Ep. 62: The Lost Frequency Swapcast

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[00:01:58] and I just turn around and I pull ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with

[00:02:07] that. They had prockercy of the call is one of the things that turned me away the quickest.

[00:02:17] When I turn my headlights on it turns and look at us and one of the things I remember the

[00:02:25] most were the eyes were going to rent. I see an orb of light it is just circling these steps

[00:02:35] like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he's saw you a flow they're basically

[00:02:44] like what are you talking about. That seven foot up on a tree peaking around it and that's

[00:02:53] where I saw the top of the muzzle nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing it felt like

[00:02:59] death. Welcome back to another new episode of 10 foil tells I'm your host Brandon right night

[00:03:10] set so it's going to be a little bit different doing a swap cast with the loss frequency podcast

[00:03:15] so Ryan Tom from there will be on here to talk about their experiences and me sharing some of mine

[00:03:22] looks to be a really fun and interesting episodes hope you guys enjoy it. Definitely check out the

[00:03:28] last frequency podcast you can find it wherever you find 10 foil tells podcasts so just remember to

[00:03:33] make sure you go give them a listen they've got some pretty cool guest and interesting topics

[00:03:37] they discuss so thought you guys would enjoy it but before we do that we got some business take care

[00:03:42] of as usual if you have an experience you'd like to share send an email 10 foil tells podcast at

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[00:04:00] follows on there again word of mouth and sharing the podcast and everything you do and that aspect

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[00:04:13] new guest on the podcast so everything you do I appreciate it but that all being said

[00:04:21] I want to take too much time so we're gonna jump right on into it so sit back relax and enjoy the show

[00:04:29] like take this time to welcome my guest Ryan Tom thanks for coming out talk to me

[00:04:33] hey thanks for having us all yeah this is this is awesome it was a long time we've been trying to

[00:04:38] organize this for a little bit and you know with our schedules and we finally made a work

[00:04:43] yep so it's always hard to get other podcasters I've noticed on here because we've all got

[00:04:47] other interviews to do too and it's hard to balance it out what happened jobs and families

[00:04:54] and all the fun stuff that we do but we got to work tell me about it tell me about it it would be great

[00:05:02] that if this could be our job I know this is a you know it's a it's the side job it's a side hustle

[00:05:09] right now um but in the future we hope this to be our job and uh you know get away from

[00:05:16] our full-time jobs or whatever we are currently doing and do this full-time yeah I think I would

[00:05:22] enjoy that but at the same time I get bored so I'd rather not if this to me is fun it's like

[00:05:30] the the musician side of me like it's my hobby right now because I'm not doing music stuff so if

[00:05:34] I'd start doing this as a job I'd probably get bored with it like I do my normal job I don't I don't

[00:05:39] want to see it as a job I guess right because I think anytime you turn anything to your job that

[00:05:44] it's exactly I get kind of bored with stuff too but I didn't and I did too but the only thing is I

[00:05:49] think though is that would be different yet like editing you know does become like the job part of

[00:05:55] it but the interviewing of people is fantastic yeah that's fun you never know you're gonna hear

[00:06:01] I've uh I've heard some strange things and I've always been somewhat of a skeptic myself so it's like

[00:06:10] I've had some weird stuff happen but at the same time it's like

[00:06:15] I don't know about all this and then I started doing the podcast and I'm trying to be more open-minded

[00:06:20] about things and the more I've gotten into it and the more I've heard of like well

[00:06:25] I'm just a guy with a microphone at this point I don't know what the hell's going on

[00:06:29] I'm not gonna say I'm an expert or anyone that comes off saying they're an expert and they know

[00:06:35] what they're talking about I'm like yeah we'll say about that but okay yeah there's a lot of

[00:06:41] people who claim to be experts in things that you can't you can't really really know everything about

[00:06:46] it's yeah it's impossible even to be an expert in like gravity yeah there's always something

[00:06:51] changing with that too yeah the way it's been like I'm being pulled down or pushed down

[00:06:56] you know which one is it if you've ever went down the flat earth realm they say gravity doesn't

[00:07:01] exist exactly or you're buoyant now oh I've heard that with you actually speaking to that we

[00:07:07] our guest tomorrow night is a big flat earther so that's gonna be a fantastic I'm looking

[00:07:13] forward to that one yeah we're gonna talk about Tataria yeah and we're gonna delve into Tataria as

[00:07:18] well that's cool I've actually was trying to find someone to be on an episode about Tataria so

[00:07:25] he was on the he's a he was just yeah who is just on 10 foil hats

[00:07:29] uh I've used them a couple times actually yeah it's Hitler I don't know if you know

[00:07:32] all the Hitler's Hitler no I'm not familiar with him yeah well look about these like a documentary

[00:07:38] and yeah he's just that he's in the process of creating a documentary about Tataria right now

[00:07:44] nice yeah I've heard a little bit about it I haven't done a whole lot of looking into it but

[00:07:49] I actually last week I started posting up some stuff in groups because that's how I find a lot

[00:07:53] of the guests I have or whatever and I haven't heard back from anybody on Facebook or what

[00:08:01] yeah usually Facebook I also do read it but reddit's red it's can be I think I saw I saw both

[00:08:07] you guys on red it too then we've been in some of the same subs and like reddit is very uh

[00:08:12] that's a rabbit hole it it's a rabbit hole in itself because you've got some people on there

[00:08:17] that want to be cool and the other people they're straight up dick so it's just like whatever

[00:08:21] yep that's exactly it you know there are some people who just want to be ails and they're just

[00:08:26] and they do that and you're like uh and ignore a plow through man like I go in like I'm a big

[00:08:31] doom metal fan like psychedelic doom stoner doom and like just to get some like karma points

[00:08:37] so I could post some of my stuff I'm just like hey so what do you guys think about the first uh

[00:08:42] three world or only three street albums well you know how would you put those and if people just

[00:08:47] start going like yeah yeah and then you get the karma but so you know if you know like the stuff

[00:08:51] you're talking about but when it comes to the things that we talk about on our podcast if you go

[00:08:55] on any of those like the posting requirements sometimes like you can't do this has to be this

[00:09:00] where they on Tuesday and then someone's like you don't know what you're talking about dude so

[00:09:05] I just I don't worry about that you just got to plow through and do your butt but but finding the

[00:09:10] but finding guest though like you know like how I found ginger on right right right that's uh

[00:09:14] that's hard yeah that's a minefield it is it is you don't know who you're gonna get wow that's just

[00:09:19] the background noise is really going off right now we got a lot of uh yeah dogs and trucks

[00:09:25] I don't really hear a lot of it for what that's the thing I go with zoom is they actually

[00:09:29] muff a lot a lot of background noise where I have it set up no you can actually go through the

[00:09:35] through the audio yourself and change the way you want it they have fresh it if you have the paid

[00:09:39] subscription they have ways to eliminate background noises oh wow so like I know Stringyard does

[00:09:46] that as well but it's it's all automatic you know and that's how this is too so okay I don't like

[00:09:53] it so sorry but I can't play with any of those settings we or at least I haven't looked into

[00:09:59] playing it at any of the settings maybe I've looked at Stringyard but it's $25 a month and I'm

[00:10:03] like I'm only paying 15 for 10 when I look up when I look online it says uh 25 well we got

[00:10:11] the basic essential package so the basic he said the essential package all it is it's the same

[00:10:17] as the I think it's like the same as the $25 one but you have the Stringyard logo always up kind

[00:10:24] of thing that's the only thing that you do but it gives you everything else and then if you get a

[00:10:30] referral from somebody who has Stringyard they get a bonus so the next time they sign up they get like

[00:10:36] 20 or like for their next year they get like 20 bucks off but that gives you I think it's like

[00:10:41] 15 bucks off for the year as well so instead of paying 120 you're paying like 105 nice yeah I just

[00:10:49] but if you don't zoom for work well I still this is separate from my work because I didn't want

[00:10:54] my work having access to what I do on the podcast what I do for work uh I know they know I a lot of

[00:11:02] people know I do a podcast to work but if they knew the stuff I talk about or this and that like

[00:11:06] I'm in charge of multimillion dollar contracts for construction work and everything so the

[00:11:12] if they think I'm some crazy person that sees aliens or dog men or something like that

[00:11:18] start questioning uh if they're really can trust me to be making sure I build these roads correctly

[00:11:23] and bridges but the aliens built the pyramid you would think that would be like an advantage yeah

[00:11:30] what's actually it's actually crazy is I have one of our previous guests I'm not going to mention

[00:11:34] any names but they have someone else who experienced a bunch of stuff with them and this person will

[00:11:41] not come forward because he's almost in the same position as you and he's like once every tire

[00:11:48] then I will come forward and you know and share my story but up until that point I'm keeping quiet

[00:11:53] over everything yeah this is at this rate I'm like people know like people that I work for people that

[00:12:01] I get because based on my consultants so I get hired like I send a high priced tour basically

[00:12:08] I get bit off to government agencies and make sure the jobs get done correctly and

[00:12:14] my company makes a decent amount of money off me I make decent money and it's like

[00:12:21] whatever I guess if a client goes on there thinks that I'm crazy and then but if you're dealing with

[00:12:25] government contracts it's still the same thing dog you got NORAD and all that's yuckin mountain

[00:12:32] and you know they're in the alien stuff too what do you I mean it don't solve disclosure you

[00:12:35] can't build a building because you want to talk about the things that you're already doing

[00:12:38] come on yeah I don't have the clearance level I don't think I actually do have it I was in

[00:12:46] the military so I didn't have a clearance level secret I have a clearance level clearance level K

[00:12:52] that's why I couldn't tell you okay until now so it's a deal I have with the government

[00:12:57] no I gotta kill you no one of the guys one of the guys that I had on a contract they were doing

[00:13:04] um they're called drilled shafts they had to do like these case ons and drill them as they could put

[00:13:08] in these pillars for the bridge that we were building and he claimed he used to work for

[00:13:15] a company that built like blast doors which I don't really know what a blast I know what

[00:13:20] like the term of blast doors I don't know he claims that he went to one of the not area 51

[00:13:26] those of a base out in Nevada that wasn't considered 51 but they weren't allowed to see anything

[00:13:32] and they could only be in that one specific area with guards surrounding them the whole time

[00:13:36] by they installed these blast doors but on the way there and the way back they were

[00:13:41] allowed to watch where they were going they had them like cover it up to where they could see wow

[00:13:46] now mostly feed me a line of crap probably but at the same time you never know someone has to

[00:13:50] install that stuff exactly exactly someone's got to install it and very much could be maybe like

[00:13:57] maybe like a really strong blind person with good sense of feel I'm just like a braille door

[00:14:08] but yeah we've been talking for a few minutes now you guys want to let everyone know the name

[00:14:13] of your podcast and everything yeah yeah I was that was that was it we should jump into

[00:14:17] I didn't know how to shoot warning in but I was like you get there you're a professional

[00:14:20] it's aware of the lost frequency podcast and my name is Tom and this is Ryan we're on youtube

[00:14:26] facebook reddit

[00:14:29] gophe tiktok and instagram but tiktok and instagram are kind of like they're difficult I'm dragging them

[00:14:36] along every now and then I'll post some of that a little bit along there yeah we just we discuss all

[00:14:41] matters of weird things quote unquote that mainstream won't touch and um a place where people get

[00:14:47] to tell their stories and say what they feel tell their truths and that's what we do yeah you and I

[00:14:53] are pretty much uh same line that's kind of what I do here to is I have to be people with their

[00:14:59] experiences I've interviewed researchers that have their own theories on things or

[00:15:05] a lot of different topics that I've touched based on so that's kind of I enjoy hearing the stuff

[00:15:10] because I think we've all had something that's made us start doing this or looking into this stuff

[00:15:16] I know there's I know there's some people that don't really have experiences they just do it for

[00:15:20] the entertainment purposes or whatever but I've always felt like it's more genuine when someone

[00:15:25] actually has had something that's made them want to look into this stuff yeah true that's what

[00:15:33] mean if I've had a couple of other bolted guys experience I've had a Batman and uh whatever

[00:15:40] that stuff that's happening to me out there on the ranch so I don't know what you can call that

[00:15:45] paranormal paranormal stuff yeah so yeah so far it's like a general term yeah so I mean

[00:15:51] it always interested me because it's so scary so strange no one believes you but at the same time

[00:15:59] I think most people have had somewhat I would say I would say similar but everybody yeah

[00:16:06] everybody's had experiences and whether they want to acknowledge it or not it's a big thing

[00:16:10] and like myself paranormal kind of go hand in hand with me I've seen tons of stuff um constantly

[00:16:17] and then there's the couple UFO sightings both here in Mexico actually strangely enough oh yeah

[00:16:26] and we're in Mexico that's where we we record on the top of my my roof on a patio kind of rooftop

[00:16:33] patio here in Mexico in the Gulf of Mexico and it's amazing kind of jealous as you guys were in T

[00:16:40] shirts and here we are freezing our asses off here in Indiana and I'm kind of I'm kind of I'm

[00:16:44] kind of warm it's kind of uh we just go wind or anything like 85 to the 86 about 28 yeah

[00:16:51] I think it's Celsius 29 uh I'm Canadian he's American so that's why we're uh 87 yeah and that's

[00:16:58] that's cool this is the cool time of the year yes this is it there's a nice yeah it actually was

[00:17:03] kind of cold last night I was I was getting a little like the 70s dude you're like wow I mean like

[00:17:08] the lowest daytime high I've seen here two years of 74 and you were laughing at me when

[00:17:14] when we're talking about here he was laughing at me because I was wearing a sweater because I've

[00:17:17] been here for a while already and I was already somewhat acclimatized and he's like what dude and

[00:17:22] he's wearing you were wearing a tank top and like shorts and like dude what'd you do it and I'm

[00:17:26] wearing a sweater he's like I'm cold actually cold then you're like what I'm I said wait to next

[00:17:31] year because I moved here from Germany which like it's like like you know like Canada with six

[00:17:35] months of the year like winter and well I don't know how cloudy it isn't Calgary but like

[00:17:40] not Germany is always cloudy right always cloudy yeah Calgary is near one of the sunniest places

[00:17:45] uh in I think it's like at least in Canada but I think it's actually in the world that gets

[00:17:48] the most sun and it's a place called medicine hat gets the most sun out of any place in the

[00:17:52] one that's right what I was it was the sunniest city in all of Germany but still

[00:17:57] I mean I remember there was a year I think 2019 something like that the whole month of

[00:18:02] December the sun did not come out one time it was always cloudy that's depressing oh yeah

[00:18:06] oh yeah that's why I'm here now what are these is yeah we get sunshine it's been sunny the last

[00:18:11] few days we actually haven't had any snow yet which is nice because that's uh I used to love snow

[00:18:19] and then before I do what I do now like I had to actually work for our DOT department so I had

[00:18:27] to plow snow and that being on call 24-7 that uh started hating winners this is this magic yeah

[00:18:37] move move that's easy well I don't have to deal with any of that now so I can snow eight feet I'll

[00:18:42] give a shit I always thought that was funny but people complain about the weather and they just like

[00:18:47] don't move yeah but could be that your job in your family and everything else is there

[00:18:51] well then change your job and change your family it's uh so I get to live once I already told my

[00:18:57] wife but it wasn't for the stepkids and everything else like we would uh we have opportunities to move

[00:19:04] because they're hiring it's my same company looking for people to go down to Florida like

[00:19:09] Southern Florida they're looking for people's southern Texas oh wow that's like man I would uh

[00:19:14] I'd get the hell out of this area if I could but kind of stuck here right if here is what is my

[00:19:22] what's life yep yeah so we see this we got it's podcasting more or less because we've all had

[00:19:27] experiences we're we're both a little strange and you know our listeners know that by now but

[00:19:34] yeah we're definitely weird rise like the like a dream guy and I'm like a dreamy guy

[00:19:42] oh my god that was good man how did you guys meet each other far as like at a gay bar uh no we um

[00:19:50] I uh he was already here uh he moved here for a very specific reason uh I think you can kind

[00:19:56] of figure out what that was uh it happened about three years ago yeah it's a big stereo

[00:20:02] yeah yeah yeah I wanted to go away with this guy yeah I wanted to get rid of it uh I want to get out

[00:20:07] away from um the lockdowns that were happening where uh where I was living it was it was getting

[00:20:13] ridiculous that could have go to restaurants or anything like that and uh not not saying like

[00:20:17] that was the reason but I'm just saying like ridiculous you know it's show me your papers

[00:20:22] yeah it was like no so we left uh came here um with my wife and my daughter and uh and I monitored

[00:20:33] there's an ex-bath facebook group for this area and I would watch it because I would

[00:20:38] it was full of scared people but every now and then you get someone posting in there someone

[00:20:43] new who would post in there and asking the wrong questions but for me the right questions and

[00:20:47] I'd be like okay I'm gonna reach out to that person yeah I saw Tom I think you're asking maybe

[00:20:53] about uh well I don't know but you're asking something and I was like dude you don't ask that he

[00:20:57] don't ask those questions uh here but I will help you so that's how we met uh was just over

[00:21:03] Facebook he was still in Germany and he's like I want to move there like cool and so he eventually came

[00:21:08] here we met and just started talking hanging out and I started showing that I'm telling him that I'm

[00:21:15] weird hey chef saying he's like oh yeah the other day he was like showing me his follow-all

[00:21:20] properties like yeah they have seen a shadow figure over there in the corner and I was just like

[00:21:25] what about hello man you know they're like they can give me a little foreplay on this situation here

[00:21:31] bro so that's that's it and like Tom was already doing a podcast like a comedy type podcast

[00:21:37] and I was doing a I was not doing anything well I do what I was doing but uh I always wanted to

[00:21:43] have a podcast kind of exactly the style that we're doing and it was for a couple it was already

[00:21:48] for a couple years I had wanted to do this I never really jumped at it and then we just started

[00:21:54] talking and developed into this there've been any things that you've been down they said something

[00:22:00] about a shadow person have you been encountering and experiencing weird shit since you've been down

[00:22:04] there uh I experienced weird shit on the regular uh okay so I'll say like

[00:22:12] instead of going into ghosts or anything like that or paranormal I'll go into UFOs so um I was

[00:22:18] sitting up on this exact patio where I was uh one of my friends was going through a bit of a hard time

[00:22:23] and he's like hey can you call me back in his back in canon like hey can you call me like sure

[00:22:27] so I went and sat on the ground here on the patio up here and had all the lights off

[00:22:32] but it's it's nice when all the lights are off you know it's kind of relaxing and peaceful

[00:22:36] that movement the dogs are parking and uh so I'm sitting there talking on the phone

[00:22:41] something just told me look up like just just watching that direction and it the exact same

[00:22:47] direction so I'm sitting there watching and I see a light coming towards me coming towards me it's

[00:22:50] getting larger and larger and larger and I'm like so I'm talking on the phone was happening I'm like oh

[00:22:55] hey I see this light you know it's getting brighter and brighter and could it be a plane at that time

[00:23:01] yeah it could be could it be a UFO at that time yeah it could be well then it split it

[00:23:06] it split into two lights and they kind of did a almond or like an I don't know

[00:23:11] oval an oval but more of like uh but shaped ends like like like pointed ends I guess you could say

[00:23:17] it went like this came back and around and then joined back together again um

[00:23:23] and I'm sitting there talking to him on the phone as this is happening and I'm like dude I'm

[00:23:27] seeing this this is happening right in front of me and he's like oh that's awesome you know

[00:23:31] and he's the believer as well you know like he he I don't know if he's had any experience in

[00:23:34] himself but and then I saw it go and then it disappeared now after it disappeared I was still

[00:23:42] looking in that direction maybe a couple minutes later um and that exact spot I would

[00:23:50] I what when I saw would only be best described as a shooting star just in that little spot wasn't

[00:23:55] like it's like what flying across the whole uh uh skyline or anything like that was just in that

[00:24:00] little spot was just like a and I just I'm like I just saw a shooting star in the exact location

[00:24:06] where this disappeared um was it related I can't tell you I would like to I would assume it was

[00:24:12] but I don't know so that was my UFO thing that happened here yeah and then uh

[00:24:19] I just saw like a we talked about a little bit ago that weird stuff here tonight and then um

[00:24:28] ironically as before I went on another podcast a couple weeks ago as when I saw the thing out in

[00:24:32] the backyard I don't know what to describe describe that thing in the backyard again that was

[00:24:37] that was interesting it looked like a flare because it was bright orange and it was like almost

[00:24:43] fiery yeah it didn't have any like it had like that flicker like a flare would but a flare if you

[00:24:50] see it wouldn't be coming down this thing was almost hovering and then it went up a little bit

[00:24:54] and then it just goes well lately just it didn't like fade out it literally just disappeared

[00:25:01] what are these what are those things called that they used to call them back in the

[00:25:07] there there are little lights that used to glow in the forest and they would disappear and

[00:25:10] they had a name for them yes will the whisper yes will the whisper it could have been you know

[00:25:18] maybe it uh something along that line well this was up in the sky so I don't know oh okay how high

[00:25:24] up in the sky was it I mean it had to been it wasn't super high because my backyard I've got a

[00:25:30] couple acres we got goats and stuff back there so above the goat area and there's a big field like

[00:25:35] there's next to us we lived a big field behind us there was like another 30 something acres of

[00:25:39] fields those out above the field and I would say depending on how big it was if it was huge obviously

[00:25:46] it was really high up there but it was still looking at my level maybe a hundred feet in the air

[00:25:52] if that was again I can't tell the distance for this completely dark outside like your guys of course

[00:25:58] it was hard to set there was no sound there was nothing it was way they had to been out the

[00:26:02] fielder had to been up in the air out above the trees so if it was above the trees obviously it's

[00:26:06] thousands of feet in the air but if it wasn't that high up and it was closer only a couple hundred

[00:26:11] feet maybe I've never heard will of the whisper you never heard that before okay and was it was it

[00:26:17] was it also like we said was it dropping stuff no it was just stationary and then like I yelled

[00:26:24] for my wife and son to come look so they're staring at it for a few seconds here and there and like

[00:26:30] I'd walked off I don't remember what I did but I walked off and I came back and it had went up

[00:26:37] just a little bit and then it's almost behind where our tree was like it had moved a little bit

[00:26:43] and then it just straight up disappears now there's no leaves on the trees so we could still see it

[00:26:47] through the trees so it wasn't just hide behind leaves or anything because all the leaves here are gone

[00:26:52] but I can't explain what that was I said if it was a flare you to think the flare would have been

[00:26:56] dropping not rising to disappear right right it has a little smoke trail on that now I have

[00:27:03] so when when I first was moving to Mexico the first time I moved to Mexico I have a little bit of

[00:27:08] story of a flare as well and I don't know what this was so green color like a really like

[00:27:16] boss fluorescent green color and while I was flying I was in the airplane and in Mexico when you

[00:27:23] I know they think they're changing it now but when you arrive in Mexico you walk up to like a little

[00:27:29] kiosk almost and you press a button and if you get green you just go on ahead but if you get red

[00:27:34] they're gonna search your stuff it's random okay and so I was bringing a ton of stuff not that it

[00:27:40] was illegal but it was just would have caused a lot of problems like I would have like I probably

[00:27:45] would have been there over an hour I realize you have this show pressure luck you can't know 1111

[00:27:52] so well when I was flying I was just like okay please give me and this is like I'm like give

[00:27:58] me a sign that I'm gonna have an ease going through customs like I want to sign that it's gonna be

[00:28:06] no problems and no issues so I look up my window and like talk about timing I see this green

[00:28:15] thing falling from the sky you know and like was it at the best my best description would be

[00:28:21] it was a flare you know but we're flying at you know what I don't know how I have 30,000 feet

[00:28:26] was that what aircraft fly it's we're flying at 30,000 feet I look out and it's nighttime and there's

[00:28:30] this green thing falling from the sky and it was like gently falling it wasn't like it was like

[00:28:37] crashing to the sky like crashing down or something it was just this green burning thing from the sky

[00:28:42] it was super amazing of course I wrote that down when that happened so I was able to document

[00:28:47] that but that was something that was really really strange and when I did go through customs

[00:28:52] press the button got the green way I went but it was super super interesting and everybody it was at

[00:28:57] nighttime there's a bit of a storm out so everybody had their their blinds or their shutters closed

[00:29:02] I don't know what to call them at the course of mine I had opened it and I saw this no one else

[00:29:06] of course no one else thought just me so it was very interesting. It's great and

[00:29:11] strangely enough when I posted the picture because I kept up with my Facebook memories a couple

[00:29:15] months ago and I posted it up on the 10 foil tells Facebook page I was flying back from Oregon

[00:29:23] and we were obviously over I think what had to been like Utah and Nevada some of the flat desert area

[00:29:32] and there was three lights for sure there's three of them and they look like they're reflecting

[00:29:38] in the air like they were metallically like reflecting and they were almost stationary like they

[00:29:44] weren't moving and I took a picture from out the window of it and everyone was before when I

[00:29:49] posted years ago they're like this is just a reflection from inside I mean it's not if you were

[00:29:54] actually on the plane and looking out the window you could tell it's outside the airplane yeah but

[00:30:00] no I thought that was strange I never did figure out what the hell that was because they're just like

[00:30:04] these three reflective lights and it's broad daylight so it's like the sun reflecting off of

[00:30:10] whatever whatsoever it was had to be metallic metallic well I actually have one thing happened to

[00:30:15] that I haven't told you oh the georgia about exclusive exclusives on 10 foil tails Tom is telling

[00:30:21] a story that I haven't asked really much talk about but it did happen to me yeah I bought a telescope

[00:30:26] when I was in Germany and I knew this field that I could go to because I used to go to the light

[00:30:32] near Galileo yes Galileo Galileo and I used to go to the the was at the light pollution website

[00:30:44] and you can actually look to see where it's the darkest and I knew this place and I was like all

[00:30:48] it's in the woods it's got a field there so it was me and my wife and my baby and we went out there

[00:30:55] and I took this huge telescope with me and I was like oh yeah tonight I'm gonna see I knew that

[00:30:59] Saturn was gonna be in the sky Jupiter and I was like we'll check it out and then once I set it up

[00:31:04] over top the tree line uh when they decided to field maybe I don't know to order feeding the air

[00:31:13] there was an I just looked and all of a sudden appeared an orange ball really but it wasn't bright

[00:31:19] it wasn't shiny it looked like um like an orange like a not a shiny orange but it was like an orange

[00:31:26] ball and I said look and I showed my wife she looked at it she's like oh wow I see it and then it's

[00:31:33] maybe we have to get the mic uh mic is going to tell us go with my eyes yeah yeah and then as I'm

[00:31:39] looking at it there's a video like I've seen a guy who can call these orange balls into existence

[00:31:43] on it but isn't that similar than to what he's talking about no it's not bright and glimmery

[00:31:47] and shiny it was different it was just more like uh like a like a handball or something like a

[00:31:52] rubber handball like those orange hockey balls those hockey balls but that's so bright like more like

[00:31:58] a dollar orange okay and but it was very noticeable as you see it and then soon we're looking at it

[00:32:03] within maybe 10 seconds just disappeared I've seen that but I see now one time too cool yeah

[00:32:09] where I live and this is why I thought it was a flare and even like this thing we just saw tonight

[00:32:15] I could say possibly the flare but the way they just disappear and they're not really moving

[00:32:19] and like the thing tonight obviously there was more than just a flare because there was multiple

[00:32:25] lights in a row um but where I live there's grizzly air or space which is to the south of the

[00:32:32] spout 10 miles so and then just to a mile this way we have the little municipal airport

[00:32:39] so there's always flying stuff around here and then ironically where I thought I'd

[00:32:46] saw the flare that's why I never videotaped it or recorded it because I thought it was a flare

[00:32:49] even though they don't really test them out there's a place down the road that used to make fuses

[00:32:54] and flares and stuff I don't know if they still make flares but years ago they used to

[00:32:58] and I don't know exactly what they make these days but back when I used to ride my bike around

[00:33:03] the block when I was a kid because I've lived in this area my whole life and when I rode around

[00:33:08] the block used to have sign out there so these to make torpedoes and these to have arm guard out

[00:33:14] there because these to make TNT back in the 70s so this factory that's like two miles from my house

[00:33:20] on obviously still have all that stuff back there but I guess if I ever blow up you know someone

[00:33:23] decided to take a take a smoke break and so we took a smoke break in the wrong area

[00:33:29] extremist yeah so I don't know if they still have the the arm guard I still see the truck out

[00:33:34] there because they have all these storage buildings always have a truck out there I'm not

[00:33:37] he's an actual arm or anything but they always have this patrol guy out there so growing up as a

[00:33:43] kid always always always funny because on the side of said torpedoes I was like oh shit they

[00:33:47] make torpedoes here something you don't see very often yeah but again that was growing up in the

[00:33:54] 90s out here in the middle of nowhere Indiana so yeah yeah there's a possibility it could be but

[00:34:01] you're saying it wasn't falling already and like that that's just uh I've never seen them shoot

[00:34:05] off flares so I don't know it was in the general area where that company is like go straight

[00:34:12] out my backyard and go that way you're gonna go run into their place like two miles away

[00:34:16] but it's uh why would they be testing something off like in the nine o'clock at night they only

[00:34:22] work until four o'clock so there could be no one there they work four days a week six to four

[00:34:28] so I know someone I know someone who works down there so I know they don't typically go out

[00:34:32] and millenite and test things and so you were asking us a couple minutes ago what strange things

[00:34:37] that happened to you since we moved to Mexico um I bought um four hackers which about

[00:34:43] what is exactly ten acres of land in the uh in the rainforest there excuse me and uh

[00:34:51] I hear it we're in the Mesoamerica area that the Mayans once roamed the whole Yucatampanenso was Mayan

[00:35:01] and they have these um these amunculusists that's what I think we're describing them as

[00:35:06] there are like these little forest creatures kind of thing and they called allute they're called

[00:35:11] elucius I don't know if you've ever heard of these it's been kind of like uh we're going

[00:35:16] various trolls kind of trolls more yeah maybe like a troll but they're they're very cherub uh kind

[00:35:22] of yes kind of looking you know like children to maybe one to three feet high um children-ish looking

[00:35:32] yeah so lump and flump yeah it was kind of chubby and naked and uh they like to do things like

[00:35:39] throw rocks and uh I've experienced that I was out there to campfire with my daughter

[00:35:44] and I had a rock throwing at us and I just kind of like was like okay uh I'm getting tired

[00:35:49] let's go to bed because it's in the night um so you hear before we go too far with this

[00:35:54] sure let's uh let's so we did have a guest on and he told us how um the elucius are created

[00:36:00] because they're not really a natural there were more of a creation which is a himunculus it's created

[00:36:05] and uh so moises went into detail that it's a nine day event where you create this out of like

[00:36:12] clay um or like dirt and you imbue it with corn and blood and also your intention of what you want

[00:36:23] this creature to do uh this thing to do and it's usually it's protection protection of your land

[00:36:28] of your home along that line and on the ninth day it like disappears yeah yeah sounds like a golem

[00:36:36] that that that's what uh previous uh guess that said as well it's actually uh who had said that

[00:36:42] that was the last one which we were just on the podcast row in yesterday no no that was that

[00:36:46] was the stats watchers stats watchers watchers yes they say golem and it is kind of along that

[00:36:51] line but if a golem is usually much bigger but yeah um yes a homunculus is a golem as well like a

[00:36:56] homunculus is like the main either kind of branch off so you could have the elucius you could have

[00:37:00] the golem you could have just about any other type of uh creation that you've made but yes and so it's

[00:37:06] elementalish um yeah and it's the kind of the kind of like mischievous a little bit they're not really

[00:37:12] they're not necessarily like evil or have malintent but they're they're a little weird man because

[00:37:17] I've had the rock thrown i mean you hear these stories because i come here i don't know anything about

[00:37:21] this stuff and um so i'm if you by the way they're well even author what does it does it matter

[00:37:28] to about one kilometer off the road which is about uh almost one point out of a mile i think

[00:37:33] almost a mile off the road and i'm in the middle of nowhere i have solar panels and

[00:37:38] humps and wells and my own stuff and i'm just off grid because of what happened in 2020 and uh

[00:37:44] so i'm out there in uh so i have a small cabin it's not it's not very big it's a wood cabin it's

[00:37:50] just a place where you can see because you don't need to go inside it's not cold in the winter here so

[00:37:53] you don't have to have any heating if you need more cooling than the heating but you know i got

[00:37:57] water and there's a de-ocean is not far away and i was just swimming or whatever and so i uh

[00:38:02] the only thing you have to watch out for is mischievous so i have like these two big porch areas

[00:38:06] that i had hammocks and that i sleep in a hammock outside in the jungle so i hear all the animals

[00:38:11] i got jaguars nearby and snakes and all that stuff and um so there was an evening um the first thing

[00:38:18] to happen other than the rock being thrown uh i'm out there sleeping in a hammock and i go up

[00:38:24] wake up to go to bathroom like always in a building i these ones twice especially with my old man bladder now

[00:38:28] and i still though yeah i'm i'll be 44 in February so i you said you grew up in the 90s um i'm

[00:38:34] i'm imagining where's the cellular age i'll be 40 in February okay so okay all right yeah close enough

[00:38:40] and um yeah uh so i'm trying to go back to sleep in a hammock and on my left side of my ear

[00:38:46] i'm just about to go to sleep and i hear this whispering in my ear like someone and it's i don't

[00:38:51] understand what they're saying and i don't understand this intact or the language or anything

[00:38:56] and i just it freaked me out so much i threw like a punch to my left side because i could

[00:39:00] disport there was somebody there and of course there was nobody thank you remember tell me is

[00:39:03] a female voice yes there's a female voice the first time and uh then later uh so that was before

[00:39:10] i built the add on yeah um so then now now the second section that i've slept in my daughter

[00:39:16] sits in a hammock outside too disembodied voices just they're like the freakiest thing to run into

[00:39:21] personally i think they're one of the scariest things my my personal opinion uh i wake up uh around

[00:39:28] three o'clock and i hear like banging on it because i have like a metal roof and i hear like this

[00:39:33] it's kind of rhythmic and it's kind of not rhythmic it doesn't have a you know like a time-saving

[00:39:39] true three you're a musician three quarter or four four or anything of that nature five quarter no

[00:39:43] poly rhythms nothing like this and uh has speaking your language now make a ricon fuse it's always

[00:39:50] gets me on this technic technology stuff you got me perked up and he said poly rhythms i was like

[00:39:54] yeah you like that yeah mishuga yeah one of my favorite bands and um yeah so but it's it's

[00:40:04] it's like intermediate but when it is it's in timing but it's also not it's hard to describe

[00:40:08] it i should say so i'm like looking around and above my daughter like there's there's a glow on

[00:40:14] the metal roof from below and now there's there's no orb like right thought it was but it's not an orb

[00:40:22] and so it looks like there's like a flashlight shining it but it's like an LED it's like um

[00:40:26] white and blue light together but it's not intense but you can see it moving above her

[00:40:32] and once i go to look at where the sources it disappears so about a week after that i hear it again

[00:40:40] on my right side so she's like over in front of me to the left and this is on my right side

[00:40:44] i hear banging sideways on the there's a metal area there too that's the shower

[00:40:50] and i'm thinking this is my dog's in my dog's about side and i think like one's banging his tail on

[00:40:54] the thing but once again it's kind of arithmetic but not and i look over now instead of being above

[00:41:00] on the roof it's on this on vertically vertically vertically on the wall the same type of light

[00:41:07] and once again i go to look to see where it's confirming it disappears again so i kind of like

[00:41:11] just go well there it is again and kind of try to relax and go back to sleep and then behind me

[00:41:17] outside of the screen about say 20 yards behind me to the left i hear whispering these voices again

[00:41:24] female voice it's not English it's not Spanish i don't know what it is i guess maybe my

[00:41:31] and i just kind of look back and just ignore it and it just goes away so that's been

[00:41:38] it's what during the podcast and being with this guy because he's got a little of experience and

[00:41:43] how to deal with these things a little bit more knowledgeable than i am

[00:41:46] it because if i without you i'd actually be pretty terrified

[00:41:50] thanks for right hey and yeah it's somewhere yeah one way another something here to

[00:41:55] the else man with so meeting the weird guy and Ryan it's actually it also maybe doing the

[00:42:00] podcast has kind of brought this energy into my life too yeah exactly i think i think it's elevated

[00:42:04] like when you start messing with it delving into it it starts to increase in intensity and frequency

[00:42:11] and also the thing when we first started to do the podcast reacher file it was your following

[00:42:15] yeah i was telling it we're at my my in-laws place and i was saying oh yeah i see a lot of movement

[00:42:21] you know the shadow and i want to say shadow is in like like the actual shadow person but

[00:42:25] there's shadows that are moving or like you know like like smoky type figures moving past and

[00:42:31] everything like that i see see that a lot in this house he's telling me this for yeah and i told

[00:42:35] this and i'm like oh yeah i saw one the other day you know it's telling about it and then we're

[00:42:39] sitting there and i'm facing him he's facing me which is looking inside to the kitchen area

[00:42:45] and also he's like like this and go yeah there's like an island in the kitchen in between

[00:42:51] island and do you know there's a space in there is the wall and just like real quick like within like

[00:42:55] like you just see like this like something move across this deep figure like come across and go

[00:43:00] into the wall and i go dude i just seen what you were talking about you did you did i go he yeah

[00:43:05] he mentioned it like literally i don't know maybe ten minutes before or yeah and i was like i

[00:43:09] just seen it and i'm like my my because that's why i was a lot of time it's like

[00:43:12] added a periphery of your eye which is kind of why yeah we get some one of our taglines on our show

[00:43:18] mm-hmm those fricking spot casely gentlemen and that's what you see so you're like did i see that

[00:43:25] and you know him saying it and then me seeing it kind of reconfirmed the fact that i actually did

[00:43:31] you say periphery and i always think of the band when those new guys is episode over

[00:43:35] periphery periphery dude dude they're one of my favorite bands really yeah the black daily

[00:43:41] mer the black daily murders my favorite band but i used to be myself yeah two years ago yeah

[00:43:48] yeah the shitty thing is i never got to see them live no i missed them too i missed them did you

[00:43:53] my favorite bandage job but no one knows who they are that makes you sound the latest

[00:43:59] no i'm not a lead this is actually they opened for tool a long time ago man it tools my second

[00:44:03] favorite band but like i think and y'all are they like the ones who dress up all kind of crazy

[00:44:09] and no that's war oh god i have seen war and that was weird war was the most uh i'll say it was a

[00:44:18] fun show even though i didn't plan on being covered in blood and Hitler's semen and whatever else

[00:44:24] the hell they shot out into the crowd but that's what uh happened no y'all was like a three-piece psychedelic

[00:44:30] two metal band with songs that average like 13 minutes no blow varied check it out listen to the

[00:44:36] song called in our blood go check that out this time which you think it's very i should uh

[00:44:41] have become on the dark side of the scene podcast here we'll do that we'll do that we'll come over

[00:44:47] just hook me up like i'll come on your podcast we can talk about anything you want dude so back to

[00:44:51] the spooky stuff yeah most listeners on here like i don't want to listen to that band shit

[00:44:57] haha rise over here too go on let me learn very very hero so what about yourself uh what

[00:45:05] what kind of uh event or thing caused you or pushed you in this direction i'll add at this part out

[00:45:14] for my own episode just because i don't like beating a dead horse i've talked i've talked about

[00:45:20] another podcast but i don't like to make my own podcast about myself there it but i will um

[00:45:28] i'll leave this section in though because i've talked about it before and there's been some updates

[00:45:33] going on recently you just mentioned when you start looking into things it amplifies stuff yes

[00:45:40] i was warned last year when i started this podcast that when you choose someone randomly on

[00:45:45] Facebook looking for guests they said i worry about you and your family i said

[00:45:50] who the fuck says person like i wouldn't and they're like i was like why and they said when you start

[00:45:57] looking into things things start looking back i was like all right there mister whatever

[00:46:02] you see yeah isn't that easy when you look into the the this the this there be careful

[00:46:07] with the security yeah i was like whatever and it wasn't much longer after that my daughter started

[00:46:14] having bad dreams and at the time she's three she's now four she'll be five in February but when i

[00:46:21] started the podcast those last summer so she was three started having these bad dreams

[00:46:28] and i started doing that other podcast back in March of this year and i kind of took a hiatus

[00:46:36] from ten foil tells because we had to do you're recording like three or four episodes of bans of it

[00:46:41] so much easier i need issues that want to come on to talk then people then people but with experiences

[00:46:48] like everyone every band person like oh i come on there talk about my band art i'm going on there

[00:46:53] and we had so many we had like 50 episodes recorded by June

[00:46:58] well and we had less we were recording like three to four episodes a week

[00:47:04] and i didn't have time for this but i already i do a backlog so i already have like

[00:47:09] well episodes recorded right now for ten foil tells because i record a couple episodes a week

[00:47:14] the other podcast around a hiatus she stopped having

[00:47:19] the night issues she would sleep during night while i wasn't doing this podcast

[00:47:24] since i've started doing this podcast again she has been having sleeping issues

[00:47:31] now when we first moved into the house we just bought this house in the b-starrow 2020

[00:47:38] and the very first week that we moved in well as before we moved in i was in here painting

[00:47:45] and i had a little miniature schnauser which he was only here for about two months and we had to put

[00:47:49] him to sleep because he was oldies thirteen and okay but uh he was in the living room and i'm in

[00:47:56] the kitchen painting and the way our house is set up like the kitchens over here in the living room

[00:48:01] is behind so it's just a wall that divides it and then the living room that's a wood floor

[00:48:06] and there's a specific spot where you step and it goes right it does all the time it still does

[00:48:11] it so obviously it's a loose board on the floor or whatever yeah i heard that noise

[00:48:19] and he starts growling so i poke my head around the corner is like

[00:48:26] and he's growling at nothing there's nothing in there

[00:48:30] as i come here jacks i picked him up taking him in the kitchen with me i put him in his little

[00:48:34] i just pet tax but he had like a it's almost like a cage that he stayed in it wasn't

[00:48:38] it was open he could get in and out when he wanted to but i just put him in his bed

[00:48:41] yeah and he just kept growling the whole time he's in there he's growling i was like all right

[00:48:45] whatever is a little weird so i'm just painting what about my business

[00:48:50] and then we'd moved in i think it was maybe two weeks a week or one week two weeks i think it was

[00:48:56] about two weeks our bedrooms are at the other end of the house and our rooms here my daughters

[00:49:04] room is here then my sons rooms here we're in our room and you know the old pull down blinds our

[00:49:11] house was built 1978 or 79 so it's not super old it's the old roll up blinds we had it pulled

[00:49:17] down my wife and our land and bed we're still talking like we'd just lay down the blind just

[00:49:23] shh unwinds we start laughing as good the crap out of us we're just like oh whatever no big deal

[00:49:30] well the my daughter at the time she's only wanted about to turn two in February

[00:49:36] we have a baby monitor in there it's got a camera and obviously a mic so you hear what's going on

[00:49:42] right after that rolled up just a minute or two we hear mine

[00:49:48] right through the baby monitor very low like manly sounding mine

[00:49:57] dude that's freaking yellows we ran and got her out of that room i said uh-uh she

[00:50:04] comes slept in our bed because i was like i understand monitors could pick up other things

[00:50:12] that's too freaking coincidental for me yeah so we went got her we put her in her bed and said uh-uh

[00:50:21] few days go by my wife's changing her diaper putting on clothes or whatever

[00:50:27] on her back she notices three very long scratch marks right my god dude

[00:50:33] three is very important because that is the Trinity the Trinity

[00:50:37] I went through the house after this and I banished whatever i could i threatened it i said don't

[00:50:49] come after my child if only a pussy would come after a baby like come after me if you want to

[00:50:54] come after someone i was like you are not welcome here did all that stuff literally have not had

[00:51:00] any problems and then she started to sleep issues and i'll sleep issues her back she's coming to

[00:51:06] in our bedroom well my son who was born in June of 2021 so he's two and a half right now

[00:51:15] he's just now started to want to sleep in our bed he barely talks like he says things here and

[00:51:20] he'll say daddy or baba or whatever like my daughter was talking so well at one and two like

[00:51:28] hint for me for him only being too like what's wrong with you buddy why don't you talk

[00:51:32] because i was so used to her being he just seems like it's a little slower than what she is about

[00:51:36] development stuff but he talks last night we're laying in bed and i shit you know this is what

[00:51:47] he says oh daddy he points right above our bed ghost he does not speak well enough to know

[00:51:55] what the fuck a ghost is i don't talk about stuff like that he doesn't hear me talk i'm

[00:52:01] down on the basement i don't watch shows upstairs well that he has no idea what that is it gets right

[00:52:06] up next to his mother and he's shaking he's scared he keeps pointing seeing ghost right above our bed

[00:52:14] i went guy in a bottle got him to go to sleep or third in the morning he wakes up daddy baba

[00:52:25] i was like alright so i get out of bed to go get him one of those i'm walking to the door he goes

[00:52:29] oh daddy ghost gone now i said could you hear him say yeah i heard him

[00:52:37] now i understand kids say things they whatever so you have to and he's two

[00:52:47] i don't know where he would learn ghost that's a very unique word for him to say ghost he's never

[00:52:54] said it before i don't watch ghost stuff i don't talk about ghost stuff that's good to be do

[00:53:02] now but the creepy part about the whole ghost thing you have to go back to the original part when

[00:53:08] we first moved in after i got rid of whatever was in here that's what i thought

[00:53:13] a few months go by my daughter mysteriously has a imaginary friend again i guess that she's two

[00:53:21] at this point and her friend is named Chloe very strange name for her to come up with yes

[00:53:30] she said her friend is Chloe like and if anyone wants to doubt what i'm saying i have video

[00:53:34] i'll gladly show you videos of my two year old talking and playing sentences whenever i

[00:53:39] say she's a gifted child i said she is the genius baby she is my

[00:53:44] progesee yeah well like she's my little genius baby she's always been smart always been

[00:53:49] exhaling she's talked she's been poddy trained before she's like just super smart child

[00:53:55] and she had this imaginary friend named Chloe well i'm already being superstitious anyways because

[00:54:02] this shit i look out into interested in and stuff like that i was like oh really

[00:54:09] was she looked like well she's purple i was like oh she's purple yeah that's funny

[00:54:17] yeah that's because she's dead that's what i that's what i was thinking like purple because they're dead

[00:54:22] this exactly what i was like how would a two year old know it i was like what do you mean she's

[00:54:26] like well she's a ghost i said Chloe is not welcome in my house Chloe needs to leave

[00:54:33] like there is no Chloe anymore yeah yes though i said Chloe's not allowed to be here anymore

[00:54:40] she still talked about it she told my mom that Chloe pushed her off the bed one time

[00:54:46] and i was actually talking my mom about all this stuff today she thinks by me doing this podcast

[00:54:52] i'm bringing in these demonic spirits so it's like well like i don't know if that's true but at this

[00:54:57] point i don't really know and basically i asked my daughter to draw me what she sees because she's

[00:55:09] been saying she's been having nightmares so the picture she drew today now this is where

[00:55:19] we're always full of shit now i swear on everything last night in the middle of all this going on

[00:55:23] i had a dream about basically asking my daughter to draw me what she was seeing yeah so that's why

[00:55:32] i woke up and had her do it because i dreamed this perfect what she drew is similar to my dream

[00:55:39] but it wasn't the same color my colors what she drew was like a bluish color what she picked today

[00:55:45] was red and i drew what i thought she'd drawn for me it's like almost like a purpley color

[00:55:53] because again i tried to draw what she described Chloe as okay and i showed her that but in my dream

[00:56:02] she told me its name was rimmy and then weird name i said this is again a dream she doesn't know

[00:56:08] a rimmy or anything like that i like the very strange at her friend the demon was named rimmy so i

[00:56:13] got online and tried to find like there's a demonic name that's i was actually just about to fall

[00:56:18] myself on like okay there is a japanese anime cartoon with a demon named rimmy that is a

[00:56:25] supposedly i think it was said it was a sleep paralysis demon from some japanese cartoon or

[00:56:32] comic or something like that i don't know i don't watch that stuff so i have no idea but

[00:56:38] i didn't find anything besides some actual like french guy named rimmy there was like a demon

[00:56:43] ologist and some stuff like i don't know so the name i don't know with the verifies but in my dream

[00:56:47] i remembered saying that that's not really the demon or the really the name because a demon wouldn't tell

[00:56:52] you its real name so i was just a weird dream that i had and then whatever she drew it had similar

[00:57:02] like dark hair but everything on it was red but she told me what she dreamed she said it's a brown

[00:57:07] monster with red glowing eyes but that's why she can't sleep in her bedroom at night because she's

[00:57:12] waking up and saying she's having nightmares because the monsters are always trying to cover her eyes

[00:57:16] that's why they're trying to cover your eyes and she's drew a little like a potato i was

[00:57:19] like they tried to cover your eyes with a potato she said no it's a sponge just like

[00:57:24] why would monsters be covering your eyes with a sponge again she's four she'll be five in

[00:57:29] February so at this point she already talks about some stuff but no she now she told me that

[00:57:35] Chloe wasn't purple Chloe was red i was like well two years ago she said she was purple because she

[00:57:41] was dead she was ghost my wife asked her to my wife asked her not where's Chloe at she's like

[00:57:47] she's not here anymore so where she goes she's like she's on the other side

[00:57:53] and she's like what are you talking about other side she's like the other side of town

[00:57:58] we're like oh okay she's like well no not not town she's like the other side of the whole world

[00:58:02] you know she's whoa and my wife looked back at me i was like

[00:58:06] just stop i don't want to ask her more questions i'm too paranoid at this point just stop

[00:58:14] so have you ever considered getting your house cleansed maybe well that's what i've been thinking

[00:58:19] like i don't know if anyone and this is weird for me to talk about it because like i said i'm

[00:58:24] always skeptical on everything and

[00:58:31] i feel like when i went through the house again today after like they went to school my wife

[00:58:34] went to work took my two-year-old to daycare and i had to go to work before i left to go to work

[00:58:40] i went through every looking crane in this house and i did the same thing i did three years ago and

[00:58:44] like told it's not welcome here i use Jesus Christ name like i'm not even religious but i

[00:58:51] all throw out whatever i can try and get rid of this spirit i said any type of negative energy

[00:58:59] negative spirit demonic presence anything evil and unholy is not welcome here and you're not allowed

[00:59:05] to be here exactly so does that work i have no ideas or actions?

[00:59:11] would that be the best way to go about it well it's one of the ways to go about it and

[00:59:15] not to believe that you need to believe it though that that's the key that that is like the

[00:59:21] uh um let's see but almost a placebo type effect you have to believe it works because then

[00:59:27] you give it that much more power that much more strength yeah and that's that's where i struggle

[00:59:32] because i try not to even believe there's anything here because i feel like if i believe it

[00:59:36] i'm giving it power you are no and and that is true you are but when you're just if you're

[00:59:43] ignoring it though but in the right and if you're if your children see it you know they're already

[00:59:48] giving it that power so you know denying your children like saying there's nothing here

[00:59:55] when there actually is this kind of like you know double wow me yeah you're kind of like denying

[01:00:00] you know saying you're you're not telling me the truth even though you you are kind of believing them

[01:00:05] you you yeah as i always talk it up to like they were like my daughter her imaginary friend is like

[01:00:12] well it's it's creepy but as she's two i was like she watches blueie blueie's best friend is named

[01:00:19] Chloe so i figured that's where she come up with the name mm-hmm like i always looked for the rational

[01:00:23] reasons as to why of course yes and that's like well Chloe's a dog but she's not purple but whatever and

[01:00:32] she told my mom should purple hair she told me today that she was red i was like will you

[01:00:37] tell this before she was purple because she was dead this she was a ghost yeah i was like i remember

[01:00:42] that specific way like you might not remember two years ago like but i didn't forget that shit

[01:00:47] that's one of those things that's gonna make you like yeah when you're in your death bed you're

[01:00:51] gonna be like oh my god she said it was purple and dead well this afternoon i have a i have two

[01:00:57] dollars i have a old boxer that i didn't again she's old so we know how much longer she's got like

[01:01:01] hip displacement at this point and then i have a a dermischepper that just turned three she's in all

[01:01:07] white germinchepper i tried to send the shepherd into my daughter's room because it seems for whatever

[01:01:11] reason her bedroom is always cold and for some reason in a very corner of the house in the winter time

[01:01:21] there'd be water that would come from the ceiling it wasn't leaking it was like moisture would just

[01:01:25] form up in the corner could figure out why well the way her house is the well is directly out of her

[01:01:32] window goes right under these under into the crawl space of her section because for some reason

[01:01:36] half this house is a basement like i'm in the basement next to me over here is the crawl space where

[01:01:41] the bedrooms and everything are the well-tank and everything is right under her room they claim water

[01:01:47] is a source of energy yes and it's right under her bedroom so i'm like shit like i think her room

[01:01:57] is the center of this so i sent the dog into her room to see if the dog had any like reaction

[01:02:02] hit went in it went whoop right back out and instantly my every part of my i'm getting

[01:02:07] again right now every part of my body got goosebumps like i just felt it as i tried to go in the

[01:02:14] doorway like soon as the dog came out i got goosebumps i have them right now just talking

[01:02:16] about to creep me the freak out because the dog did not want to go in there whoa and i figured

[01:02:23] animals really sense that type of stuff but she goes in there she plays with toys in the dog

[01:02:28] going there lay beside her room so like this one instance when i wanted the dog to go in there

[01:02:32] maybe she thought she was in trouble because i'm trying to push her into a room so she didn't want

[01:02:35] to go in there he's a question that was your daughter in the room no she was never going home with me

[01:02:40] okay so your dog is going and sitting with your daughter to protect her you know to be with

[01:02:45] their to protect her kind of things sit there and then you're pushing the dog in for no reason

[01:02:48] there's nothing to protect at that point so it's like probably i don't want to be in there

[01:02:52] now for the very reason why the dog is very very protective of the two kids

[01:02:57] so but i never the dog doesn't ever seem to be weirded out like if i come down the basement she'll

[01:03:02] follow me down here if i leave the door open like she just and being a German Shepherd she's

[01:03:06] naturally going to be protective anyways yeah and now if the kids are in their bedroom it's

[01:03:11] playing she'll lay in the hallway right in front of their doors because i guess that there's my

[01:03:15] door the other her door and then my son's door like all three and i built bedrooms down here in

[01:03:20] the basement for the older kids so they live in the basement which i figured they'd think it was

[01:03:25] creepy they don't i've ever talked about anything strange down here it just seems all resonate up in

[01:03:31] my daughter's bedroom well interesting interesting especially over top of the the well and that

[01:03:37] and that ties into if if you don't mind you continue moving on i can tell you a story too

[01:03:42] yeah go ahead okay so with the house that i built a house i'm not saying like i constructed it but

[01:03:49] I did a lot of work within that house um and we had a what's called a sump pump um what that is

[01:03:54] is there's like a drainage pit um around the house and you put like this weeping towel this

[01:03:59] porous pipe all around the house to collect any standing water or you know if there's a high water

[01:04:04] table it's going to collect that water and pump it out and pump it down into a storm drain now

[01:04:09] i could always hear running like i could always hear water coming into the house so we're talking

[01:04:13] floor flowing water and this house had a i tied in with a little bit of a poultry guise activity due

[01:04:20] to my my ex at that time because she she definitely had some some demons with her now what was going on

[01:04:28] was in this house um it started in the middle of the night and we used to watch like these ghost

[01:04:34] hunters shows all the time and so what had started was the light would start going on and off

[01:04:41] on the ceiling light which was also a ceiling fan would go and change an intensity and it did

[01:04:46] have a dimmer on it like it would go you could change the intensity to go on and off

[01:04:50] but this would start only and i i don't want me on the times i was starting it would start at

[01:04:56] least like one or two in the morning and go to about three or four in the morning and it would go on

[01:05:01] for maybe sometimes 10 15 minutes sometimes an hour um and this went on for almost a year

[01:05:10] i'd say closer well we'll say closer to six months but the light would go on and off an intensity

[01:05:15] the fan would increase and decrease and it would just be like this to the point that i'm not getting

[01:05:21] in a sleep at night and i'm going almost insane like this this is what is going on now so that was

[01:05:30] going on now my my her daughter became extremely extremely ill with something um you know we'd take

[01:05:38] her to doctors and they're like no now there's nothing wrong with running all these tests this one

[01:05:43] doctor like started yelling at her and stop faking you're faking like this is what the doctor

[01:05:48] is yelling at her that's awesome um when i was in this house and i remember while she was sick i was

[01:05:55] i was sitting in the office and up in front of me was this black black smoke and it was like moving

[01:06:04] all around it was kind of like undulating or i don't just just changing shape and constantly

[01:06:09] and i i said kind of more to myself but like you know get out of here you don't belong good what

[01:06:16] you did you know and at that time i didn't know much of anything but i was just like i need to tell

[01:06:21] it to get out and leave my my wife's daughter my well ex-wife her daughter alone and and you're

[01:06:27] not welcome here you need to get out and it was about three to four days later she was fine after

[01:06:34] that and she was sick for about a month month and a half um so that was that one experience

[01:06:39] like this is all compounding um then my ex she had her her friend come over her friends mom is a

[01:06:46] medium and it kind of passed down through the lineage to her she has some gifts and you know we

[01:06:53] set up set her up a um a bed in the basement you know and i'd finished the basement it was all ready

[01:07:00] and i woke up in the morning and she's sleeping upstairs on the couch and like you know oh you

[01:07:06] didn't like the basement and she she didn't tell me but she's like no no i just want to sleep upstairs

[01:07:11] and she eventually told my ex she's like yeah there was just some old lady in your basement

[01:07:16] there's a woman in your basement i saw um another experience that happened in that house was

[01:07:22] my ex when she was running on the treadmill uh the breaker flipped so okay i guess power surges

[01:07:29] you know it's from the treadmill draws a lot the breaker flipped and she's like okay so she started

[01:07:34] walking to the mechanic room where the breaker box was and it flipped back on it turned back on by

[01:07:40] itself now flipping off okay it happens turning back on that that cannot happen no it doesn't happen

[01:07:47] um and then another experience and this is actually right around the same time when her

[01:07:53] her friend was um saying that she wouldn't sleep in the basement that was i think it was like

[01:07:57] the same weekend they had went out for the night and i was at home by myself and i wasn't feeling well

[01:08:04] i also i started getting really sick and so i went and that's my thing if if i don't feel well

[01:08:09] i go into the shower i always feel comfort in the shower hot water pouring on

[01:08:13] for anything i always that's my thing so i went into shower and when it came out we have we have a

[01:08:18] separate tub outside like uh in the bathroom but it's it's separate from the shower both taps were on

[01:08:24] and it was just pouring water out wow um at that point i was i was a little terrified at that point

[01:08:29] like turret evolve like okay uh yeah i just gonna go to bed and and not sleep uh i don't remember

[01:08:35] any of this try not to remember any of this but yeah the process for running out be paired on

[01:08:39] they're gonna flood me out while i'm sleeping right yeah someone hits that drain or plugs the

[01:08:44] overflow yeah what the hell is going to go but that was that was a creepy experience that's i didn't

[01:08:51] talk about that one much at all you know how you told me some of it but yeah i don't remember the water

[01:08:54] part okay yeah there's i think we've all experienced like weird things like and i've mentioned this

[01:09:03] a few times just a few weeks ago well it's probably been about two months ago now i was walking

[01:09:09] to go to the bathroom and i swear i heard my oldest daughters say hey dad as i walked past her

[01:09:14] cuz she's in the kitchen doing homework and i turned around like just looked at her and she's

[01:09:20] doing homework i was like what and she looks up she's like stairs at me i was like she not just say

[01:09:26] hey dad she's like no the preteen eye roller whatever i'm like yeah okay i was just what i'm

[01:09:35] about my business but i was like i swear i heard her say hey dad and her voice everything like

[01:09:41] so it's like is that paranormal or is that just me having brain problems at this phrase

[01:09:46] i've heard things like this is a common thing like yeah like i've heard it too where i swear

[01:09:52] someone said someone said in my name or or or my wife you know she called me and i'm like yeah what

[01:09:57] she's like i didn't say anything i'm like no no you you called me you know like you

[01:10:01] and and it's vice versa you know she's had you know she had someone when you're talking about

[01:10:05] disembodied voices she had someone whispering in her ear when we're in the the last house in

[01:10:09] canada before we moved here someone would wake her up and whisper in her ear say her name say our

[01:10:13] daughter's name and uh yeah whispering in her ear and she's like i don't know like

[01:10:21] for me when it comes to stuff like this and i've always been trying to look for rational

[01:10:26] explanations or write it off as something that i can explain but there's certain things that

[01:10:30] i just cannot explain and i guess if you want to hear why i actually do the podcast i can actually

[01:10:38] bust out the real story of uh the biggest encounter that i had that i've talked about it a few

[01:10:44] times on other stuff and i wrote a book kind of influenced by it and everything else but

[01:10:49] yeah i'll uh book your book

[01:10:53] it's like your book yes the book is called shadows of cedarville

[01:10:58] it's if you get it from like Barnes and Noble or Wal-Mart's book store or whatever you can order it

[01:11:04] it's off-centered you see how it's off-centered it drives me crazy you get it from amazon it's

[01:11:10] centered i don't understand why everywhere else but amazon is off-centered so that drives me insane

[01:11:15] that's a dream uh 80-D yeah but basically uh oh cd yeah i think it's a musician thing

[01:11:28] uncertain things you have to be 100% perfect when you're playing music and in time and everything

[01:11:34] else so everything to me i've always had to make sure it's perfect depends on what you're playing

[01:11:39] but sure yeah i got you i suck at keeping time as a vocalist i don't play anything else so

[01:11:46] you're playing like seven four stuff i'm like all right what i was gonna do here you got to get

[01:11:50] your own timing and then yes oh yeah that's hard but anyways um so this happened back in 2007

[01:11:56] and for 15 years i never talked about it and then for some strange reason

[01:12:01] it was the winner of not this past winner it was like the winner before so 2021 and 2022

[01:12:11] one of my co-workers he'd originally been in the Air Force i think it was and he was in Alaska

[01:12:18] and i have a little keychains got like a little sass watch on it so him being from Alaska is

[01:12:24] like so you ever see a big footwear up there and he didn't really say much about it and for whatever

[01:12:30] reason i just felt really compelled to tell him about what happened i was like well he's either

[01:12:35] gonna think i'm crazy or he's gonna talk to me about it after i told him my what i just told you

[01:12:40] guys he just sat there in silence like well he thinks i'm a fucking gunna tick and uh but i felt

[01:12:46] better about talking about it like i felt like just telling a complete stranger pretty much the

[01:12:54] i felt a little bit better about it and during beast era 2020 we uh didn't have a whole lot we could do

[01:13:06] yeah good do any of that stuff so i'd had a long drive for work where i was working i was like an hour

[01:13:14] and a half away so i was kind of depressed about the whole music thing so i started checking out

[01:13:19] podcasts and i was always about conspiracy stuff so that's why like you know what i want to name

[01:13:24] a podcast i'm gonna talk about alien stuff i want to talk about conspiracy that i want to talk

[01:13:30] about how they're not letting us do anything because of this crazy beast stuff going on and like

[01:13:36] so i was like i tried to think of an aim of like oh ten foil tells you where ten foil hat people

[01:13:40] like me to talk about stuff like this so i had all those cool ideas i was like i bet no one's

[01:13:44] talking about this and i started looking for podcasts like oh shit there's something

[01:13:48] talking about it yeah so i've had the name for a while i never did anything with it so i just

[01:13:54] kind of sat on and then after i discovered a couple different podcasts and i listened to them

[01:14:03] for a while the interviewed people was like that's uh it wasn't what i wanted to sit off to do

[01:14:08] like again i wanted to make this podcast more like to talk about conspiracies and alien stuff like

[01:14:14] that but it ended up turning into what it is they were the people interviewing for experiences because

[01:14:20] i felt better about talking about it so i thought maybe i could give a platform for other people

[01:14:26] to share their stuff so they could feel better too i was like and selfishly it makes me feel better

[01:14:32] when i hear other people have had these same types of experience because it's like reaffirms to

[01:14:35] myself that i'm not insane right so it makes complete nonsense so that's uh that's why i do what i do

[01:14:43] and i've gotten people to give me a bunch of crap because of the name because they say i'm making fun

[01:14:47] of people as like you've literally never listened to my podcast yeah i have not made fun of anyone

[01:14:52] i was like the whole tent foil thing was derived from me making fun of my own self for being a

[01:14:57] tent foil hat wear like it's kind of a pun it's not making fun of people it's like literally just saying

[01:15:05] well you you're taking you're taking the moniker of like everybody calls you oh you're a

[01:15:09] tent foil you know where's the tent foil hats and well you're like sure yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna own it

[01:15:17] it's not necessarily conspiracy theories but it's conspiracy truths yeah i've tried to explain

[01:15:22] that to people too like i'm not gonna air anything like i've had some episodes in the past

[01:15:29] the nowadays like when i first started out i didn't know a whole lot about what we were doing

[01:15:34] i'm starting to be more specific when i want to there's certain topics and i'm gonna be more

[01:15:40] leaning into cover than other ones because sometimes i've had people on there and i've had

[01:15:43] people email me oh that person's full of crap this and that and why don't you background check

[01:15:48] this person and i looked up the person after the fact and they're yeah so i have to be more

[01:15:54] i guess safe about who i bring on just because my thing is i'm doing a pod tattoo it's hard to

[01:16:01] vet every single per i'm not gonna pay people to do a background check on someone the ones to come

[01:16:05] on there and talk to me they saw big foot like exactly like but for whatever reason people are

[01:16:10] always gonna hate on something that you do it means that means you're doing something right yeah my

[01:16:16] first piece i hate on the other day oh my first big comment so proud of it so hilarious i love

[01:16:21] his hate comments yeah i like it my first hate comment so we go this guy's too animated he moves

[01:16:25] his head all the time and no say hate comment just uh and i'm like i mean some don't some right

[01:16:30] because if that's someone you know that's that's what it is i got one the other day that even though

[01:16:37] they must not listen but so they didn't even talk about experience or they just circled jerked

[01:16:41] each other the whole time i was like you didn't listen to like after the first 10 minutes because he's

[01:16:46] literally talked about all the stuff that he's experienced with whatever hey that that means he

[01:16:52] was listening hey he listened for 10 minutes yeah it's like good enough man

[01:16:58] but now that's um that's a fantastic tale i haven't do have a question so how do you think the

[01:17:05] headless armless corpse torso walking thing was related to the the dog man like was there

[01:17:14] was it the same thing or was it two separate things this is what i get hung up on it at basically

[01:17:22] the dog was not nearly as big as whatever was walking whatever was walking was so much taller

[01:17:27] and that's legs were super thick like it had chunky legs and the dog had normal proportionate

[01:17:35] for its size like if my dreamers she stays up she's only gonna come up to about right here on me

[01:17:40] this thing was like i said i'm six foot three so it's a very big dog i'm not someone

[01:17:48] that could have been a wolf i mean maybe they're like oh you saw a black bear well

[01:17:53] i live in indiana we don't have black bear but we also don't have a bright walking canines either so

[01:17:59] i mean there's that yeah differences i know what a bear looks like and bears don't have pointy

[01:18:06] ears they don't have big bushy tails they don't have we also know what dogs look like and you also

[01:18:13] know that dogs don't stand up like that i have their arms hang down to the side yeah

[01:18:17] what i've wrote it off as for fifteen years this is literally where i've always tried to

[01:18:22] rationalize it no supernatural elements to it i said this was a dog that was screwing around with

[01:18:27] this mouse the mouse was traumatized because this dog was licking it playing with it whatever it

[01:18:33] someone must have hit this dog and broke its front legs so when we first drove up the dog flopped

[01:18:39] around flailing around because it can't use its front legs because they're broken so that explains

[01:18:44] why it's what it stood up it's off to its sides because it broke its legs or whatever yeah

[01:18:51] that all sure that's that's what it is that's what happened that's why the dog looked at me it's

[01:18:54] white stood up that's the logical explanation and that's what i accepted for fifteen years because

[01:18:59] that's what makes sense but what does not make sense is how big and thick the first thing

[01:19:05] that was walking in the road was i cannot say it was the dog as much as i want to because

[01:19:10] it was so much taller in the legs are so much thicker and was that covered with hair as well i

[01:19:16] think you said it was it wasn't seen anything it was literally just solid black like there was no

[01:19:22] like my head lights were right on it as it was flopping around moving glitchily in the center of

[01:19:27] the road and people have lately it said well it was like a shadow man i mean it didn't have

[01:19:35] a head or arms and it was a shadow man it's like a shadow man bigfoot because it's about the size of

[01:19:40] yeah i was saying maybe it was like a bigfoot manifesting into this reality like that's how it

[01:19:45] was first coming through i've i've had two different people have told me that the first thing i saw

[01:19:51] was a sask watch and it probably got done beating the crap out of a dog man and then someone else

[01:19:57] it said that maybe they were entangent together like because sometimes you see bigfoot you also see

[01:20:02] sask watch very some not but you see dog yeah or maybe it was morphing between one and to the other

[01:20:09] like in between the two stages someone on reddit said that i was abducted we were both abducted by aliens

[01:20:15] and these were just implanted memories put in our brains because we couldn't process what else was

[01:20:19] going on i was like well we didn't weren't missing any time but like i sound like a the sand down

[01:20:24] clown type stuff where they saw this clown thing but i don't i'm not gonna say it's aliens because

[01:20:33] i don't think it was that is it is it an interdimensional being manifesting into our world sure

[01:20:42] maybe i don't know like i said at the end of the day i'll never know and i've never experienced

[01:20:46] anything like that again i was i've lived here my whole life yeah i drive by this place every day

[01:20:52] almost because right down the road never experienced it again i'm never seeing anything again

[01:20:59] i but that's incredible i've never seen anything like that two things you know like the dogman kind

[01:21:04] of thing is almost like it's definitely like you saw a different sort of dog man you know it reminds me

[01:21:12] a bit of betina's uh betina mosses version of a dog man not like hers look differently um but it was

[01:21:19] they had like blue eyes and more people looking yeah yeah yeah but the way it acted it kind of seems

[01:21:26] more like not like this vicious dogman that like matt was talking about uh and it is that it's

[01:21:34] larger his had yellow eyes though too um but uh oh yeah i know it was immensely i would

[01:21:41] it immensely larger but that that's yeah i i think it was more along that line like a but i have no

[01:21:48] idea and that headless armless corpse thing that was walking that like not only did you see that you got

[01:21:55] to see like this germany shepherd type dog man so interesting it's like something that's not

[01:22:00] i'm the why but it reminds me of something like from that game silent hill oh yeah from back in the

[01:22:04] day yeah like there's like things i mean i've explained it the twitchy nurse things yeah thank you

[01:22:11] yeah i know it's not even a big game guy either i'm i don't really play games i'd ever really play

[01:22:15] silent hill by like the movie so i remember the movie part of it crazy but uh that was uh that

[01:22:21] i was like crazy i crazy tale dude i don't even wrote a book you had to get it out

[01:22:29] well the book is basically like the first chapter is literally what i told you guys and

[01:22:35] it's about a guy that became like i said it's heavily influenced for myself but it's a fictional

[01:22:40] model so like so the first instance is this guy he experienced the basal of what i experienced

[01:22:46] and he starts a podcast and looks into this stuff and then he tries to figure out what's going on

[01:22:51] and then basically it goes into like a lot of dogman lore cool and then a lot of stuff so like

[01:22:57] the first chapter the first two or three chapters are actually more or less stuff that i do

[01:23:02] and then the rest of it just became like a fictionalized psychological horror story but i stick to it

[01:23:08] i love it it's uh they came out in September to be honest i wrote it in like four days it's

[01:23:15] only like a hundred and fifty pages but he's i used uh if i wasn't if i didn't actually experience it

[01:23:24] and if i didn't like use part of my own podcasting like from interviews and listening to other i couldn't

[01:23:31] have built the story so quickly but to be honest i wrote the book because someone read it pissed me off

[01:23:37] i i'd i'd pasted what had happened i'd shared it on one of the forums on there one of the subreddits

[01:23:45] on there and someone started critiquing how i wrote i was like i'm literally talking about my

[01:23:50] encounter another why can i don't understand why i didn't we didn't give a very good description

[01:23:54] of what the first thing was like why didn't you say what more details i told you literally what the

[01:23:58] fuck it happened i just saw a black sheet so i was like and they're like well i was like you're

[01:24:04] gonna critique me that's not a novelist i don't write i was like i'm not a writer you're sure you

[01:24:08] conjugated that irregular verb correctly go fuck yourself dude so i said you know what screw it

[01:24:16] i have a book that came out prior to this i basically took the transcripts from some of my other

[01:24:20] episodes because i thought it was cool because you can get on amazon if you sign it and you can

[01:24:24] get your own books made i made an own book for myself so i have ten foil tell which is basically

[01:24:29] 14 i think transcripts they had i just put them in took the transcripts i paced them over there

[01:24:36] and i have like a book called ten foil tell which is basically some of the interviews that i'd done

[01:24:39] well i thought that was cool but i i had a book like yeah it sold like 14 copies and it's only

[01:24:44] for people that i knew around here that ordered one and when i wrote this book i was like well

[01:24:50] fuck that guy or girl or whatever it was i don't know i read it person i was like i'm

[01:24:54] going to show you i'm gonna write a book now so this is my first tip at writing the book and i'll

[01:24:58] probably never write another book but it sold about 150 copies so i guess it's i don't know

[01:25:05] i guess people want to read it so that i guess that's cool that is awesome in your face read it person

[01:25:12] yes thank you read it person repissing me off yeah and give you that extra push to

[01:25:17] sell 150 copies of your first second book no i'm a hyper fixator my wife says because literally

[01:25:24] got home on a Friday i started writing and i wrote all weekend i finished it on a Monday as like

[01:25:30] i'm not gonna stop i wrote it all on my phone like i was writing in the notes of my iPhone and

[01:25:33] then i'd put email sections to myself i had to put it all together that is awesome that is awesome

[01:25:39] well congratulations on that one thank you like i said it's um

[01:25:45] my first and probably only real written book down like i've never got to write another one

[01:25:50] you never know man you never know yeah but as far as the dog thing the shadow thing or whatever

[01:25:58] that all it was i don't think however really no but that's what i do what i do because clearly

[01:26:06] someone else had to have seen some crazy stuff too exactly exactly and that's one thing we found

[01:26:11] we just found so many people with so many stories you know like like yeah we're booked out

[01:26:16] pretty far too it's it's it's crazy you know and people are now contacting us and wanting to come on

[01:26:21] and it's so many stories so many so many experience i don't want to say stories because i know we

[01:26:27] we say that i do it's just natural to call a story but it's experiences you know so many experience

[01:26:32] trying to catch myself doing to say an experience because i've gotten lectured by insulting people

[01:26:37] for calling their stuff stories yes yes exactly exactly i don't and i understand but i also it's just

[01:26:44] natural natural for us to say stories you know myself like let me tell you a story and then i tell

[01:26:51] them some of my experiences it's a natural yeah now i i never really came out publicly with it like

[01:26:58] i told some other podcasts last year because strangely enough they have uh there's a fair like

[01:27:08] our fairgrounds is down there so they had a paranormal convention so they had this other podcast

[01:27:13] out there so last Halloween time i was went on their podcasts and i told them about what happened

[01:27:18] because i was like well ironically right on the same road i had my experience but that was the time

[01:27:23] I've only really said it publicly and then this past spring knows Pat this summer i think

[01:27:30] i got a message from someone that said there was another person in my area that was on a different

[01:27:35] podcast that had a dogman encounter in the same place as mine i was like so i found the episode

[01:27:43] or listened to it was like oh shit i know exactly where this guy's talking about but this happened

[01:27:47] in 1990 wow so i kind of used a little bit of variation from his own his own thing

[01:27:53] yeah book but so i had to interesting 17 years so 1992-17 years yeah and your experience was 17

[01:28:03] years ago which means soon that dogman will pop up he's like a locust dogman 17 every 17 years

[01:28:09] is like it or the thing from a jeepers creepers exactly now i have a question though when they

[01:28:18] the the experience of that dogman well how was it any similar to what you saw like when

[01:28:24] you don't need to go back and listen to the episode i reached out to the podcast to see if

[01:28:29] that guy i was like you don't have to tell me his information but can you reach out to him and

[01:28:33] have him contact me because we literally live in the same town yeah exactly they claim they don't

[01:28:39] keep any records of their previous guest now i was like okay but they also have like 500 something

[01:28:47] episodes that they've done so so that's hard to keep track of yeah what what podcast was that one

[01:28:53] the kind of dogman encounters radio oh okay yeah i've heard the name but he asked me if I wanted to

[01:29:01] come on his show so i was like yeah and come on there so i was one of the first real times i'd

[01:29:06] actually gone on anything to actually talk about it that was more or less dogman related yeah

[01:29:13] and i think i've heard that story before the one you were telling yeah i don't remember where i've

[01:29:19] heard it but i do remember because once you started you were talking to paper mill about the

[01:29:24] time punching leaving early yeah and i'm thinking where did i hear this and i was thinking

[01:29:29] if you i was just on saskwatch chronicles there it is yeah i do listen to that show religiously so

[01:29:37] yeah that was one of the first ones that i had heard too it's funny because you guys just had

[01:29:41] Harley's episode come out yeah i interviewed Harley in recorded before he went on saskwatch

[01:29:47] chronicles and they put me in Harley on saskwatch chronicles together and i'd recorded Harley before he

[01:29:51] went on anyone else's podcast so i had to hurry up and release my episode because his wasn't

[01:29:56] so it's come out until January this is just how i have it booked out i was like well yeah

[01:30:00] been on some other podcasts i heard him release mine like two weeks ago just so i wasn't getting

[01:30:04] left in the dust i know exactly what you're talking about yeah you're kind of like oh crap everybody

[01:30:08] else is i got i got a drop mine it's like the new person when you get there you have to kind of

[01:30:12] like this is a crazy new story i think out there yeah i know he he kind of died to me and we're just

[01:30:18] yeah he's we've been there he's actually very friendly yeah talking a lot actually

[01:30:23] yeah i um he seems like a good guy my guys i put his audio on there and everything and the first

[01:30:30] thing i thought about i heard it was like it reminds me of a brachiest source from Jurassic Park

[01:30:34] like that yeah that noise or whatever so yes i know that noise yeah it was it was pretty cool

[01:30:41] it was pretty cool the audio yeah yeah yeah no but that was the i thought it was ironic that when i

[01:30:48] got on Sasquatch Chronicles and i didn't even wanting to mention the show already on there he said

[01:30:55] it at the end but like i don't want people going on there thinking i'm just on there to

[01:30:57] promote my own show just Sasquatch Chronicles was the first actual show that i started listening to

[01:31:02] those interviewing people so talking about west or whatever like it's kind of cool to just talk

[01:31:07] to him some yeah yeah yeah i don't know what those i don't know if it did just come out recently

[01:31:13] it came out like a month ago okay so i was like i've heard now and you were together with with um

[01:31:22] hardly on the same episode yeah hardly's episodes on the same Sasquatch Chronicles episode but

[01:31:28] i recorded hardly before either one of us went on Sasquatch Chronicles that's so weird i would

[01:31:33] think i would think of no no no no they didn't like you didn't share the same episode

[01:31:37] your episode was different from Harley's right you're just it was on the same episodes like

[01:31:40] episode one thousand and two or hardly set the encounter was first and then my encounter was second

[01:31:48] so that's how no we were both on the same page at this remember hearing that and i was you

[01:31:53] were talking about the got the thing in the middle of the road and i was like this is ringing a

[01:31:57] bell somehow but you don't want to be because you hear so many podcasts sometimes even it's like

[01:32:01] now i'm hurt this let us also i don't listen to a whole lot of podcasts anymore like i didn't

[01:32:06] listen to a whole lot in the first part but now that i'm doing one it's i'm trying not to listen

[01:32:11] to other ones and i recently had a guy that i was the first one he came to for a dog man thing

[01:32:18] then he was just on the confessionals like a couple weeks ago i was like it feels like he'd

[01:32:22] start making your people are making the rounds i'm like it kind of sucks if i'm going to hold

[01:32:27] these episodes back to keep on a schedule because they're going to go on someone else's show

[01:32:31] get the stuff out first and it's just like it's always competing totally understand i totally

[01:32:37] understand that yeah um but now i you guys had that mad at us so i actually reached out to him i

[01:32:44] have it ever back for i mean like he said he didn't he was being picky about who shows he was

[01:32:48] going on too so it's like i mean whatever yeah happens so if you want him i can uh i can

[01:32:58] like put in a word but what would be because me and matt we talk every other day pretty much so

[01:33:04] yeah like i said i i don't big people they hey you want to come on my show they don't want to

[01:33:08] like that's fine yeah hey i can't i can't not that yeah like i said i uh i'm here for anyone

[01:33:15] the ones to come on the show they don't want to come on the show that's cool with me too yeah i don't

[01:33:20] do a whole lot of promoting i don't do a whole lot of much of anything like it's all grassroots word

[01:33:24] of mouth so that's fantastic i i'm happy with what i have i mean so i don't want to like brag or whatever

[01:33:34] but it's i think it's decent enough for what it is like for not having any sort of emotion it's

[01:33:39] cool with me i'm the i'm on the ban mindset though like

[01:33:45] bands i used to promote all the time i promote all the time now i don't do that like i'm doing

[01:33:48] the complete opposite and i feel like i'm getting more reaction by not promoting it than when

[01:33:53] i did when i was promoting it all the time so interesting interesting yeah and like we're we're

[01:33:58] we're not paid for any promotions or stuff like that we just you know show it up on facebook and

[01:34:04] on reddit and that's what we do and and i'm i'm quite happy with our with our progress as both

[01:34:11] yeah we're not we're grinded we're grinded into a private yeah so i see you guys you're

[01:34:18] seem like you started a while back in the summertime uh april end of april yeah and

[01:34:24] i feel like you guys have gotten grown pretty well thank you yeah thanks yeah i appreciate that it's

[01:34:31] it i i feel like i i said a goal for us it was a three-year goal and i i thought it was a very

[01:34:38] realistic goal to yeah but i think we're going to like the what i've said i think we're going to

[01:34:43] hit that goal a little faster but you know not letting it go to our heads or anything is just still

[01:34:48] like we just keep we're still babies with this yeah do what we we're just enjoying what we're

[01:34:52] doing and i think that's the most important thing is enjoy what you're doing and enjoy the

[01:34:57] interviews is enjoy the stories experiences now but uh yeah no i like i said i don't

[01:35:04] i never had a in-game or goal or anything i just wanted to something to do and

[01:35:11] like you're doing well too man you're doing well too oh it first started off as like i said i

[01:35:16] had all this band stuff i wasn't doing band stuff i like while i do a podcast and then for whatever

[01:35:20] reason i just got to i went and bought this interface to record vocals for this band and i bought

[01:35:25] the p-a stuff and then they didn't want to do it anymore i was like well i guess now it's time

[01:35:30] to start the podcast i've been kicking around for the last two years so there we go everybody

[01:35:35] but now i am i enjoy it so that's fantastic but well that's the just of my end so

[01:35:47] i i thought it was awesome it was a great great story definitely we're going to be putting this up

[01:35:51] yes like i said it's uh i wish i could just say that it was 100 percent a normal dog

[01:36:01] yeah and it would make my life so much easier because as much as i say it didn't affect me

[01:36:10] look what i'm doing

[01:36:13] it exactly like this is where your life has gone yeah yeah you know all these all these events have

[01:36:19] pushed us in a direction and whether we like it or not it's pushed us in this direction and

[01:36:25] you know i think we have to embrace it like like i do know one person we're talking to right now

[01:36:30] you know i don't think she's embracing it she's finally maybe coming to acceptance of it but it's

[01:36:35] being very it's very very difficult you know and i you know some people do need that little bit

[01:36:42] of help or just they need people to listen to their stories and and and you given that platform

[01:36:48] we given that platform i think it's it's very therapeutic yeah no i agree i think everyone

[01:36:54] at some point has an experience and i don't know if a lot of people recognize it as experiences

[01:36:59] i don't think that it's all i don't know the proper termities i don't think it's all like

[01:37:05] just specific people i think everyone has

[01:37:10] some sort of interactions with something i don't know if that's spiritual i don't know if that's

[01:37:14] paranormal i don't know if it's demonic i don't know what's a little

[01:37:18] on it's some point that every single person that had something strange happened to them but

[01:37:22] a lot of people don't see it that way it recognizes yeah and then the the common phrase we always use

[01:37:30] just my mind playing tricks on me you know just just just just uh it's just my mind playing tricks when

[01:37:35] in fact when you start to realize it and you start to pay attention to it you start to realize

[01:37:39] that there's more out there yeah and i guess that i've tried to be skeptical about so much stuff but

[01:37:44] anymore since i especially since i've started doing the podcast i've been a lot more open-minded

[01:37:49] about things and with the stuff i've talked about earlier with you guys with my kids and what's

[01:37:55] going on in the house today and everything else like it's i'm almost on the fence of even wanting

[01:38:01] to continue doing the podcast because it's like if i'm bringing this type of stuff in yes you know

[01:38:07] yeah yeah that's why you just kind of see well i mean you have to go you have to weigh it out

[01:38:12] like do i want to continue because it's interesting will i get bored with it eventually and if you feel

[01:38:16] that maybe you should what if you want to go down this road because maybe the experience that you had

[01:38:23] kind of nudged you in this direction is you want to use like some type of universal force

[01:38:28] and if that's happening then you want to maybe i'm not particularly a religious person i'm

[01:38:33] a god person but not a religious person um maybe ding because you know that you also use the name

[01:38:40] of Jesus yourself you said a help so you know there's some type of power in that now maybe go to

[01:38:45] your local church and have your asklings i've thought about it that's what i was thinking about today

[01:38:52] i grew up in a Christian in my parents are super religious and it's not that i've a ginsere

[01:38:57] religion it's just i think there's a lot of flaws to certain aspects to everything

[01:39:05] of course because eagle comes into play with us and now yeah yeah so like you said i'm a god

[01:39:13] person and i believe there's a higher power i just don't know exactly which denomination or

[01:39:19] which religion or whatever it could be but i think if you're a good person that's what you

[01:39:24] trying to be in life what there it is and and maybe that's what you're doing i feel like that's

[01:39:32] what i tried what i feel like i'm trying to do as i'm trying to help people like so i don't know

[01:39:38] what the friendship i mean at the same time it's like a it's very fringy what you're doing is

[01:39:43] extremely fringy people or it's taboo and at the same time uh you're doing something that maybe

[01:39:52] other people don't want to hear or won't or choose or are fear to do and for you being like into

[01:39:58] horror into the metal music that we you and i are into that but listen to my entire life uh like

[01:40:05] for you you've heard you know you said your favorite band black guy you're murder he always talks

[01:40:09] about fantasy and now the poisoning of wells and the spires growing taller still and that's a great

[01:40:15] lyric uh what a moment like that occurs um when you so you're you're already you're there

[01:40:22] at least in your heart and now these things are nudging you in this direction and now

[01:40:28] you're they're meeting in a place that you don't want them to meet in your residence then maybe

[01:40:34] go back to the side and which it would help you go go to the religious side to the people because

[01:40:40] these things do help then i don't know why they help but they do well we did have one of our previous

[01:40:44] guests you know he actually asked if he could pray for us and we said sure and i he actually sent

[01:40:52] us recording which we don't play like we haven't played yet uh but i think we should before every

[01:40:58] episode before we do it so kind of like it's almost like a protection it's kind of something that

[01:41:02] i feel that there should be like yeah because we're opening up a portal we really are we're opening

[01:41:07] up a doorway and hearing and when we're sharing these experiences um but i feel that we should

[01:41:13] make sure we close that door after we're done having those experience having those talks and

[01:41:17] i don't i don't think about every podcast that'll be a good idea but i definitely

[01:41:21] no no no i don't know okay okay remember he said you're asking me for advice this is the advice

[01:41:26] of giving i think we should do this almost before before we do the podcast we do this yes

[01:41:31] i'm not saying we we should play it on the thing all right no yeah for us i know you're all yeah

[01:41:36] so but yeah this is what i'm saying is you know you you're you're inviting everything oh my god

[01:41:42] thanks manager okay so yeah we're we're kind of opening a doorway um it's the same thing with

[01:41:49] one of the things i would never touch anymore is a weegee board have because

[01:41:54] that opens up a whole other kind of warms a whole of those stories that maybe i believe are

[01:41:58] connected with that that i've experiences that i've had uh but you know you're opening up a doorway

[01:42:05] and you don't know what's on the other side when these people are telling you their experiences

[01:42:09] of course we're hearing their their stories they're what's on the other side but

[01:42:14] you know it's always good maybe to have that closure to secure actually i talked he actually

[01:42:21] has a pretty big podcast um you ever uncomfortable podcast i have not well think i might have

[01:42:30] he uh it's like a small u than a big n and then okay okay okay okay yes yes yes yes yes

[01:42:38] he's actually pretty cool guy he lives here in india and he's only about an hour north of me so

[01:42:42] we've been talking about a lot of things lately and we're doing some collaborating he was on one of my

[01:42:47] recent episodes and i was just a lot more than one of his episodes too but he said that he does a

[01:42:54] i don't know if it was a prayer but like a protection type of thing before specific interviews

[01:42:59] that he does because of certain things so i'm probably gonna reach out to him and ask him exactly

[01:43:05] what he does because i've never took it seriously that something could come through a computer and

[01:43:11] being manifesting in my house but at this rate i don't know i guess at the end of the day i don't

[01:43:15] know anything when it comes to stuff like this like i've talked to people i've looked into stuff i've

[01:43:19] read some stuff but at the end of the day i'm just a guy with a microphone so i'm gonna tell you

[01:43:24] something so on Tuesday we're just talking to the sask watchers and i was explaining a little bit

[01:43:30] of because i've done some work in sholatism i've done some i've been learning

[01:43:35] years ago kind of thing and it's still coming through now something that comes into play is i don't

[01:43:40] have you ever heard of scrying like an occult the scrying okay so scrying is when you use a

[01:43:46] mirror or some sort of reflective device to see to the other side or to communicate through the

[01:43:50] other through the other side okay so what do you think a computer screen is a screen is a kind

[01:43:57] of an essence a mirror we're scrying and we're communicating with someone else on

[01:44:01] you know we're not on the other side but yes so computer screens are in essence scrying so it's

[01:44:08] that type of protection we need to we need to take into account you know and so i do believe

[01:44:13] that something and my wife was kind of mentioning that to me the other day about like you know

[01:44:17] do you ever feel that maybe you're gonna bring stuff with you and i'm like yeah there's a

[01:44:22] possibility so it's kind of something that i you know i've been thinking about more and more

[01:44:26] lately last i would say last month it's something that's been coming out more and more where i'm like

[01:44:29] okay i think i need to you know he protect myself um and and to kind of like Kate the door is open

[01:44:40] now but when we're done i need to close that door every time we're done mm-hmm yeah no i

[01:44:46] i've thought and i don't know if it would still follow me it was on the same property but i thought

[01:44:49] about getting one of those barns put it out back and climate control the barn put all my stuff

[01:44:55] out there that way i'm not in the house doing it but at the same time it's like it's still on

[01:44:58] the property so i don't know if that'll necessarily make a difference but i it definitely would be

[01:45:04] it definitely would be but i i would definitely you know i can always tell you off air some other

[01:45:09] things that i would recommend to do you know with with what i've learned but the biggest thing and like

[01:45:15] i said placebo you know what why does the placebo work because people believe in it okay so if you

[01:45:21] believe what you're doing is going to close the door or going to protect you it's gonna have a lot

[01:45:27] of power to it yeah yeah instead of this right i'm willing to try anything just because when i

[01:45:33] start messing around with my children yep yep you gotta don't don't need to don't even imagine

[01:45:39] we all know we're all dads here yeah that's the one thing that uh i'll never do is try and harm put

[01:45:47] my children in some sort of harm's way so exactly at this podcast was called the last podcast episode

[01:45:54] ever before so i and so i i think start making some progressive changes like if you are feeling

[01:46:01] that it is opening a doorway then make sure you close that doorway and it stays up and reach out

[01:46:06] and ask others maybe ask a little cover forgive you a hand and just maybe see what happens and

[01:46:10] then if it doesn't get any better well and mentioned the weegies and i i should mention this

[01:46:18] probably about two months ago my kids had some friends over and they thought they're gonna make

[01:46:22] a big shift weegie board down in the basement uh oh and they had candles and they were like

[01:46:29] i was like you know they're probably down there trying to do a fricking sayons so i ran down here

[01:46:34] they were so i ripped them all new ones and their friends hasn't come back over since them because

[01:46:39] i was yelling and screaming and i was like up all the things to do do not do that shit in my house

[01:46:45] yeah like especially with what we had to deal with when we first moved in i think you guys remember

[01:46:51] that i haven't run around with scissors go run with scissors i get like they're they're 12 year old

[01:46:57] or 13 whatever like they don't understand but at the same time it's like

[01:47:02] you know what i do you know what i talk about you know what i how i feel about things don't

[01:47:07] fuck around with something like that yeah so i totally agree because it is a doorway you're

[01:47:13] opening up a portal to something and you don't know like and like this is exactly what i said on

[01:47:19] Tuesday i said it could be good and it's gonna say it's good could be bad it's gonna say it's good

[01:47:23] you don't know and especially if you don't know what you're doing especially if you're 12 or 13

[01:47:29] you know like like knowing what i know now would i still you know operate a Ouija board no

[01:47:36] no especially now that i know you know and and i was about 16 years old when when we decided to go

[01:47:43] to choice rr some biowigi board because that's where you find all the best Ouija boards and

[01:47:49] and uh yeah so that was that's something that'll never do again and that's after that is when

[01:47:55] i had the the shadow person experience there where there was uh you know i come home late from

[01:48:01] with some friends and i couldn't fall asleep tossing attorney on my bed watching the clock you

[01:48:07] know all i'm seeing is uh the time tick down you know time tick down because i had to wake up early

[01:48:12] the morning to go to work uh to work my part-time job and you know i'm like oh only seven hours

[01:48:17] of 13 minutes left to sleep both six hours and 58 minutes left to sleep that's what i just

[01:48:22] um and then uh so so this one there they go yeah so you know and then i finally see that's your

[01:48:30] ADD totally ADD just racks uh now i so yeah so let me get back on track so i'm count down time i'm

[01:48:39] like i can't sleep and that's when i look above me floating above me i see head uh shoulders torso

[01:48:46] and when it went to the waist that's when it disappeared off into nothing um and it was

[01:48:51] blacker than black the waist part though that was smoky like a white smoky so it was blacker than

[01:48:57] black but at this point it was like this white smoking now that wasn't the scary part scary part was

[01:49:03] the eyes the eyes like more of like not the whole eye but just like the pupil or just the cornea

[01:49:09] it was red glowing red and so you see this shadow person floating above me two to three feet with

[01:49:15] these red glowing eyes now um the length of time it stayed there i don't know could have been

[01:49:21] just a couple of seconds now at that point i was scared stiff and a lot of people are like oh that's

[01:49:27] sleeper house no no no this was if this was me being so scared i'm not moving was awake

[01:49:33] moving prior to this i see this i'm not moving now um the now after it disappeared i don't know

[01:49:41] how long it was with that time that i fell asleep all i remembered next was waking up in the morning

[01:49:49] so that was my my real shadow person experience that was

[01:49:53] yeah that kind of started me off on this like i'd seen other stuff prior to that but this was

[01:49:59] like the scariest thing that i'd seen i never knew what shadow people were up until i started

[01:50:04] looking into the podcast stuff and interviewing people but i think this was in 2003

[01:50:11] i lived still with my parents obviously and i remember waking up in the middle of the night

[01:50:18] and the ever just felt like your throat was like burning like you're choking or

[01:50:22] dagging wake up from asleep yeah i woke up like that and above me and everyone's lapdabby as like

[01:50:31] it was a cowboy i saw a black hat cowboy looking person above me and i they were choking me

[01:50:41] like i could i just seen like the silhouette of this cowboy choking me and that's why i felt the

[01:50:46] pressure and i couldn't move like i didn't know what perhaps sleep paralysis was or anything

[01:50:51] until just like when the last two years now but i couldn't move and the same was choking me

[01:50:57] and finally it just it disappears and i can move again and i was like when got drink of water

[01:51:03] i always wrote that off as well i was clearly dreaming that my throat was burning because i needed a

[01:51:07] drink and i was half asleep so i manifested this thing and then i started doing the podcast and

[01:51:13] started reading in a hat man like oh shit yeah sleep paralysis with a hat man and like

[01:51:21] exactly yeah this was 20 years ago i never heard of anything called a hat man up until two years ago

[01:51:27] so that was me the dog man i didn't know anything about dog man until like a year ago but hat man

[01:51:32] well i knew what i see but he told me the name was hat man so i seen one too now they're um

[01:51:38] um that's the one thing i can say i did i never

[01:51:42] brooted as anything real or paranormal i just thought i was dreaming but now that

[01:51:46] it sounds like a very common thing so what i've seen it looked like a walk in front of a doorway

[01:51:51] in my bathroom so like the light was shining out into the hall so it hurt something walking down the

[01:51:56] hall and then i heard a door open because there's a middle doorway in this building and then i was

[01:52:05] expecting another band door to open or it becoming where we were and i didn't hear nothing and then

[01:52:10] it walked in front and like you said it looked like a out of cowboy hat one or like a but not a big

[01:52:16] one yeah it was small it wasn't like a derby hat or a derby hat i guess you're called it not a cowboy

[01:52:22] hat but like somers in between very tall very defined outline but it looked like i had a like a

[01:52:28] duster on mm-hmm it was like it was just and it just walked right in front of the door dude this had

[01:52:34] the hat that came out almost like a brim to it yes and i seen like it almost like he said i'm

[01:52:41] well i always took like a vest i said it was a vest but i can see maybe being like a duster but

[01:52:46] like when it was just bent over i could just see it almost yeah you had a full front of i got

[01:52:51] there i get the sideways like i see in the whole shape of the head and i just seemed like the hat

[01:52:55] that went up like this and then it had rim around it but then there was a vest like you could see

[01:53:00] like you could almost see like this was open like it wasn't buckled like a shirt was unbuttoned

[01:53:05] or something like you'd see like a slit down side of it is it is it like the cowboy or is it like

[01:53:12] uh like a corset or something like that like a like a stale or something like that i don't know

[01:53:17] i always feel restless stone cold Steve Austin we had that leather vest thing that's what i always

[01:53:23] trucked up us it was like it looked like that see if i have a picture but you guys you

[01:53:28] i'm gonna see if i got something good i'm like no the hat shape i always thought it was a cowboy hat

[01:53:32] because it was just one of those they could have been like i don't remember if i seen i think

[01:53:36] how it's the same like the nose too well it's something like that no no no not not like that hey

[01:53:45] hmm not that i'm aware of like i said i didn't really see like features of a face i just seen

[01:53:53] i just see that might be a better no that's like uh that's like uh was it that came where the guy

[01:53:58] climbs up the mountain yeah not not anything like that i know not like that it was more it was

[01:54:03] definitely rounded it almost not like a top hat but you know like the people back from the 30s

[01:54:08] and 40s like the old gangsters they always had the hats on something like that it could have been

[01:54:12] something similar to that one too like the rounded yeah it's kind of it's rounded on the top

[01:54:19] now but it kind of comes out it comes out like from the head maybe i don't have six seven inches

[01:54:27] yeah maybe it wasn't like the cowboy hat where it was at real far where like it's blocks this one

[01:54:32] they had it went around the whole hat yes yes it looks like they do it from moral combat

[01:54:37] to through the hat at you yeah yeah kind of like that kind of like that size too yeah so and but

[01:54:43] i don't remember if i can't distinguish remember because it was like a profile if they had like

[01:54:47] the nose and all that i just seen the hat in like the shoulders but i don't remember

[01:54:52] real quick i don't remember the facial features i don't know if i had i just remember

[01:54:58] the shape yes and yeah like i said i always i chalked that up as it was part of a dream

[01:55:05] yeah i had sleep or i was this too but i've never had it where i've had something above me i mean

[01:55:10] i thought of where i couldn't move and i couldn't open my eyes and i can hear myself breathing i can

[01:55:15] hear myself and my dream i'm yelling and i can hear myself yelling at myself and if someone were

[01:55:21] just to touch my pinky i swear i would be able to move it's like you're trying to move for 10 tons

[01:55:26] but it got my whole body trying to move i just had that happen about a month ago in my own bedroom

[01:55:31] like i was just laying there and i was awake but i felt like i couldn't move and if i like it move

[01:55:35] it's just strange oh yeah or you're just about to fall asleep and you're like

[01:55:41] and like you're like i didn't freak you out like that i don't have many at many a time

[01:55:46] yeah i always feel like i'm like i'm levitating sometimes and like i jerk and like the bed

[01:55:51] jibberates and like i was floating i had to been floating but well guys i think we can probably

[01:55:58] wrap this up if you're absolutely yes yes i'm getting late here yeah i'm really uh

[01:56:03] i got this has been packed with my friends so i've got kid upstairs that's been running wild for

[01:56:10] the last two and a half hours so jesus now where is what trouble did they get into now i don't

[01:56:16] as long as they're happy i don't care like fair enough fair enough as long as he's not pointing

[01:56:21] a ghost in the scene like night guess that's fine yeah but no guys i appreciate it you want to

[01:56:28] let everyone know where they can find your podcast at again of course it's uh the lost frequency

[01:56:33] podcast we're on all podcast platforms you know apples modified pod beam podcast addict all the

[01:56:41] ones are together and then of course on youtube you know where we're kind of really pushing more for

[01:56:44] youtube lately uh and that's of course the lost frequency podcast um and facebook

[01:56:51] rye voss franklin that's it well i also have a facebook group all that stuff and uh yeah just we

[01:56:57] we drop our episodes on spotify and that whole podcast every Thursday and every in all

[01:57:03] of the videos that go with the podcast come on and every Sunday nice i'll make sure to include

[01:57:07] what i can in the show notes too so if you got any specific links just send them my way in all

[01:57:12] adam in there definitely definitely yes and we're where you found uh what area where you found

[01:57:18] you i knew you said you don't do a video so not youtube no i'm on youtube i just put up a static

[01:57:25] image videos uh yes yes that's what you that's what tom was doing at the beginning i actually

[01:57:31] i didn't know you're on youtube i know you're on like i found you on spotify and and pod bean as well

[01:57:38] yeah i'm on all the places where your podcast should be so spotify apple all that's if i

[01:57:44] listen on apple because i have apple stuff so i pay for the subscription for music so i get all

[01:57:50] the podcast stuff for free too so well free yeah exactly free but yes so anyone out there listening

[01:57:59] you can find ten full tells on youtube you can find on any streaming platform i will give a warning

[01:58:06] though there is another podcast called ten full tells but it is from australia and they talk about

[01:58:11] the australian government that is not me i did not know that podcast existed but they released

[01:58:18] the first episode of theirs in june and i released mine in september last year but i've had the name

[01:58:22] before they had theirs was like son of a bitch so yeah i uh mistakenly this is funny like back in

[01:58:32] april i was ranked after year when it was like pop 25 in australia it's like how the hell my ranked

[01:58:39] australia it was the wrong pod people were people were going there going to the wrong pod guy kept

[01:58:45] getting messages from people from australia like what do you think about the scratchers out in the

[01:58:49] back was like the what i was like what i was like i don't know what you're talking about

[01:58:56] and so i started i googled and i was like oh shit there's another pod that's called ten full

[01:59:01] tales so yeah i i can i know you should have done is send a message back with links to your

[01:59:07] episodes well i don't know but check this out what do you think of this i don't know about snickers bars

[01:59:12] are completely thrown off yeah i don't apparently just i guess scratchers that could be 100%

[01:59:17] on book from what i gathered was their kind of like methods the australian version of methods or

[01:59:22] something i don't know i don't know but that's uh that's a little interesting tidbit today so if you

[01:59:29] look up ten full tales make sure someone that has like the artwork that looks like aliens and

[01:59:34] monsters and stuff on the cover like if it's if it says uh ten foil tells there's got like a blood

[01:59:41] drippy white logo with a ten foil hat on it that is the australian one there we go well guys i

[01:59:47] appreciate it it's been great talking with you yes thank you so much for having us yeah you

[01:59:52] guys have a good night you too remember the truth lies and the stories we share the connections

[02:00:04] we make stay curious stay open minded thank you all for joining us on this journey and until next

[02:00:09] time keep questioning keep seeking and keep exploring the unknown hi everyone