In this episode of Tinfoil Tales, Brandon is joined by author and speaker Will Cameron, who shares one of the most unusual claims ever discussed on the show. Will describes what he calls the “Window Man State” — a condition where he says his consciousness can step out of the present moment and into different points across his own timeline.
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And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling. These steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of. The muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to ten Foil Tals. I'm your host Brandon Tonight, I'm joining about with my guest Will Will. Thanks for coming here and talking. To me, Thanks for having me appreciate it. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself before we dive into it. Sure, I am an author, a public speaker. I'm a food critic and also the world's foremost authority on the window Man state. And I guess the reason I'm the foremost authority on that is because I'm the only one that I know does it. Before we get into the window man aspects, I had a couple of questions, like, leading up to this, is this something that how did you figure this out? Like it without explaining everything right off the bat. Was this something that just kind of happened or was it something that like per gressed into it? Well, certainly it was a progression, but there were these precursors and things that led me along the way to finding this. And like I've said multiple times in other things that I am or have never been normal. From the time I was born, things were different. I potty trained myself at eighteen months. At two years old, I could hold a conversation with you at the level of a twelve year old. By three years old, I began to see things before they would happen. It was an extra sensory perception esp people call it, and I lost a connection to that as I went further along. But then there were other things that came and so I recognize that now as a precursor. I guess, was there we'll get into durers we was there like a catalyst kind of got the whole thing for you, like some sort of event without like describing the whole thing before, but like, was there something that just set it off? Sure, when I was nine years old. When I was nine years old, there was an event in the classroom. We'll get into that, and that that is where everything began. That was where it started for sure. Okay, Well, if you're good to go, I will turn it over to you and we can get into and if I got any questions, I'll ask as we go along. Sure, why don't we just start with that event right there? When I was nine years old, I'm sitting in the classroom, and I'm not the guy that I am today. I was, you know, obviously today you know, speak in public and do all of these things. But I was a really timid kid. And so I'm sitting in the classroom and I have to pee, and I have to pee like nobody's business. I mean, I gotta go bad. And I didn't want to raise my hand because I felt like if I raised my hand, then I'm gonna get ridiculed by the other students. And unfortunately that backfired in a really, really horrific way. About ten minutes later after I should have raised my hand, I'm sitting there and I just got pissed running down my leg. And now the teacher. There's a million things the teacher could have done, but she didn't try to disguise it in any way, so she just exposes it to the class. And now there's this huge, like glorious. Laughter going on in the class, and she's laughing herself, which I found to be a little bit ridiculous that she would be laughing, you know, at a student, but she was. And I should have probably went home that day. I didn't. I decided to stay at school. I went to the locker room and I took a shower, changed out, and you know, got my gym clothes on, and came back and continued to be picked on for the rest of the day. And I'm talking about punched and kicked and you know, you name it. It was. It was happening to me. People were calling me all kinds of names that you could, you know, possibly imagine a third grade kid would call another kid who would just pissed his pants in front. Of the class. So anyway, I go home that day and I don't even know what to do. With myself. I go to my room and I just start. Crying my eyes out because I'm thinking, I don't know what am I going to do with my life now. I mean, this is like everything feels wrecked at this point. And I'm sitting there and I should have probably or I feel like. I was. Let me explain it like this. I didn't feel like I was crying myself asleep. That's not what happened. I was one hundred percent awake and I was I was crying. I was conscious of what was going on, and all of a sudden, just like a snap, just like that, I'm out and I don't know why that happened. And at the time, I obviously was like, why did this happen? That I just went out like that? And I woke up what felt like maybe a second later, but it was the morning, and I felt fully rested. And this was the first time that I experienced what I call the window man stage, because when I opened my eyes up, I was viewing the world through a different lens. I wasn't viewing it like you or I would view it now. It's like I'm looking and I feel like I'm peering out through a window and I'm in no control of anything. I can't move my body anything. It's moving for me, it's doing everything for me. And all of a sudden, I hear my mother's voice call from the other room, and all of a sudden, you start getting dressed really fast. And I run out into the living room and I see her and I just grab her and I just throw my arms around her, and I just start bawling. And my nine year old self inside watching this like I don't understand and what's going on? Not one bit, So I'm lost or what's happening here. I get in the car with her. I'm sure she was a little shaken by it too. She didn't know what was going on. But we get to the school and I don't say a word, and I get out of the car. I look at her and I say this. I say, don't worry, I'll be back, which is a really weird thing for a kid to say, you know, but that was what was said. So I go into the classroom and. I see this kid that I called my tormentor in the book, and he's sitting at the back of the class, just cracking up. Walking the room. Now, I look at him and I don't feel like I'm feeling it normally. It feels like this is something that's not happening to me at all. It feels like it's happening in a different place to somebody else. And my body starts moving toward his desk, and another kid that was giving me a hard time he steps in the way and just pushing to the ground, and I walk to his desk. I grab him by the back of the head and I slam him face down into the desk and now there's blood everywhere. He didn't break his nose, but there was a lot of blood. And so I go to the principal's office and he immediately starts in on me. He starts yelling at me really really fast. And I think the reason he started yelling at me like he did was because he felt comfortable doing so. Because I'm this timid kid that, you know, isn't I'm not a fighter, I'm not, you know, anything like this. I'm not going to argue with him. And so he starts, you know, starts in really hard on me, and I paused for a second, and then this voice rises out of me, and I'm telling you, it had authority to it. And the voice rose out of me and it said, Hey, what kind of man allows a child to be kicked, punched, beaten and tormented on the daily basis then has the audacity to give this kid a hard time when he only tempts to defend himself. And I watched this guy like step back, and he steps back, he takes a deep breath and his face goes almost completely ghost white, and he realized that there was something going on there, because this wasn't, you know, the normal child he was used to hearing from. And he looks at me and he says, what would you have me do? There's a day that the principal of a school asked a nine year old kid, what would you have me do? And I looked at him and I said, here's what you do. If the parents squeal about what happened, you tell them all about their son, and you tell them that they could be dragged into the very same lawsuit that all drag this school into. So this goes away, and just like that, I never heard about it again. And the reason that my mother in that scene had happened that morning and that was so weird, was because I I realized many me years later what had happened, and I at this time I didn't know. But what had happened was this was the first time that my forty eight year old consciousness had stepped in for my nine year old self. So this was my forty eight year old self speaking to the teacher. But the reason or excuse me the principal, but the reason that the scene had happened with my mother was because to my forty eight year old consciousness, my mother had been dead for over a year, and so now this is me seeing her for the first time after so many it's so long when I hadn't seen her, and now I'm seeing her in her thirty year old body, and it was mind blowing. If you could imagine what that would feel like experience something like that. It so that this is where everything began. My door just opened up by itself. So I kind of weirded me out a little bit. Her normal stuff going on in here, don't. We I probably didn't shut it all the way over, We'll just say, but no, I heard it creaking out looking and it just opened up. But it's whatever. So now, when you were nine years old and you said your consciousness was from your forty eight year old, so basically forty year difference. Did that consciousness stick with you from that point on? Or what do you mean by stick with me from that point like at nine? No? Yeah, okay, like it basically like your consciousness took over as the nine year old. But I was just wondering if, like if it's kind of just stayed with you since then, like you still had that idea from your older. So no, no, that it stepped in and left, okay. And so there were many instances of this over time. You know that we'll get into and talking about like what it was that stepped in in certain places. But yeah, no, that wasn't it didn't stay with me. No, when it when it first happened for you, like did your did you feel different, like did your body feel different or did you feel anything different when this was going on? Or oh yeah, I mean as I as I explained it. You know, seeing through the window is much different than like controlling your body. It It feels as if you're you're just watching out of the window, and you know how you can see everything that goes on outside, but you're in control of nothing when you're looking through a window, like whatever's going on out the birds are moving, whatever's happening. You don't control that. And that's exactly how this was. I couldn't control anything, not function, not speech, nothing. When did that first? Like after you with the principle and everything, how much longer until you kind of came back to not being in that. State that that went away as soon as I stepped out, and you find out how I how I stepped out later if you read in the book, you'll you'll find that I have to connect multiple senses to events because essentially, here's the way that it is. We are the microcosm of the macro casm. So there's a version of me that has never started talking to you yet there's a version of me that is already finished with this interview see it. So there's multiple versions, and there's split seconds off. And since there's split seconds off, it's like, if you can connect yourself to a moment, then you can essentially commandeer the vehicle. You can take over that vehicle. So what I'm saying is, have you ever heard a song and that song kind of took you back and you were like WHOA, Like I almost feel like I'm in that moment that's a baby step through the door. And because I have this window man state, this thing that I can do, I'm able to step through the door, and many people would not be able to step through the door. It's it's a supernatural. Gifting and each of us have them, but most people don't know how to access them. And so that's what that's actually what. I'm doing now with I'm on school and I'm actually teaching people how to access their their supernatural gifting because it's there, you just have to understand how to get there. And there's a lot of things that bind you from ever getting there. There's these things I call frequency binders, and they keep you from ever being able to move to that state. Doors moving again, this happens with me. Do you think that the way this sounds is almost like trying to think almost like not so much multiverses, but kind of in a sense like different versions of reality, different versions of time, like a different time and space between when you and I have already talked another time where we haven't talked. Is there a way for you to communicate with yourself from a different time frame? Yes? Absolutely, Actually, I should probably explain this before we even go into that and how deep that actually goes, because that's a very deep rabbit hole that we would be looking at there. But I want to say that this will probably blow some minds out there. But Elon Musk had said that there was only like a one in a billion chance that we were living in anything but a simulation. And I'm going to go ahead and take it a step further and say we one hundred percent live in a simulation. And what I do exploits a glitch. And this glitch allows me to move through not only my own timeline, but multiple timelines. Uh. And because there are there are all these different coded versions of the matrix, and I have moved through many of them. And there's something called an empty timeline where nothing exists on the empty timeline, no birds, no squirrels, nothing, nothing except plant life. And in that place, I'm actually able to commune with other versions of myself who have the same gifting, and we are able to devise plans and all sorts of things to. Further this gift. I will ask the question that I know everyone's thinking, how come you have not won the lottery? You know what? That is a beautiful question, and I will tell you why when people read window Man, they will understand that Time tends to attack and it acts as an entity, so it attacks you. And I've learned later that there's something called the Darker Force, and that's what Windowman two is about. It's called the Darker Force, and the darker Force has the ability to suppress the abilities and also Time itself, acting as an entity, looks at me as a parasite and it wants to flush me out. So if I use the gifting in any way to do anything that profits me, I'm attacked viciously. In fact, it talks about it in the book where I had compound fractured my leg immediately after winning on DraftKings, that I had won one hundred thousand dollars on DraftKings and my leg was compound fractured within thirty seconds. So there is something that stops me from ever trying to use it for profit. Okay, So I know the listeners out there when people hear this before, because I've had someone say they've traveled time and everything, and everyone says the same thing, like with psychics, if all this is real, how come they haven't won the lottery? If they know that what the future holds how comes someone hasn't rich, and like it is one of those questions that it has to be asked, because again, that's the way everyone thinks. One hundred percent. And if you think that that wasn't something that crossed my mind. In the book, it talks about, Hey, I could go back and I could find this stock that exploded. You know, I could go and you know bet On, you know Mike Tyson versus Buster Douglas, you know all of these things. And yeah, I definitely that it comes in and there's this this greed that makes you want to do that. But I found out in the most vicious way possible that you don't want. To do that. You mentioned something about time like as an entity, as an actual physical or type of a thing, because we don't see time as that, Like, we don't see time as anything other than just time. So if this is something that has like an actual control to it, like a mindset, would that be considered part of the programming? Like it's almost like a coded protector for the timeline. Yeah, and I actually think that that's that's almost a given in the book when you look at it, because the fact is is that it it tries to attack, and it tries to kill you, but there are all these rules that seem to be in place. One of the rules is that until you reach a certain point, it's not allowed to attack you directly, that it will only attack it will only attack those around you. But at some point it starts to look at you as being on par with itself, and when that happens, it starts to try and kill you. And it took quite a long time before it actually started trying to kill me, but it did and on multiple occasions. M Yeah, Now, because we've talked, we've kind of went down a rabbit hole of simulation theory. So what happens if you were to die but there's other versions of you? Is just this version the only one that would die? Or with all of them died too, or do you have no idea? No, this version is the only one, and there are multiple versions of you dying every day. You know, we are all on. This stream and if you just look at it, like you know, there's a cliff at the end, and slowly but surely versions of you are going over the cliff. That's how That's how it is. So we've all died multiple times, and we I'll even tell you this, that we do come back. This is what happens. We come back into the stream every single time, over and over and over again. So it's so the the idea of reincarnation, all of that is is factual. And when I and I'll also say this, I think it's important and imperative that I say it that you know, there's a lot of believers out there, people who believe in you know, God and all of these things. And I will tell you that nothing that I'm saying is mutually exclusive with you know, the word there. All of it's true that to be absent of the body, be present with the Lord, how long before you go back? You know? And that's you know, like I said. If you ever have any questions like that that you want to ask them, more than happy to answer those two. I had a couple of notes that's kind of what I'm reading through. And one of the things I was curious about when you mentioned, like when I originally went through this, when it comes to like your consciousness jumping through time. We've kind of already alluded to some of this, but it doesn't cause like a paradox type of a weird time shift or something between the fact that you know that you're communicating with yourself from a different timeframe that doesn't have any sort of negative effects or anything on you. Time works very different than people believe it does. And we believe in, you know, the butterfly effect, and that if you do something here that it moves forward, right, And that's not really the case. One way that I would explain it would. Be like this, if I cut off the blood flow to my leg, right, is it only my leg and my foot that are affected? The answer is no, that's going to put a strain on my heart. It could cause me to have a heart attack, and it could cause me to have a stroke. Right. These things happen in the heart and in the brain. So what I'm saying is that when you affect time, you affect it both forward and backward. Is a retro causality. It's something completely different than what people believe to actually be reality. As far as time goes, time is much much different, and time now is in flux. And in being in flux, you may believe that you've lived this life and it's been what you've had from the very beginning, but it can change at any point and when it does, you will believe that it hasn't changed. So yeah, so it's because you'll still have all of the memories of what you believe has been your life, but it has shifted multiple times because time has been affected, and it's affected in both directions, and it's constantly in flux. And you hear about this in the book as well. How did you come to understand all of this? I know we've kind of haven't really got further past your first experience, but how long did it take for you to kind of understand what was going on? Oh? This was so many years in the making, you know. One of the ways that I've explained it on a few occasions is to say, you know, you start getting in shape, and then you go, oh, you know what, I could probably box, And then you start boxing, and then you're like, hey, I can start kickboxing, you know, And next thing you know, you're doing jiu jitsu and wrestling and all these other things, and now you're a complete mixed martial artist. So what I'm saying is that this was a development over years and years and years, and when I'm inside in that window man state, I have been able to map the brain and do many, many things that people don't actually understand. Things go on inside that you can never explain out here. I ended up being inside one time for six months, and it felt like this, because six months six minutes relatively the same inside if you're not actually looking through the window, which is why I had to learn to look through the window, because if I wasn't constantly in the window, then time would just go and it would go so fast. And so I learned to slice off this little piece of my consciousness that could continue mapping the brain. And like I said in the book, I don't ask me to explain that there's things that happen that go on inside that you can't explain out here. It's a totally different world inside. Well, if you would like to continue on after the first time you experienced it, I'd like to hear more about how you've come to learn about the ability. Yeah, I can explain the first time I had really tried to go through and step through into the you know, out of this time, I didn't use the window. Man, I tried, and I had connected my senses together from something that if you've read in the book, you learn that it was this thing that I was led to do, and it taught me how to how to connect the senses together in order to do this, and it didn't. It didn't work the first time. It was like pushing against a very strong wind, and I just felt like there was nothing I could do. And I remember twenty six minutes of trying to push through and tell my brain hurts so bad that I needed to stop, that I couldn't, that I couldn't go through anymore. And one day, on my way to the liquor store, of all things, something just just dawned on me, and it said, step into the window. And so I'm going in my car and I'm listening to Jelly Rolls Son of a Sinner, and I'm drinking on a Pepsi cola, and I'm ripping the steering wheel, and I look at the gas gauge because I knowed myself that if I look at the odometer, then it may change before I get home, and I don't want to have anything visually off. The gas meter is. Not going to change before I get home. So I get home and I put my beer in the fridge. At all of this, and I come back out and I get in the car. I start the car up, and I don't want to actually drive the car because if I drive the car, I'm afraid in my mind that I'm leaving an unmanned vehicle if this works. So I put on the Jelly roll song a bluetooth that threw. I'm drinking on the Pepsi cola. I'm gripping the steering wall, I'm looking at the gas gauge and I awaken driving the vehicle. And I'm driving the vehicle and I almost get hit by this blue Ford Explorer that goes right through the through the light and I slam on the brakes just after. Mind you, this is when I just kind of like came to because my body was seizing. That was the first time like I was, I was seizing like this, and so that was a really scary thing because I could have I could have died in that situation. But I go back to the house. I'm super excited. I don't even like go to the liquor store. I go back to the house. I run straight through the door. I go in, I open the refrigerator door, and there's no beer in the refrigerator. I look in my wallet and the money that I had used to purchase that beer is back in my wallet, and this is the first time I realized that I'd actually stepped out of time. Okay, so that was within the last five to ten years. Oh yeah, that was when I was forty eight years old, when I'm fifty now, so yeah, it was. That was the first time that I stepped through that doorway. And then later, obviously I stepped through the doorway again when I went back into my nine year old That was something that was such a vivid memory to me that I just. I said, I have to go do this. This is something I have to try, and just like that, I was back in that body and I and it details it in the book. Is this something that you would think is more trauma based of how you learned to get to this ability, because it seems like it's something traumatic that happened to trigger the whole thing. Oh, you're one hundred percent correct. That's a great question. The trauma is what started it, and it wasn't just then. It didn't happen again until I was in my early to mid twenties. Right there, I was in a bad relationship and I felt it going south, and I kind of did the same thing except I wasn't crying this time, and in the book it says I kind of felt like I was past that, you know, and I just went into the room and I laid on the bed, and I just felt this heat come over my eyes. And when the heat came over my eyes, all of a sudden, everything went dark. And when I opened my eyes again, I was in that same window man state that I was in when I was nine years old. And so, yes, the trauma is what opened the door originally, but in doing it, it allowed me to access it at any time. I just I became so capable of doing it at any time based on just the fact that I had done it before. You know, It's like, like I explained it like this. You know, if. John Jones goes out and gets drunk, right, he can still basically whip a bunch of people's ass. It's second nature to him. That's what happened here. It became second nature to me where I could just step in and out. Has there ever been a time where you've tried to step in to alter what had happened? Mm hm, oh absolutely, There's been multiple times where I try to step in and alter what had happened. One time. I was talking to a coworker. And I brought him out to the Madison Bear Garden in Chico with me to go ahead and have some lunch and we'll just talk because I needed to get this thing off my chest. I was like, I need to get this off my chest. And he was a good friend of mine, you know. So we started talking and I told him everything. Now I'm not really sure whether he truly believed it or he didn't believe it, But we left that place and. We go through the red light or not the red light. We were parked at at the red light, and then we went through when it turned green and a red Honda Civic comes through and blindsides him and I have him right here on my lap, covered in blood. I watched him die. That was our natural timeline. I went back and fixed that, And this is one of the very rare times where I've been able to go back and actually change something like that. On multiple occasions, it hasn't worked that way. And in the end, I'll tell you something else that I tried to fix that didn't work. And it's a really crazy story. I don't know the way that they would be able to do something like this to actually check it out. But like if you ever had anyone like be around when you've went into this state to where they can monitor like how it happens for you or anything like that. No, no, hey, I have never done anything like that. And it's funny because I believe it was the butterfly effect three they have there's a situation where she monitors him as he goes in and does this. I've never had anyone monitor me going through this gateway. And I don't know that I want anyone to. I'm a little bit worried about what that would you know, what that would entail or what that would bring I but no, I can honestly say that I've never had anybody do that. Part of it. I just I hate doing it, but I have to get MRIs on my head for my brain stuff. And like I didn't know if like they would be if you were able to do something like that, if you were like in an MRI machine, I wonder what it would actually pick up or show if they I don't even know how that that would even work. I just kind of wondering. That's very interesting because I have been looking into doing a brain scan, because there are these things that happened to me when I go out, specifically, like the time I did with the six months, I come back, and when I come back and I wasn't in the window, there were certain things that I didn't remember, okay, And so all of these things need to come back, and they do, and they come back viciously. And this is something that I call the flood. So the flood is all of these memories rushing back all at once. And if you understand, like the hippocampus is responsible for your memory creation and it is buried deep within the temporal lobe. Now, the temporal lobe is connected to both hemispheres, and both hemispheres are connected to the occipital lobe. So when all of these come flooding back, what they do is they set your brain on fire. And so for a few hours, it feels like somebody hits you over the head with a sledgehammer, and is absolutely one of the most vicious feelings. It could kill people, it's that strong, and you feel the after effects for days. I was wondering too, like when you just mentioned that, I would be curious to know, like if by going in there, whatever, if it's actually causing some sort of health issues. Because I know you mentioned the Butterfly I remember the first one. I ever seen any of the other ones, but I remember seeing something before, like where someone was able to like I don't know the movie. I can't trying to think, but like every time he went back and did something, it was like taking a little bit of peace from him and up eventually it was going to kill him if he kept doing it. I can't remember what the movie that was. I'm trying to think myself, but I don't know. I do know that there was that in the Butterfly effect though the first one he did experience something very similar to the flood when you I don't remember if you remember him grabbing his head and holding his head and it, you know, through all the memories and blood running out of his nose, it was he was having a you know, he was having that happen too, which is really interesting. And that's honestly what led me to find the things that I found was because I in the beginning, I started looking through all sorts of movies and different things, believing that there had to be some connection between you know, fiction and what is real. You know, and so I started looking through them, and when I saw that there was a flood, you know, I saw all these things that it made sense to me, and so I started to piece things together. And that's the reason his use of a journal was something that kind of guided me. I knew a journal wouldn't work. It seemed too simple to me, but connecting all of my senses together made sense. And that's what and that's where that came from, was learning from what I had seen so oddly. You know, fiction in real life can have a crossing point. I think most fiction is influenced from something real in the first place. Someone has that idea, and if what you're talking about is an actual capability that you're able to do, I'm sure there's probably been others that have done it at some point too, and it has somehow been influence throughout time. M absolutely, one hundred percent I agree with that statement. And I will say that, like I said, each of us have a supernatural gifting. I know this, it's just about accessing it, and people don't understand that. You know, the thirty three vertebrae is called the Sacred Ladder, and some people call Jacob's Ladder or whatever. But at the top there's this this Atlas vertebrae. When you get to the Atlas vertebrate, when you push the energy, the kundalina energy through there to the Atlas vertebrae, it can actually pump into the pineal gland and when it does, it decalcifies it. And when it decalcifies it, it allows you to access things that you're not capable of accessing in your natural form. A lot of people have talked about stuff similar because they think that what do they say, we only use like a small percentage of our brain and the penial grunt land or whatever is basically when it's calcified. They think that's by design to keep us from actually achieving those abilities that we've always had. So this is something that's kind of been a reoccurring topic when on the show, as people have talked about how to actually get in touch with that and get in tune. It's almost like, and I'm not trying to say it in the sense of what you're doing is the same, but it's almost similar to how people claim they travel the astral plane or they get into the ability to like when they're in a meditative state like they're leaving their body and they're traveling through time and everything else to a different plane of existence. And most of the people believe that again like this is all kind of a simulation because they're able to channel and do all that. Like, we're just in this version of our world, but there's other ones out there too that we're able to tap into once our mind's able to, like our consciouness is able to open up and move from the states that we're in. Oh. Absolutely, and n astral projections a very real thing. I've had some people in my family that have been able to do that. That's not my gifting. But but this, however, is my gifting. And so each of us have, you know, different ones, and I'm not entirely sure what they are, Like, I don't know what other people can do, because to be realistic, I don't think a lot of people access this. It's a very it's a very unusual thing for somebody to reach that level where they can do that. You know. It's it's basically called like that. They call it a christ consciousness, you know, and you get to that point where you can actually manipulate things. I've always thought about stuff like that, but I would be too afraid to ever try. And I talked to someone before the talk about how you can leave your body in this It's like what happens if you leave your body but you can't make it back to your body When you're in that state now with you, you're not necessarily leaving your body. But do you ever get concerned that you're going to get trapped at while you're in the window situating? You said you've been in there for like six months before. Has there ever been a point to where you're afraid that you won't ever may be able to get out of there? You know? It's the that's that's a great question, because it's it's the weirdest thing. Uh. Like I said before, when when my eyes went dark and you know, I just felt like everything was. Going out around me. And when I awaken into this like state where I'm peering out to a lot of people, I think that would sound terrifying, you know. And the funny thing is is you're not. There's there's zero fear in this case, so you just I don't know why, but well, actually I guess I do know why. The window man state is emotionless. There's there's zero emotion connected to it, so there's no excitement and certainly no fear. You you fear nothing from the window man state. Now on the outside. Sure, I mean I could say, well, I could worry if I went in and something happened, But inside, zero fear, zero fear, zero excitement, zero sadness everything. Is this something that you enjoy or is it something that you kind of regret? I know that's kind of a lopside of question, but like, is this something like you wish that you could didn't figure out or is this something that you enjoy now that you were able to do this, Because I feel like it could be a burden on either end. I see that I look at it from this perspective. I was guided all along the path for whatever reason. And why I was guided, I have to say that the entire thing seemed like a puzzle. And if it seemed like a puzzle, then that means that there was a creator of that puzzle, and so I was meant to do this for whatever reason. I can't explain why I was meant to do this, and I don't know exactly how far this goes Even now. Traversing time is a small portion of what I do. You can read about it in the book that there's many more things that I'm actually capable of on the inside. So I don't know. I believe that I was one hundred percent made to do this. And while it does suck sometimes and I have had moments where I felt like I don't want to do this anymore, I feel like I'm pushed to do it. It's almost like something's calling you to do this for whatever reason, You've been given this gift, and you fill the need that you have to do it absolutely. Because it's there are moments where it's burdensome. You know, there were times where I've had my face completely split open, and I've been kicked in the nuts by a horse. I had some very crazy things happen. They get attacked over and over and over again, and it's it sucks on a lot of levels. But at the same time, I know it's for a purpose. I do. I know there has to be some purpose in it. And whether that purpose is for me to change something, or whether that purpose is just to teach people that there's something in you that you can do, then maybe that's it. Maybe I just. Unlocked this just in order to show others that there's something that they can do and wake others up. How has it been for you talking about this with other people? Like obviously on my show, like this is what we talk about stuff like this, but like to the average person that's not into stuff like this, how do the people react to that? Because I know, like if someone usually just thrown out sid they've seen a big foot, people don't believe them half the time. So how does it work for you when you talked about it? You know, that's that's interesting because I find that it is the people closest to me that seem. To have the hardest time. When I when I talk to other people that aren't as close, they're fascinated and they they say, can you show me how? How how do you do these things? Please tell me? You know, And the people closest to me have the hardest time because, as we say, you're never a prophet in your hometown. You know that's the case. It's like, I'm not a prophet to to my own hometown. The people closest around you are typically the ones that are the hardest to convince of anything. So you mentioned you talked to a friend about it, you didn't didn't think he believed it? Is that like something you really is? It kind of like a struggle for you that the people closest to you don't necessarily go along way or you don't worry about it anymore. I you know, for me, it's like I one, I'm done caring what you know people think as far as like, you know, whether you believe me or you don't believe me, that doesn't matter to me much. The guy that I told from from work, the friend, uh, it was kind of up in the air. I wasn't sure how he felt about it. It was hard to. Read, you know, it wasn't sure whether he believed it or he didn't. My own dad struggles, you know, with it, and he was there for esp He was there for multiple things that happened along the way. You know. He remembers a specific time when. I was a kid, and uh, a tiny little kid, I mean a tiny kid, and I walked past a puddle and I knelt down and he looked at me and he says, what are you doing? And I looked at up at. Him and I said, I'm looking for microscopic pond life. And that blew him away. You know it's he knows he's been seeing this kind of stuff from me from the very beginning, and yet it still boggles the mind. So I think, no matter what, the people around you are always going to have the hardest time. Others they tend to see it easier for whatever reason. Yeah, I think for someone that's not close to this person, it doesn't affect them in a sense that once they walk away from you, they go on about their business. It's the people that are close to you because I deal all that with the stuff that I do with this show and everything else, Like I am known around my area is probably as a town crazy person at this point because of just the stuff that I talk about and oh he has a podcast. Oh yeah, Like so at this point, because I live in a small town, a lot of people know about what I do, and it's got a stigma. Topics that we talk about like this always have a stigma to it where the average person doesn't necessarily always go along with it. So when you talk about weird topics, people automatically associate you with being a weirdo because you talk about the weird stuff. But I think talking about these type of things are important because if you didn't talk about it and just go along with everything that goes out there in the mainstream life's pretty mundane and boring. Yeah, so it's the fascinating stuff of the unknown that's always been what's drawn me to it. Oh, that's I'm happy to hear that. Like people actually look at this and say, hey, you know what, there's all kinds of other things out there that we don't understand, and I want to understand it. And that's great. I think it's great that you do this. It's it's fantastic because there are so many things that people don't understand. Yeah, and yeah, a multitude of things on every level. So we've kind of went around everything. So for the basically, for the listeners out there, what are some of the things that you've done without like spoiling your book or anything, but what are some of the things that you've actually done when you're in the window state or something you'd want to talk about to try and give them an idea of some of the other things you've done besides just the time aspect to it. Oh, well, okay, I'm this is a this is a huge one right here. And I knew that we were going to talk about this. So I'll throw this out there, and this is something that if you haven't looked into, go ahead and look into it, and you're going to find out that everything I'm saying is one hundred percent truth. So at the end of Window Man, I had decided that I wasn't sure that I wanted to actually do this anymore. You know, at the end of the book, I decided I wasn't sure, but I left it open in saying, in the words of Rocky Balboa, id to hear Nobell one more round, like maybe I might actually do it. And so something happened that forced me back into this situation. There was a very very public execution. And with this very public execution, I believed that I could stop it, and so I tried. I stepped into the situation, and this was the first time that I had ever put myself in the public forum doing something like this. This was I'm on the world stage, and so I stepped in. And this is where I met the Darker Force, which is the reason that I called the second book the Darker Force. So it suspended everything that I could do. There was and I'm talking about not just in like the supernatural I'm talking about physically and everything. There were times I couldn't even move. Phone calls that were that I tried to make were shut down. Everything that I tried to do. There was nothing I could do to save this person. So being an author is a gifting that I have. I said, you know what, all right, I'm I'm just going to write a book, and if the book releases before this happens, then this person will know. And so I wrote the book, published it through a small publishing company, and it released one day before the murder. And that was the best I could. We pushed so hard to get it through. I pushed so hard to get it through, and later on they tried to say that it was published two days after. None of it makes sense anyway, because I have my book Window Man right here that I wrote and it took me five days get. It approved through Amazon. And we're talking about a finished product, right, We're not talking about something that just got written and then got pushed through Amazon. It doesn't happen like that. You don't get a publisher for something that you just did, you know afterwards, and and all of a sudden, it's two days later, it's it's out there. It's impossible. It's a one impossibility. Okay. Now, then they go ahead and they dismissed the book as AI slop and they say, yeah, it's no good, it's slopped, and they just obliterate it from the internet. Now, if you're going to obliterate this from the internet when it has an opportunity to make money, why, I mean, AI slot can make money, right, there's a reason that they don't want you to see it. Later on, I actually found a digital copy of the book and they had changed multitudes of things, like there was a situation where they said that in this murder situation, and I will go into this and I won't just leave everybody hanging, but that they ran up and put pressure on the wound, and that they ran ivs and all of these things which we know were not true, that that's not what actually happened at the event, but they do that in order to make it seem like it's not real. These were things that they changed. And I'm just going to go ahead and throw this out here right now. What I am talking about is the murder of Charlie Kirk, and I am talking about a book called The Shooting of Charlie Kirk, and it was written by someone called Anastasia J. Casey. And what I'm telling you is that I'm the author of that book, and I actually have some things where I've encoded it so that people would know. I didn't wasn't that I wanted everyone to know, but I wanted my family at least to know that this was never going to come out. I never wanted this to come out, but at the time same time, I'm kind of pissed off in the way that they handled it, you know. So my firstborn son, his name is Antonio. First two letters of his name are an. My second born son, his name is Carmine in the first two letters of his name are C A, as well as my last name, which is c A, which are also the first two letters of Anastasia and Casey. I remember that again, this was six months ago, but I remember someone on social media posting about the book and they showed that the date on it was the day before. And then I remember the whole AI thing, and I remember it was completely taking off the internet us all. I remember all of that. I saw some of that stuff because I go down the rabbit Hole conspiracy group pages and on Breddit and everything else, and there was post on there about that. So that is interesting to me. I mean, especially since I'm telling everyone that I am quite literally moving through time and people have asked so often about that book online. There's multiple, you know, pages where people are talking about that thing. And I am saying, now that that question is answered, that I'm answering. It didn't you. Is there a reason why you use the pseudonym Sweden m whatever the how to pronounce. For that name, because originally I didn't. I didn't want anyone to know. This was never going to be something that was going to get put out there. Also, it was paid in cash from a small publishing company and I didn't and the actual author copy is burned. It was never going to be anything that I wanted. Because one I talked about this earlier, when you asked me about profiting, you can't profit. If you attempt to profit, it attacks you. Therefore, I could not profit off the book anyway, and I didn't want it to be traced back to me in any way. So that's the reason why if there's questions about that, that's why. Yeah, Because I just remember when I saw that it was literally like a day or two after the whole thing had happened, someone had been posting that book and there's a big old rabbit hole about the book and there was no information about the author. People were saying the author wasn't a real person, and that's when the whole AI thing came about. But I was thinking, even if it was AI, someone still has to program the AI to create a book. They had to put it up on Amazon, it has to go through an approval process. It's not just something that they could have done instantaneously, because I've released stuff through Amazon too, and it does take several days far to go through the processing. So for me, I was like, it's awful convenient that it comes out the original date was the day before and then then the show and is like two days afterwards. I was like, someone would have had to literally have written a book in a day with AI got everything that like, it just the timeframe didn't match up. It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. No, I mean it one hundred percent makes no sense. Uh, there's no way it could have went through that fast, and there's and why did they even change the date? Nobody changes the date on when it's released. But they did hear. Uh. They don't scrub things from the internet. Generally speaking. They might say this book is, you know, not available anymore or whatever for whatever reason. But but to completely scrub it, that's that's a little suspicious, right, that's, as we say, a little suss. Yeah, that is very very suss because I have noticed too, like if I order copies of the books that I've made, the date on them of when they've were printed does change, but the actual date that it was uploaded should have never changed. No, yeah, breathing, So this is exactly what I'm talking about. There are things that they attempt to hide, and they do for a reason, and there's a bunch of them that I'm sure you're very familiar with. For example, are you familiar with Danny Gohler and his experiment where he was showing that there is a code that there literally is, and they were looking at it through red NM sixty five diffracted laser and what they did is they put the people on DMT. Now I understand the DMT is a hallucinogenic drug. We've talked about that before. But the fact is is that when people have hallucinogenic drugs. They see different things. You don't all see the same thing, right, but everybody seem to see the same thing. And so what I'm saying is, all of a sudden they come out and they debunk this and they say this guy's a nut. This isn't true, and they make him sound like a crazy. It's not the case. He was seeing the code. And they did the same thing with Max Laughlin. If you've ever looked into him's thirteen year old kids, saying that there was these different dimensions and different realities and he ended up creating some a way to create free energy. And what they did is they they shut him up. All of a sudden, he's not talking anymore. They were that he was supposed to go to these big conferences and say things and just no more. Because that's that's how they do. They say you're crazy. When they can't prove that you're crazy, then they threaten you. When they threaten you, if that doesn't work, then they finish you. Kind of like what they did to Nicola Tesslo years ago. Yes, Nikola Tesla. Yeah. And one of the greatest things that I loved about what he said was that if we understood the power of three six nine that we would conceivably run the universe, right, So there there is so much in those numbers, and that that's actually part of you know, the things that I'll be teaching, you know, in my in my school program, when I'm helping people to learn who they truly are. Let's talk a little bit more about the schooling stuff before he finishes. Is this something you just started doing recently or. Yes, this is a gist. I haven't even released the first one yet. Okay, so so we we we just got on there and I'm really looking forward to that should be next week when we release the first teachings. Okay, Now, is that something you're offering for free or is it something that. You're that one. No, we're we're not, but we're not very high priced realistically. It's uh, there's people on there that are, you know, one hundred and something dollars a month. We're talking twenty three dollars a month. It's just for my time to actually, you know, create spend my time doing it. But I just really want people to have a chance to find out who they are. And it's more about that than it is about the money. But we all have to make a living and do the things that we. Have to do. Right, Yeah, I get it. I've said that too. It's like I do this podcast and there's commercials that get put in here for when people listen, or there's advertisements. I don't have any control over what advertisements are placed or whatever, but it's like it's kind of like selling out at that point because you have to make money to cover the overhead cost of doing something like this. Because people like to complain, but I put a lot of time, money, and energy into doing stuff like this, so I can't just keep doing it at a loss. Even though I'm still at a loss, it's not it's not as deep of a loss as it has been, not as deep. Yeah. Absolutely, we all have to, you know, we got to make a living somehow and do and what we do. So right, I understand that one hundred percent. Where can anyone find information about the classes that you're going to be offering? Uh, you can go on school the app itself and just look up your supernatural too or will Cameron and it should and it should show up on there and they can read about it on the actual app itself. I haven't been advertising, you know, outside of the app yet. Well, probably will do that in the future, but but for now, You're Supernatural too, is what it's called. And even just go on the school app and find it. And so by the time this episode airs, it will probably already be available at that point, because I'm usually several weeks ahead of recording schedules, so before it gets released before. Okay, so everybody out there, it's it's already out Thereah. It should already be out there before we kind of wrap things up. There's a couple of things I actually wanted to ask, like, when you're doing the window Man and everything, is this something that you would want to share with other people have had to maybe figure something out like that, or you think there's too much ramifications for going and giving that possible abilities to other people. Well, first, I don't believe that everyone as the window Man or as or that's their gift. I believe everyone's is unique, So I don't know what their gifting would look like. I just want to help people step into it. And I do think that they're all for use. They're all They weren't given for no reason, and not even this one was given for no reason. This was there even with the ramifications and all of the things that I've seen, you know, where it's tried to kill me, where it's tried to do multiple things. There's a reason behind it. And so there's a reason behind everyone's gifts. So yes, I want to help them unlock their gifts, believing that, uh, that's how we bring about the end. At the end of the simulation. What is after the simulation? Have any any England any idea of what could possibly be after the simulation, like if we were at all to wake up from the simulation, like, what would it be? Okay? Well, I mean I have my my beliefs on that, and I believe that the that the darker force, I believe are the fallen ones. I believe that present when the code was written, and that when we wake up, that we we transcend this thing and and see who we really are and where we really came from, you know, and stare into the face of the Creator. I believe that one hundred percent that this is uh, this is just us being locked in something a prison for our minds until we actually awaken and we we find out who we truly are. And I can say this that I believe that of the two hundred that are falling that and that's how many that they couldn't stand against one fully awakened. It's a that's how powerful we truly are, and people just don't understand that. And this is what that's the thing that. We need to step into our giftings in order to to exit this thing. And when we do, we're going to find out that we were far more powerful than we ever imagined. You said there was two hundred fall on a zero reason that you know that there's two hundred. Yes, there are two hundred craters. Okay, yeah, in the in the earth. This is where it's one's still on fire actually, which is kind of which is kind of interesting. There are two hundred creators. This is where they came through. Okay, that's that's exactly what happened there. I actually saw I saw things. Someone sent it to me about a month and a half, two months ago. It was actually a link to a page I did an article about that that the craters were actually where the fallen it came from. So interesting, Again, we say, I don't believe in coincidences, So it's you just brought something up to someone else that just said to me not long ago. So when I see things like that, it's just like, oh, okay, it's one of those things like it's not de jeu vous, but it's like this was something that was meant to. Confirmation. Yeah, it confirms some stuff for me. But well, we've been going on for a little over an hour. I try and keep these right about at an hour. So is there anything else you would like to discuss before we wrap these this up? Uh? Well, I mean I could talk about you know, the frequency binders if you if you'd like to hear about that. Yeah, whatever you want to talk about, I'm good with that. And this one. And first of all, let me let me preface this by saying that the first two that I'm going to give you, and this isn't all of them, but the first two that I'm going to give you are going to be things that are easy to understand. The third one is something that will actually probably bring a whole bunch of comments and it probably permeate the comments section more than anything we've talked about, which is kind of crazy, but because we've said some ridiculous things. But the first thing is your your job, you know, working a forty hour week job, where you're basically focused on only your evenings and your weekends. It you bound in. A in a lower frequency where your in frustration and all of these different things, and so you don't actually look inward because you're you're too focused on these moments. That you have that are your your peace time. So so obviously I think a lot of people look at that and go, yeah, that's that's true. The second is your screens, you know, I mean your television, your computer, your phone, all all of these things they keep you bound. You know, you're. Scrolling, just doom scrolling, looking through you know, different things, and you know, taking a hit of dopamine that we get whenever we you know, see somebody likes our post, and that keeps you bound as well. So these things are things that need to be limited. And I understand that, like a forty hour week job for some people is just something you can't get around. It's a very tough thing. But if we could get ourselves into a place where we were making our own hours and we were doing something we loved versus something that we hate and working for somebody else, then that helps you to elevate your frequency. But the third one, the one that is most I guess it pisses most people off. And I don't really care because the truth of the matter is, it's like I'm here to tell truth, and if truth offends people, then it offends people. But animals are huge frequency binders and uh and chief amongst those animals are dogs. And the reason being that dogs are such frequency binders. And like I said, I won't just say it, I will explain it. A dog's bark, let's off a frequency that lowers your own, okay, and anytime that you have more than one dog, you're compounding all these effects. Like so it's it's it's way worse. Number two, A dog has a smell. Now your old factory is picking that up. Regardless of whether you go nose blind to it or not, it's still being picked up and it's lowering your frequency. You set on your couch, you get hair on your clothes. Now you got this hair on your clothes, and now you're pissed, right, So it's lowering your frequency. When you're trying to go out. You got to take a lint roller to yourself. This is not this is not something you want to do. You step outside, you step in a landmine. Okay, now you're frustrated. Some people say, man, I'm good at cleaning it all up. So you're spending your life, you know, picking up crap, which is also not something that is helpful to your frequency. You want to go somewhere, and you can't go anywhere because nobody wants to take care of the dog or the multiple dogs in a lot of cases. So now it's like you have a couple of choices. One choice is I don't go. Second choice is I pay somebody, and now that comes out of my trip fund, and now I don't get to do all the things that I wanted to do. And then you've got your third choice, which is I take them with me, and now they're lowering my frequency and a time it should be raising. And so you know, like I said, I don't like to spend too much time on that, and I do want to give a disclaimer and say that I also understand for people out there that you know, there are seeing eye dogs that do some really good things. They are bloodhounds that have found you know, the dead bodies and things like that. There are or tracked people down there is the canines who work for the police, department and defend you know, police life officer lives things like that. And some heroic dogs have done some stuff. Heck, a dog saved my own dad's life, drug him in from out in the water when he was cramping up. There are heroic acts that happened, but they just weren't simply meant to be in every single house across them. Is there anything like you talk about dogs, but is there anything other than like other animal type aspects to it that have similarities to that or is it just h. You mean other animals that do the same things. Yeah, oh absolutely, a cat's they do the same thing. I've got a cat. I didn't have a cat. My ex wife had a cat and it was her daughter's and it would come over and it would stick its hand underneath the little space in the door at night, and it would smack the door, you know, or when you're trying to sleep, it would run and it would just jump into the blinds, you know, in the window. It just it did ridiculous things. And so cats are only a little bit better than dogs. And I say that because you can generally kind of leave a cat alone, right, you know, whereas you can't really leave a dog alone. So a cat gets just that little notch being slightly better than the dog as far as that goes. And then they don't bark. They do do their meowing and all that kind of stuff, but it's it's not as bad, but still they're they're close. A lot of animals do bind the frequency, and it's I know it's hard for people to understand, but it's it's the truth. Is it better off to not have a pet. For all the people out there, yes, yes, it is one hundred percent better off not to have a pet. You know, I've said this multiple times before, but I think that a dog or an animal is really just especially a dog, is just looking for something that you want, and you're making it the dog. For example, you want home protection, you want something to alert you, right, It's like, well an alarm would do that. You want protection, a gun would do that. Do you want companionship? A partner would do that? You know. So it's just it's not necessary in every case to have a dog, and we've made it this very normal thing for everybody to have dogs in multiple in a lot of cases. Yeah, I have two dogs, two cats, and two goats. Goats, I would imagine the goats probably give you the least hard time. Huh. The goats are about the easiest to maintain because they live out back and eat the grass and rarely do I have to go and do anything with them. But if they see me, they still go out there and scream that they want me to feed them, even though they've got acres of grass to go eat. If given the choice, I would take the goats. Yeah. Yeah, the goats. They can be pretty funny. They're goofy, but they're also dumb but also smart. They're the smartest dumb animal I've ever. Seen, the smartest dumb man. Why of that, they get their heads stuck in the fence, but they will figure out ways to escape that you wouldn't think they'd figure out. So it's just kind of crazy. Well, well, you can probably wrap this one up, but before we do, for anyone that's curious and interested, is there a way for them to reach out to you they'd like to talk with you or something? Sure? Absolutely, I have a TikTok at Papa Will's Reviews. And I do food. You know, I'm a food critic, so food reviews on there, and yeah, if somebody'd like to d m me. Go go right ahead. You can message me on school as well. If that's something you'd like to do. You can look me up on Facebook. I have a page just under Will Cameron, so Instagram all kinds of different places where people could could go ahead and message me and d m me. I'm more than happy to get back to everybody. Awesome. I will try it and remember to put that in the show notes, or if you send it to me in an email, I'll just copy it and put it in there. All right, you got it? Well, Will, It has been a pleasure talking to you. It's very interesting, very informative, and gives you a lot to think about. That's awesome. It was a pleasure. I enjoyed it very much. Well, you have a good night, all right, you do. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tells Podcast to gmail dot com, or you can also go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to the contact section. Just make sure to reach out and get hold of me and we will get something schedule for a few sure episode. You can also find ten Foil Tales on Facebook and Instagram. Just look for ten foil Tales podcast reach out to me that way too. Remember to share the show around. Word of mouth is the best way to help the show grow. And just remember truth comes at cost. Are you willing to pay the price.

