Ep. 236: High Strangeness on the Mississinewa
Tinfoil TalesJanuary 27, 202600:39:2554.11 MB

Ep. 236: High Strangeness on the Mississinewa

Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales! On this episode I am joined by Jamie. The full interview cut off when we lost connection and we were never able to get back in touch to finish the rest of Jamie's experiences but hopefully soon, we can. For now, enjoy the first half of our interview about the strangeness around the Mississinewa river in Indiana.

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And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us, and one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps. Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw. The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tales. I'm your host Brandon. Tonight's episode is with a guest named Jamie. The conversation with Jamie got cut short. We don't know what happened, but somehow the audio connection between him and I just on his phone dropped out and I was never able to reconnect with him. So I've been sitting on this interview for several months and I'd decided to go ahead and just release it as is, and hopefully sometime in the future I can reconnect with Jamie and get him back on here to. Talk about it. But he's got a lot of weird, crypted and interesting experiences here in Indiana, so I definitely appreciate talking with him. Glad he reached out to me. We're able to connect from when we could before we dive into that conversation. If you'd like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tals, you can send an email to Tenfoil Tales podcast at gmail dot com, or you can go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to contact section. If you'd like to help the podcast, you can share it around. It really does help the podcast out. You can also leave a five start rating and review wherever you listen to ten foil Teals at because that does help with the algorithms. And finally, if you'd like to support the show, you can make sure to go check out the Patreon. You get early access to all the episodes and they're all ad free. You can find more information about that in the show notes. We're gonna go ahead down dive into the conversation with Jamie again. I enjoyed talking with them. Hope the reconnects we can finish out to the conversation, but for now, I hope you guys enjoy what we talked about. Well, welcome back to Ted foyle Tell's I'm your host Brandon Tonight, we're joined by my guest Jamie. Jamie, thanks for coming out here and talking with me. Thank you. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself before we get into it. Yeah, my name is Jamie and I live in east central Indiana. I'm I'm Wi'll be fifty years old next week. Not looking forward to it, but it is what it is. I deliver parts for a living, and I've always grew up in this area and have had a lot of strange encounters and things go on in my life. What part of Indiana are you from, because if I remember right, I thought you said it was around Monsie. Yeah, I am seven miles north of Munseie in Delaware County. They're not very two miles away from the Mississipi Wall River. That doesn't surprise me when you bring up that my in laws are down in that area too. And I actually was just working in Munsey back in the summer. We redid. Mcgalliard from ball State to Wheeling. So that was the project that I was in charge of. So all that got repaved and stuff this past summer, and that's where I've been for the last few months. But now I'm over in a different area. I just saw in the newspaper the other day that they're finally going to redo the rest the mcgallard from the bypass to the mall. Yep, that is on the horizon. I don't know if I'll be back down for that one or not, but it is scheduled, I think for next year. Yeah, it's about time. It's really bad. You said you had a lot of different type of experiences. What was one of the first ones that you remember? And the Miss Cinimal thing always sticks out to me because obviously I'm writing and working on a documentary for the Miss Centimal area. So when you bring up Miss Cinelha, I was like, well, you're not the first person that's had weird experiences around the Miss Sinhala River. Well, the very first one that I can remember, well, I was fourteen years old and I was with a friend of mine. He spent the night with me and we wanted to get up the next morning and go squirrel hunting because my mom said if we would get some squirrels that she'd make squirrel in dumplins. So we got up early the next day next morning and went into the field north of our house, which led into the what we call the north Woods. And when we got into the north Woods, it was the moon was still out. It was a very clear night, and the moon gave a lot of light, so we could see pretty good little distance in front of us and around us. So when we got into the woods, we got into him. Probably I think we might have been fifteen to twenty five yards inside the woods finally, and something started to circle us and grunt and stomp the ground. And when I mean it stomped the ground, it stomped the ground at the point where you could feel the vibration in your feet. And it just kept circling us and it would like blow grunt, and it was loud, it would like to shake your chest, and it scared us both scared my buddy. It scared him so bad that he never went back in the woods, and still this day he doesn't want to talk about it. But we got out of there. He was walking in front, and we were kind of like walking back to back. I didn't want to have anything come up behind us not see it, you know, like it would have done. It's any good with you know, pellet rifles. So but he he never went back in the woods, and I didn't go back into the woods for a very long time. So I'd become a grown man and started hunting with another body of mine and we ran into some things on some state ground down in Henry County. But before that, we've, like you said, around missing our river. There's been a lot of things go on. Back when I was a kid, there was talk of black panthers that were killing people's pets along the mists Sanoa River. And I can distinctly remember going to school one day. My mom drove me to school because I missed a bus, and this is elementary time, and I remember going down the road to the elementary and a large black cat jumped out of one ditch on the passenger side, basically cleared in front of our car. We had a sixty nine Pontiac Catalina, big old twenty five foot long boat car and landed in the other ditch on the driver's side and ran off to the weed field, and my mom got up to the intersection and just kind of turned the car around and said, you're not going to school today. And I asked her why. She said, that was a black panther. It's too close to the school. You're not going to school today. And so we drove back home. Mom had seen and heard of black panthers most of her life because she grew up down in a bell farm, Kentucky, and she would tell us stories about seeing them come in wild animals being dropped off by helicopters in the middle of the night in cages and boxes, and they would be hanging at the bottom of a long cable underneath the helicopter and then come in there into the mountains and drop it down, and then two minutes later they'd fly out. And she said, you could always hear the black panthers scream like a woman in terror, and she knew what it was. They were all over the mountains out there, black panther. She said, there was you know, timber rattlers and regular rattler snakes down there that were just huge. She does have if I can ever find it. I've looked and looked, I've tore my house apart four it. I've tore her house apart four it too. But she has a picture of black and white picture of what they call a Kentucky brown snake, and it's laying across a logging road. She said, the logger rose down. There were about thirty foot wide, and you cannot see the end on each side of the snake. It's one end's down in this ditch, and the other ends and the other ditch. And she said, you know, that's what they called a brown snake in Kentucky. It was a huge snake. And I've seen the picture. It does exist. I just cannot We cannot find it. I don't know what happened to it. Mom has moved a couple of times, so we think we might have accidentally lost it in one of the moves. But I can still see a picture of that snake, and that black and white picture of my mind to this day. Last year, I was coming home from logan support area down the back road and there was a snake in the road. And I don't know what type of snake it is. I'm not a snake person. But when it was stretched out, it was over half the length of the road, and I'm pretty sure a lane is usually like ten to twelve feet, so that was a pretty long snake just for being up around here. Yeah, I am certain last this past summer that I saw a timber rattler on Rigging Road in Muncie. It was dead and I didn't see it till I drove right up on it and I was almost on top of the problem. Went Man, now looks like a timber ratler because you can see the rallys. I mean, it was that big, and I meant to go back. I was in a hurry to get home because we had to let the dog out and feed him when we were past time, and I thought, I'll go back, I'll go back. And the time I went back, it was completely gone. But it looked like a timber ratler, and I'm thinking, good God, man, I think was huge. And I hate snakes too. Man, I'm not dead snakes, good snakes far as I'm concerned. But yeah, there's there's been some good sized snakes around here. I don't try and kill them or anything like that, Like, I don't. They don't bother me in that sense. I'm just I don't know the difference of what each snake is or whatever. I've never paid a whole lot of attention to him, Like if I see him out and about, I typically just leave them be. But I don't. Well, I was always taught if it's a round eye, it's not poisonous, and if it's cat's eyes, it's poisonous. That's how I was always told. There's there's the old saying too, because we've had corn snakes and they kind of resemble like coral snakes, and there's the old saying. I forget it's how it goes. But basically, like wherever the color pattern is, one way, you're safe, the other way you're dead. Yeah, the bands or whatever around snakes, right, yeah, yeah, but yeah, we've we've we've had some things over the years, and uh, it's just and I've had a lot of people tell me things. I had a lady that worked at one of the department stores in town, and she knew my cousin, and she told my cousin about how they had a big foot in the woods behind their house and that it would play with their children. And we went out there and I interviewed them because I wanted to really know if they were telling me the truth not and I couldn't I couldn't tell if they were lying. I mean, I think they were telling me the truth. It just the gut feeling. And she told me that it would would play hide and seek with her kids, and it would come up to the back door and shake and knock on the back door and rattle it and get her dog alls rilled up. And she said they had a bonfire party one night and had some friends over and it was up in a tree above them, and it was standing on a branch and it when it saw them and they saw it, it jumped down from the limb and when its feet hit the ground, she said, it like spun around and just was took off running. It was gone in seconds. Said it was very tall, and it was very skinny, very lean, reddish brown hair. And so we went out to the woods where she lived, and we had a friend drop us off, and it was getting dusk, and I told him, I said, I'll call you when we get when we get out of here, So me and my cousin, it was we trespassed. I ain't gonna lie to you one bit. Everything I'm telling you is the God's honest truth. But we trespassed on some federal land and which we weren't the only one trespassed on, and we found you know, deer stands and stuff like that up in trees and people aren't supposed to be back or hunting. So but we started on the north end of the property and we took we walked south through an old dry creek bed, and when we got into the middle of the property, I stopped and it was dark out, and I did a couple of knocks on a tree, and we waited. We waited, and then we heard a couple of knocks to the north from where we come from. So we did it again, and we heard them again, and then we did it again, and then we heard them two knocks come from the east. And there's no way the knocks from the sap the north could have went over to the east that quick, so we kind of figured there was two of them in there, and my cousin was kind of like, you know, I think maybe we better go. So we left. We took we follow that dragtick bed out to the cornfield and then we got into the cornfield and they just harvested a week before, and we walked through the cornfield to the road, and then called our friend to come pick us up. So I don't think she was lying about it, because we had gotten responses with the knocks. She said. Even her neighbor that lived across the street from her, he was a fireman, and he was riding his four wheeler one day through his property and into the fields and back into the woods and stuff, just riding around, and he said something screamed to him so bad it scared him off his four wheeler and he left it out there for a few days before you go back and get it, because they said the screen was louder than the motor on the four wheeler. And this is the fireman. You know, most fireman ain't supposed to be really scared of much, but I guess this really shift came up a little bit, so he left it out there. They since the moved, and they moved a few miles north of where they used to live, and I don't believe they've had any more problems. So I think it was this right around that that federally protected area. But one one is one thing that I've had happened, and I had my It was the same cousin that was with me on this too, and this is perhaps probably the scariest thing that's ever happened to me. We went over to my fall in laws place, and he lives about two miles west of where we are right now, and he had ten acres and we'd go there and check on the dogs because he wasn't living there anymore. His wife had passed away and he'd moved out and moved into a small house in town because it was just too much take care of. But me and my wife would go there and feed water the two dogs that he left. He had a German shepherd, female German shepherd and a kennel and then had a mutt dog tied to a big chain behind the barn. So we did this for a few days, and we went over there one day and both dogs were gone. The female German shepherd. The gate, which was a big wooden gate that they built for her kennel. She was in a wooden kennel, big wooden kennel, and she was gone. The gate was ripped off, laying about six to eight feet behind were you know, in front of it out the yard. It was like something grabbed a hold of it, just ripped it right off the inges, threw it out out of his way. She was gone. The mutt dog that was hooked to a chain, a big logging chain. The logging chain was hooked to a piece of pipe that went down the ground four feet. The dog, the chain, and the pipe were gone. We looked everywhere all over the ten acres, couldn't find nothing, no sign of anything. They were just literally gone. We were there the night before and they were there, and when we left, they were there. And we come back the next night and they're gone. So a couple of months go by, me and my cousin decided to go out there and do so. I wanted to do some metal detective. He was wanting to do some mushroom looking for mushrooms. So we crossed the little creek back there and got back in the woods and there again we were sort of trespassing on private land, but nobody would have really cared. So we're back there metal detecting and you can see the deer trails, the game trails and stuff all through back there. I got pictures this as well. Like I said, I've tried to document a lot of things with pictures. If I see something I don't understand or it doesn't make sense to me. I'm snapping a picture. So I took pictures of this stapling tree that's been over one of the trails, and it had a log holding the other end down, and I thought that was really strange. And then I took another picture of a black mass on this tree, and I just didn't realize, you know, I was just snapping pictures all through there, and I had a camera. I had. It was the camera. You can buy it like any department store, a kode Act for like seven ninety nine. Take the twenty four exposures, take them and take them on end, and then drop them off in a few days to get your pictures. So I'm snapping all these pictures, and we start walking around the north side of the woods along the tree line by the fields, and we're walking due east, and behind this little patch of woods there's another cornfield and that cornfield is probably, you know, seventy to eighty yards eighty five yards wide, and I can't remember how long it is, but just remember the width of it's about seventy five to eighty five yards right through and there somewhere, and we're standing on the north side on the tree line between that field and the other field. And we're not being loud or not till we're just stand there kind of talking amongst each other. My cousin is looking at me. He's standing on my left side, his face is facing my left side of my face, talking to me, and I'm looking due south and I'm just looking all of a sudden, out of the other side, due south of me, as a rock comes out of the cornfield thrown. It's got a big arch coming and it's coming right at us. And I'm just locked eyes on this rock watching it come through. And I'm watching this rock coming over the cornfield towards us, and I'm just in all of this, and my cousins still standard gibbers having about something. I can't remember what he's talking about. And I watch it come over and it lands right behind my cousin, I mean another few inches and it would have hit him. It hit the ground with such a force and thud that had scared him so bad he jumped up on me and wrapped his arms legs around me. And when I finally got him off of me, I was looking at this rock was about size of the ball ball. It was a heavy rock. It would have took to both of my hands for me to pick that thing up trying to carry out here. It was a heavy rock. It's still sutting there to this day. And he said, what rolls out? I said, that's not rock, and he goes rock. I say, so we got this rucked us. He looked down that row, looked at me, and he looked at Southway across that field, and he said, I want the hell out of here now. I said, okay, let's go. He said, let's get me out of here. Now, let's go. I'm done. I'm done. So he walked and we we did back to back, and we had pocket knives on us, like you know, like it's gonna do any good. But anyways, so we walked on out of there and we got in the truck and laugh. He says like, I ain't never doing that again. And he's never went back out with me again after that. So that was That was the craziest, myst scariest time, you know, because it stuns you to see something like that that far away with an arch on it, like you know, it's like somebody just like you're throwing a pass to somebody on a football field and just here it comes and for them to drop it right behind him and when it hit the ground, listen, it didn't balance, it just went bump. And that's where she stayed. How much weight was behind that rock. So that was one of the most scariest, craziest in all time I've ever had in the field. And I don't really go out looking for them. It's just I pay attention when I'm out, especially when we used to go hunting, are we go scouting, I paid attention to a lot. And that's like I said, I always took pictures and I got a lot of pictures of stuff that we took down on Wilbur Wright State Park and it'll blow your mind. I mean it just will. Literally. I've showed the pictures of DNR and they just smile at me and just kind of get up and walk away. They don't want to talk about it. And the pictures that I took down there, I showed the game more than that was all duty down there that day, and they didn't have much to say to me about it. But the very next day we went back down there, they had cut that all up and moved it off the trail and what I'm talking about is there's a full will drive trail that runs east and west through wilble Wright State Park just north from Newcastle there, and there were two trees that were interlocked like you would interlock your fingers on both hands together. And these trees were dead okay, and they could you could tell they had been pushed over and drugged down each side of the ravine and then you know, moving together like you would stick your fingers and you know, interlock them together. There were no two strap marks, no chain marks, no galvanized wire marks. They were not pulled with a truck. Me and my buddy that I hunted with, we're both six four, three hundred plus pound boys, and we could not move these trees. And he's real big skeptic. And I said, man, what do you think this is? He is? I don't know. He said the wind. Maybe mother nature, said mother nature will do crazy things. I'm thinking mother Nature didn't swoop down here and knock these two trees down and then interlock them together like this said over this trail, this is a marker thing, and stay the hell out. But the very next day that we went back down there, they were all cut up and they were all stacked up the wood and everything on each side, like if somebody I wanted to take them for firewood, you can have at it. But they cut both the trees up. You could see with the trees, the dirt and the old actual rotted root balls were pulled out of the ground where they'd pushed them and then drug them down each side of the vine, and you could see all that. It's in the pictures I've got. And we would find spots down there that were things were cleared out and like makeshift nest which we found some nest over on my ground, all my fallen lost property as well. I got pictures of all that bent over saplings. I mean, you know, like I said, I just I take pictures of a lot of stuff, man, because I just if I can't explain it like a human done it, then I'm gonna take pictures of it because it's strange, right, And that's just how I kind of do things. Now, you mentioned you were on federal property. How far away is the federal property from where most of your incidence has happened. Well, on Sea Go two miles are probably about probably about inward between five and seven miles away. West of my house. There are some folks up this way that we're having some noises and other things happening out along the woods, and the where the woods kind of connects to adjacently is part of the federal lands that end up becoming part of the state lands for the Missisinewa area. So it makes me wonders, like they choose these sections of land, and everyone talks about other federal lands and there's weird stuff that goes on there is like why did they pick the land in the first place to be considered federal land or state land, like you know, government lands that you're not supposed to be at. And then everyone talks about there's bird activity there. I was like, that's kind of convenient. Well, you're not supposed to hunt on there, so most animals like deer stuff like that. They for somehow they know that they know it's safe, you know, like that fair land we on, you're not supposed to be hunting on there. But there were true stands there. There was a brand new one up there one day, you know, so somebody's something on and they're not supposed to and I know, I know the federal agency that owns that land and I can tell you right now, it wouldn't matter how much money you offer them. They tell you, no, you're not hunting on there. So. But yet there's people that trespass on hunt on it. So and it's not very far, probably within a mile of it's a cine wall river from where we were at, and all that area down through there. I've heard a lot of stories of people hearing things, seeing strange stuff. I got a friend of mine that lives right on the Mississiniwa River. Me and him went coyote hunting on his property because he was having coyote issues. So I took off and he stayed on the north end of his property and I went to the south end and I heard I don't I it was a wolf howl. I'm sorry. It was the loudest wolf howl I've ever heard of my life. Come from directly west of me in a field, over the hill in the field, and I was setting up in a makeshift blind, a natural blind, and it literally shook me a little bit. I was like, WHOA what in the world. So I turned around and I faced the west, and I had my gun ready, but nothing ever come that way. And he heard it too, and it was it was extremely loud, and it was like a perfect howl, you know what I mean, like something you'd almost hear out of the horror movie, you know, like the howling or something. It was that kind of a howl. And he's got pictures and I've got them somewhere. I can't remember where. I think I got them in maybe my photo. He sent me pictures of three sets of eyes or three sets of eyes with somewhat of an illumination of body that he took on his property. One thing, one set eyes or down here there's a second set medium size, and then the third set was large and it was right by haywagon. So you've got your depth of scale there. You can figure out how tall and big these creatures were. And him and his wife were just walking their property night to get there, just having some alone time, and he kept hearing noises over there by the trailer, and he said, well, I just want to ed, you know, snap pictures on my cell phone, and I've got those pictures here in the album and he sent them to me. And I can't make out what it could possibly be. I don't know if it'd be a bigfoot or if it's you know, God forbid, if it's you know, the actual dog men, I don't know, but it was. It was an eye opener. Look at what he got. I mean you can clearly see this stuff to day, I mean clear's day. You can see it in the pictures, the eyes and everything, and how big they were against that hay wagon. But he has a lot of she's got. I think he's got some goats, chickens, got a couple of dogs, a couple of cats. He's got horses. His kids were real big into horses for a while. They still got the horses out there. He's has lost some animals here and there over the years. So but like I said, he's right on the river. He is when I mean he's right on the river. When we get heavy rains, he hass to park his trucked up by the road and take a rowboat from the house to the road when it floods. That's how close he is to the river. So he gets a lot of stuff. Do you think. Whatever these things are, do you think they have Do you think they're like a actual creature? You think there's something else to them? Just because. There's a reason I'm asking, because I've been doing a lot of research and a lot of the stuff for some of the local legends far as like with miss Sinawa and some of the other Native American things from like hundreds of years ago. Certain tribes mention things similar to like a dog man, but they weren't necessarily dog man. They were just considered guardian spirits and they sometimes take the shape of wolf, and some of them were like wolf men type things. Well, my opinion, I think it's flesh and blood. I don't believe in all the wu I don't believe in mind speak and stuff like that. The Indians have seen them long before we have, and they talk about seeing you know, most of them that I've that I've seen, I've read read on and stuff like that. It's flesh and blood to them. A lot of them do think it's spiritual paranormal. But my opinion is from what I've seen, and I've seen, I've seen them. I mean, I'm I'm not gonna lie to you. I've I've seen them. I've I know they're there. I know it was a real flesh and blood creature. The picture that I took on my fall in law's property when we got them back. I was looking at them, and I saw that black mass on that tree. I thought, man, that looks really strange. So I got the magnifying glass and I looked at it a little closer, and its matted hair and you can see two red eyes in it. And we went back out there and I took that picture with me, and I found that trail and that sapling bent over, and then off to the left you can see that tree with a black mask. That black mask. Ain't there no more on that tree. So what I'm thinking that was was probably the baby, and Mama and Papa threw the rock at us to get us out of there because we got too close. I think the further we would have went back in there, we'd have been in some serious trouble. I've seen him in the fields out here east of my house, towards Miss Sinewa River, walking in the fields. I've seen one standing behind a fencepost, knelt down and he's doing that side beside thing that a lot of people talk about. He's watching me as I was going to work early in the morning. It's still dark out, but the sun starting to you know, when the sun's starting to come up, and the moon's starting to find of go away, and you're starting to get a little bit of light in the fields and on the road. That's when I saw him, and he was walking towards the east, towards miss Sinhwa River. I've been down on the river and I've heard slaps in the water like you would, I mean, just absolutely smash slaps and like that. You know, we don't. I've never seen a beaver down there, so I don't think it's beaver, but you can hear something slap in the water and you're trying to get down around the bend and see what it was, and you just can't. You know, you're just not fast enough to see what it is. And I found tracks down there. I got pictures of the tracks that I took by the river. I had a one night. We had a guy from the Old Ibag Indian, a big foot awareness group. The old guy come down here one night and when hit me and him went out and we drove all over the northern part of Delaware County. And when we got out there at the Mississuhua River on the bridge down from my house, and this is one two o'clock in the morning, and we heard that loud slap around that bend that goes bends over to the to the west a little bit. And he said, man, did you hear that? I said, yeah, he goes, that's an enormous slap. I said, yeah, that was pretty loud. I mean it was you could have heard it all through that area. It was that lout of a slap in the water. So I mean, what does that you know what I mean? I just and I got a buddy that lives by the road by the river, and he's told me stories and seeing the mountain lions, cougars and stuff down there, you know, killing the geese and stuff and dragging them up under tree. The people that live around the river, I mean, that's the that's the people you want to talk to down around here, because they they're the ones that's going to tell you what they've seen and what they've heard. And it's like like you said, the Miston and walk through there, the valley and everything. I mean, it just the whole river's got stuff is active from one end to the other. I mean, it just literally is so much goes all around the mist and all river. It's nothing funny. I had someone I talked to last year, I still talked to him. He does his own show now, but around Thanksgiving he saw something not even a half mile away from the miss Sinawa River and it's over by your area, over around them. It's just north of Muncie. And he's not the only person I've heard that from, like, and I've started talking to them more and more people, and there's more stories that I've been turning up and more things I've been digging into him. For some reason, I've always heard that like dog Man and Bigfoot or any type of cryptids or whatever, they all travel the waterways. They go around the water sources, and if you listen to the paranormal aspect of things, they all so use water as a condo of it channels the energy. So I've always wondered as like, is there something to all of this? And then I started noticing where all these people have been having sightings in the same similar areas, Like literally here in Peru, there's three sightings in one exact location, and that to me, and they've been like multiple years apart, So that to me just says something because they're all different people and they've all had similar experiences in the same exact spot that's just too coincidental for me. Yeah. There. I know a preacher he used to preach our old church that we used to go to, and he lived down by the Misterraw River, and he said his dogs got on something one night and he went outside. It was pretty dark out, he said, and he went out to get the dogs to bring them back in, and he said, there was this creature on the hill in his backyard. And I know where he's talking about. There's an area there on sixty seven where the house is all set up on hills, long driveways, it goes up well, he was living. And that's where the conversation ended. The call got disconnected and we were never able to reconnect. Kind of sucks. I really enjoyed talking with Jamie. He is local and we have a lot of the same ideas and beliefs, especially around the Missinima area. So I definitely want to have him back on so we can finish up where we started with the conversation, because I'm definitely wanting to find out more information from all of his experiences and some of the information that he's got from his own research. Well, with that being said, I think this is where we're going to end this episode, so I appreciate you guys listening. I apologize for the way it dropped off, but I thought it was too decent of an episode to just leave hanging around there for maybe never getting to be released. I really hope you guys enjoyed it. 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