Ep. 207: Backwoods Kentucky Ghost Hunters

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw. The top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes as soon as I made eye contact with this thing and don't wake Death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Tonight, we are joined by several guests. First, as Angel, let's say, you've also got two gentlemen with you, Timmy and Dwayne. Thanks for coming on here tonight and join with me. Before we get into it, though, would you guys like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself. My name is Timmy. I'm one of the co founders of Blackwood Kentucky ghost Hunters Law with my wife Grace Kennison or Angel Kennison, and we have a group here in Orangsboro, Kentucky. We have a hot location that we rent out and stuff at three LL nine Hill Avenue. We have people coming all the time. Grace has been been a paranormal investigator since two thousand and nine, Me around twenty or so, and Dwayne wherever. I've been doing eight well with y'all. Yeah, I've been with y'all several years. What got you guys into the whole paranormal aspect? Actually I started doing it with us and then I got him going into it. Had me and a neighbor used to do it together. Was there something that got you interested in the whole phenomenon? Oh? Yeah. For me, I've seen some stuff and then I just want I was curious to see what else was out there. So that's basically with me. Yeah, that statement here, it's just early age, you know, having with what I thought was experiences and stuff, and then I was just kind of curious on what really was out there was afterwards, you know, if they get there is right. I feel like someone always usually has some sort of an experience or something that peaks are bringing two wanting to look into further into these type of topics, these type of activity. It's for me personally, it's uh. I try and remain skeptical a lot of the time, so I don't necessarily go out and look for this type of stuff. But I know a lot of people to do. Sorry, from just from the people that I've talked to, there's always been usually something that sets a whole situation up for him. Is there anything, uh, from the stuff that you've guys have experienced you'd like to share. Well, I know in l City, we used to investigate a hospital several times, and every time we went, we always got something from there quite a bit. And I don't know, it's just a lot of times you go places and you don't get stuff, but you know that's part of it. But it's it's fascinating. I mean, I try to look at it as like with the orbs and stuff. It could be dust and all that, but sometimes you can't explain some of the stuff it does so how it reacts things. And well, right, no, I understand what about the rest of you guys. Up here, We're we're really sparke, But I guess. We've moved here since. Three years now, three years in July. And when we moved in here, we didn't know what was on it at the time, but as soon as we came here, things start happening. And so. Well, do you have a lot of experiences here. One of them's David and he, you know, does a lot of stuff up here, and a lot of people come and see him and talk to him and try to get his story. Now, you said his name's David. How did you guys come across how'd you figure out what his name was? Uh? We have a lady that came that her mom and her brother used to do business with them, and he owned the jewelry store here and he was thirty one when he went off. First he went missing. He was gone for several years, and there's newspaper clippings. He went off to Lexington and then he came back and he was here for a little while, and then he went off with some jewels and then he was gone. I guess, I guess a couple of days and he was down in Bowling Green and someone either they say he either shot hisself or someone shot him, which we've asked and he said someone else done it. His jewelry store was here, and he was thirty one when he passed away. And I have all the newspaper clippings. What year did you say this happened? Oh you may let yeah, I'll say I got all the newspaper clippings. Now, I was just curiously. We bought the ass several times. I can know who we were talking to his stuff, and quite often on the voice box, it comes back David. I bought a spirit box myself here recently, and yep, I haven't really used it very much. I've tried it out over the weekend because we were out filming some stuff for the documentary I'm doing. But that is, we didn't get anything on that. Now they usually I noticed, like what I'd got in mind that at first I wasn't getting anything. But the more I used it, it seems like it starts doing better. You start getting things for it. The more I guess you get used to, like the different knobs on it and stuff and how to work it, because it took me a little while how to figure out, you know, where to put the knobs, how to set it to where I'm kind of get some answers to it because sometimes there'd be nothing butt static. It was February in nineteen seventy eight. Yeah, okay, so basically thirty five six years, forty seven years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, one of the ladies who've come down here, she she does the library and she she went and she printed all this all for us from different like newspapers and this, that and the other. And you know, it's just as. We're in the metro Quirre Lexington. Harold Lexington, Harold it said Jewelry turns to Onesborough and he was. When he passed away in Nashville. Yes, is there any other spirits or anything else that you've guys have come across in this area. Well here recently we have got a little girl that has been frequently around. We've got on the uh the portal box for two or three times every time we did. Now she comes through and uh we we post on our website like when Grace and me or me and Duane and Grace get stuff on the portal box, uh we put we put the video one there where people can hear it herself, you know, like Grace put a doll down an old nineteen twenties doll on the couch and then she put the porter box down, and as soon as she puts it down, the girl says, what is that? So you know, I mean, it's just as plain as day in a girl's voice. You know. We don't have any newspaper clippings or anything. Yeah, right, We don't know if they were just passer buyers or we were a woman a. Lot which we don't have any documentations on it, but we've picked up on her. The only one I really know about it is the Jewish story guy, And we talked to people used to have There was a a woman and her daughter had like a market here in the same place, and uh, they got to wear at nighttime. They when he come down, they wouldn't come down nineteen at all, they said, because there was this two earie like during the day they were fine, but when when it's time to go, they forgot something. They wouldn't come back to the next day to the morning time. And we've heard stories and we've talked to people used to be here and stuff. So that's just what they told us. And me and Grace knew nothing about all this right here. When we done the auction, house. Here, you kind of inherited not just the place, but whatever is in there too. What it's almost like you inherited, not just no, you're I say items, like you've inherited the place and whatever was in there too when you end up getting the place. Three years in July, yea. Is my first experience. We were moving stuff out, uh that people have left here, and me and Grace was moving a dresser out and she's seen the shadow figure and the door closed in the room that we were in. So that was our very first experience here. You know, of course, being paranormal investigators, you think you said, man, that's all right. You know what about before you guys moved in, you said you had some experiences that kind of led you down this pathway. What was some of those? Mine was the house that we used to live in for me when. I was little. I remember when my pat Ball came to see me, and this is before I even knew that he had passed away. And a little bit later my brother came out and told me my mom wanted to talk to us inside. And then when we went in, it was funny because I said saw him as it was him. I mean, I didn't even think of it being a spirit. He looked solid to me. And then when we went in, my mom told me that he had passed away in the hospital. He had died of cancer. They kind of kept it from. Us kids at first, so I mean, I think that was kind of my first experience of it. But I mean, as far as getting into it, I guess I stories kind of wondered, you know, was was that just the kid's imagination that it happened, or did it really happen. I've heard other people say similar things, like of I believe as someone's grandfather had passed away if I remember right, and she had saw her grandfather, but it couldn't have been him because he had just passed away, but she didn't know that well, So. That's pretty much what happened to me. And it's and even when I saw him, I mean, because we lived wide a ways away from each other, it didn't strike me as funny or anything that he was there and he was telling me everything was okay. I feel like that is something that does seem to happen for a lot of people, and I think that is again I'm no expert. I I don't know anything, but in my opinion, I feel like that is whatever, whoever it is, it's their way of moving on. But they're letting the other people know that they're. Okay, yes, yeah. You said you grew up in a hanted house. What was some of the stuff that's gone on there? Well, I didn't grow up in the heart. Well I mean I did grow up in the house, but I didn't know things start happening. So I was already married and I moved back into the same house, and then just weird crap would happen there. And then that's how I got into it. Me and neighbor was like, he was like, we'll take a picture it and when you think something's going on, and I'm like no, and family, I did and we caught something and then I was scared after that, and then I was like, okay, I can't be like that. So then that's when me and Hirst started going out and doing things, and then I drug him into it. He wouldn't interested in it at first, but he went along. Anyway. When he's ever experienced anything until this year, he don't really hear things, see things, or anything. I feel like that doesn't happen for a lot of people. If you go out looking for the stuff, usually you don't find it. But it's the stuff that you're not looking for is when you actually notice it. So yeah, and until you have actually have an experience, I think it's hard for people to have that experience or at least recognize them. Now he started. He started having his experience after he died twice. See back in January. You might have asked, what happened. We really don't know what happened other than he had to get a pacemaker. And they don't know to have no explanation what he wasn't even sick. And now he sees things, here's things. And now I'm just like Grace. I don't know how to correlate all that. But then let's say I went out for five minutes at a time or twice my heart quld beat in that flat line for five minutes at time. Uh, then they put a pacemaker. I mean I have done it since and h but. Now he sees thing and here's things he never heard before. Yeah, he hears things I don't hear. Maybe I'm just open more open now, I guess, or or they made me more open. I feel like maybe when people and it's a cliche saying, but like when you touch the veil or if you cross over just for a little litle bit, it opens you up more. Yees, yeah, to the other side. Yes, I believe it because I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really honestly. My my two experiences I had. One of them was in a graveyard and I had a flashlight on a tombstone and I was asking questions and I told her to turn the light on the tombstone, and something hit my back pocket and turned the light on that I had in my back pocket instead of the tombstone light. That was that. And we went to a graveyard and I got a picture of the miner that haunts the uh uh cemetery and that was my That was my two experiences for ten years, twelve years A lot now. Hell, I hear ship now and everything else. Yeah, that's that's something that I've heard from multiple people that it's like they've had near death experiences and it makes them more susceptible towards experiencing other things. Yeah, I believe it. I'm a fun believer in it because I sure it did. Matter of fact, I was talking to some other paranormal guy. And he told me the same thing. He had a heart attack, right, yeah, he had a heart attack. And he said, well, now I hear things and I see shadow figures. Now I can sense things. I say, yes, I know what you mean. I said, every sense of Pacemaker. I see everything in the gray sea. Grace is a sensitive She knows a lot of stuff. She has dreams about things that's gonna happen, and we can walk around and she can tell me what she senses in a room and stuff like that. Now I'm not as as a father along as that is, but I'm a starter what she is. You're just beginning your journey. I'll just beginning. That's right. I just got my wings. I will say. And this is not to sound the like a warning or anything, but sometimes once you start getting these experiences, they don't always turn out to be the best like one. No, You're can have some stuff that come through the are not the not the greatest of spirits to want to come through, not the greatest of energies, And it does open you up for even some dark stuff. So just always make sure when you're doing investigations or whatever. From what I've been told by other people. Is to always make sure you have some sort of protection for yourself. Yes, yes, I know a lot of groups will actually do like a prayer thank you, you know for speaking with us, but they need to stay where they're at and when the group is leaving and not the follow them home. Yeah. Uh, you'll find several groups to it usually do a prayer at the end to close the door, as you call it. Yeah, I think. Uh, there's other podcasters that I know that have I don't want to call it a ritual, but they do like almost like a prayer or they say something or whatever, because they believe when you even talk about this type of stuff, it opens up even like just doing like this conversation we're having now. Sometimes speaking about stuff like that is almost opening a doorway for other things. And I don't know if I necessarily believe in all that, but it is something that I always kind of keep in the back of my mind. That's kind of why I don't do my right. I moved out of my house in order to do this show, and I have my own little studio now that's not attached to my house because I was having some weird stuff going at my house and I thought maybe this show was part of the reason why there were weirder things going on, so I, as a precaution, get it out of there. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. I mean, honestly, that's that's the truth about it. You know, at our house we have antiques and pictures canes, and then we have stuff going on their own house that I built twenty two years ago, you know, And and I think it's a lot of times it's the stuff inside the house that makes the difference thirty two years yeah, basically thirty two years ago. Yeah. Yeah, It's like some people won't they won't use a wiki board at all, and then that's some they won't use it in the house. Yeah, that they I'll have to do it like outside of somewhere else. But the way that opening the door and then that can cause bobbins in the house. There are a lot of things that I would not recommend doing, and the Luigi board is one of those superstitious things that I won't mess with. But yeah, when I got this spirit box, and I've always been told by people to never never do any sort of like paranormal investigating of where you live at and when I got the spirit box. I turned it on just to make sure it was working mm hm, and my son had asked me if what it was, and I tried to explain to him. It's like, is that the thing that talks? I said yes, and I turned it on. And my wife had already warned me not to do anything in the house because she's very very doesn't want anything to do with any of this stuff. And yes, that sounds like I said, is there anything out there? And it was going as it was skating, then it goes it sounds like a lady's voice. He goes hello, and I instantly just turned it off. I was like, well, it's working, but but. Yeah, that's you know, honestly, that's true. I mean a spirit boxing and honestly you boards same thing. Yeah, that is communication. You're inviting something at that point. Yes, and that is. With me just in case I don't with me to I said, I've got. We're still here tomorrow, so I take my stuff home. Yeah, I've got my stuff all out here in my studio, so I don't even keep it in the house. So it also normally I keep everything detached from where I live. That way, any sort of bad juju or any type of negativity or anything like that. It's literally contained out the where it's at out here, and I've got little protective symbols and other things around this place to try. And I feel like I'm a paranoid lunatic sometimes when I do stuff like that. But for me, it's the. First time we went out. We went with my cousin and we went out and had these crosses and this stuff, and he's like, you're never going to find anything with all this stuffs. Yeah, sometimes when like, okay, sometimes you might go a little. Overboard, but. That's what you're saying. So I don't. I don't I quit that as I. Go and fish and I use no bait. Right. We were working on a documentary, me and a couple of other people, and we were out this past weekend and I'd had some of this stuff. And I mentioned this earlier, like that we weren't picking anything up on the spear box, but I was going out there with these meters and everything. And the area that we were at is an old battle ground from back in eighteen twelve, from when the army came through and wiped out a bunch of the Native Americans that lived around here. So we were out there and I was asking questions, I was trying to get readings and everything, and everyone says, this is one of the most highest areas of paranormal activity. And I didn't get a single thing. So it's a little discouraging because you always hear about people coming out and saying that they always experienced this stuff. I was like, in the time I go out there, we don't experience anything, right. But we've been places that get stuff and then we've gone back thinking oh, well we're going to get a bunch of stuff and getting nothing. Yeah, that is the like it is fishing and in. A st yea we drove ken ours. One has been whole weekend and got good stuff, scary stuff, but then turn around and go back two years later and getting that absolutely nothing. It's just part of the whole thing. It's, uh, you never know what's going to happen. You never know what you're gonna get. I've had people send me EVPs and I've listened to it and it's some creepy ship that you don't even know who it could be. And then yes, you hear I had someone send me something from an old hospital and you hear a little girl's voice. And then I've had someone recently send me something and you hear her nephew plain as day, and he'd recently passed away. Yes, so I have my aunt on recording up here and she's passed away, oh what four or five years ago, and I got her singing up here on the recorder. On the camera recorder, we get a lot of. Art by the camera, and we do the EVP too. But like during the auction of stuff, we have cameras running and people will walk by and move their head and well, I ask them, hey, what'd you hear. We'll go back and listen to the camera. We hear them they'll say hello, hey, ha, you know, stuff like that just out of the blue. And we get a lot of ours like that right there. And we got one guy won't come back. Yeah, you have an experience with less and he have been back since. I have a couple of cameras set up out here for security, and the one that's inside that's on my desk that faces like the entry, it will randomly go off and it sends me notifications to my phone so I can see it live. And it also records anytime there's movement, and there's been a few times it records movement, and one time was a shadow moving across the desk and I've never been able to figure out what that was. And then you can also see something on the wall start to move. I thought it may have been the air condition, but it was just random that it only happened once, and that air had been running all summer so widened down. Did it trigger it? And then just recently it went off in the middle of the night and said that there was a package being delivered. Oh, I didn't have anything being delivered in the middle of the night. I said there was a package, and I thought that was strange. I had a recording and a notification on my phone. But sometimes a package will come up there to be a person. Yeah. It always goes off when it sees me too. It'll send me a warning that there's someone in the area. I was like, well, that's me. I know I'm in here. Thanks for letting me know. We'll be at home watching TV and the camera systrom here kick on and saying there's a package or something and of course no one's here. Yeah, No, that's that's some of the best. It always freaks me out. I always hope I want to catch something very interesting, but other than the shadow, I've never been able to pick anything up on these cameras, but I hold out hope. What kind of camera? What kind of cameras do you have to be? One hundred percent of these are just the cheaper Roku security camera system. Yes, but that's what I got the Square one. Yeah, they've worked really good. We've had thousand dollars systems and not great. These are great. I had a couple other ones that were wired, and when I made this studio, I didn't want to have to try and wire them the way I did, so this these are set up differently and they work so I have no complaints and I pay for the subscription. So it's yeah, it's worth it. Just they We've got like fifteen cameras up here, I think fifteen or sixty. Something like that, so it's always good to have it. And then just because of it's not that I don't for me, it's more for security purposes, so I know what's going on around my air. But for me, I'm also thinking, like I hope I catch something on these cameras, Hope something walks by that's what we have ours for. I randomly get like a bunny rabbit or something hopping by or some other things, but it's not I think maybe one day I'll catch something cool there. You go, like up here when we moved in the house, is it's like a separate part from the like the pole barn, it's all under it's two separate roofs. Anyway, we have a hallway and to keep the auction people out of our where they do investigation and stuff like that, I'll put a door in and uh to keep separate right right there by the bathrooms and that door right there where I we assume where it never was a door there before, where the door just opens up. You hear two clicks and the door open up. I've wondered before. Now there's different there's different types of hauntings. I think you have your residual hauntings where that's kind of like it's time stamp, where things are just repeating itself over and over. But then you have your intelligent hauntings, and I think that's where you start to get some sort of activity to where they answer the questions because they know what you're saying. Yeah, they opened things which I think being able to interact with stuff and move things and open things, to me, that seems more with people. I guess I don't know where it splits off at. But you hear about Poltergeist, and that's when they're like, oh, there's bad things have Things are being thrown around, things are being not. That's when they stopped getting moved around broken. We have a tornado outside your house. That's a little rough, but if it's. Had a candlestick moved here before. But I mean, we don't have anything bad going on here. When I was younger, I don't honestly think I've said anything on this show before, but when I was younger, there was I was at a friend's house and I didn't actually I've seen it happen, but I don't know exactly where how it happened. That there was a ketchup bottle on the table that flew off the table, and I don't know if maybe just something in the house caused it to fall off, but it was freaky, like they claimed the house was haunted and then that happened. So it's like, I don't really know, I just remember that event happening, like so yeah, I did someone bumped the table. I don't remember anyone walking by it. I don't it fell off the table. I can't say it's paranormal, but I just know it fell off the table. But when you hear them talk about how the house was haunted, it adds it adds some credence to it. So it's like, is that. But I've had other weird stuff that's gone on in my home personally that I'm not gonna bring up because I've talked about it enough. But there's always weird things going on, and I'm always the type of person that wants to try and rule things out first. Yes, it's the stuff that you can't rule out that really gets to you. Yeah, we're trying to do bunk everything, and something happens up here. We're always trying to figure out what could cause it, what would do it, and normally sometimes we can't. There have been times we have figured it out. I don't want that door. We had camera on both sides, one on one side, one on the other. You hear two clicks and then the door opens and Grace has asked before it, David, can you open the door. I'm my hands are full and I'm coming through there, and at times it's it's I just opened up after you know, Grace said it, and Dwayne said one time he said, you know, you can open the door. That's pretty impressive. Now, if you can shut the door, that would really be good. And later on that night, wasn't it slam Later on that night it's slam shut. We've got it on. You haven't done that before, slam shut. That's the first time. And only it's definitely something. Is this proven it stuff? He can do it? Or I think it's which. We talked to David every time we come up and we're like, how you doing, David, And everybody up here and knows about David, and everybody talks to him. Even our customers come talk to him. Yes, he seems to like Potho who's never been here before. He seems to almost like he likes meeting people. But usually when they're here for the first time, especially if they're investigating, they're going to get stuff. David Lesson, he's he's never done anything bad to anybody, but I could see what some people. You know, something happens and then they get scared, but it's not that they did anything wrong. It's just they get scared cause something happened. I've always thought it was funny that people will want to go out and investigate this end up getting scared, and even the people like on TV your Zach Began's and everything from Ghost Adventures. Yes, and then when something happens and the reaction they get and they get freaked out everything. I was like, you literally do this for a living. At this point, I've done that before. Yeah, I still get excited when something happens. I mean like like nothing's ever happened before or something. It just yeah, adrenaline gets puffing excite. It's just the over being. Maybe it's just me and the way I'm wired, but like, if I'm going to go out and do something like this, and I'm not going to get scared by it if I'm out looking for it, unless a brick comes flying at my head and I'm like, all right, that's a little you're trying to kill that at this point, but. I've done it before. When we first started, we were in the graveyard and I was filming. I was fucking filming him doing his investigation, and then I felt like something was about to attack me. So I went to the car and my mom was like, why'd you go to the car for it and get you in the car? And I was like, okay, So that was the last time I ever got scared. Yeah, I've went on a couple different investigations with people before and it kind of turned me off just because everything was paranormal. And I'm the type of person, like I said earlier, that wants to not say everything's paranormal until you really know and exactly. That doesn't make a difference. You know, people say, well this is and that's what I told Grace, Like up here right if they said, well, you know we went to places, they say, well, that door opened right there, or you can get a shadow figure down here, what ours? We have a video showing what happened. We're showing what voices we get and stuff like that. Other than hearsay, and I would tell Grace that thought. To me, in my mind, that's always the best cold. You say earlier that you have a a group or a website or wherever you post up your stuff. Yes, what was it called? Ye, it's called Backwoods Kentucky ghost Hunters. Okay, it's on Facebook. But Grace puts it on Facebook, and like I said, on her private and she does on backwood Tucky ghost hunders and we'll get it like an EVP or the camera kit something and Grace have put on her. This is what we think it said. When I gonna say, but what do y'all hear? And it's amazing there's a difference what people hear. Yeah, it's everyone's listening to the same thing, but two or three people's hearing it's saying something different. It is interesting that it does happen that way because I know of other people people to do the same situations. They will not say what they think they hear, or they'll ask did you hear anything? And then you will get different answers from different people because of the way that they interpret stuff. And if anything is you can go back and listen to it again. Is then you hear it too? Yeah, it's yeah, it's power suggestion, it's it's basy. So you hear three or four different things in one one word. It's very interesting and I've often wondered, I don't know how to like, I don't know the process of how things are able to say that we can't hear, but it's on a recording and we can hear it, you know what I mean. Yeah, my brain I struggle with understanding how it's capable because it's very electronic based, so again electricity, which is basically what we all have our own electrical energy anyways. But it's like it's implemented into this recording, but we can't hear it ourselves. No I have. Well, it's like it's just like you can look into a room, you don't see nothing in there, but you take a picture of it anyway, and then you see some type of image in the picture, but yet you stood there and you didn't see nothing. Recording is the same way. You don't hear it, but yet the recording picked up a voice. It's just it's funny how all that works. Like day and sometimes you do see an image, you know, and you actually see it, like walking down the hallway or something. I have seen a very small eighteen inch shadow running down my hallway a little over a year ago, and I gave chase to it. It ran into my daughter's room and I ran into her room as she was sleeping in her bed. I don't know where the little shadow went, but if I found it, I was going to kick it across the room, but right, just because the stuff that's been here is not the greatest of things. And that is the one time that I've actually physically seen something Like We've had other things happen, but nothing that I actually was able to see with my own eyes. So what is eighteen inches tall that runs on two legs? I have no idea. It doesn't like even if it's a spirit's very small. It's less than two feet tall running down the hallway. I don't know how to describe it other than a. Little It's something that's not natural, of a. Very strange and it's always everything that's always ever happened here, always seems to happen in this back area of our house, which is where my daughter's bedroom is, and all the weird activity has always been centered in her bedroom ever since we've moved in. So has she ever said anything about her will? I mean, does she ever see anything? Or There is a whole lot to unpack with that, And I can talk to you off air about it. I don't want to bore the audience with because they've all heard it before, but uh, yeah, there is There's been a lot that she deals with and we've dealt with that goes on here. But is there anything else that you guys would like to discuss? So you said you're doing a look right. I'm working on filming a documentary about a lot of the weird stuff that goes on in my hometown. We have a lot of weird cryptids stuff, We've had a lot of weird paranormal stuff, a lot of UFO stuff, And I've figured out that it all is centralized around this very specific geographic area from where all these reports are, and I've got things mapped down and I've started to notice patterns and there's just a lot of weird high strangers going on in this small little community. You know. Funny you say that me and Grace used to go to a face that was about forty five minutes from where we live at and we would call it spook Heel. Well that's what they called it. Yeah, but it was it was so crazy, Uh they say the town got so hanted. People just picked up and the left all their ship there. It's called Alsie Kentucky, It's what it's what it's called. Now, what side of what side of Kentucky are you? We are in on Kentucky right right? You know where Evans, Indiania. Okay, well, then there's Henderson, Kentucky, and there were next after Henderson. That's how I like it. But that we would go over there. We actually seen UFO flights over there. It was so crazy. They had a cemetery up in there in that woods and uh at times we could we go over there and take five minutes to find it. The time takes two hours. Mmm. Then the person in our group looking through the UH Infra red binoculars and he said, whatever it is over, I said, a priest against the tree, pointing his finger of that direction, and we walked right over. In two minutes we was in it. It was. It was just crazy. But they said that was an Indian India, Indian barrel grounds right there, you see, like the bold part of it. And they said that's what caused a lot of that. There is a lot of that around here too, and I think that has a lot to do with the activity. Yes, yeah, every time we went there, it was something. They had it late. They said, don't let darkness catching that late, and they said they had They interviewed fishermen that stayed in the boat all right long until daybreak to get out. I mean it was just crazy. I mean you think yourself, well, hell, I'm gonna go see what that's about. Right, we go where dark you know, say hey, let's go up in it. And it was it was different. Hot spots. Yeah, there's always specific areas that are always told I don't know what it is, but I don't know when you said hot spots. There's a lot of high energy areas and there's always a lot of weird activity in these specific areas. And yes, some of the areas that I've noticed are usually around water, and I think water is a conduit for the energy. Yeah, sometimes I say, like this under groundwater that can cause it to and stuff like that. That's where some of these spots come from. Yeah, it's just not to spoil everything from my documentary, but I think a lot of the stuff that I'm in instigating is literally based around all these river systems, because there's three different river systems that all come around here, and the rivers themselfs actually make a triangle. But right, that interesting and. If you go off and like you can connect the points and everything else, they kind of all run into each other and it all kind of makes a triangle and a lot of high strangers in there. So it's like I'm calling it the Mississino All Triangle because literally it is a triangle, and I know. It is funny how that shape seems to come up alt. But no, we've got a lot of interviews already recorded, and we've been out in the woods this past weekend and got a lot of actual investigation stuff that we need to get filmed, and then hopefully by the later this year we'll have it already to be released. Please keep us informed on that. I'd like to check that out. Do you do any big food hunting? That is one of the things that we are looking for, because there has been there. You go, well, we've actually seen that over there. Also there are we do that also and say there's definitely a lot of stuff going on in the woods. We have had lots of reports of I've had people send me tracks that they found. I've heard stories from people that have actually saw a big foot and. Then we actually have a TRACKNT. We have a lot of weird cryptid and encounters, not just bigfoot. We've had people will call them were wolves. I think it's dog man, and then we've had stuff that are humanoid and We've had people that have reported seen flying humans like they have wings that they don't flap the wings, they just leve it off the ground. Yeah, this is the Banana cemetery, so this is over before you get to hear. We were there one night and we were there was a cornfield going to the the graveyard, and they explained that me and the neighbor were in the band because she was older. Well they explained it as something out of deeper scrapers. Nobody you could hear it, Like about the corn it was weird. Yeah, there's there is a lot of weird stuff that. Goes on, but I do believe that, and. It's it's not just isolated to where I live. And I think I don't want people to come off thinking that I'm just saying all this stuff happens here, But if people actually start to dig into their local areas, you would probably start to see the same sort of patterns that I did. Like, yes, well around here, I haven't seen a lot of that, but if you could drive about forty five minutes from our house, you're guaranteed you go see something there. With USI fix it. I feel like every. Really active over there for that stuff. There's specific areas that are very big hot spots, and for some reason, I just happened to live in one, and like you said, forty five minutes from you, there's another one, So I well that's good. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the whole country, and I think the whole world in general, has these random spots. And what makes them special. I have no idea, but I think there's just something to it. And I think the best information you find is people who are seventy five to eighty ninety years old that lived in the area. That's the best information. Yeah, if you can get some of them to talk, because some of them like that. They can't explain it, they don't want to talk about it. There's still that stigma where no one wants to come forward, especially the older generation, because back then it was taboo to talk about it. Yeah, and then you were labeled as crazy. I think people are still labeled that today. But I I try and help. That's the point of my show is to try and at least give people the opportunity to talk about these type of things, because I know what it's like to experience stuff and never be able to talk about it. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean. When something happens and you can't explain it, you think to yourself, wow, or how is that possible? Especially if you didn't get it recorded or something like that. You're like, man, I know, if I tell people this happened, they're gonna think I'm nuts, right, you know, And I've got no proof to back it up. I know it happened, but you know, are they gonna believe it? That's how I've always felt about stuff that happened with me, is I had no proof. The person that also experienced it too didn't want to talk about it, So right then I didn't talk about it because what's the point. No one's gonna believe you. I say, you're lying or you're crazy, So what's the point that's true? So that's that is where it works. That is why I do what I do, though, to give people the opportunity to come on here and talk about what they experienced, because it sucks not being able to do that. Yeah, that's sure to. Blacks them and grasive. We'll be up here, not we'll just working and stuff like that, and stuff happens and you think, well, that's not recorded on that so we don't have to worry about that, you know. But I tell great, since you know what, it was still happening if only me and you're up here, that's still good enough for me. Yeah. Sometimes I found it's good that people would know that I do go hunting stuff like where I work at when they experienced something that they'd be quick to come to me and but you know, bring it to me and hey, what do you think that you know about this? Because they know I such boys, so they're like, Okay, he won't think I'm crazy if I tell him. That is Yeah, that is what it's been happening with me is randomly now I will get people reaching out to me or I've had even family members bring stuff up. And. I've been going to these events. I have events that I've been doing, like in person stuff, so people will come up and talk to me in person, share some of the stuff that they've experienced or whatever. So I just feel like what I'm doing, I hope is helping other people. So yeah, that is why I try and do what I do. Just to be honest, it's kind of selfish. It helps me with my own coping, and then I feel like it's helping out the party too. So I've had I've had three people since Saturday come to the last Saturday. Yeah, they come to me to tell me. You're like, why is this happened? Why is this happening? You know it was this him was this hard? And I'm like, yeah, but three times it's Wait when two days three. People called me, you know, it's once people I think, actually find out that you're okay to talk to about certain things. Some people may laugh, but there's always going to be those couple of people be like, hey, I've had some weird stuff happen too. Yeah, can you help me? Yes. Sometimes it's just that they know that not alone, that they're not the only one that's experiencing this stuff, right. And just being able to talk to someone that can understand a little bit it is beneficial for yes, non judgmental. Right, Well, we've been going on for almost an hour, so we can probably wrap this up here in a few minutes. But is there anything else it does? Is there anything else you would like to discuss before we do? 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