Ep. 78: UFOs & Peculiar Lights in the Sky

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes as soon as I made eye contact with this thing and don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Teals. I'm your host, Brandon Rag to night's episode. We're going to be joined by David and by my friend Ed. Both have seen something strange in the skies. Eds was fairly recently looking forward to getting them on to talk about it before we bring them on. 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Make sure to follow us on social media. Can reach out to me that way too, if you're interested. I think now we're going to go ahead and bring David on. We'll talk with him and then we'll jump over to the conversation with Ed. Hope. You know what we're going to talk about, so sit back, relax and enjoy the show. Like to take time to welcome my guest today, David. Thanks for coming on here and talking with me. Thanks for having me Brandon, I appreciate it. Yeah, pleasured in mind a little bit about yourself. So I'm going on thirty five years old, born and raised in Saint Paul, you know, moved down to Rochester a few years ago. I got a house, a bunch of cats, and some kids. You know, that's about it. Yeah, that's a sounds about how most people are. Heck, yeah, but no, you'd messaged me or a comment or whoever talking about some experiences you had, so yeah, share some of that. Sure, I have a few of them. So I'm gonna start a couple. When I was a kid, they're kind of you know, they're real quick. One was and they were just like little white orbs. I was in my backyard looking at the sky and this whit pass. So I'm not sure if they were actual UFOs or like maybe birds that I just happen and catch a glimpse of. But it was really strange because you know, you can usually tell the difference between like a bird in the sky and something that's like, yeah, right, No, I know what you're saying. And then another one was something similar, but it was we're at the cool yard behind the house I was living at and flying a kite, so you know, we're looking at the sky and there's a bunch of things like that, like just doing weird patterns in the sky and things. And I thought that was really odd. There was everybody was out there, like flying kites and playing in the field, and they were all everybody was looking at it. So and this was before, you know, we had these awesome cell phone cameras and stuff, so and we didn't even have a cell phone back then. No, So that one was a little weird, you know. And I've always been interested in this kind of thing. So now the next two here one is not necessarily an object, but it was just a weird thing. It happened, and it was in the winter, and it had to be like two thousand and ten or eleven, and my first apartment, and I had my family over and we're sitting there and watching TV. My sister's cooking in the kitchen, and then all of a sudden, the lights start flickering, the TV starts to go in and out, and we're looking outside on the balcony and everybody's lights are doing that and the sky is like green and blue and red. It's like, I think we got hit by like a solar flare or something, but like I didn't hear anything about it on the news. It was just really crazy. That's weird. Yeah, it was really weird. And my sister was like, we're looking out the windows, like are we going to die? It was like it was like, no, We're not going to die, but it was it was good. No. No. This next story was crazy. It happened when I was young, a little bit younger. I was like eighteen when this happened. And it was with a couple of buddies and we're going down this road in Saint Paul that goes along the river outside of downtown, and we're going to another friend's house. And as we're going, we're going past the airport that's right there alongside the river, and we see this thing. We can't really tell what it is, right, it's just sitting on above the bank of the river. As we're driving, like, we're all looking like what is that? There's no down wash, there's just lights, like little red lights on it, and it kind of looked like because it had one on top of it too, so it was like four red lights, three on the bottom, one on top, and it was just it was like cloaked or something. We couldn't see. It was like a jet black and there was no sound, no backwash or nothing. So we drove past it and I couldn't find a place to pull off because I wanted to stop and look at this thing. So we just kept going and we took the same road on the way back. And this is when it gets weird because the thing was gone, but in place of it was a tugboat with a fricking spotlight on it, and it was pointed down at the water, So I you know, that river was definitely something sitting right there. Yeah, that's strange that it was on the water too. Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's the like. And I always always had a weird thing of I think there's something underneath the Saint Paul Airport, you know, some weird thing like that. I don't know. I have no proof or anything. It's just speculation, but I have I think I haven't really heard anything about the Saint Pole Airport. What is some of the weird things that go on there. Well, I mean it's just because it's right downtown, you know, it's kind of and it's like it's just weird and like that thing I saw we saw that day and it's just you know, you always see planes coming in now, but just this so weird. Yeah, I know. They say the Denver Airport, the new one I think it is, has a lot of weird stuff going on there, a lot of weird imagery and oh yeah, heck yeah, man, the mural and then they have that big like horse statue that's like with red eyes and shit, it's crazy. Yeah, there's a lot of weird stuff when it comes to that. I backctually wanted to do an episode kind of dedicated just to that airport, but I haven't done it yet. No. Yeah, that's that's definitely a whole episode is worth of things that go on to the airport and the speculations in the supposed theories. M have you ever had anything else strange that has happened that you've looked back at and as you've gotten older and think it could have been some sort of weird, strange activity that you weren't aware of at the time. No, nothing, nothing, that I can really think of as far as like well with Saint Paul Airport or anything like that, and those are like the main experience. You know. I always see weird things in the sky, but you can never really tell, especially because it's like usually a blinking light and most of the time it's like that's a plane. I feel like, if there's a light blinking on it, it's not anything out of the ordinary. I feel like if it's something you see something moving but you don't see any like blinking red or green lights, then it's obviously not a normal plane because I feel like every aviation regulation has to have the green and red blinking lights on it. So you're saying something solid moving but it doesn't have a light, and clearly it's not from at least within regulation. It could be a secret craft from us, or it could be something completely different, right, And that's what you know. I considered that with that thing off that was hovering above the water there on the river, like that could have been you know, if there's testing testing some secret drone or something back then No, you know, it was it was just weird. And to see this tugboat with the spotlight on that was That solidified it for me and my buddies at the time, that there was definitely something there that we saw, but we couldn't distinguish or identify. I wonder if whatever that thing was looking at that's why the tug book come out there, either looking for it or looking for whatever that thing was looking for, because if it was like a secret drone, they could have had something and down there that they were searching for. All right, Eh, that's a I didn't think about that definitely. Yeah, there's a lot of weird things that go on and it's hard to explain, but I try to keep an open mind anymore. I used to be pretty skeptical about a lot of things. But there's a lot of stuff that the further you dig into it, the more you're either going to reject it or be open to it. And I tended to become more open minded when it comes to certain things, just because there's a lot of weird shit out there. Oh yeah, yeah, man, And like I've, like I said, I've always been interested in this, but I've kept an open mind. But it's always be skeptical, skeptical, skeptic about things. Yeah, at least you know, just have an open mind, because you know, we don't know what the hell is going on. There's a lot, like you said, a lot of weird shit that no one's telling, that one's explaining, or we're all just sitting here speculating on what is going on and what these things might be. How do you feel about the new disclosures going on? I think it's you know, the funny thing about that is like, get you know all this? They basically said that, yeah, there's things like this, and there's you know, non human entities, and everybody, no one cares. No one seems to care about it. And I've been following, like, I don't know if you ever heard of doctor Greer, but this man has been the forefront about this for a long time, and he's like he used to be an er doctor and all this, so he is credible and all these things. But yeah, yeah, he said that there's aliens. So I've heard some mixed reviews with this guy. Some people thought he was a grifter or some others think he's legit. I've not done any sort of research on him personally. I've watched his documentary. I can't think of what it's called. Off the top of my head and be honest, I was kind of bored. But yeah, yeah, that's understandable. There's a lot of information to get through, and like the way that he presents it is more like trying to be scientific, and no, I understand what he's trying to do and appreciate the scientific fact behind it. But if I remember, I don't they try to communicate with the the crafts or whatever they're seeing up there. They send like signals to them, like lights or whatever, lasers and stuff, and try and see if they get like responses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he does. He does like retreats, he calls them and like they'll go out and they'll they'll meditate and they'll like try to communicate telepathically with these and they see says they come in and stuff. And from some of the footage I've seen, it seemed legit to me at least, But I'm into that kind of like metaphysical type thing. So that's in my, uh my wheelhouse. I interviewed a lady recently that said the same thing that she was trying to communicate with them. She had flashlights at them to shoot a laser pointer Adam and actually would like respond one come back towards them in the disappeared, Like. I find that stuff interesting, But I was also thinking in the back of my head, what happens if you start shooting a laser pointer at this thing and you end up triggering something and ends up shooting a laser back at you, but an actually real long laser. All right, I'm sure they have far advanced laser technology and we can even comprehend. Well, I've seen something the other day talking about these laser weapons that have been announced or whatever. I thought it was the UK. I don't know if it was a true story or not, because who can believe anything you see on the internet. All Right, this advanced laser space technology, they have the weapons or whatever. It's like, Oh, it kind of goes back to that conspiracy realm where some of these people think some of these fires and stuff are created by these laser things out in space floating around. Oh the directed weapons, yeah, yeah, the direct energy weapons mounted on a mount on satellites, right, yeah, I mean, and I don't think that's too far from the truth. Honestly, some of these I don't know if you've dug into any of those wildfires, but it was always really weird, like totally melted metal cars and then like a tree next to it's fine, Like it's it's weird. There's some weird things. I'm not saying that it was a directed energy weapon, but a lot of the weird circumstances with that whole situation. There was rumor floating around that anything that had blue on it, like a blue tar, painted blue whatever, anything blue didn't get touched. Right, Yeah, what about that? Well, so it seems strange to me that everything that wasn't blue was burnt. So that's I don't know if that's an energy weapon or what it is, but I don't know. I fires that picked can choose the directions they go and only target certain things that aren't blue. That's the whole again. I wasn't there. I haven't witnessed it, as is just stuff I've seen or heard. So it's like, right, take it with a grain of salt. Exacts all you can do with these things nowadays, you know, you gotta sift through it and figure out what's the truth and what's not. And it's really hard nowadays, man. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff out there that it's hard to decipher. If it's true or not. But that's kind of what this show is about. I dabble into a lot of things. So Jeff, well, is there anything else you'd like to discuss or But I mean, nothing I can really think of off the top of my head right here. Okay, Well, no, I appreciate you coming on here and sharing your experiences with me and stuff you've seen. Oh yeah, thanks for having me on. Man, it was really it was good talking about it and stuff. You know. I don't well, I've really done this kind of forum like this and talked about my experiences. So I mean, it's only like my close friends and family that know about that kind of stuff. Yeah, a lot of people are afraid to come forward just because of the stigma that's with it. But I'm trying to give a platform for everyone to not have to worry about it, because I know how it feels to have some stuff go on and people laugh at it. I think you're crazy. So that's not what I'm about, trying to get rid of that stigma for people. That's good man. We need more of that nowadays, because you know, the more if people are comfortable to talk about it, then we'll get more information. That's what we need. Ye, well, David, I appreciate it and I hope you have a good day. Thanks Manon, thanks for having me again. Man you have a good day as well. Yep, you two all right? Love it. I like to take the time to welcome back my friend. How you doing, I'm all right. Ed was the first guest that ever appeared on Tinfoil Tell So all the way back at episode one when we talked about weather control. Yes, and then the bonus episode of band Life, which it's funny because that episode would let us to start the other Podcasted and I have a podcast together called dark Side of the Scene, and we interview bands and musicians, not about the weird stuff we talk about on here, but just the struggles that musicians go through, the struggles of dealing with actual humans and not paranormal and you know, cryptids. I don't know what's worse. You know, sometimes I'd rather deal with a bigfoot than a drummer, drummer, bass player. I wonder if bigfoot could be a drummer. Well, they're pretty elusive, just like bass players are. But yeah, Well, for the listeners out there, you had a recent sighting of something I figured AU have you come on here and talk about it. I do, actually, And it's not like I came on the show and said, Hey, I've been on here before, so I'm gonna make something up. No, I actually, like, you know, it happened on Friday, so I uber on the side. You know, times are tough, we all know the struggle whatever, and I actually enjoy it sometimes. I don't know why, mate, It's because I've had the same job for like twenty something years and it's like this is kind of cool. Every day is an adventure every time I go in there because I never know where I'm gonna be. So what I'm getting at is am I supposed to say locations? Yeah, it's fine, Okay, So if you're familiar with the show, what we're from, Like Indiana, I'm from northern India. He's like middle all right, So I live like in a town. I won't say my town, but like we'll just say el Khart because I live glad el Khart because el Khart's embarrassing. But it was like one of those I wish I didn't remember the exact date, but I just remember specifically being kind of like foggy in the sky. We're like, let's say, if you saw like like a big high tower of light, it would take a lot for it to penetrate because it was that dense, but you could kind of see something, and usually that kind of light bounces off fog and it looks like more like you know, mysterious and almost like sinisters just a regular light tower. So with that being said, I just happened to get somebody to pick up in an Ocala area, and in that area there's a lot of train tracks facing one of the main roads that'll take you to Michiwanka or whatever. So I pick up this guy at like I guess they're like a apartments. There are like only one story apartments because I specifically remember this picking up this person. I'm gonna say his name, but I picked him up before I dropped him off at work, and uh I pull up. Well before I pull up, I just like kind of saw like what I thought was lightning in the sky, right, but I don't think it really rained. I'm not really sure, and so I'm like, oh, it was so bright, you know, And then I pull up and I wait for him, and then all of a sudden, I'm staring the sky seeing if I could see that lightning, but towards the tracks in the sky, it like bursted like something exploded in the sky, right, And I my dumb ass, I should have recorded it. That was so the immediate thing is you want to see for your own self what's what's in front of you, right, Like, you don't want to stop and record it. You just want to actually see what's going on. So it happened several times, just this burst explosion of light and there was no It looked like fireworks in the sky, right, And there wasn't any lightning. There was no you know, some people could have said, what if it is lightning. I'm like, lightning doesn't have like multiple colors, right, And you didn't hear thunder's boom like you would normally like thunder or a fireworks for that matter. I mean, who the hell's lighting off fireworks at like ten pm on a Friday in dense fog. So I watched it happen again, and then the guy was picking up like mind you. I got out of my car and stared at it in the sky, and then he was approaching my car. How's it going, sir? You know? Ever, He's like, how's it going, man, like, you ever seen something like that in the sky? He's like, what it happened? Right? Then? He's like, oh, you know he was. He said he'd never seen anything like that either, and mind you, like he's lived there, so it's not like it's a regular currents. So we got in the car and took off and we were both kind of like what the hell? So I ended up dropping this guy off. Well, this is even funnier, not that it has anything to do with anything. You want me to take him a liquor store, and then he had me drop him off at five below and like five blows. It's like ten, almost eleven, and you want me to drop him off a five below and the store's obviously closed, So that I dropped him off and I left him like, I don't know what happened to him after that, So that's got nothing to do with anything. I just found that kind of funny too, But I told him that, you know, my nuts, I had a smile on my face. I'm like, what the hell did I just see? So and nobody else really reported anything about seeing it. I asked a couple of people, obviously, who's going to be on a night like that who's actually going to be outside staring at the sky when it's foggy. Gross, It's literally like not the best weather. I mean, this was like, damn, I wish I remember the timeline. I think it was around the beginning of December. Yeah, I feel like that. I mean it was getting cold because we had a pretty much pretty much a warm winter, well for the most part most of it. So yeah, I just remember just being pretty happy that I saw something I could not explain and telling people that. And you know, my my father in law was like, well, if you were like facing the direction toward the tracks, what it feels like that private airport. I'm like, I don't really know, Like this is a tiny airport, tiny like I think they do like flying lessons, so I don't really think like anybody or amateur pilots would be fucking around at like ten pm trying to light the sky up with like a burst of insane colors. And it was just like it was almost like watching like CGI when they were just like lighting up the sky like that kind of shit you see in a Marvel movie Project blue Bean, mate. I don't know, it was just so weird, like it just happened to I don't know if like it was just my time to see that, Like the coincidence was really strange. I mean, I just happened to get going that direction and my car was facing that direction as I waited for the guy to get my car. But you know, I really I really regret not filming it, even though, like I had my phone on my little clip thing and I had the GPS map ready to take my client customer to a spot via Uber. So your timeline is around the same time I saw those two weird things here if you remember. The one was around right before Thanksgiving. It was that orange glowing. I thought it looked like a flares out behind my house out in the field. It was above that and then I think I actually tried to send you the video, but it doesn't actually show up on the video when you send it, which is weird, which you can state it on my phone. The thing that was out in front of the house that looked like Elon's not Stargate whatever it's called starlink ring, but that's not what it was. And then you can see it. It just disappears like it fades away, but there was multiple of them and they were almost like in a line, and then they just disappeared. That was the first week of December, and I think yours was like a day or two later. Yeah, it's strange that they all happened within like a couple weeks of each other. Yeah, this was facing south because I know that for a fact. And like I know, like there's also like what is that fucking railroad company called that we have up here? Why can't I think of it? Or CX in Northfolk Southern? I think north Folk Southern is like we're because it's not really like it's like a where a lot of the train tracks meet and you know, the workers work there. Yeah, And I wouldn't think like there would be anything. It's not like they have big cranes. As far as I know, they don't have cranes. It would be like well regardless, it wouldn't. I wouldn't have anything to be that high in the sky or would light that would light it to that degree Like it was just like a bursting lights like yeah, and again like it was the the fog was so dense that it just made it more sinister and bigger. Maybe I don't know, I just know whatever it was it was super bright to penetrate enough fog, and nobody else saw it, which sucks. And and I was gonna say, like earlier, like if anybody saw it, they probably would have said, oh, it's starlink. I might it was way too dense, so it wouldn't have been starlink because starlink isn't bright like that. No, starlink looks literally like little lights just right loating. They're not it's not going to make the skybright. It's not anything that close to anything bright like I had to have been either, like you said, some sort of like heat lightning, which it wouldn't have been hot in December, and it could have been a plane, but I don't know, the only thing I could think of was with it being flash like a light or whatever. I was thinking like maybe lights from a like a cop car or a fire truck or something like that. It was it was. It wouldn't have been that was more ground relevel. This was like up in the sky more like just I mean, like I said, my witness never seen anything like it either. Not that I could ask him to be on the show because I don't really, but like I was just happy somebody else saw it, and I was not crazy. That's probably what made me happier that he saw it, and he was like visibly visibly shocked too, Like oh, maybe that's why I go to liquor store, you know, and times are coming. I don't know, but like I don't know, like that was with everything going on, that made me look pretty happy to see that. Whatever the hell it was. What color did you say they were? It was like like orange and bluish color, like I guess you would describe it almost as like, you know, like dry lightning. I know what we said earlier, heat lightning, heat lightning in a way, but like it was almost felt like like a firework went off, and then all the dense fog had made it more like internally combusting. So there is the possibility someone could have just been a jackass and shot a firework off, but you would have probably heard something. You would have heard that, and they kept going off constantly for about ten ten thirty ish before eleven, and like, you know, if anybody has seen that and seen it in Indiana, like well, I don't know if everybody who listened to this from Indiana, like I don't know of other people reporting that kind of thing. But it just seemed very strange. It's all I could really elaborate. And I look in the sky all the time to see if that will ever happen again. But yeah, when you see one thing, it makes you start looking more again for stuff. That's the eye opening, you know, Like, sir, you know you're a photo that you have for your screen saver. Here the sky look like what's at the bottom the foggy light. Yes, that shit. And I'm not saying that because I just saw it, and I'm like, oh, I'll just make up a store. No, I saw it. I saw. I mean, it looked like that, but just flashing. You can see it's like multi colored. That's what it fucking looked like. For the life of me, nobody else has seen it. If I posted about it again, the pride to say it was you know, spacelink whatever starlink, and you can trace where that thing is. And I don't know. I know what I saw was not because it wasn't in the area. And I thought what I've seen were flares, But flares don't sit still and just go up in the air then disappear. They'd be coming downward. Yeah, and then whatever is out front. There was multiple of them, and I wasn't the only one that's seen on My entire family seen them. And the first one, for whatever reason, in the backyard, I was an idiot and made them come look at it, but never once that I think they're try and record it. And I even get like criticizing other people that are like, oh, I've seen an UFO, you're trying to record the node and think about it all that's dumb. And I did the same damn thing. Well, like my brain didn't your process. I should probably record this, no, because you're trying to like make sense out of it firsthand before you sound crazy and scrab your phone and be like, oh, I need record this now. But you know, it's usually instinct to like figure it out yourself before you you know, and try to make sense out of it before you, you know, record something stupid. And then the second one, we were driving back home and we were on the road and I gave my phone to my wife and told her to start recording it because I'd already remembered I didn't record the one out back. So when I saw this one a couple of days later, like record it. I'd already want to record it, and again you can see it if you ever look on my phone. But if I try and send the video to people, for whatever reason, the quality gets shot and then you don't see it. Hm. It's kind of strange that, Uh, I can watch a video right now on my phone and I can see it, but the moment I transcend it to someone doesn't work. So I guess I've ever seen people in real life they want I asked about this video. Here's the video. You can see it on my phone. Whatever reason the quality gets ruined, you can try and messing with it, like the picture of saturation settings, like you edit video. I might just try and send the video itself to my computer edit it on there. It's like when I try to edit it on my phone, it makes it go away. I don't know why. But if you just watch it you can see it. It's strange. Maybe maybe that's the enigma of the UFO phenomenon. People record the things and you can't ever see them, just like when people try and record a big foot and that's always blurry. He looks like tree leaves, right, that's all like, or automatically makes the camera shaky. Yeah, shaky and pixelated. Like I said, I know what I saw, and you know it, I'm still like happy I saw it. I told everybody about it, and they're fascinated too. Well, like I said, the way things are going right now, nobody's surprised anymore about what they see. It's just like, well, those are the things I heard the news talk about. And it's well, you know, as as a you know, adult and then being a kid that always wanted to see the ship, it's like the middle the inner child that gets excited about this shit because you always believe something was out there at least what's the movies and TV told you, you know. But as an an adult growing up and everything, would you say you were more of a skeptic mm or were you more open to the fact that there is stuff out there. I've always been open to it. It's just like reality kind of like sets you back and just kind of everything they tell you is like, well, now there's an explanation for everything, just like you know, the ros world and all the other shit, and you know, you watch the news for any tidbits of this stuff, and there's never been anything up until now. To be honest, it's just like you know, you just get the same. The news is depressing, right, so anything positive it is just like in the back of the show. But it never has been anything about spaceships and shit, because according to regular media, they think you're fucking crazy. That's why they put random shows on late night TV about this shit. Ancient aliens, a fucking what was a scary one. That's all mysteries, you know. So those always piqued my interest, but I've always been hesitant to ever say that I was a believer, just because I don't know what it could be. I'm not gonna say aliens are from space. I'm not gonna say aliens are from another dimension. I'm not going to say aliens are from already here. I'm not going to say their time travelers, because at the end of the day, I don't think it anyone really knows unless they're in the unless they have bodies and know for one hundred percent certain what they are. I think anyone like me or you or whoever, unless you're a sy out person and you know all the answers, uh, I don't think anyone has a real idea of what these things actually are. I've talked to people before that think that UFOs are just us from the future having back in time. I was gonna say, like, I wouldn't want to go back to my past, and I'm like, that's embarrassing, especially like if if we're that okay for that advance right in the future, why even bother going back. It's almost like unless it's like one of those things where I always wanted to see a dinosaur and then you go back in time and check it out, like but in the now, in the present, I feel like anybody who's advanced that far, it's pretty embarrassed of how things are right now. Who would want to see that? Or maybe to them it's like a field trip into history. I don't see how you can physically go back in time. Yeah, to me, no, that makes sense, Like how do you go backwards through history and through time? So if you're able to go back in time, and I actually just mentioned this previously when I was recording another guest that it's almost like the butterfly effect. If you go back in time, you alter something, maybe not even intentionally, but you ran over a bug, or your spaceship flew in it hit a bird. Well, that bird crapped on something that caused poisons somewhere and killed this person. That's why we have Mendela effect because it's like a butterfly effect going on, Like the one thing you did changed everything, even though it was unintentional. You didn't even realize you did it, but it altered stuff. So that's why the Mendel effect exists, because people don't remember what's supposedly happened, and we remember something completely different, and they'll they're telling us that this stuff isn't true. It's was this way. Mhm. It makes me wonder. I was like, well, did we go into a different dimension? Did someone come back and screw up the timeline? Like what's going on. It's not like they fixed anything or altered it to where it's like life altering or anyone else for betterment. It's just like I remember cornucopia on my damn underwear for Fruit of the Loom, and obviously there's no cornicopia, but I remember the kid having cornicopia's on the little yeah, because they had like those older guys dress as fucking fruits. Yeah, I mean, I mean they kind of explained this a little bit in like that Van Damn movie I watched time cop recently and I was like, well, this is an interesting fucking story, like, you know, go back some time and they definitely alter everything that in the favor of a presidential candidate or me as a senator something like that, and like it was an interesting concept, stupid movie, but it's like hotly crap, you know, like or it could it could even be like was that stupid Marvel movie Tony Stark figures out like time travel? I mean I think, like I think they went back, but everything was still the same because all those people like they went back, but they didn't alter anything they because they didn't want to change stuff. They just brought everyone back. I thinks, how I don't remember. Oh yeah, they brought everybody back. That like, they brought them back to the present of five years past that they were gone. So nothing of this timeline changed since then everyone remembers that they were Gone't that weird? Like, yeah, I guess that's pretty traumatized, Like you were dead for like five years, which back, but we aged a little more and wait today age two. No, they didn't because they were gone, so they basically, wow, they lost five years of their life, but yet they didn't. There's you know, and now is a sort of alluding to like how how media is when they're like you know, movies and you know, shows kind of convey aliens and tell you about how they are and and they're in the Hollywood world, you know, Like I always wonder about like their's theories being thrown around about some of the Marvel movie shit is actually real. It's just like you know, in plain sight kind of thing. Some of us can be turned into the whole Super Soldier hype experiences. The people have actually talked to people on here for interviews. They think they went through space and everything, and that's part of the whole the Super Soldier program that they think they've went through. So I don't know. Again, I'm not here to judge or say it's true or not true. I don't know. I didn't experience it, but that's could be a very possibility that uh, or even like the most wild One, which kind of is is really interesting, how they you know, in the Black Panther movies, like Africa is like a lot more technology fews and they say, but I think, like the conspiracy theory about Africa is it's actually way bigger than they say on a map and whether or not they're hiding something there. It could be possible because I guess the country is like way bigger than what the map it really is. So I heard they say the same thing about Australia. But then there's also people that don't think Australia exists at all, So sure that's a yeah, I need to get Australia here and like ask them, like what is going on? I interviewed a couple of people from Australia. Oh yeah, and our other show we've interview people from Australia. So if you don't exist, I guess we're just talking to AI. I don't know. It's just interesting. It's all that other shit. But like again, you know, I'm just a small peon that saw strange lights in the sky. And again I have no explanation for what I saw. I just know what I saw, and I had a witness, and it's just like that's that's my story there. And I would really hope somebody else would see it somewhere and be on the show and explain it, because you know, because I always think, like, okay, it was a dense fog, so if anything was going by, you would not see anything but lights, you know, I mean it could be a cover. It could be like the same thing with the weather control. Like, if you're gonna fly a massive ship, Let's say, what would you do, how would you disguise? What would be the most practical way to disguise? I mean you probably have yeah, or well if maybe you have a less advanced ship so you can't use the cool cloning technology. But you know, but I also think, why would you make yourself present by shooting off lights? So that's another thing. I just like, what the hell did I saw see? I've never understood that either when it comes to UFOs, but people are seeing lights on us that if they have blinking lights, they're not from outer space. I wouldn't think, because why would they have blinking lights? That seems to be more of a fucking humanized thing than alien thing. You wouldn't think that they're flying through space. And like, oh, got to make sure I got our red and glean red and clean green blinkers going on there and got tongue time for a second, right, And it wasn't like again, like it wasn't like it'd be a ship just flying. I don't know what I saw other than bursts of light like exploding, and I don't know what the hell of that moment, you know, Like again, there was no sound that should have been there, like if it was explosions, So it was mine. It was baffling. The only thing that people could say would be a lightning or something like that. I don't know what else it could possibly, Yeah, but lightning doesn't strike in the that that could be feasible. But like the problem is, like lightning kind of goes everywhere. This was concentrating on one spot and it kept showing up in one spot a few times it went off. So again I basically yeah, like lightning doesn't do that per se and for it to happen a few times and then stop, because as soon as we left, it stopped doing it. So you should have told him you're going to take a detour and drove towards it. Well, no, I could, and I was working, and I wanted to make sure he got home or not home, but go to the fucking liquor store. You know, that's my tip right there, So had you know, I feel like I don't know how to say this, Like I feel like if I wasn't working, I would have fucking went that way. But but one of the coincidences is I just happened to be waiting on somebody and just happened right there, Like all right, dude, we're gonna hit the liquor store up. We're gonna take a little shortcut here and see what this light is first, and uh, maybe they'll have some better looking for you. Well, the liquor store was like totally opposite way, so it couldn't it would have been feasible. That's what sucks. I had to go north. Yeah, I believe I had to go north to go take him a liquor store. Another podcast idea, you had tax or taxicab confessions. Now you're gonna have uper confessions. Oh man, you're gonna ask them about the weird stuff that they encounter. Oh man. There's there's a Facebook crew for that. I have not I refuse to join it because I don't want to. Like it's already interesting, like the job itself, you know, but I just never thought a job like that would make me find aliens but strange lights in the sky. So I, like I said, I think it's a cool coincidence that I just happen to be there. At the time, and nobody else posted about it, because again, who the fuck would be outside looking up in that area at like ten eleven pm. Nobody. It's like Friday night. People got other things to do. So yeah, one of the many mysteries. It'll probably go unsolved. But if anyone out there listening has seen random lights that look like in a fog or misty area and clouds and they're pulsating in the same area, not moving like lightning, would be reach out with the podcast so we can let it know that you saw something similar that I'm not alone. Well, I think we can wrap this one up. So again, want to say thanks to Ed for coming back on here and talking with me. Yeah anytime, I guess. I mean, I don't have much to talk about normally as far as those things go. But maybe another time it'll happen. Maybe one day you'll see a bigfoot runout, make sure to run him over. Well, yeah, that's a fine or legal or something. Yeah, that'll make some audience members probably upset with me that I said that, because a lot of people don't want to kill them. I was like, I don't say kill them, but I don't know how anyone else is going to get proof of these things exist. If someone doesn't have a body, but right, just knock him down and get some photos of him and some video and then run for your lot, get back in the car before it wakes up. Fair enough, All right, Well we're gonna roll on out here, So thanks ed, thanks for listening. Remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, Stay curious, stay open minded. Thank you all for joining us on this journey. And until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the end. 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