like hands of a man. I saw the hand draped through the tree limb, and again, you know, he was very hairy. But I mean, arguably, we have some very hairy men of our own species, you know, So I don't think it would be too far of a stretch to think that it would be some kind of human that lives out there in the woods and they need that hair, right, because your hair is your not just your protection from weather and such, but it's also it works like antenna, right, Your hair moves, you know, with the energy in the air that lets you know what's going on. So that would be a very good built in defense mechanism to have if you lived in the woods, in my opinion. But yeah, ever since then, I've just been on this quest to prove somehow that they were some type of human species. But you know, of course, at sixteen, I didn't know how I was ever going to do that. And I've read all the books, and I watched all the shows, and I you know, the shows really for me, are just lackluster. The whole knock it on trees and doing the different things out there, because in my opinion, the tree knocks and the ructures that they're building out there, that's not for our benefit or for us to use, you know, to try to communicate with them. Those are things for their benefit to let much like the Native Americans used to do. I don't know if you're familiar with the way their Native Americans used to do things when they were able to live free across the land, but they would do certain tree structure signals that means, you know, you can find food here, or there's water here, or hey, this is my territory where my family is. You know. It was different meanings like that for things. And I think that the uh Forced people, the Sasquatch people are using it much the same way. You know, some of it could definitely be to say, you know, keep out, keep away from here. But and like the calls, the calls are for them to communicate with each other and to let someone know that there's somebody around. So for us to be out there doing that, it's kind of ridiculous because we're just telling them, hey, I'm over here, and I'm I'm somebody looking for you. You know, I never understood why people do that. Yeah, when someone goes out looking for these things, they make a call. These things are going to know that you're not them, right and all. If they're really that elusive to where they don't want people to see them, all you're doing is like, hey, we're over here, don't bother coming this way exactly exactly. And so when when my group goes out looking for them, we're not actually I mean, we go to spots that we know that they're present in from seeing tree structures and footprints and things like that. But what we will do is we will set down our in our circle around our fire or whatever, and we will just chill and be us and let bigfoot come to us. And that works so much better than going out in the woods in their territory and you know, making them want to play hide and seek, because they do come in. They're curious about us, you know, they want to see what we're doing, especially if you're laughing and giggling and having a good time, or if you're singing, and even with me being spiritual, you know a lot of times my children and I will go outside in our backyard near the woods and we sing and we dance, and we meditate, and we say mantras and you know, different things like that. And we ended up with a whole family of well three to be exact bigfoots that would come up and watch us play and frolic in the yard. They never tried to harm us and never tried to get too close to us or scare us. And a lot of people that I've told that too were like, oh, they'll steal your babies, they'll steal women, you know, and maybe sometimes they do. I'm not saying they don't. I'm just saying that this particular family of three, I would have trusted them with my life, and actually, on a couple of occasions, I feel like they protected my life. We had some very large wolf or very large dog in the woods for a whole summer that had footsteps that were a good three yard three feet, which is a full yardstick in spacing between them, you know, from one step to the other, which is a pretty good step for a dog or something. And we had had a BRFO guy for Indiana come out to the house to investigate and hang out by a bonfire with us for a while to see if big foot showed up and actually the werewolf thing or whatever it is, showed up instead, and it seemed very threatening to us. It was up in a tree, it was growling, it was howling, clearly different sounds than what bigfoot are, you know, and the bfr br b r Oh. Yeah, guy got so rattled and scared that he actually packed up and left rather than stick around and see what that was. I guess that was above his pay grade, you know. He didn't want to be there for that. But after he left the rest of us remained around the fire, and we heard all kinds of rustling and stuff in the in the woods, like a tussle was going on. And then you could hear like a few big foot sounds, and then you could hear like wolf sounds, and to us it sounded like they were scrapping, you know, and I'm like, oh my god, to me, this just feels like my Bigfoot's out there protecting us, right. And it ended up, you know, getting it. You could hear something being drug like it was dragging it away. I don't know, I don't know what was happening there, but that's what it sounded like for us, is that one thing was dragging the other thing. But the wolf thing was like yelping and making different noises, and I mean it definitely went away. So in my opinion, my version of the story is Bigfoot whooped the werewolf things ask for us and kept us safe, you know. But they would come up close to the house, and I fed them all the time. I gifted them with different foods. I actually experimented with food to see what type of things they really do like. And of course they love fresh fruits and fresh vegetables, but they also really dig candy bars. They like chocolate, just like wheedies. And they don't like tuna. Even when I would take tuna out there with like a pop top and half pop it, you know, to show them how it works, they would never touch it. They would leave it behind. So they don't like tuna. They're picky. Who knew that they could be picky. Left books out there and they'd taken the books, so, you know. And I always tested this to you. I would always put the food inside of like tackle boxes and toolboxes that have complicated latches, you know, so that just any little animal coming along can't take it, right. I wanted to know for sure that it was the bigfoots that were taking it, and every time the tackle box or the filebox one time I use a filebox would be unlatched properly, things removed, and then the latch put back down on the lid like it was latched back, you know, because we would literally walk up on it and not know if they had even gotten in it and got the food because it would be latched and we would open it up and it would be completely empty. Okay, So that's clearly intelligence, right, you know, something smart one of those how to open up the boxes right and shut them back. Yeah, after they take all the things. And we never found any kind of trash in the woods from any of it, and we ruled out squatters' like, we ruled out all kinds of possibilities for what this could be other than bigfoot, even though we had already found the prints and we had already seen plenty of tree structures and I actually have those on my YouTube channel from I think it was three years ago, two years ago something like that when we first started documenting it at my house, because I hadn't realized that the place I moved to actually had a family of bigfoot in the woods until then, So that was pretty cool, and that went on. I lived there for almost four years, so that went on the whole time that I was there, And you know, I wished that I could have brought them with me when I had to move, but you know, realistically, how do you do that, right? Not like you can pack them in the van and take them with you, right. But yeah, they seemed very comforting and very sweet. Now, this new place that I've moved to also in a rural area about thirty miles from where I lived prior. There's likely a bigfoot in these woods too, but it doesn't seem to be so friendly it Well. I mean, I'll start by saying, we moved into a house that had set empty for about eight months, and so there was no activity here at all. And then I get here with my kids, and I'm full of life and they're full of life, and so then there was plenty of activity, right, And maybe that's what they didn't like about it. I don't know. Maybe they're just the type of I was gonna say people, the type of bigfoot that just doesn't like a lot of noise, and so you know, they're not pleased with us being here. I don't know, but they have taken my five yelling paint cans and thrown them up on the hillside and smashed them. Took all the dog food. Anytime we set the dog food outside, they take all the dog food. I have two huskies, and I used to leave my bags of dog food outside until that started happening because they would just take the whole dagon bag, just like help their self, you know. So, yeah, that my experience with them since I've been here at this place in the past six months has not been so pleasant. Also, in the same area of Harrison County during broad daylight, I've had two visual sightings of a werewolf. And that's honestly something that I had always hoped wasn't real, And you know, part of me still wishes that it's not real. Can I can verify there is something that is very real because I've seen one. Yeah, and it's a different kind of that's a whole different level of respectful fear right there, you know, because go ahead, I would say, not to put you off from what you're saying, but I want to touch base about when you said the sasquatch was when you just moved in, not like seeming to be happy that you're there. I literally just had an interview with someone on the previous episode and he was talking to me about I've actually just got an email from the guy a little bit ago. I'm speak with him tomorrow. He's from Monroe County, around Bloomington area, and they just bought this place and moved in recently, and no one had lived there for a long time. And now they seem to have like angered the things that we're living around the place. So I'm wondering, because you're kind of down in that, Yeah, that area too, some wonder if it's not something territorial, these things in that general region. Yeah, And see, that's another thing that I have learned in my research. A lot of these researchers think that they migrate quite often, but I don't feel like they do around here. And really there's no reason for them too, because we've got the Harrison Crawford Forestry and so many other forestries. I mean, Indiana, the state of Indiana. I don't know if you know, but we have the most forest space out of any state in the United States. You know, dense forests, and you know what do you have in forests? You've got the animals you've got the running water, you've got fish, you've got berries. You know, like, why would you have to migrate? You could live there all year long and survive. I mean I could survive in the forest here if I had to. You know, we've got caves that are in the forest and all around, particularly Harrison County, is riddled full of caves. And all of these cave systems are pretty much well most of them are unexplored except by you know, splunkers and such, So there's ample places for them to live, to hide, to survive with that having to migrate, and yeah, I do you feel like it's territorial, and you know the ones when I moved to the other location where the three were, I feel like they accepted us because of our energy and are you know, we were out there singing and dancing and meditating and chanting and doing all these things that they could see. We were very in touch with nature and very in tuned spiritually, and that made them accept us. That's my opinion of it. And here, since I've been here in the last six months, everything's been so hectic and busy up till this just this past few weeks, we've not had time to get outside and do those things, you know. And of course the weather too, right, because when we moved here, winter was just coming on and so we hadn't really been able to be outside. And I guess prove ourselves is what I'm trying to get at. You know, we haven't been able to really show this Bigfoot who we are, and all they hear is just the you know, kids running back and forth and yelling and playing and me yelling over at my brother. That's my neighbor, you know, hey, Rob, because we're just like you know, we're country people. We just holler at each other to get each other's attention. We don't use a phone or go knock on doors, We just holler across the arts. So I mean that's pretty much all they've gotten from us is just that kind of stuff, and maybe that does seem annoying to them, you know. So yeah, you just mentioned that, and again, I it's around Lake Monroe, and I thought you were down not too far from that same area, And when you mentioned that, it just it just clicked on me and reminded me. I was like, I literally just talked to someone earlier, and they're telling me about someone having an issue sail connecting some dots there back to your werewolf. I definitely want to hear about this, Okay. So, like I said, I never wanted to believe in those at all and never really gave it two thoughts even in my adult life, knowing about you know, Bigfoot and aliens and stuff like that. Well, because I had already thought I figured out the cheap of carber thing. I really think that's just misidentification, and it's that Tasmanian tiger the settlers brought here in the twenties and thirties, and then they thought they killed it. They wiped it out. I think that's all that is. So you know, most of these quote unquote mythical creatures right are cryptos cryptids, cryptos cryptids. I just kind of always look for a logical reason, like a lot of people do, to explain, you know, werewolf being at the top of my list, because I don't want them to be real. So we're coming home from Louisville back to Harrison County and we're traveling through this little small town called Georgetown. Broad daylight, three pm, right, beautiful sunny day. We've got our windows down. We're cruising along I'm in the passenger side of the car, and I'm just looking out at everybody's pretty yards and landscaping and stuff as we're passing through. And the very last house on the edge, the very far edge of town, has this little water fountain out in the front and there was a werewolf, I swear to god, a werewolf drinking up on two legs, drinking from this water fountain thing that's in this brick circular, you know, like landscaping deal in the front yard. And I'm just like, what the I just saw a werewolf. And my husband at the time said, no way where And I'm like, right there at that house. So he, of course he turns around and goes back because he wants to see too, And so he turns around and we go right back and we go past it, and yeah, it's still sitting there on two legs, drinking from this water fountain right and we're like, holy crap, that really is like its legs are bent the right way, and you know, it's back legs don't bend like our knees do they They've been the opposite direction, you know, like a big wolf or a dog would. But his hands, his hands are what struck me when we saw him the second time because he had one hand on each side of the circular brick thing whatever you call all that right that wall that's around the fountain. I know what you're meaning. Yeah, And his hands looked manish, right, like I say manish, but they had hair down the tops of them, the backs of them, right, and he had it. To me from that distance, which was probably one hundred and fifty two hundred yards, it looked like long black fingernails, like he had painted fingernails, right. And I remember thinking that that he looks like he has painted fingernails, and that looks like man hands. And that really rattled me because then and like at that point, I'm like, Okay, these things really are real. What am I going to do with that knowledge? Like, I don't that's not cool. And that's only fifteen miles from where I live that we saw this. This was this was in two thousand and sixteen, okay, And it really really rattled me bad. You know, I was scared to let my kids go outside if it was you know, if we were in a wooded area, I was. It really scared me bad. It messed with me. I feel it had a tail, yes, I mean, like traditional its body looked like a wolf, right, but it and its head was shaped like a wolf, but like a morphed man's wolf face, if that even makes sense, because it looked half man half wolf in its face. And I don't even like, I don't even know how to really explain that, except to say that its eyes looked human, bigger than ours, but human. They looked human, right, They looked intelligent, I guess you could say, and it had it had like a muzzle type nostril area, but still almost manish looking. And I mean, it just messed me up to see this, because I mean, like I've watched those movies like The Island of Doctor Moreau, you know, things like that, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know how something like that could really exist. I just don't see how that would be feasible. And then to see it just really rocked my whole world. So then I kind of put it out of my mind after a while. And by twenty nineteen, I was living in the country in Elizabeth, Indiana, and I was a smoker, so I would go outside to smoke, and I'm outside on the deck smoking. The first time was in broad daylight. I was out on the deck smoking, and from my neighbor's house across the road, in their backyard, it sounded just like that traditional movie type sound of a man transforming into a werewolf, like the bone crackling kind of a sound and the yell. And I'm just thinking, I'm not gonna I'm not going to go straight to this is a werewolf. I'm thinking that the neighbor must be a murderer, right, and he's killing people in his backyard. That's what's happening, because this can't be a werewolf. How crazy is that that. I would rather think that than to believe it's a werewolf, But that is where my mind wanted to go with it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, this ain't no, this ain't your traditional werewolf transforming. That's not what this is. That's probably some crazy man that lives over there and he's murdering people. That was my Rationaley guess, I guess. So, I you know, I go back in and tell everybody in the house what I just heard. Of course, they go out to listen, and it's not it's not doing it anymore. Because I stood there and listened to the whole thing happening, trying to figure out what I was hearing. So, you know, a couple of days go by, I'm out on the deck again smoking. This time it's at night, and one of my older daughters is out there with me, who's old enough to smoke. Just for everybody's knowledge, she was old enough to smoke. We were out there smoking and we heard that same sound that I heard a few days before that sounded like bone crackling, snapping, breaking apart. Man yelling like you could just envision it right from the sound. You're here, and you can just totally see this picture in your mind of this guy transforming into a werewolf because of these sounds. It sounded so classic to the movies. It was unreal. And I'm like, this cannot I'm like, this can't be real, right, tell me, this is not real. Tell me we're imagining this right now. And she's like, no, mom, we're hearing this, and she gets her phone out and starts recording it on audio so that we've got the audio pre which I still have somewhere, so you know, she's scared. I'm scared. We decided we don't really need that cigarette so much. Anyway, we put cigarette out early and we go back in lock the doors. But of course we're still smokers, so we're still having to go out day or night if we want a cigarette. And from then on, everybody would always go out in teams. And there were six of us that lived here in this house together, but we would always go out in pairs. You know. Nobody ever went out alone anymore after that. So this one night, we actually saw three wolves, real wolves, walking down the road, kind of spaced out between each of them as we're standing out there smoking. And we thought that was pretty weird too, because what are the odds that you would see wolves in Indiana? Number one? Real wolves. I didn't know that they're worry any The closest we had was coyote, in my opinion, I didn't know. But we clearly saw three wolves and they walked by, and within ten minutes of them walking past down the road, in the woods behind us, we heard this big scary howl, and those particular three wolves actually got their hackles up about it, like, clearly, this other wolf, howan thing, don't belong with them, and they actually went through the woods very stealthily. I think that's how you say that stealthily toward that sound, and I don't know what happened after that. We didn't hear anything else after that except some limbs breaking brush kind of noises from the ground. No, we didn't hear no kind of fighting or anything over that one. But they were definitely out there seeing what that was. And it was a clear indicator to us, my point being here, it was a clear indicator to us that this was not just some wolf in the woods that belongs with a pack of wolves. This was some lone ranger that they didn't like, you know, because they you could it was visibly clear that they did not like what they heard either, and it actually felt comforting to me. I was like, yeah, go get them doggy, you know, go protect us please from this thing, because I that's something I don't want anything to do with. And so after we had that series of events, and that went on for an entire summer. But I lived there hearing this thing carrying on out there all hours of the day and night. So I moved from there. I didn't stay there long because that place was creepy, and moved back to northern Harrison County and was telling some people that I know about what we had experienced there. And they said, oh, well, let us tell you we have seen a werewolf two And like, really you have and they're like yeah. And they live in Milltown, Indiana, in Crawford County, but they have an a frame house that's got the big glass windows all up the side of it, you know. And she said, yeah. We were getting ready for bed one night and I was laying in the bed and the husband was in the bathroom brushing his teeth or whatever, getting ready to get in bed, and she said she heard some kind of claw and sound on the glass up near the cathedral ceiling, and she looked up and she could see what looked like claws or something. Probably I don't know how tall their ceilings worked in or twelve feet, and it was maybe three feet from the ceiling that she was seeing this claw. And she was like, I couldn't understand how something could be, you know, reaching that high, because no, there's no nothing to step on outside the house there. And she said, so then I looked, I went to look through the glass windows themselves to see what's out there, and she said there was a werewolf standing outside of her bedroom in this great big glass window with his hands outstretched above, his head, just prussed up against the glass, looking at her, watching her as she laid in her bed, And of course she screamed, and her husband comes running out and he sees it, and he yells, and he grabs his shotgun and goes through the house and out the door, and of course, by the time he got out there, you know, this thing had already gotten down on four legs and took off. But you know, once you see something like that, you don't forget it. You know that's not something you can ever erase from your mind, and it forever changes you, like forever changes you, especially if it's looking at you and your dag on bed. I would not be cool with that. That would be freaky. I've heard a lot of different reports about these things, and for the most part, people aren't saying they're werewolves. They're referred to home as dog men. And but don't you think that's the same thing. I I lean that way to an extent. I don't. I don't necessarily know one way or the other what any of this stuff is, because me being a skeptical type of person, I want to say none of it's real because it doesn't make any sense. But I know what I saw, so I can't say that they're not real because I literally saw a two legged or an upright walking look like a black wolf like and it was walking. Yeah cool, I mean scary, but cool. That whole experience, Like I said, I can talk to you all air about it, but that whole experience is why I do what I do, and gotcha because it changes you done it it makes you really question a lot of things. Yeah, yeah, it does. So when that's what my fascination. When you mentioned were wolf like, I've always wondered if people depicted as were wolves weren't whatever these creatures are. And I don't know if it's a human transferring into this wolf figure or if they're not something else to just have the ability to do that. But what I saw did not have the stereotypical werewolf features. It didn't have hands with a claw. It literally had like normal animal paws and everything about it looked like a normal war really dog thing. But it was able to stand up and walk on two legs like a human, and its front shoulders or front arms or whatever hung down like a person's would. Right, very strange, maybe there is something different about a dog man than a werewolf, but most people always assume it's the same thing. Most people say that when they see these things, they have all these humanoid features, and what I saw did not have. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, And I actually know a lady that she says the same thing. She's like, no, it looked straight up like a dog. It just walks on its hind legs, and it's much larger than a dog. I mean, she calls them dog man too, you know, And she's absolutely convinced it has no humanoid features. It looks just like a dag on dog just walks up right. I'm drawing a blank. I don't remember if someone and the sound benaf was on my own show, but I remembered hearing something recently, and it may have been someone else's show, but someone had said that they had seen a dog walking around their vehicles on their hind legs and they thought it was strange because they didn't know what it could have possibly been. And every time they looked at it like just a normal dog walking on its back legs, like it wasn't no big deal. I was like, that's weird. Oh, that is weird. So I don't know if I don't remember, like if they just described it as like a wolf looking dog or like the German shepherd's style or whatever, but they just I remember that someone's saying they've seen a dog walking between vehicles and it was walking on its hind legs. I just do you know, do you know much about skinwalkers? I know it's more of a Navaho thing. A lot of people throw that term around out in here and stuff that originated over out west, when the whole Navaho tribe type thing like their medicine men and their lord to it. Yeah, well, I think true to me, a true wind to go or a true rake or skin walker, which are all the same thing, just different words. Is this creepy white thing that basically looks like a humanoid figure that can take the shape it can transform and take the shape of other things like a shape shifter? Right, And I personally would have never believed that this is a real thing. I too would have and did always think that there's going to be some kind of logical explanation behind that. But I know that people have said, you know, if a goat is walking up on its hind legs, that it could be a skinwalker that took it, took possession of the goat. So that's what I was getting to with that dog, the normal dog walking upright, Maybe that was a skinwalker type of you know, body snatcher thing going on. And I actually do believe that that is a real thing at this point, and actually just became a believer literally four days ago, literally four days ago, because to my knowledge, nobody around here has ever seen anything like that, other than maybe in haunted houses sometimes or something they might claim to see one. But as I said, my brother lives next door, and I was actually walking over to his house to take his cell phone back to him because he had left it here after he had dinner, and it was dark outside, and I just waltzed out the door with his cell phone in my hand, no big deal, no flashlight, no gun, no nothing, you know, started over there, got halfway there, and I stopped dead in my tracks because first I thought I saw a great, big white dog with like big brown patches on it. That's what I thought I saw first. And you know, like the size of a one of them big the big dogs with the barrel around their neck. Yeah, I thought it was like a big Saint Bernard or something. Of course, nobody in my neighborhood has such a dog. But that's what I thought I was looking at, and so I paused, like I saw the full length of its body. It was actually not facing toward me. It looked like it was walking, you know, like from right to left of the direction I was facing. And I stopped dead in my tracks. And when I looked again really hard, because I mean, it's dark. There's no outside lights on or anything. It was just moonlight. When I looked again the second time, I looked real hard, it looked like a damn rake. I mean, it looked like a humanoid creature down on like squat, down on all fours, looking toward me, but still walking the scene. You're like, walk in the same direction, just down on all fours, you know, very long front arms, very weird shaped curve to its back. And even in that moment, I'm like, nah, that's not what I'm seeing, but I ain't sticking around to make sure, right, So I turned around, I came back in the house, got my flashlight, got my gun, and went back out again because I'm still gonna take my brother's cell phone, right, I mean, I'm a country girl. I'm not scared of a whole lot of things. As long as I got a weapon on me, I'm usually cool. So I go back and my cousin is my roommate, and she's like, what are you doing? And like, out, no, I thought I saw a creature or something out there, So I'm just gonna be safe, you know, heading across the path. And normally she wouldn't even get up and come out behind me. She would just say here and do her own thing, right, But for whatever reason, she decided she needed to come out there too. And I didn't know she'd walked out the door right behind me, but she stepped out on the porch and was watching. And I get about halfway across the yard and she says, wait, wait, wait, stop, stop stop. I thought I just saw a big dog And I said, do you what and she described the exact same kind of dog that I thought I saw at first, and I'm like, yeah, okay, I'm not going over there. I was like, forget about it. Now, I'm a believer. Skin walkers could probably be real. Now, I'm a believer because she thought she saw the same thing I saw, and I and like I'm not on drugs. I'm not drunk, you know, like, there's no reason for me to hallucinate. So whatever I saw was not natural and I can't explain it. And so now they're on the top of my list with werewoofs of things I wish didn't really exist. There's probably a lot of things out there that exist that we don't really know about, we don't want to know about, to be honest, true, and I'm hoping most of those stay off of my list. That I've always been skeptical on a lot of things, be sinus I've been doing this show, and the more people I've talked to and the more things I've looked into, and just from my own personal experiences with stuff, it is very hard to try and remain skeptical and yet keep an open mind. Because before years ago, I never had an experience or anything like that, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. But if someone were to tell me some of the stuff that people tell me today, back then, I'd be like, these people are crazy. No, I'm not that way. I'm just like, yeah, probably true, because at this rate, like, who am I to tell someone that whatever they've experienced isn't right or real or whatever, because my own stuff doesn't make any sense to me? Is how can I tell somebody else that they're wrong? Right? That's what That's one of my biggest pet peeves I have is when people want to argue with someone else because someone's telling you their experience is. Whether I believe it or not, or whether someone else believes it or not, that's up to them. That's not my job here to prove or disprove anyone. But when people get upset that and they want to start arguing with people about well, this can't be real, this isn't true, it's like, well, are you guys there? It might sound crazy to the normal person, but if you're not there to witness it, how are you going to tell someone what they experience isn't true? Right? I don't know. One of my one of my pet peeves I guess anymore is I see comments and I hear things or others and it's just like whatever, I try and tone out the negativity. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, really, who are we to judge? You know, we don't know for sure, and it's not it's not fair, honestly, knowing about Bigfoot and The ridicule that people get for believing in Bigfoot and knowing about Bigfoot is not fair. Right. There are some very credible people who know for a fact that Bigfoot exists, and they get treated like they're idiots or are just absolutely ridiculous or you know, scaredy cats or whatever, and that's just not fair. Same goes for people that have claimed alien abduction and seeing UFOs. They get ridiculed and treated very poorly as well. And that's why it's so important to me now to find those connections and help pull this together for everybody as a community, because we need to know that this is real, so that all those people can get the support that people like I never got, right. I think that's a very very important thing and a good thing for us to do for humanity is to help those people out. Because some people have experienced some really horrendous things that it's so taboo to talk about. They can't even come forward and tell their closest people that they've experienced this, and that's really sad to me. That's really really sad. I feel like that's one of the things that I try and do here is I I want to give everyone the chance to come on here and talk about things that they normally couldn't talk about, because yeah, normal society has that stigma to where if you talk about these taboo type subjects, people are going to look at you like you're weird and craziest. Why I never talked about what happened to me for fifteen years, and at some point it's beneficial, I think, for people to actually be able to talk about something, especially if it's bothered them for so long. Like I know for a fact, like I say, it didn't bother me, but the fact that I knew I saw something weird, I never talked about it, and I ended up doing a podcast to talk to people about it. Like clearly I had some sort of an impact on that. I don't say it's like traumatic, but it's like, yeah, it set me off with this trajectory or the path or whatever you want to call it. What I'm doing now, and I'm trying to just give people a place to come on and talk about things, because you can't normally just go up with the work. One day'd be like, hey man, I saw some weird shit last night. They're going to look at him like lost his nuts off his Rocker. I think we need to tell Joe over here needs to go take one of them p tests because he's talking some crazy stuff, you know, or send him to therapy or something. Yeah and yeah, with me being a spiritual counselor you know, I've always tried to help people to heal from their childhood traumas or whatever. You know, these issues are that they have in their life so that they can have healthier relationships and I better relationship with their self and understand clear boundaries. And it hit me one day. You know, the UFO community, the Bigfoot community, they could all use somebody like that in their corner to help them heal and integrate what they have experienced into their life and accept it. You know, because it's no different than when I say, okay, like you've got a childhood trauma. Well, you know what if I told you that you actually agreed on some level, through some type of contract or something before you came here to this life, that you would take on this, this and this so that your soul could grow from it, or your soul could contribute to society in this direction, or whatever that may be for you. Right, So what if we actually on some level agreed to experience this, and so that, you know, when people kind of look at it that way, it's a little easier to see it from a new perspective, to heal from it and release it. Right, No different than if you've got an alien experience or a bigfoot experience. That was something that was clearly meant for you to experience, for you to be the person that you now are, Like you with your werewolf and you know here you are doing podcasts and helping people. Now, that was clearly something that was on your path for a reason, right, Like all, we all have these things, and it's just about being able to see it from a new perspective so that we're not feeling traumatized or we don't feel victimized, and we can take our power back and wholly embrace who we are and what we've been through, you know, walk proudly in that. And so I commend you for what you do, you know, because normally I'm not the one telling my story. I'm letting other people tell theirs. Right, I commend you for what you're doing. I think we need more people like you and me in the world. Yeah, when I started this, my whole idea wasn't to do what I'm doing now, to be honest, like, my original idea was developed back in twenty twenty when the world was kind of shut down for a while, and also was meant to be Yeah, I was talking about a lot of weird things that were going on. We had a lot of different ideas. I was kicking around. I was like, you know what, I want to make a podcast. I'm going to talk about all the strange things that's going on in the world. I want to talk about things that have happened before. I want to talk about like a lot of conspiracies and a lot of the weird stuff like with UFOs. And I started, I said, tenfoil teals. Obviously if you're a tenfoil person, like you wear a tenfoil hat because you're a conspiracy theorists, and we're going to talk about conspiracies and the stories behind these conspiracies that I come up with ten foil teals. It's not like a great all the time. I love it, I love it, I love your name. I said on it for like two years and I didn't do anything with it, and then I finally said, Melissa isn't going to pan out the way I thought, I'm just going to start interviewing people. And I had that experience back in two thousand and seven, and I was like, you know what, maybe I can talk to other people. And that's just kind of where I went from it from there, just because the original idea was again not so much to interview people. It was more or less for me and a friend to talk about a lot of weird stuff. Yeah, And for whatever reason, I just got the urge to talk to other people because I was like, maybe talking to other people will help me understand what I've went through and maybe'll help other people so they don't feel like I did. Yeah. Yeah, And that's right. When we talk to each other, we connect dots, because right off the bat, as soon as we started talking, we were already connecting dots. And we need to open that dialogue so that we can all understand because none of us have it all figured out. You know, I don't feel like there's a true expert in any of it. We're all just like learning as we go. I've literally said that too. It's like if anyone comes around and says they're an expert in this type a field, they're full of crap, because there is no experts when it comes to things that you can't improve exist right. Yeah, they're full of something, probably ego to think they're an expert, and I think I have my own opinions on things that I'll be leave it at that, Like when it comes to different podcast it comes to different experts, it comes to these self described like know what all people, I'm like, whatever you guys, bang on your chest all you want and people eat it up. That's I'm just here to do my thing, keep my head down, right, Yeah, I'm with you. There no point in throwing shade at anybody. Is there anything else you would like to discuss? We've been going on for about an Hour's where I usually try and keep the episodes too, so I didn't know if there anything you want to touch base on before we wrap this up. No, I think we're good here. We can leave it here, but I would like to share with you sometime my experience with the reptilian. I mean, I've got time if you want to talk about it. Well, it's kind of a long story, so okay, Well I'm going to have you back on again to talk about that one on a future episode. Okay, that would be cool. Yeah, it's uh. I'm always going to be needing to talk about things here for get people the place to talk. So, like I said, I looked out for a while, but maybe later on the summer I can reach back out because I've got a couple other people. I'm supposed to have them back on the show again here soon too. Yeah. Absolutely, But now we'll work our schedules out and get back together and do this again. This was fun. Yeah, I definitely appreciate you coming on here. You want to let everyone know again where your YouTube channel, what it's called, where they can find you up. Okay, so my YouTube channel is called Deja Brew at Beacon News seven seven seven, and actually it's like Dayja Brew paranormal research blah blah blah. But if you just put in the at Beacon New seven seven seven, you'll find me. My website is earthsonglovecraft dot com and I offer all kinds of services there and I even have a financial aid for people who are on lower incomes so that nobody gets left behind. Because I'm in the business of healing souls, releasing souls, and freeing souls. That's my gig. I want us all to be truly free and truly happy, and I just happen to have that piece of the puzzle to share with people, so I'm glad to do it and say, whatever links you have or anything like that, you can send to me, and then I will include all that in my show notes. I say that in a lot of my episodes, and people go to the show notes and there's no links in there. It's because no one ever sends me the links. Right, Well, I will send you my links. So it's not that I'm not trying to help people out or put them in there, and it's it's just like I to say, hey, send me that's oh, we'll get it to you, and they never do, and then the episode comes out and like I tried, I offered right right now, I got you. And a lot of people you know on there depends if they're not networking and busy, you know, the way we are all the time, maybe they just don't even think to do that or don't know how to do that, you know, so you know it might be a little complicated for them. Yeah, say, it's been a pleasure tonight. Definitely enjoyed talking with you. And I'll make sure to get back with you here in a couple months and try and get you back on here sometime later this summer so we can chat some more. I would love it. And maybe you would like for me to interview you and you can be on my show sometime. Yeah, sounded great, I got I can let you know about some of the weird things I've got going on here. I would love to hear some of your stories. All right, Well, you take care of Thank you you too. It's a pleasure being on. And that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of tenfoiltl dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. Thank you all for joining us on this journey, and until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown. Good night, everyone sends on Sounds in the Headstones. Yeah, it's turn to rock. Got a story? About a crypty creature. Let's take a walk. Thanks foot Umer. They're out there in the talk, but the truth is out there, likely as fuck of both sightings got the whole world show conspiracies and folds like a story in the book. Control trying to keep us fine. 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