Ep. 107: The Alien Hunter with Derrel Sims

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tels. I'm your host, Brandon Wright. Nice episode. We're gonna be joined by my guest. You may know who he is. He's often been referred to as the Alien Hunter. And I'll be joined by mister Darryl Simms. Darryl has many, many years of being a investigator when it comes to the alien phenomena. 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You can find more information about all those events in the show notes. But I think now it's time to bring on mister Simms. Definitely excited to talk to him. I was recently watching a show and he ended up popping up on it, So it's kind of interesting to talk to someone that I've seen on TV on a lot of different things. So hope you guys enjoy the conversation, Sit back, relax and enjoy the show. Like to take the time and welcome my guest tonight, Darryl Simms, the alien Hunter world famous. Thanks for being here. It's my pleasure to be here, my pleasure to have you you. I had a couple of people recommend me to reach out to you, and strangely enough, like recognized your face, but I couldn't place it where I've seen you on different shows or whatever. And then I was just watching a Netflix show last week and then the episode came up and I was like, Hey, that's what and I'm interviewing him next week, so that's funny. Yeah, but now, do you want to let the audience know a little bit about yourself? Sure that I'm a Daryl Sims. I'm was referred to as alien hunter. That was a Monarker game given to me by a journalist. She was interviewing me back in nineteen ninety two or ninety three, and she said, oh my god, you hunt him what You're an alien hunter? And that's where the whole thing came from. So I said, well, that's true. I said, I've a ex police officer, the senior military police officer during the Vietnam War, volunteered during the war itself, and been an abductee since age four, kept that information private and out of the off the press for a long long time. And then my events ended thirteen years later when rather violently at age seventeen. And after that no further events occurred of any significance. But the problem was when I was married and we had a son and a daughter and a son, and my son got abducted when he was six years old. That changed me literally from a concerned father to the alien hunter. I them that hunted me, and I want to know who's doing what with my son, And things that happened to me were unmentionable, and I just I did not want that for my kids. So anyway, that's what got me into the field, so to speak, with both guns going, so to speak. And I spent two years in central intelligence safety and covered operations when I was in the Vietnam War. And so I have a strong policing background, a good investigative background, and so in a nutshell, that's pretty much where I come from. And what's going on with me. I know you've had like many many cases you've been involved with, and I know you have some like the artifacts that people had removed from their skin or whatever, like the implants or whatever. What is some of the weirdest stuff that you've actually have, like that you've come across the people had removed from them Because I actually had an interview was one of the first ones I had done with a doctor from Greece and someone had sent him something and he did like the scientific research on it, for the compounds or whatever, and how it's all put together, and he had some pretty compelling information about Let me set this up if I may, that my investigative system, so the people will be familiar with that from the get go. Whenever I investigate a case regards to whether it's someone who claims to be abducted or a case of something that they found inside themselves or their doctor did that doesn't belong there, there's a whole procedure in the system that we use, and I call it my seven hats, the supreme Court of my investigations. What that simply means is that I use a different hat for each investigation. The UFO hat that every all of us have, so to speak, is a good and a fun hat to have. But the problem is it gets fooled easily. We've had people in the UFO community come in and make up stories and fool people for years. And because we're wearing a UFO had, it's not that discerning. It's a fun hat to have, so to speak. We all have it, but it's not a good investigative hat. So the hat that I use for investigation. The second hat is what I call my cop hat. That's the policing skill as a detective, and it's much more coherent. It doesn't necessarily believe your story. It just believes your facts. And it's a really good hat because it goes to the core of good investigative techniques. The next hat would be a medical hat. That simply means that if in your case, somehow or another, there was some kind of medical evidence, you have unusual cut scars, bruises and so on, or like one runner that came to me one time and he said, I've got this two inch by four inch missing section of skin on my back and I can't figure out how that happened. I went running and I have missing time, and then all of a sudden, I'm back and there's this two inch by four inch missing I've got a scar there. How the world do you get a scar and not even know it when you're out running? So I said, that's an excellent question. So I had some of my medical people check him as well. And the medical hat is really important in that particular case because it uses a different type of logic than cops do. Medical hat like your doctor when you go in they ask you certain questions, they use Abaysian logic. That logic is the logic that doctors use to describe ask you questions about your conditions so on, and that's how they come to their conclusions about how to give you a proper treatment. Then the next hat we use out of the seven is number four, which is a science hap. In other words, if we removed an object from you on you in your UFO event, which we have conducted twenty seven surgical intervention today from India to the United States, the next thing we're going to do with that material after the medical part is done, is to take that and put the science had on, so to speak, and that's where it goes to the top scientists that we want to investigate it in theory the science had is. It's really important because it's going to give us the literally the physical makeup, exactly what's there, and we're going to find it, whether it's whether it's real, whether it's not real, whether it's pencil lead that was accidentally pun stabbed into your hand from when you're playing with a friend with pencils in school, and that's in some cases we found that it was nothing more than pencil lead graphite that was still under their skin. Because they were an abductee, they thought, well, that has to be an alien implant. That's not necessarily true. That's why all these hats are important. The fifth hat is an intelligence This is where I was in the Central Intelligence Agency. It wants to know what's really going on. And the part I don't like about that hat is it lies. It lies all the time. If you've been in an intelligence community, that's the name of the game. In other words, we call them cover stories. The cover story for Roswell Roswell crashed you up boat was it's a weather balloon. Well it's a lie. It's just that's not true, and was proved wrong. Then they created another one, and then another one, another one, and all about the same UFO story. But that's what the intelligence community does. They want to know what it is, but they're never going to tell you what they've feild. That's the good part about the hat is it gets past the the emotions and of what is that? And oh my gosh, you know I've been abducted and so on. They want they're going to get to other realms of questioning that these their hats are not going to get to. That's why I like that hat, but I don't like the impact. That's why I quit the Central intellviensis. Because the lies number six is a Native American. I call it Native American, Irish Celtic cat And what does that mean. It means that it uses the historical uses of understandings of shamanism and those ancient techniques of their investigative circumstance from Native American to Scottish Irish. Because fifty percent of our people excuse me, forty five percent of people taken in these UFO events or Native American, in Irish, Scottish or Celtic. That's just fact. That is an astounding number of people in specific genres. The last hat is a spiritual hat. The spiritual hat can include, but it's you. It's beyond the idea of religion made or hosted by mankind, and it's more than psychic and intuition. It's a hat that's almost never used in the UFO community, and I think it's a huge mistake because anybody that says this phenomena, for John well A is a good example, not a religious man, but will clearly tell you there's something going on, far bigger than our science is telling us, and far bigger than we can understand on the other levels. And he hints very strongly it's interdimensional or even spiritual. It's something beyond our purview of understanding. So those seven hats are the ones they use. So when people ask me a question, I literally go through those hats almost immediately and figure out which hat needs to answer the question. Because if you're in a medical field, I'm going to pretty much put a medical hat. If you're in the investigator feel the cop, I'm going to put my cop head, and so on and so on. In most cases, I won't use a UFO hat, And the reason is because if I do, and then I use statements like well, I feel well that your feelings don't mean anything, right, What's what's really going on? This is phenomenal. That's a you're you're you're you're cutting your own throat so speed and how you feel about it is that's a personal feeling. But that has nothing to do with evidence or the evidentiary methods of investigation. So, uh, that's number one. Number two is what are some of the weirdest thing I've found? Well, Uh, this is going to get at a little interesting. And I think the word ten poilve uh kind of gets it here because a TV show last year called me there about every time they want to do a series on TV shows and so on, they'll come around they'll say, we want to do a TV show and we want you to be the chief investigator. And I said, why me, Well, you're giving us credit. I said, you're not answering the question. Why are you calling me? Well, because we want to study alien phenomenon and things like that in Texas, and because I live in Texas, you think I'm automatically qualified. I mean you don't even know what my background is. Well, you're the alien hunter. That's all we need to know. I said, no, it's not. It's if you want a good showed last more than six months, you need to know a little more than that. Well, we have a scientist that's going to be on there, and we have a lady that's a tracker. I said, I would need to question him and I need to question her. Well, they're trackers and there are a scientists. I said, you're not listening to me. You don't have a clue. I'm trying to help you out and save you a lot of money in embarrassment. Here. If your scientist is not skilled in certain areas, he's going to be useless. The tracker. I need to know exactly what she can track and what she can't track. Well, she's a professional, I said, you're not listening to me. You don't know anything about it. I will as soon as I talked to her, as soon as I see her skills, I'll know how good a tracker she is or not. And I said, would you like me to give you an illustration? He said, certainly. I said, we have a thing in Texas called the Texas blue Dog. There's another name for it's called Texas chupacabua. I've heard of that. I said, You're you're never going to learn with your mouth open. You learned with your mouth closed. Whenever you're hearing something you don't know anything about. I said, I'm not being rude. I'm just trying to shorten this whole interview because it's not going to happen. It's what do you mean? I said? He said, so you know all about the Texas cubicabra and I said, I have one in my freezer. What what what? I said? There? You you got your UFO hat back on. You're not asking the right questions, you're not doing the right thing. Well, what is that saying? I said, Well, now I don't know. I said, that's why it's in a freezer, because we're going to do in the cropsy on it and find out exactly what it is at a university level. We're going to put the science ad on and find out exactly what it is. Because I don't know what it is, I said. I've had professional hunters for friends of mine telling me, oh, I can tell you what that is right now, I said, how do you know that? Well, but I'm just tell you it's a it's a coute that inner bread with a dog. I said, how can you psychically pick up all this information? Never have seen it, never seen the body, never seen anything. Don't know the DNA, don't know any of it, and automatically you know what it is. You're not going to make a very good cop. I can tell you that it's not going to happen. I said, you're just setting yourself up to be debunked. So he says, well, well that is. And what the amusing thing about it. The man's a really good hunter and he knows he knows hunting, and in fact, he does something that's hunting for the state of Texas. And I said, but you haven't seen it, so you can't make a determination yet, not really. Well, I think that's what it is. And I said, think doesn't make fact. I could think it's it's a dead dog too, and that doesn't make it anything. That's not proof of anything. I said, so you're not using you're not using your medical hat here, and well, I'm a hunter, and I said, you're still missing the port. You're missing it barn by fifteen yards here. And his wife was sitting there smiling because she's an assistant with me in the UFO field and she's been through dozens of conferences with me, and she knows where this is going. And she just kind of shook her head and smiled and didn't said word, kind of looked off at the ceiling, and she said, here it comes. And so I said, I'm going to do something for you I've not done for other people. And he said, what's that? So I'm gonna show you pictures of it. He looks at it and says, oh my god, look at the teeth on that thing. What is that? That's well, it's not a Kyle, I can tell you that. So anyway, that's that. But that's typical of the kind of the way we have to have to use my seven hats to talk to people because you don't know where they're coming from when when they ask things like that. Your the idea is not to insult people. But by the same token, I'm not going to let them insult my research with I feel like it's this, I know it's that, and I just I'm just not going to do that in them. And I believe me, I've got some very well intentioned people. One of them was a PhD on a program and he was interviewing me and he says, forty five percent of people taking a Native American and Irish celty. Oh my god. He said, the reason is because I said, I thought this was an interview you wanted to interview. Well, I do. I said, why are you answering all the questions as if you actually knew the answer. Well, the reason they're the aliens making up Native Americans is because they're all spiritual. I said, you don't have a clue about anything. Do PhD gone to school and you still don't have a clue. I said, you're not an investigator. There's no question about that. It's what you mean. I said, Well, I said, I am what some people refer to as ametis that's part blood Native. And I said, so what that means is if you know anything about Native Americans, and I do a bit. I said. The interesting thing about them is that in the seventeen eighteen hundreds, if you went on their land because you wanted to learn more about the Indians or whatever, your chances of getting a really close haircut are excellent. They're not going to be friendly with you. Not because they're spiritual, but because this is how they deal with people who don't belong in their land, and they deal with each other in the same brutal ways. That's just the truth of it. I said, my people are referred to their enemies called us the Cherokee. Well, I know all about the Cherokee, I said, our enemies still call us the same thing, so they don't know who we are yet. I said, our people are called Enna, and we are and like I said that, the term Cherokee means people who speak another speech. We came from the north and came down to the south and literally took it over from the tribes that were there and the so called of the four Cibolized tribes and did a lot of uh, a lot of interaction like that. I said, my point to you, sir, is that that's not why the alien is picking up Native Americans. And he said, well, they're there. They go. They went after the UH and and and picked up the UH the Irish too, So that's because they're spiritual. I said, have you ever been to uh Notre Dame No, I said, on the front, there's a big sign there it says the fighting Irish. Doesn't sound very spiritual, does it, I said, Busting heads and taking names, it's what my people have done all their generations. Scots, I'm Scottish Irish Native American. What do you think that means? Why? Do you think somebody like me would volunteer during the Vietnam War? Are you getting a hint? This is what we did. I didn't like the war. I didn't want I don't like anything about war. But if we're going to go to war and our boys are going to get killed coming out of high school becoming targets for bit tongue is a good example, I'm going to be there to make sure they at least some of them come back because I can do a lot better than they can. And that's the kind of people. If you're going to war, you go to win. You don't go to fight. You don't go to win, you don't go to make attrition. You go to win. That's the point. Get it over with, get that, get back and get home with a minimum casultis that's the point I said. Now that has been lost in the American thinking and the last since Vietnam, and we've just been in these forever wars and there's no point in it. But just there's you can't do that, I said. So, So the alien, in my opinion, is not picking us up. Because we're spiritual, because we're kind, we're sweet, we're good, we like ice, cream or whatever. I said, it's clear to me, sir, that you don't have a clue what the alien's even up to historically or otherwise. Well, they've been here forever, I said, as a matter of fact, they have it. This particular program called abduction started about two hundred years ago, macts maximum two hundred years. I said. If you knew anything about the phenomena, you would already know that. And again I'm not here to insult him, just here to let you know that you need to ask your questions and you need to be quiet because you probably don't know the answers. That's probably the reason I'm here. And if it isn't, then I should be gone. I should get you should run a show, I said, because you will probably know more about it than me. That's the case, I would gladly be quiet. Let you go ahead with your interview and talk to yourself. So the basic thing about the questions is and I try to illustrate this as well as possible in the beginning of interviews. These seven hats are all really really wonderful tools to have, and when I do presentations in conferences, I ask people please try on at least one of these hats while you're here, put on the coppat for just a little while, just for this hour presentation. It's an illustration. And I said, when you do, you're going to learn how to ask questions and probe questions and interview people in ways that you didn't have, and you're going to get answers you never thought were possible. You're going to find out a lot more about the alien that you ever dreamed. Because if you ask people dumb questions like do you believe in aliens? That's kind of dumb, because who cares whether you or me or I or anybody believe in aliens? That doesn't mean anything and is going to give us any answers to anything at all. And so we have to ask real questions like who are they? Why are they here? When did this actually start? Well, they've been here forever. You assume that, Like when lady told me, oh, the Aliens are just so, there are millions of light years ahead of us, And I said, Sweeny, help me out here. Could I just don't get it. How do you know the Aliens are light years ahead of us technologically because they had these wonderful spaceships? I said, didn't have big black eyes, and they look weird. That makes them superior to us. Why do I not believe that? I said, that doesn't prove anything to me, And in fact, it brings up a whole load of questions that we need to be asking. How does their morphology work? Where does the morphology come from? Are they from Zeta Particula? Are they from Mars? Are they from here? Those are the kind of questions we need to be asking. Well, they're from Zeta Reticula, And I said, how do you know? Have you been there lately? Where do you think? Well, they told they tell us. That's what I said. Now, if I wanted to fool you and I was from Germany, but I wanted you to think that I was from uh China, I would probably do some Chinese things to speak Chinese a little bit make you think I was from China. I said, My point is they're not telling you the truth. Well I think that, I said, Okay, think and believe and feel these are good terms, but they don't apply to investigation. Because your your belief's going to change a bunch. You must, because you're going to learn things that you weren't prepared for. She's like, what, And I said, well, okay, let's have some plenty here. So the aliens light years ahead of us because they what, well, because they had these wonderful spaceships. And I said, okay, that's that's the fair statement. Let's see if it's accurate or not. I said, so you think they're light years ahead of us because they what? She's well, they made their spaceships. And I said, do you realize that many of these alien entities have three fingers and no opposing thumb? What do you mean? How do you build anything without an opposing thumb and three fingers? What kind of spaceships do you suppose you could build if we had to remove your thumb and one of your fingers. I don't think you're going to build much of anything. Well, what are you saying? I said. What I'm telling you is you're not asking the right questions. That's all. I said. Somebody built those ships for them. I totally agreed, But it wasn't them. I mean, that's that's that's like saying, you know your your eighth grade class and go out and build a flying saucer that can fly across the universe. That sounds good. Because they're real smart. But it doesn't there's no evidence of that. I said, So to me, if I were you, I would ask other questions that are more interesting, like who built them, where did they come from? What? Why does he look like he does? I said. When I was abducted at age four, when that entity came through the wall, and I sat up on my bed stunned, looking at him, I said, I have better questions than you're asking now, she's what do you mean? I said, who is that? What? Little kids? Or they make kind of good investigators because they asked the right questions. She's like what, and I said. I looked at him. I started from the top of his head. Noticed he didn't have any hair, looked at his big brown, perfected round inch nap across black eyes. Noticed he didn't have a nose, He had two little pinholes. He didn't have any ears that were external. He had a slip for a mouth, had a little, tiny, skinny neck. You had a skinny body. It was about not much bigger than I was at age four. And as I looked further down, it was wintertime. It was freezing cold, had my covers around me, and I said, but where are his clothes. See, that's a question you never asked, where are his clothes? What clothes would that be? Doesn't he have any? Don't have a wardrobe? Don't they have an alien Walmart or Kmart where they can get some good clothes. What if they don't need any? What if that's not a luxury? That is in fact a position of authority? If they do have something? And I said, when I look further at him, I noticed he didn't have any any memory, dance whatsoever. I noticed as I will look further in because little kids do that, they look you up the top to bottom. You don't have any clothes, walk in the middle of their bedroom at three o'clock in the morning, they're probably going to wonder what you are. And I noticed he didn't have a tee t he didn't have a belly button. I said, Now I didn't know about any what all that meant when I was four years old. But as I got older and my abductions continued, I began to wonder about that. If you don't have a belly button, what does that mean? Well, it means you're not born, your hats cloned, made or manufactured. If you don't have a t T as a little kid would say. Obviously he wasn't male from what I could see, and he didn't have anything they know, genitalia whatsoever. So as I got older, Well, if you don't have genitalia, you don't appro create. You got here some other way. These are the kind of questions you should be asking yourself, real basic stuff. Just look at him and notice he doesn't fit. That's because he's an alien from another world. Well, he's alien in the sense of the word. He's not normal or natural to you. But if you look at the look at the there's seven primary alien figures that show up in the UFO field. A reptile, a gray, little gray like he was. There's a taller grades a little bigger than him, which is the one. If there's any implanting done, he's going to be the one to do it. There's this reptile guy, then there's this praying manis type guy's about seven and a half feet tall. And then there's another guy they referred to as the Nordic. He's a human like guy, about six and a half feet tall, big blue eyes, looks exactly like what the Nazis wanted to be. And that's where they probably got their information from. And then there's another guy called Bigfoot. Those seven primary entities six or seven guys are the ones I pay a lot of attention to, because every one of their DNA if you study them carefully, even a cersion review of their DNA signals to you they're from planet Earth. Now, how did they get alien? Become alien and all this and spaceships? That means somebody got the DNA from here, took it out there, did whatever they needed to do with it, brought it back here to convince you that these are aliens from another planet. Now, there may be aliens from other planets out there saying there aren't there may be. What I'm suggesting is that the guys we're looking at that DNA comes from this planet. I mean, when you look at a seven praying manus, where do you get pring manus DNA to particular Mars, the Moon? Probably not, Probably you get DNA from a preying manis on I don't know, planet Earth. Why would you do that, because there's several hundred species here to choose from just in the area of a praying manas. Where would you get human DNA for for the Nordic. I don't know. I'm going to take a wild guess Norway. I don't know where would you get DNA for for a gre alien? This is a fun fun When could I get a list up? Well? Alien, the Grays are definitely alien from other planets, says Okay, I'm open to that. I just prove it. That's all. Give me some strong evidence. Well, because I know all about space, I said, you mean they were told a lot of things about space, or that may have been to a certain place. That's what you're not getting across to me or other investigators, says if the alien the gray is an example, we looked at him. I went to a native friends of mine medicine men when I was Klipp Mahooti before he passed away. We had to talk about that for hours, and I said, tell me about the gray alien. Who are they? And he said they're the Thar people from a Zeta reticulate. And I said, don't feed me that crap. That's the stuff you tell white folks. You know better than that. He said, oh, well, they're the ant people. They come from inside the Earth. That's well, you didn't tell anybody that on TV. You're told them about the star people. That's what they want to hear, and that's what sells, doesn't it. I said, I want to know exactly where they come from. And he said, well, we call them the ant people. I said, because they used to have antenna on their head at one time. If you look at the rock petroglyphs, you can actually see the antenna on their head different ones. Fascinating. But you have to look at the morphology of alien. And we've got scientists, doctors, pathologists, a number of people who are doing a serious review right now on an alleged real, honest to goodness alien autopsy, and we're taking a very critical look at that. The information is amazing whoever wrote it, it's really good stuff. But the question is is it real or not? And so I've sent it out to my doctors and we're reviewing it from a very critical point of view, and yay, nay or whatever. And these are people who are highly adept in the field to make those determinations. And can I want to know. I mean, I want to know what's and what's not. I want all my hats on when I'm looking at something, and if one of my hats doesn't have the ability to make that determination in an educated or a reasonable way. If my cop hat looks at it at medical evidence and it can't make a determination, I don't ask my cop hat because it doesn't know it's not qualified to make that determination. If if we we're looking at alien autopsy type thing, I don't always ask just my medical hat, my medical people, so to speak, is that real or not. I have to have all my hats on because those hats can answer different questions. And an example one alien autopsy that actually occurred in Roswell, New Mexico. I spoke last year to one of the only living witnesses who was involved in directly or indirectly with the alien bar and I have it on tape, the whole thing. You're not going to find that on then that's not there. I didn't post it there. I don't care if anybody hears it on me. Doesn't matter to me, because what you believe about or what you think about or what that doesn't mean anything. But I have an eyewitness there, so to speak, and that's important to me because in asking these questions I look I teach how to determine where people are lying or telling the truth just just by watching them. I teach that on a college level, usually for psychology students, so they can interview people who have mental disabilities and so on, who lie or simply don't know if they're telling the truth. They don't have a clue. Wouldn't it be nice if you knew that as a therapist, that would be kind of an important skill. I would think so. Some of those type skills are the things we use when we question people. And you fill out our big abduction form, like twenty pages long. That was a long form. It's designed that way on purpose. Well, I've answered all the questions, and I'll be checking it myself. Well, you know, I mean, it's obvious I'm an abductee, I said, I will determine that by looking at your questions, by your answers. I said, there's a number of the questions that there are trap questions are absolutely hundred percent false. Now why would I put those in there? Got there clowns that come in there and they fill out everything in the positive so they think they can pool us and we're not beyond being fooled. That's possible. The point is, I don't care about the people who are who want to play games like that. I care about people have had real experiences and really want some real, honest to goodness answers. That's kind of a big deal. And I admire these abductees and contactees and people that come forward and want to find out exactly what happened because they don't have to. They're just honest, decent people that are confused or upset. Like me. Whenever I was in school in high school, I made a huge mistake from my last abduction. I went to my buddy who was in front an investigator with me in the UFO field back in nineteen sixty five, and told him about my abduction experience. I told my girlfriend first. You know what she did. She looked at me like I was completely like I needed help, serious help. The abduction. Back then, nobody knew what it was. Nobody had a clue, nobody talked about it. There wasn't any there was. These people knew to keep their mouth shut. So I told her, and she looked at me like use a ranch term a cap looking at a new gate. They stand there and look at it and move their head back board what is it? And she he felt real sorry for me and so she took me to my friend who's a psychologist who studies you a post by the way, But he didn't know anything about induction. He didn't know this kind of stuff going on. It had gone on for me since nineteen fifty two. I knew about it very well, but I didn't even tell my parents. My mother two years ninety six years old. At ninety two, I finally told her I was an abductee, plainly, and she's why did you not tell me this before? Because I don't like that horrible looking blue radley look on your face, and I certainly didn't want to see it when I was four years old when I was telling you the truth. So in a nutshell, we went to my friend's psychologist, and I thought, well, okay, we got to talk to him. I'll tell him. He's a UFO guy. He'll understand perfectly. You got to understand. He may be a psychologist, but he's got a UFO hat on. There's a lot of things that doesn't get and he may have a UFO hat, but he's gonna put his psychology hat on real quick. He's never heard of an upductor. You've never seen one, the right one. They don't exist, and you had a terrible, terrible dream. And he told me that story. And I looked at him and looked at her, and I said, okay, that's that's the best answer you can give me. That well, that's the truth of it. See, you've had this terrible experience, this dream that affected you so poorly and so badly that you know it's it's you have to understand that's what that was. And I said, okay, but you answer just a couple of questions for me. He said, yeah. I said, how can you be traumatized from the dream? One? Number two? I said, Before you answer that, I've got a couple other illustrations. I said. My door in my room, which is right next to me, my mom and dad, it's a remodeled old barracks, is what it was. That's all we could afford at the time. Whatever they were came in and kicked the door in, broke the lock off, and the lock fell on the door fell on the floor, and the door was basically broken. And my mom and dad next to me in the next room never heard a word. My sister in the room next to me, she never heard a word. Nobody heard anything but the door was destroyed, but when they got came through and came after me. That's number one. Two is with this criok in my neck. I have a serious criok in my neck where they grabbed me and so on. How does it which I didn't tell him this because I didn't know at the time, but I know now that I've had been checked out medically. I've got broken ribs on one side of my body from that event as well. And like when abduct the contact, the lady told me, Darreld, you just don't understand they healed you. I said, sweetie, you don't understand they're the ones that did it. What part that's just because they're covering it up. Doesn't mean that means like if I beat you up real bad, but I take you to the hospital and get you all bound up, I didn't commit a crime, right, That's why am I not believing that? You're not making any sense. So anyway, my friend, my friend of the psychologist, I broke my relationship with him at that point that I realized he didn't have a clue. He didn't even have good psychological answers for me. My girlfriend, who I thought the world love, still do she's a wonderful woman. I never married her, and that was one of the big reasons I don't stand there and tell you the truth. Literally put a stack of bibles there and put the hand tell you the truth of exactly what happened to me, and show you physical evidence of the event was real, and then you stand there and tell me I dream all of it. I said, if my room, if I broke my own door, my own room, how did I do that? Since the door opens from the outside inside, from the hallway into the new room. How did I get up in a dream, sleep, walk walk outside, kick the door, make my mom and dad stay away asleep, and my sister stay asleep, break my door, go back to bed, and not even realize that, and then dreamed about these five entities that came into my room. How did I make all that up? That's a pretty good story, And it's a story that I have more physical evidence of that event than most of the abduction events that I've talked to people on period, more physical evidence that that event actually occurred, because now I know how to look for evidence even years ago. So that's kind of the truth of why where I came from and how my abductions occurred, and why I look at things, and of course the big reason, how do you become an alien hunter? The answer that is real simple. They got my son. I woke up at two thirty or three o'clock in the morning. I think it around two thirty. I could be wrong, and I instantly knew, because there's a sense that abductees and contactees since whenever the alien was near them, they started breathing. I mean, they freaked completely out because they've known that feeling before, they're familiar with it. And I set up in my bed and I realized they were here, and I ran as fast as I could down the hallway of our large home that I knew my son was not in his bedroom. I knew it was him that had been taken. I knew my daughter was still in the room, she was still there. I knew that. I ran into the kitchen and there in the dining room, and there's my son, six years old, looking out the back door in the deep trance. My son doesn't sleep, by the way, never has, none of us have. So he's standing there looking out the back door for a long time. I keep looking at him. Finally, I said David what are you looking at since a little red light out there, little red light is a screen memory. There is no red light out there. It's to keep him in trance. He was supposed to go back and get in bed and not Nobody was supposed to know anything, but I did, and about that time my wife walked up. Now this poses a real problem. I'm looking at my son who just got abducted for the first time at age six. She looks at me, he looks at him, looks back at me and says, what's going on. I've never told my wife was an abductee. Now we've been married for eight years and I'm just now letting her know. Needless to say, she's not a happy camper. Now one of our kids, maybe both of them, are going to get taken and there's nothing anybody can do about it. She's done a happy camper. I mean, telling people all about aliens at three o'clock in the morning. Half your kids just got abducted. It's not exactly what you want to do. It's not a good way to continue your relationship. Well, my son very smart. He went in and devised He took my bow and arrow and devised a mate shift crossbow. A crossbow is a bow that pulled back and it's got a lock on it. So the arrow is there so that he can just touch it and get a fire. You don't have to stand there and hold it. He had it pointed at his door. I wonder why he did that. He was so traumatized by the event. He remembered lots of things about the event. He was so traumatized by the event that he set up a broadhead arrow, which is an arrow with a large razor point like that the razor blade stick it out of the side, made by Fred Bearer Company for bear hunting and deer hunting, and it's designed to cause maximum damage to someone once it hits them an animal as an example, he intended to make sure the alien got shot when they came back to that room, that they ever came back. That was the bad dream experience that he had. So he I knew he had been taken, And in fact, he later told me, he said, Dad, now imagine that your kids six years old telling you something like this, or walked down street talking, shooting the bowl, having a lot of fun, and he says, my consciousness has been changed. I said, what do you mean? David. He says, I no longer careful people like I used to. In other words, somebody had tampered with his conscious, altered certain aspects of his emotional state, and we talked about that for a while. I did not want to work with him because I didn't want to know, and he begged me to. My wife did everybody begged me to work with him. But finally did, and I found out the whole story. So much of his story was like mine. I was qualified. I never told anybody about my style, and here he is describing my own events that happened to him the same way. So I was kind of mortified that that turned me from a concerned daddy whose son might be having bad dreams to do the alien hungry that I know the real I know they're coming, I know they they I even investigated cases when I was in the CIA, not for the CIA, but for myself, because I met abductees while I was in the company as well in the CIA, and nobody is immune. We have people if you ask, who are your abductees and names so kind of the kind of jobs they have that's Wildern Carpenter's house wives, kids, children, babies. In some cases older people cia. I've got three NASA engineers that are my abductees right now. That's right, NASA engineers. It doesn't make any differ who you are. If you're on the list, you're going to get taken. They don't care whether you're an engineer or when you're a genius or we have people that are literally genius level. Literally we also have people I've wondered often why the alien never picked them, because I wonder how they can find food and they're not that brilliant, and so it's amazing the aliens mechanism or rationale for abducting certain people. It isn't because you're high intelligence. It isn't because you're spiritual. It isn't because you're nineteen different things. They have their own agenda, so to speak. And that's just the truth of it. Uh, whether one likes it or not, that's that. That is the that's the bottom line. But basically, I'll shut up here. If you've got other questions. I've discovered at least six freasons is why back and more now six eight I got eight nine reasons why the alien abducts people. And it's it's not casual, it's not accidental. It's it's it's uh, it's much more than that. It's it's very very specific, and they know what they're doing, and they're doing it for someone else. They're not doing it because they want to know. They're made hats, tone and manufactured by someone else who's running the show. And that's the real truth of it. And you're not going to read that on the Internet. Lots of questions, but I don't want to ask a whole bunch. Sure you do. Now, like you said, you have seven, eight, nine reasons as to why they're doing what they're doing, who they're picking and everything. Do you want to explain some of what those reasonings are. Sure, I'll be glad to. I would like to set this up for entertainment reasons, because talking heads is not really that interesting unless there's a fun story behind it. I'll put a fun story in her true story. I was at a conference in Las Vegas and doctor Carla Turner, for those of you who remember her or if she passed away, one of the best investigators in the beutiful field many many years, a dear friend of mine. She came to the conference and was sitting in the crowd and I was speaking, and I said, there are at least seven reasons why the alien. I said, six, six reasons why the alien takes you. And as I were doing my presentation, lady stands up in the crowd and screams from it. And she was really angry. She had never heard anything like this, and anything new had to be obviously wrong. And I mean the top speaker hadn't said it, so it must be incorrect. And and I said, I said, that's I said that. No, I'm actually correct about this stuff. And I'm going to give you the reasons I gave her and the crowd. I said, I said there are six reasons. She kept interrupting, screaming. She was not loud, she was screaming, No, that's wrong. I said two of the reasons. I said, I'm gonna give you three sets of two one of the reasons once. The first set is sounds and technical. I said. When I say it's in technical, I mean they don't care how much science you know. They don't care if you're PhD. They don't care if you understand the quantum entanglement. They could care less about that. They know more about it than you do. They're not going to learn anything from you. That's not why they're here, if you think that you're only about fifty years behind them. I said, so the science and the technical field. I'll give you an example. Is an example here in the technical field. One of my abductees told me is well, he said, he looks like Grizzly Adams. He literally does he ever ever saw any the sea smell? But he he he looks like Grizzly Adams. And overall this is what he looked like. Well, I'm not in you knowing special about me, I said, that's a bunch of malarkey. I said, you're a computer genius. I know it, and you know it, and you're not going to tell anybody. I said, but I know enough about you in your background to know that I'm not only correct, I'm more than correct about you. I said. You are what you are technically. From it to the casual observer's point of view, you're an apartment maintenance managers. What you are. You've pitched washers and dryers, you've picked electric light bulbs and things like that. That's what you can do. But that's not who you are. It's your computer genius. What he didn't know that I knew, and others are barely finding out about him now. Even after his death, his intelligence community was really interested in him. His ideas were so far out there and so far and when he got abducted, they really got interested in him because some of the stuff that he came back and talked about, which we don't have time and here, was so effective that they in one experiment, we have some very good authority. In one experiment, they took a bolt, a bullet, or what you want to call it, a metal object and put it in the mechanism that he had designed based on what he saw inside that UFO. When that thing powered up, it fired, the bolt or a bullet or whatever you want to call it, it blew. It came through the wall of the concrete wall of the building. They found it like twenty one miles away. I think they called out a rail gun something like that. So, like I told him, don't tell me you're just a stupid little maintenance men. Don't there's nothing wrong with maintenance men. I've got great respect from him. I got friends of their maintenance men. But don't tell me that's the height of your entire career. I know you, and I know my phenomena much better than you think I do. But that was the science end of it. But again, they didn't care about what they care What they care about is not your science and technical What they care about is that you process data differently than other science and technical people. You think differently. That's what they're interested. They're not carefu. They don't care about your science or your technical Then I said, then there's a there's another the next set. The next two are spiritual and psychical. I said, now this is interesting because a lot of UFO people don't don't I don't like talking about religion. I don't like talking about spiritual stuff. But it doesn't matter. If they're interested in it. You better be interested in it if you want to study the phenomena. Don't be dense stupid. Literally, you're cutting yourself out of the picture. They're not interested in Gene Dixon. They're not interested in the famous psyche when I was a kid. They're not interested in Billy Graham. They don't care about that. That's not the point. They're not interested that you're the top person in the field nationally or internationally. They don't care about that. They care that you think differently in your field than anybody. When you put the put these people in in the in the mix, they they're different. They're there's there they They may sound psychic, and they may sound very spiritual and all that. They're very good at that. I understand that, but there's something else going on that they probably don't know themselves. The alien does know. He's been following your genetics for some time. Then I said the last two, I said, I mentioned to you, I said, I fall in that category myself. And a lady screened what is it? She was really noxious, everybody really mad at and I said that people who fall into the last who learn things physiologically or psychologically with little or no training. She yelled, stood straight up in the crowd and said brave. I said, okay, I said, I said, if you think you're interrupting me, you're making a huge mistake. I said, I like a challenge. And I said, now you've opened the cant worms. I said. At the time of the third degree black belt in the choulda coon and Kilkishinkai. Now I'm the fourth. So what Lots of people got black belts in the martial arts. I said, yeah, but this is not like take or do you can order your belt in advance pay for It's sweetie, I've never had a teacher. So what I said, I have a master's level in the NP. I'm a hypnotic hanaesthesia therapist. I have a master's level in hypnotherapy. What's that? I said, that's people that certify people who are hypnotists. Do you actually think I went to school for all this stuff? I said, this is where you're more wrong than you can even imagine. I said. It's not that I'm smart or I'm particularly unusually good. That's not the point. If you think that, you missed the whole point. It's that I think differently. I put things together differently than other people. Not better, not bigger, not whatever, just differently. And that's for some reasons, seems to interest the alien and said, well what else? And I said, I said, if I tell you a bunch of other stuff, you're just going to say, well, you're just making it up. You can't prove any of that, I said, I didn't bring all my certificates and all that with me. But I said, I can assure you I can. I can. I said, let's I like a challenge. I said, let's have some fun. She said, okay. I said, have you ever heard of firewalking? She said yeah, I said that. She said, I've heard people that can walk over a fire. Bore so what I said. I taught myself how to walk over fire when I was thirteen years old, maybe right at fourteen. Tony Robbins was in diapers when I was that age. I didn't go to Tony Robbins, who learned from tollybark Calm himself. I didn't learn that from him. I simply read about it one time in a book about Japan and decided to go test it and try it myself. I said, now. She said, well, right, aff, I said, oh, I'm not finished. Wait a minute, if the if the I said, I've also for New Mexico State University, demonstrated running and walking, running literally fast over broken glass that I broke in front of everyone. I said, now here's my point. If the if the hotel here will allow it, we can build a nice big fire out there over the area, or we can get I'm sure there's plenty of people to drink here, and we can break a bunch of whiskey bottles, beer bottles, and all kinds of stuff. I'll make a bad glass out there, four inches thick, and we'll walk over it. I'll walk and run over and do all kinds of things. I said, then I want you to do it. Why don't I do it? I said, I can pass my immunity to you. You're so far behind the Parker you don't have clue. She sat down, never said another word. I said, if you want to do that, let's do it. If you don't sit down and shut up, and she did. She shut up. Carla Turner laughed and laughed. She said, man, she said, that's the best presentation. I couldn't believe that. I said, well, I've not how many people challenged me in a conference like that before. I said, she really had it in for me. And in fact, that woman followed me around for years at conferences. She would follow me around and tell everybody I was a fraud, of a liar, of fate and everything. I said, you know, it'd be great, and when are you going to prove it? When are you going to do that? I've conducted twenty seven surgical interventions and the legs alien implant. If I were a fraud or a liar or cheat and everything else that had caught me on that a long time ago. Kind of hard to fake a surgery, kind of hard to fake hard evidence with scientists. Kind of hard to do that once we've had our research looked at by Stanford Universe, MI I T. Los Alamos, New Mexico Tech, your university in Toronto. Kind of hard to fool them all. You kind of have to be truthful and real otherwise. What it NIDS is the one that's sponsored our second set of surgery, the National Institute for Discovery Science. But Bob Bigelow I said they paid ten thousand dollars for the next three surgerys. That's how impressed they were with it. So that's that's the fun story of the six things why they pick you up. It's not because you're a scientist or your technical or your genius, or you're a wonderful minister of the gospel or your son psychic or something like that. That's not it at all. It's that you process the data differently than other people. And they understand that clearly. You may not. I may not, we may not, but they know they get it. I don't know how much more time you got, but I did have a couple more questions or fire away. Does your son still have any experiences? Will them are they still abducting or that stop too. In my opinion, his experiences have still occur. I don't know how often could. I have not been around him for the last few years a lot. But when he went to Brazil, when he was married and had a Brazilian wife. True story, hand of God here making any of it up. This was told of me by his wife and her mother. In Brazil, housing is extremely expensive, so it's not uncommon for the relatives, two or three relatives who live with you in your home. And so David and his wife lived with her mother, and they had a little room and that was their home basically, and they heard her mother and his wife heard some unusual noises in the bedroom in middle of the day. David was sleep they can nap, and they kept hearing these weird noises, like struggling, and so they opened the door. Their words not modeled. Some huge black figure clothed in black was on top of David chokingly, and David was in trance or incoherent and were struggling to breathe, and it turned and looked at them. When they came in the door, not bothered at all that they were there. He said, in the most foul language you can imagine, to get out, which they instantly slammed the door. And I said, you left my son in there, and they said, yeah, what do you think we're going to do? We could be next And anyway, my son survived it. But that's just one event. The aliens are here to save the planet fixed ites on hold, Really, when are they going to start doing that? Did they describe what it looked like? Face wiser? They did to me and I I kept that information private, and I've kept some of the All the entities that were in my last event I kept private. I never described them because they were not the alien. They're the ones who hatched, clone, made or manufactured the they're the boss that they're in charge. You will rarely ever see them in EUPO history, and I've never described them because every time I go to a UFO conference, people always come and say, oh, Darryl, I heard about you on the radio with that wonderful tunefoil hat guide and that was really interesting. I had experience it exactly like it. That's really well, why don't you just describe those entities to me, Well, they had long hair, beautiful white long hair, and they had these white robes. And I were sitting at this table. I said, I already saw the Star Trek version on TV. It's not them. You're not even close. You're not going to find them in UFO books. You're not going to find them on TV on Star Trek. And my wife's a track heap and they're not in They're not it's not them, I said you. We're so far behind the power curve. We don't even know where to start. We're still arguing about who the alien actually is, who's in charge, the Mantis or the Grays exactly who is it? You know what? We need to figure that out about fifty years you might if you continue using a UFO at to ask the questions. So it's a it's a police technique. We use an example of this. Uh, sometimes police will they'll have a serial murder or a rible murder, like someone was stabbed twenty seven times, and then you'll get these people, believe it or not. They we'll call in and say I did it. I killed a woman. I'm sorry, I did it. It was terrible. How did you do it? Well? I stabbed her how many times? There was so many? I can't. I went crazy and I just kept stabbing, So I don't know. Okay, how did you? How did you do it? Show me exactly how you did it? And they said I stabbed and stabbed and stabbed, and I just I just couldn't. It was It's horrible. And the cop just sits there and laughs, you know, to himself, because he knows that God didn't do it. Whoever did it was left handed. You don't want to tell people they were left handed and they used a pair of scissors. You let them, well, I used a big butcher knight. Well, wasn't the butcher night a pair of scissors? And you were left handed? You're right handed and you used a butcher Knight. Why do I think that that's not a true story. These people are mentally off and they'll confess to anything to make themselves famous. They're five minutes of fame on TV. This isn't true. So keeping certain elements, and Bud Hopkins was good about this as well. There are certain elements in the Uko Ponamena. You keep quiet totally just when people have really unusual events of really great landslide case and it's similar to the evidence that you already know that you've been keeping quiet. How do you think you can double check them or triple check them well with cases that you already know well about that no one else knows anything about. So I could happen to them, how would they be making up the identical, exact same things they wouldn't that have to have the same event? Mm hm that makes sense. Yes, So before we end this, I do have to ask the question about the whole who they work for? Everything else? Like you said, the DNA and everything comes from Earth, like for all the different races or whatever. So the things that they're working for are they not of this Earth? Are they more? I've gone throughout the WU sight here, but the interdimensional because that has been tossed out here so much lately. Yes, yes, I agree, Yeah, that's it's a good it's a great question. You're I think you're going down the right direction and it says a good deal about yourself. I think it's a great question. My one of my questions after my last event was who are these guys? They weren't the aliens. They certainly were representative of that genre that effect, but that wasn't who they were, and that was absolutely stunning to me. Now, I've only found eight people who accurately described one of those entities ever, and when they did describe it, I can tell you that the side effects they had from their event. One of my side effects with broken ribs from what they did to me. But in these other cases, that grandma epilepsy was one of the people. A guy. He was probably six foot four. He looked like one of the best football players you ever saw. He looked like mountain of a man. Black men avoided me for three days at the conference in this was in California, and he avoided me for three days. They ain't spot me abductees for a mile because they'll often avoid you if they I mean, if they do, you're too close to that picture. They they don't like that. And I'm loading everything up, getting ready. I'm getting ready to go back to the hotel on a flight in the morning, and he says, mister Simms, and I turn around. It was him. I said, well, how are you doing. I said, You've been avoiding me for three days. He sayd yes, sir, I have Do you have any idea why? He said, I just have one question to ask you, sir, and I said, please do. He said, do you have a pen and paper? And I said I do, and I'll pull outs of paper in a pen. He starts drawing one of the insties. It was in my last event drawing it. I have the drawing. He said, I want to know if you've ever seen anything like this, sir, and I said, let me have the pincer. And I finished the drawing and he said these words before he literally ran out of the building. Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god. And he ran away. That's the effect those beings are going to have on different from there. You're going to wish that event that never happened. They're not friendly and they're not here to save your planet pictures on hold or anything else. And neither is the alien, although they'll tell you stuff like that to get you interested. But the fact is someone told me. They said, well, according to the there can be millions of races of them out there aliens. I said, now, that's absolutely true. I said, I don't. I'm not arguing that. I said, I haven't been everywhere. I don't. I've been in an outer space all over the place. I don't know the answer to that. I said, according to ancient information. I said, I've been to India. But in the information that I read and studied there, they said there's over two hundred thousand races out there of aliens. I don't know. I don't know how they know that, but let's assume that's true. I can't tell you who they all are. I can only say the following, and I can say it with great clarity. There may be two hundreds out there may be a million races out there, but I'm telling you that the beings that are here on this planet doing what they're doing are not doing it for any good reason. And in my opinion, or at least two groups of the good guys the bad guys, and they fall in two different categories. I said, if you study the ancient material, the Sityen is so famous for the Samerian documents and others. And I said, I've done a lot of work on Sitchen and people like that and found out that, in my opinion, he probably was not a Samarian scholar. If he was, he definitely was at the bottom of his glass because he could not interpret Sumerian and Hebrew correctly. And I went and found a Samerian scholar who also studied his work said, the man didn't know what he's talking about. He makes this stuff up and tells people and they don't question because they don't speak Samerian. They don't know how to read these tablets. So therefore he's correct. And he never took questions in his interviews. He just said stuff, told people, you're too stupid to understand. That's my Samerian scholar, and you're not. And so I set up a meeting between him. I set up a meeting with my friend who is a Samerian Ugartic and Hebrew scholar and a pH d professor, and I set up a total called art Bell because he's a friend of mine. And I said, like to have a meeting between Sitchen and my friend, this scholar, doctor Mike Heiser, and uh, and I'd like for Mike Heiser and for your Sitchen to bring a proctor on. A proctor is a person who you both consider equal to you or more and you totally accept him as truthful. You know what Sitchens people said about that plan. We will never allow doctor Sitchin to ever come on a program and debate anybody. I said, don't read and you don't debate people it because you already know the end result of that. That's which I already knew when I started reading some of these books and realized he couldn't even properly translate. He says, it says from the heavens they came. That's not exactly what it said. I said, it's closer to the fact that they got kicked out, not invited to leave, kicked out, and they're not real happy about that. Whoever they are, they're super beings. There's no question. You can call them angels, you can call them the watchers, call them all. They're different names in history and what they were called. I said, whatever they are, whoever they are, these are not people. Are not friendly to you, and they're not interested in taking over your planet. They could have done had a thousand years ago if they wanted to. You don't have the tech to stop. In fact, to show you how advanced they are. You can't even back engineer the craft you got out of Roswell. You're still having problems with it. They have a science and the physics that is different than your physics. It's a level higher. It's like you're like grade school physics. They're like in the University of it. So you know, that's the reason we're far behind powercare because we can't pick the things out last thing, I'll say. Doctor Bob Wood, who's one of the smartest people in my opinion, in the UFO world, came to me where I was on a TV program. And in this program, we were in Sedona and we took a break because it was so hot and everything, and we were taking the coat break and all the talent and the TV people went over to get their drinks and doctor Bob Wood looked at me and said, Daryl, could I speak to you alone? For them? He said, I understand you were in the company. I said, I was. That's a CIA. And he asked me about certain things there and I I answered him truthfully and the best I could. And then he said, I have one other question, and it's really important that you answered this for me. I said, I'm happy to do so, sir. He said, how far past us is the alien in technology? And I said, I'd really rather not answer that question, Sir. I said, I work here. I don't want to get lapped clean off the stage. And by that time everybody had already was coming back and they were hearing that question. He said, I want to know what you think. And I said, well, there's probably not a lot of people that do. And he said, well I do. How far ahead of us is the alien? I looked at him, and everybody's standing there listening them. I said, no more than fifteen to fifty years ahead of us. And everybody there, every person, every UFO person, everybody busted out with the biggest belly of that app you ever had heard your life, except two people weren't laughing, me and doctor Bob Wood. And Bob Wood looked at me and said, everybody shut up, and he spoke. He said, those are the exact figures that I came to. He said, how did you come to those figures? Daryl? And I told him. I said, when I was age twelve, I got what was referred to as an alien implant. I was conscious when it happened. They didn't realize I hot mic to them. In other words, I was listening to them when they told me you can't hear you, you won't feel anything and all that, Well I did, and I heard everything they were talking about in detail. That's why I know so much about data now because I'm smart, but because I oh eve dropped, I learned how to eve drop on them when they abducted me. When I heard things I wasn't supposed to, I said, in a nutshell, I've listened to everything they were talking about, met it didn't they were going to do to me? And why? And I broke down started crying as a kid there. I said, why would they do that to me? I've never harmed anybody in my entire life. And when I went to college, and make sure to say university, one of the things I studied was an advanced psychology class and some medical stuff. I wanted to find out if that what I overheard was true and real, and I found out it was. And as I studied it, I was amazed. There were no more than fifteen to fifty years of editors, and everybody was real quiet. And he looked at me in and he said, I said, well, I want to write you because I wanted his answer in writing. I didn't want it, I said, he said that sort of thing. I wanted it writing, So I wrote him and he wrote me back in detailed and said, as you know the reason you are all interviewing me, was because I have actual hardcore not copies of the evidence, actual letter of the evidence of the back engineering at the rows of UFO, and I said, that is correct. He said, Darrel, they're no more than fifteen to fifty years out of us. Those were the exact figures that I got from my research. That's well, that's two I was. I said, I don't think the rest of the UPO community is going to go along with that, but nice to know them in good company here, that is, I mean, anyone thinks of aliens or anything like the ship again, that's like you said earlier, light years ahead. Everyone thinks they're so far more advanced or whatever, just because I guess they can't comprehend that that technology is not so much further than what we're at. Maybe the ships are light years ahead of us, but the ships are not the alien as we know them, we see them. I mean, I'll give your audience a hint if they're interested. If they're not, that's fine too. The ship it's attached to the biology of a person plunger. You don't have to There is no steering will in the in the UFO, there's no gear ship per second, third, and fourth and light speed there is one. They're so simplistic and that you look at and you're like that this is not possible. Inspect in the big spaceship like on Star Trector's light speed Phase four and all that that sort of thing. There isn't one like that. It's attached to the because it's attached to the neurology of the alien that's sitting there. That's how it flies it. So it's not so much how much he knows, it's how it's attached to him. If you've got an alien body and he's alive, you could easily apply the UFO with him. You'd have to control it that he could fly it. If you try to back engineer it, you're probably going to have some real difficult time. I guess that's where my brain wanders too, is where these things are being engineered from? Like where they sure, where is it getting engineered at? Where is it coming from? What are they Like clearly there's a purpose on their end of what they're wanting to do and why they're here and what they're doing with it, But like my curiosity is where is it coming from? And what is making it? Like the controlling things and everything. It's like when you start to go down these rabbit holes that you get more questions and answers. That's true, and one of the answers I do give people in because I love to get people information. They can go research do on their own. Don't take my word for it, go doing your own homework. There's a a NASA anos, a scientist whose name was forget his name here, and I'll tell you about his book. His book is It costs about three hundred dollars, but you can get it free on the internet if you look at it. It's called Ring Makers of Saturn. And in his book he goes into great detail describing where the alien is at. It's in the Rings of Saturn, and every is well, that's all crazy andnessa. I never admit that I was invited to a meeting at the JPL Jeff Propos Lab in California, Los Angeles area. They know who I am, why they invited me, I have no clue. And there were probably a couple of hundred engineers, especially scientists there listening to the program. The new program is called the Cassini Project. Cassini was the first nuclear powered spacecraft we were going to send in space, and we're going to send it out by the Jovian System, by Jupiter Mars, and it's Jupiter and Saturn and all that and amazing research it was done with that thing. I wonder why they call it Cassini. And I asked him that in that meeting, and they got real quiet, said you could heard pin drop After I asked my questions, you could heard a pin drop on a carpet, and they said, free drinks and gifts back for everyone. Back to the room. They just looked at me glared. They knew who. Why would you invite me that meeting? The reason I say this Cassini project was interesting to me, and why they invited me there? Perhaps guess where the book Ring Makers of Saturn. Guess where the alien is, what ring the alien is in? And you can actually see it if you've got powerful telescopes to see it, the Cassini Ring. Curious, hint, curious, Look, go check it out yourself and a remarkable man just type into word ring makes of Saturn, that's the scientist and read it gets real technical, real quick. But you can get a telescope. You don't want to be technical and take your UFO hat off therother side and put your science hat on. Per second, and look at the rings of Saturn, and you'll notice that it's not like it's not like the rings are just Thebrifields per se. It's like his thesis. That scientist's thesis is someone is making the rings of Saturn, and in his scientific opinion, you can see them making the rings of Saturn, that the Cassini ring and so on is being added to it. It's not disappearing. They're not using it for fuel. Something else is going on. I don't know what it is. I had no idea. I'm just telling you what the man said. I'll definitely look into it. Good man. Well, mister Sims, I want to say thank you very much. It's been a pleasure talking with you. It's I always enjoy talking with people that have had lots of experience, like researching and investigating and everything else. It's always nice to hear the knowledge that someone has behind it. I interview a lot of people that have had experiences like with abductions or paranormal or crypt or where, but I don't often get to talk to someone that's actually had many years of research into this and looking into the things and investigating this. So I do enjoy talking with people. Well that's you're a smart man. And I believe me, God has not put any premium on ignorance. So people believe that, then they're going to get real fooled. I like smart people. I'm sure God does too, and it's it's a pleasure to speak to people who inquire. We all need to know. This is a this is a world issue, and it belongs to the world, not to researchers, not to scientists, not the CIA, not the MOSAD, not to KGB, but all of us. This is an issue that affects all of us. Do you want to let anyone out there listening where they can find your information at or reach out to you if they have any questions or anything they want to get in contact with you. Thank you that you can reach me at the alien hunter dot com and you can click at the bottom of that and it'll on alien hunter and it emails me. Now answer all your questions that I can for free. I answer all my emails. If I'm slow, it's because there were a lot of people asking questions. It's not because you're being ignored, but I don't do that. I answer all the questions and I have people from the intelligence community who are abductees, to doctors, lawyers, nurses, all kinds of people writing me all the time because they don't know where are you're going to go. If you're a doctor, you're going to go tell your medical staff about your latest UFO experience. It's a career injer I wouldn't do that, So if you want to contact me, you're welcome to that. I have only two books written. And when there's evidence of light, and because the alien sees an infrared, ultra violet X ray and visible light at the same time, when you say I was in the abduction experience, it was like they were scanning me. They were. They were. That's why they didn't have to have the equipment there. They can do that. It's their eye covering is nothing but a lims for that purpose. So the book has written an Alien hundred Evidence of Light. It's about my own experiences and how I found evidence. If you get the book, it's not a book on entertainment. I didn't write it for that reason. I wrote it so that you could follow it and find your own evidence. That's the point The second book is on alien implants. If you have an implant or think you do, it's a good book to give because you're going to learn a lot about implants and you're going to find out a lot of step on internet. It's not accurate. Everybody doesn't have an implant just because they got abducted. Just ain't true. I look at one hundreds of uttaries every year. Most of them do not contain an alien implant. I'll make sure to include a link in the show notes, so when anyone listens to the episode, all they gotta do is scroll down and then click it. I'll take you to the website and get in contact with you. But I appreciate you, and you're, like I said, smart man, and I inquiring minds need to know. I totally agree. Yes, I appreciate you coming on here talking with me tonight. It's been a pleasure. Thank you, sir. Yep, thank you. I have a good night, no boy, And that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of tenfoiltl dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. Thank you all for joining us on this journey, and until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown. Good night, everyone seems on sounds and the headphones. Yeah, it's turns to rock. Got a story about a cryptic creature. Let's take a walk, Bigfoot, Dougler. They're out there in the talk, but the truth is out there likingly as fuck. Ufo Sighting's got the whole world shook Conspiracies on phones like a story in the book me consol trying to keep us by. 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