Ep. 206: The Watchers of the Woods

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me. Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps. Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes as soon as I made eye contact with this thing. And don't like death. Welcome back to Tim foil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Tonight. We are joined by my guest Donna. Donna, thanks for coming here and talking to me. Thank you for having me. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself before we get started. Well, I'm of a Shawnee descent and I kind of grew up in the woods. My dad, of course, he was born in nineteen twenty seven, so he's an old time hunter trapper, doug Roots, old time mountain man, of true mountain man. And that's how I grew up, and that's how I experienced my first We don't call him bigfoot. We call him the watchers. It's a Shawnee term. And I was six years old time I saul my first one. I was thinking a patcha galler root with my guide and there was a county fair in town, and I want to go to the fair. And I always made you work for whatever you got, You had to work for it. And he take me off to that it's yellow roote, and I said he was doing most of the digging. I was mostly cleaning. You break the tops off, you separate at roots goes in one bag off school and the other. And he'd been there, you know, for a while doing that. And and he stood up and he walked over the stump there, which we're back in the woods in the cliffs, you know, and he ladies, he chewed tobacco and he lady is plugging tobacco on top of that stump there. And then he come over and he said, now come on, we're gonna go. And I kind of got, you know, I didn't want to leave or want to make money on and go the fair. And he said, now come on, we're gonna go now, and he kept me by the hand. And as we walked away, of course he's carrying him big bye. He's fifty pounds feedsacks is what we used through roots, and he had that over his shoulder in my hand, you know, had my hand. And I looked back and there where we'd been digging, there was this big, massive black figure stood up and I'm telling you he was he was eight foot tall at least, and it took that tobacco and picked up off stump and then he you know, I'm looking. Of course, I'm little, you know, I'm scared, and that's you know, I'm pulling on his hand and he's kind of shook my hand and he's like, no, no, you know, just. You leave him alone. He will leave you aloneess from where we're going. So he was calm, so, you know, we walked away. I looked back and it just picked that up and it walked back up through the woods, back up through the cliffs. And so that was my first experience of ever seeing them, and of course over my lifetime because I'm sixty two. So I've experienced them different times through my life. Of Course, my dad, you know, he after he grew up, evidently experienced them too. He was familiar with them. He taught me different ways. He showed me the marker stones. They would be the piled and that was not the mess with it. That was their way and knowing we're safe. And then of course you've got the tree structures and just different stuff. We always left gifts and so that was that was my first experience. Have you seen any when you say this was your first ones, I'm assuming you've had multiple. Oh yeah, yeah over my lifetime. I lived on I grew up on a three hundred acre farm, so our berry patch was eleven acres berry patch. We had orchards. We grew our own food, you know, we had our cattle, horses, you know, hogs, the chickens. Uh. That's how I grew up. We our gardens weren't gardens. Our gardens were fields because we didn't just you know, we had our own food. But you know, back then, you traded. Somebody had something, you you know, that was as a common thing. So and from time I was little, you know, I was six years old, i'd run to the barn, jump on my pony, and I'd take off through the woods. I didn't have to worry about it didn't like it is today. You know, it was it was safe and no no problem. So over my lifetime, you know, it was I seen them. My dad, of course, he was born in an old LOLd cabin under well there's it's conservancy land now it's called Buzzard Roost and that's where the cabin was that my dad grew up in. That's where he was born. And when I'm saying cabin in the woods, I mean cabin in the woods, I don't mean you know, modern day cabin. These were just woods. And he had told me that I took care of my died when he got older, and last two years of his life, I never left him. So we talked quite a bit. But over my you know, when I was growing up, he had said the first time he saw it, he was little too. And of course the cabin his mom had brought him outside to the bathroom in night time where there's no run. You know, this is nineteen twenty seven, there's no run of water, there's no bathroom. There's the out house that she had just brought him out to the yard to go to the bathroom, and he said he went over to like the edge of the yard and he said there was like this huge dark shadow shape came up over top of him, and of course, you know he's little and scared him. He said, his mom just came over and picked him up, and he's like it was standing there, this huge thing was standing there and she just said calmly, you know, like you know, no baby, my baby, and said she she just carried him back in the cabin and it went back up through the woods. So there was time she interacted with them. She was born, you know, late eighteen hundreds. So my family goes back from here. I can date. I'm back some letters that goes back to seventeen ninety seven. The Irishman was my grandfather that came here. We've grown sons of his own, and he married into the Shawnee tribe here and so all down through generation generation it's always been we've always had the Shawnee. And then I got the legends up from the Shawnee, and they talk about the Watchers. That's where the name Watchers comes from. And they've always been part of their lives and they were never They were the watchers. They were there to watch over the people and protect them. I'm not saying that they're all calm, and I've never I've had a couple experiences where there was violence. I've never had one try to intentionally hurt me. There's been different incidents, things happened that stirred them up, should I say or whatever, And you know, they reacted more violently than mostly. When my dad got older and I moved him here, he had a stroke, I moved him from the farm and I bought my place here. I went from a big farm down to I got twenty three acres here. But I went from my home farm to another big farm where I raised my kids. And then I lost my husband and youngest son in a car accident. So I so, you know, I bought the place here and moved chairs so and when Dad got sick, I moved him here with me to take care of him. And within a month of my dad being here, he This probably sounds strange, but we have like an attachment, I guess is how you would explain it, where there's one that is specifically part of you, and within a month of died being here I would come down at midnight to put him to bed. I put a mobile home in my front yard and I would walk down at midnight to put him to bed. He couldn't walk very good. And it started out like I call it my three day thing. Because my bedroom was a big i'd it's like plate glass windows. My house set up against the woods, and I never I just like my windows. I liked the woods. And then I had the old time screen door, not like a modern day storm door. This is old time screen door, is just screen. And I would leave my door open because under the and I have a little creek it goes by my house. My house is spring fed on My water comes from springs, and I leave that door open. I didn't have to have air conditioner. It was just stay cool. And the first night it woke me up. It's like three in the morning. It seemed like three o'clock. It's kind of their time or whatever. And the smell woke me up. And first off, I thought, oh my gosh, you know, did my septic line break. It was horrible. It was horrible stench, and I didn't see anything. And that first two nights, you know, I smelled, and then the third night, I saw a shape by the corner of one of the big windows. And on the fourth night I went to put that the bed. I had this huge, huge cedar tree, because, like I said, my house is in the woods. And when I came out, I to go to Dad's. I'm walking out through there and I got with and then I seen the like the dark shape, and I thought it was a bear, you know, because we do have bears here. I got foodies, bear, bobcat, got everything. And so I didn't, you know, I've been taught, you know, I hunt, you know, I grew up hunting with my dad and my brothers. Whatever they did, I did. I'm tald. You don't run, you know, you ease on down in. And I got in the house and Dad licked at me. He said, what the world's wrong with you? You crazy? And I was like, how to do the bear out there? And he's like, where's the bear, you know, bear out there? I was like, it's everybody the tree, you know, and he'said, well, show me, and I helped him to the door, and yeah, he looked and he said the same thing to me had said as a child. He said, you leave him alone, he'll leave you alone. He said, he ain't doing nothing but watching. That's all he's going to do. And I was like, you know, a little bell went off in my head and I was like, you don't mean, I said, surely, you know, He's like, yeah, he's just he's just watching him be all right. And it would come, you know, it was there of night, and I'd go put him in bed. And that went on for a while. And when I moved out from the farm, he had one it's so I sold off, you know, his calves, and he had one one pig left and I brought it was a sow. Of course, she wasn't no pig no more. She was a big four hundred pounds owl. So you know her her pen was pretty tall. That's when she stood up. She's way taller than I was, you know. And again it was around three in the morning, and I hear the outrageous screams. It was like growls, almost like an elephant trumpeting. I never never heard that kind of screams before. And so I, you know, normally I carry a gun when I come out side because I'm in the wood, I carry a gun, and I didn't that night. I come out because I'm barefooted, you know, I have a nightgown on barefoot, and that's screaming. I'm still, you know, perplexed, you know the heck, and I have to walk down. I got a bridge and where the pig pen was he had I actually did casting of the footprints because it went stepped over. It real stepped over the sight of the pig pin, and then of course it's pig pin, so it's mud step step and over the other side. That's how big. The strides and the footprints were eighteen inches long and I'm about twelve white. I mean, they were huge. I had to casting up until a couple of years ago my house burnt back by the woods. But anyway, it didn't hurt the hog. It went on through and went down through the creek. And then I had a chicken coop one down by the road, and it just busted through that chicken coop like it was what was just splinters, you know, it was just destroyed as chickens going everywhere. And I had stopped at the bridge because then, you know, I'm thinking, you're stupid, because it's three o'clock in the morning. Nobody don't know you're outside, don't I have a gun, get back to the house, a big dummy. So I had it back up and I went in and I have a British infield three h three and I have armor here, shells that I use if I have to use them. And I don't shoot at you know, that's that's not for one of the watchers, that that's something else. And I read through the gun and then I sat up back down, and then my dad had He was a bull mass and a pitbull mix. He was old dog, Jake was his name. He's big dog. I heard him scream one down by the road, and you know, your first instinct is we want to go to help. But it's like something physically stopped me at the door. I could not go out the door. And all the way down the road, of course, like I said, I'm in the country, and you go one down a ways, probably about three miles. And there was an older lady lived there and she had little dogs, and she called the cops because you know, it went past her house, same screaming, and I've showed up and they tried to convince me it was coyotes. And I didn't argue with them. Might just let them, you know, God, whatever. But then it traveled on up the road. And my daughter is about six miles from me, and she lives all the way back to the end of a holler and there's about four hundred acres of woods that has not been touched in gosh, over one hundred years. That was where he kind of ended up back in there behind her house. But never did figure out what upset it, what caused the ruckus, or whether it was even the same one, because the next night Guides was back and he wasn't. He was calm. So that was my first experience of seeing violence. Normally they just watched and never harmed anything all the time I was growing up, but over my life I had different interactions. So did it harm the dog. Yeah, it did. I didn't think he would live because it was literally the bike marks. Now you've got to imagine how big that dog is. That's a bull mass and pitbull, so he's big. It was like through the hind quarters, it was like it was it was bitten. It was like it just picked it up and bit through like the private parts and through the back and it didn't suffer as as fine. That's I guess that's the only thing that he of course he was old, you know, and he lived. He never really moved around, and he has kind of babied because he was you know, you know how it is with your old animals. You're gonna take care of him no matter what. And no, but all the way down through there it slaughtered dogs. I mean the old lady had little dogs. It just all the way down through there, it just slung dogs h for miles. So it was you know, I just it was massive. I mean just from the footprints now I got from the mud and I'm looking at it and I'm thinking the one I would see at the at the cedar tree. He was well over eight foot tall. He was big, but he would just you know, it was like he was attached to Did. And then when Dad passed away, within two weeks of Did passing away, he left. I have seen him rarely, but I have seen him. And that's been dead for sixteen years, so over those years I have seen him. So he would be well over one hundred years old, you know, because he's interacted with dadd was eighty four when he passed away, and that was sixteen years ago. So from what he told me, you know, they I like grew up together. They become part of you and kind of what I've experienced in my own is that too. Have you experienced like if he was attached with your father? Do you have one that you're do you think it's his attached with you? Yes? I do. I Actually there's a clan. I call them clans. Actually it's like the tree I think I sent you a couple of pictures of some of the trees alter type of things. Anyway, those are kind of like their clan marks. And then this the rocks, how they put the rocks together. They mark their territory and they you know, here we're having a lot of logging. Here, we've got timber that's coming down. That's you know, like the place I was talking about, it's four hundred acres that hasn't been touched in all those years, and they're taking it down and that's their home. So they're being they're moving around more, and I've seen them more over the last year. The ones that there's like there's eight, of course there's yet ones. You know, they have young ones. So that's the only time is you really want to be really really is the young ones are very protective and I can I interact. I know it sounds crazy. I kind kind of communicate. It's more mentally not that they're not they're they're physically. This is not any you know, it's not a product of my imagination. These are qassi and blood creatures. You know, they're not. They have different abilities. I figure that out over my lifetime. They can be right beside of you and you won't see them. Uh if they want you to see them, you'll see them. They can that they can turn a certain way, and it's like it's not that they disappear. Yeh. We have different colors. You know, there's the dark the dark ones. We have a white one. Actually there's two white ones that's in this vicinity, and then there's a it's tan. He's he's my young one. And I kind of wondered about them being white, whether it was like, you know, as they get older, you know, like we get gray hair, is that what happens? Do they turn more white? You know? Their hair turned gray? He just you know, have all kind of questions and not like you need to ask somebody for an answer, you know, you just kind of get you to build your own try to figure it out. But now they I see him more, and I think the more with like like I said, with the logging, because it's not just happening here it's been, you know, more and more is happening, and I think we're going to see more of them out out of their element, you know. There. I've got bobcats that's coming into my barns. I have chickens and ducks and geese and guineas and turkeys. I have a little like a poultry farm, and even the bobcats, you know, they're coming into my barn and they're not scared. The coyotes, you know, everything is changing. They're losing their territories, so they're coming more into ours, and so are the watchers. They're they're which we have here. We have a lot of massive cave systems, so they can That's the other thing Dad taught me. He showed me different places different I have different places I go. I do gifting and make I have this it's I make it. I make apple cakes. Oh made apple cake, and that's part of my gifting. I hunted this year. I hadn't hunted for years, but we'd had some flooding and some of the elders are electric. You know the electric it went out for days here. So I still do things for them, and so whenever I hunt, I make sure the watchers gets a portion of my Whatever I get, I give back. So that's what That's how I've been taught. You know that always it was kind of a thing. You know, he was very strict on his belief and how you did stuff. So now I'm going to ask, and it's kind of a rhetorical question, like I don't expect to defendive answer, but Lake, what do you think these creatures are? Do you think they're just lessing blood creature? There something else with them. I know that they have different abilities. I think they're flesh and blood in some ways, they have different abilities. It's like the sound waves. They can kill a battery. I've experienced that. I've experienced a hum where it can knock you down, you know, I've I've been affected that way. And then it's like the cloaking thing I've seen that happen with my own eyes. I've seen them like they're their fur, well we called their fur, their hair, whatever you want to call it. It's shimmers, that's what I call it. I call it a shimmer and but the old Shawnee legend. You know, we like I said, my this is handed down, so it's not my store worries. These are the stories that's been given to me, you know, from generation generation. And the way they said it was the moon you know, in the beginning, the moonlight people came and they had children with the Shawnee and they left behind the watchers to guard those children. Now I know they do attach. You know, God had his My grandmother which like I said, she was born in mid eighteen hundreds, and she interacted with them. Dad talked about her going out. Of course, you know she's Shawnee, so you're picking. You lived off the land, and part of that was you went out and you gathered roots and you know the greens. You know, there's all kind of plants that you eat, and she like wild onions and dandelion, not the flowers now, but the dandelion greens. You do it kind of like I don't know if what will did lettuce and onions green onions, but this is wild onions and then the dandelion green. You know, you take those and you chop that all up and then you render like bacon. You chop that up and then the bacon grease and you put that over. But my grandma liked the green onions. And then where they live back in the holler, and she had her you know, her her onion patch. And Dad said that she shared her onion patch. You know, she would be like on one side pulling onions and I'm assuming it was her you know, her watcher would be there collecting on the other side. So I do know they eat different things. It's not just like meat or you know, they do vegetables and and you know, wild stuff. It's not a well that's how I grew up. I grew up. I knew I can go out and collect My grandma taught me. And you know what greens, you know, that's what we call them greens and that you can eat or you know, like uh the wild grapes and you know all of that, uh and then push guide God dug roots. That was part of our living. So he taught me. You know what he taught all of us kids. You know, that's what I was doing that day of the first time I say it was digging a yellow root patch. And that there's gen saying yellow root, blood root cohosh. You know, we got ginger here, you black snake rate, all of that, and that's all used for medicine and you different things, So we use it and they use this. I'm wondering if because of the Native like Native American traditions there are with you being Shawnnie, there's other ones out west in this, but they all have similar stories about these types of creatures. They're not all called the same thing, but I think it's they're relating to the whole sasquot concept. But I feel like back then things are more prevalent now nowadays for some strange reason, like people just don't want to believe in this type of stuff, right, and clearly people are seeing something. I don't know exactly what they are, but I guess my thing is like recently, have you had any recent sightings, because the biggest thing that I come across lately is people. The reason they don't believe is because of the way technology is. We all have phones, we all have cameras or security cameras. There's never been any bodies, So for a skeptic, it's kind of like, well, these things can't be real because no one ever has a video of no one they ever got a photo of them. What I have figured out is now I've thought, like in the creek, I don't know if I sent you those or not. The footprints from the creek. I have no problem picking, you know, getting the footprints because they're in the mud, in the water or whatever. However, when it comes to a picture, they will zapp of battery. I have trail cameras, they'll distort the cameras. Watched while got two big buckdeers that comes in. I get them on truck and once twelve point fourteen and I got coyotes, and I will see them coming and if they're being trashed, my batteries will be dead. They's out through batteries. Last summer, you know, I had a couple of things happened last summer. They're a group that comes and they do shalls and different things, and I will guide for them sometimes or whatever. And on this night they have been putting out like woof calls and different things. But sometimes I'll get the house back that way as they've recorded them. You know, they haven't actually have calls on my own and I you know mine's not cleaned up. I just have h all the way back to the cassette, know, like the old time cassettes, the old time tape players or WAVINGO colling the cassettes. But then I got the more modern ones. You know, my recorder is more modern now. But on that night, they had been putting out a bunch of calls and they were place enough. Why the one guy asked me, He's like, can you walk back? You know, I go back past my bar. I'm in the woods. Once I leave, get past my bar, and I've got a greenhouse. But I get back in there. You know, I'm in the dark. I'm in the woods. And I had started, you know, he asked me, and I'd come in. I'm still kind of in my work clothes. I put tennis shoes on, but I still had a skirt one. And I walked back. I just had my phone in my hands and I had it turned on to record and see if I could hear their you know, their sounds that they were doing. But as I got okare, I hear a lot of disruption, a lot of almost like the night where they went through the pig can you know that kind of violent right thing? And I got back, you know, back closer to my woods, and I the tiller was back there where we've been working. I had some buckets and uh, one of those red igloo coolers, uh, the small one, and they're just setting there along the tree lines, you know, you know how when you're working, you just set your junk around and all a sudden, Uh, I see the trees been pushed over, you know. I hear the snaps in the in the you know, it's heavy, and that cooler comes flying through the air and it hit me. I mean, it knocked me down, and uh there that well, I'll be honest with you, I think of paiment pants. I ain't gonna try. I ain't gonna lie about it because I'm not real scary person. But I got hit and I got hit hard, and I hear that the growling and the screaming, and I see the trees pushing apart, you know, because it's I mean, it's dark. It's like midnight, so it's dark and there's no light, and I'm thinking, you know, what am I gonna do? And all of a sudden, you know, I see the shape, this huge shape. But the second one came from the other side and he plowed him and he just plows into me. Smaller and so they're you know, they're like they're fighting, and uh, give me a chance to get up. And I got back to the barn because I, like I said, I got stuff coming in, so I keep I keep pump shot gun hid in the barn and I started pulled out and I thought, you dummy, you know, get to the house because I had a note with peace to go as I got across the bridge, across the creek and get all the way back down as I'm when my big house burned, I put in a small cabin down by the end of the was easier for squads and stuff, and I could hear them all the way down through there. Well, I did pick up on the recorder the screens. I didn't get no pictures. But honestly, I never thought about it. The retruthful you know a lot. I think a lot of the thing of it is when you see something like that and it's close up, it kind of goes out of your mind. You know, it's not I guess if I was intentionally out there looking, which I don't do that. I'm not a researcher. I'm just it's just part of my life. So and as far as the bodies. They tend their own. It's like the Shawnee believe. You bury your own, you tend to your own. And we still do that. Like when some of my family passes away, we all get together, we go, we did the graves. You know, we're you know, it's more modern day. You can't do like the old days. But you bury your own and you tend your own dead. I mean, I when my family passes away, which I can't say it ain't hard, but I bathe them, do their hair. You know, that's part of my heritage and part of who I am. And I will my family or my heritage by not doing that. And in my I believe they're the same way. I believe they When something happens, you're not going to find it unless you know, if you find a burial or something, and there is so much cave systems and they're going underground. I do know that they frequent cemeteries. I don't know if it's because of their attachment to certain people and that's their way of still oh didn't want to get that attachment by visiting the cemetery or maybe that person's buried or whatever. I don't know, you know, I'm not. I just speculate, you know, whatever you you know, try to figure it out in your own mind. But I've heard stories where different people report seeing Bigfoot type creatures and even other creatures hanging around cemeteries, a lot and old burial ground for Native Americans. So I've often wondered if they're not some sort of protective type of a spirit type physical creature. Right. Well, I'll see that my family burials, these are Shawnee burials, These aren't you know, like you go to the cemetery, these are in the woods and my burials are here, and I still, you know, my dad tended them. I tend them, and they do you know, they are in that area. And like I said, I think it's the attachment. And it goes back to the old story. You know, they were left here to protect the children, the children of the children and the children of the children, you know, generation to generation. And that's how they explain, that's how they said the moonlight people came. Now, whether they're meaning you know, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm aliens or you know that, I don't know. I have seen some things in my lifetime. I do have some artifacts and their heads, their carved heads that's been handed down over hundreds of years. And. A couple of those carvings they're stone and they're they're small if it to palm your hand, but if you look at them and you look out, they call them the moonlight people. The big round eyes. Yeah, I know what you mean, heart shape. Well, actually like what your picture is, right, Uh so you if you kind of get that drift, you know, and and you know, I'm sure with you know, the Native Americans, the Shawnee back then to see, there's a lot of pitt the Glyphs. And I've worked a lot of Pitt the Glyphs sites with different people I did, I've actually worked. I'm a dowser. You know what do you know what a dowser is, right, Yeah, like a dowsing rod. Well, I use dousing rods. I had the old family of the peach stick. But there's a lot of rules that goes with that too, and it does more than just find a vein of water. That's that's the whole thing of it. So a few years ago we had a crop circle come down here by surfing now on local and it kind of looked like Mickey mouse had there was three different circles and they had asked me to come and uh uh dowsage for lay lines or whatever. And when I got there, I made it into the first circles and as soon as I stepped into that circle, it literally it was like this wave of energy hit me so hard my nose burst out, bleeding, just like you know, like you turned to stick it on and I, you know, I pretty much you know, it's almost like you're you know, I'm gonna pass out. And so I told him, I was like, you know, I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna back out because I don't like the way it feels. And if they got some really outrageous measurements on that, it's kind of like you blew up a giant microwave that went down in the ground of a mile. So, you know, they had a lot of people come and they did a lot of research, not not local yocals, these were huh yeah, more learned. And so I've seen, you know, I've seen in my lifetime, I've seen some different things and I think maybe, yeah, maybe it does all go together. I'm not saying that a you know, a spaceship comes drops off the watchers and picks them back up. I don't believe that. I believe they're here. They live here. They get very good at staying head when they want to be. They interact with different people. They've always been here, you know, from what I understand. You know what I've figured out from my dad, my grandma. You know, they've always been here. Okay, you know, many many generations. I've talked to someone before and they believe that almost the same type of like the legend or whatever. But they replaced here along with humans, and they were used back in the day for whatever purposes. They had all of them, and then after I don't want to call the moon eight people, but in their minds they called them aliens. They were after they were done, they left and they left those here and they left us here. But basically they were It's almost like the ancient astronaut there. They created us to do their labor for them, and when they didn't need us anymore, they just left us here. And that's how the Sasquatch is still around us, how humans are still around because we were manufactured. Basically. It was like, I don't know if I believe all that, but. Well, I don't know about that. Like I said, the way I was you know, the way I was told was, you know, it's like the Shawnees. You know, they've always been here their native you know, this was our land. You know, this is where we came from. And then when they came they had children with the Shawnee. There's actually well I don't want to go into the it's a blood type. You know, there's different things that actually goes along with it, and I have researched it and it kind of works out. But you know, these are the children of the moon eyed people and the humans, you know, the Shawnee, and then the watchers are their guardians. You know, they left them behind to watch over their you know, the children that they had with certain people or whatever. I'm not saying that they had you know that they had children with all the Shawnee. I think there was you know, a certain amount or certain ones were chosen whatever, and then those children are watched over. I work with veterans and I actually worked with I've been taking care of an elderly gentleman. Him and his father actually were for NASA and they built jet engines. And he told me a story about him and his father. Uh he was younger, you know, like an these teenage years or whatever. And they were actually building in Indiana. They were working on this big jet engine h thing, they do research and development. And they had left and we're coming home and uh he said that this right light came over the car. The car quit running, and his father, of course, he's like, my mom was going crazy. She's crying and screaming, and only Dad tells her shut up. Who's gonna knock her out? You know, I scared our guests, and not that he would knock her out, but you know what I mean. And uh, he said Dad got out of the car. And now his father was one of the main people doing this, you know, building this and for the research and everything. And he said that light was over him the car. Whendn't you know the car quit They had a you know, this is a lot of junk car. This is a very good car. And then it, you know, the light went away and the car started and they left and he said, like the next day they had a huge meeting. I got permission before I ever told this story because it's not you know, they've released all the alien stuff and said they're not so secret, secret because he has a high clearance. Very and he said they had a big meeting and you know back then, of course he's eighty one, so you know this would have been in oh see it maybe around maybe this nineteen sixties or something like that when he's happened. And Brian Hauser was one of the German engineers they brought over, you know, after the war, you know, part of their deal, I guess. And they had this meeting with all of high upity up these and finally he says, you know what happened is you know they have scanned him, so they know everything. We know that his father had a complete breakdown. He said, you know, the doctor would come to the house and you give his dad, met his son. These people who came every week, gave his mom a check, give his father medication or whatever he needed, take care of everything they needed and then you and this went on, promised a year before he finally got back to his self. And then you know he he continued to work, but he was never the same. But however, you know this eardly gentleman tell you know, he's told me his story about being taken. Now I take him to doctor's appointments. I've dealt with him for thirty years, and about seven years ago he had to have some heart surgery and I'd taken him in and then the doctor comes and asks me. He's like, did he have some kind of infusions or something? Because he has an antibody in his bloodstream that we cannot identify. And this is veterans because he's a veteran. And it's like nothing that you know, I've been doing this all these nothing that I know I don't know about before and that he's like, well, we can't identify it. And the other thing is, now this man has never had certainly he never had anything done to him. However, in his knee, under his left kneecap, there is a chip that they can't take out. They can't explain how it got there, and they don't know what it is. So he's told me, you know that over his lifetime, from the time he was a teenager, he would be taken. So I believe him. Yeah, first off, you don't know whether to believe or not, but it's evidence that kind of substantiates what he's had to say. Yeah, I always try and and keep an open mind. I don't necessarily try and believe everything someone says, just because you have to be grounded. But I don't want to take it as everyone's lying either, like I think people are for the most part being genuine. Right what you know, you hear these I've heard tall tales my whole life, you know, and some are tall tales. And but it was just like the kind of work they did, who they worked for, and I see, you know, taking care of me, and then for the doctor to tell me like I don't understand, He's like, we don't, you know, we have no idea you know what this is or why he didn't have it that this man has a mind you would not believe. I call him like, I'm a diuiver. There's nothing he can't do, There's nothing he cannot create, there's nothing he can't mate. And he's like this, yeah, him, and this is what him and his father did and really kind of amazing. Really, But I always I'm one of those you know, you have to show me or whatever. So that's kind of how I that's kind of how I am, Like I want to believe, but until I actually see it for myself, I'm always gonna have a little bit of doubt. We've been going on for almost an hour, so I was gonna ask if there's anything else you'd like to discuss before we get ready to wrap this one up, If anything else like I've you experienced or anything. Well, I've had numerous experiences, Like I said last year, I actually had the one I wanted, chasing a deer and nearly put a log through my windshield because like I hung in the back country and on the back grades. The only the other thing was I have did people talk about dog men, which I never believed. I'll be truthful, I've heard wild stories about that and how they were created. But in October, i'd actually do a hike and I would had went on a hike with a couple other girls and we were leaving it. We did like a six mile hike back way back in the deep country, and we was coming back and as we was coming about the last mile of our hike, I could see something in the road up in front of us, and first I thought it was, uh, you know, it's dark shape. So I'm like, what is that a turkey? You know, because I didn't realize how far away it was, and we just kept going on and on and on, and then realizing how far away we really was. And as we're move and I see it, it's tracking back and forth, back and forth. Crowd. There's like a trail, and you know, we have to go. There's no way to get out except to go that way. There's no way for us to get and we kept going and there was a dough jumped up on the right hand side of the where we were walking the trail, and the one girl she picked up a stick. She's like, uh, I hope that's not a dog. Somebody turned loose, you know, because it looked like a dog is getting to look like a dog and a big dog. And she's like, I hate it when they do that, you know. And it's like, because I carry a gun if I'm piking or whatever, I don't you know. I carry a gun because there's snakes, there's coyotes, there's all kinds of critters in the woods, and then you never know who you've got running into. So that's why tours. I guess, all right, I carry a gun, So I moved it around. I'm kind of a cautious thing, and I carried in a pouch and I already zipped it, and I kind of moved it around so I could get my hand down in if I had to. We kept going and then this it was it's a figure and it looked like a German shepherd, you know, it's it was just like the farther we went, the bigger it got, and finally at the very end we were getting closer, and again I'm thinking it's a joint. You know, I was like, my god, what kind of how big of this dog is this thing? Because I'm getting worried about walking past it. You know, it was just just back and forth and back and forth, and then it went off to the right hand side. But once it went off to the site, it came up off of four legs. Uh. Then I still, you know, question is that somebody playing with a dog? Is a dog jump it up after a ball? You know, you always always question everything. But by the time we came out, we were about maybe fifty sixty yards from the parking lot where the car was, and again, you know, it was just silent, dead silent. It was getting dark, and all we want to do is just get through there and get to the car. And it was just like every hair stood up, you know, you got this sense of something's not right, and so I had my daughters, she has a new car, and I hit the key fob, you know, to unlock the doors, and the battery and the key fob is dead. Now, it wasn't dead when we got out, and so I had to unlock the door by hand and get in. So I'm not sure what we saw, you know, people like, did you see a dog man? It's like I I will say that I don't know. Whatever it was came up on two legs. Did it have a head of a dog? You know, it had a body? All right? Yeah, So I don't know that's you know, I'm not going to say that's what it was. But there was something different and that was that was absolutely a new one for me. That was a complete surprise. I've never been to that area before. The girl took me there. I you know, this was her area, not mine. I'd never been there before. Oh that was different. Right, Yeah, I can definitely relate to that one. But well, Donna, it's been a pleasure talking to you. Thank you for having me. If you'd like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales podcast at gmail dot com or go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to the contact section. Make sure to follow me around on all this social media is and just remember truth comes at a cost. Are you willing to pay the price? I've heard a story be laid last night about something alert along a wood line, huge. Foot print, strange lights in the sky. They claim it's nothing, but I know they light it seesier laughing to laugh in my face. But something about this makes me say, what if it's real? What if they knew? What if The answers are coming from you, spending story, wasting minds time. Hearing boy says, is it all in their minds? 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