Second Look Sunday: Ep. 11 - The FE Theory

[00:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just turned around and I pulled ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_03]: They had proper seat at the coal, it's one of the things that turned me away the quickest

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_03]: When I turned my headlights on, it turned and looked at us

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were going to risk

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I see an worm of light, it is just circling. These steps like it is waiting for me

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And it begins to tell them that he saw you off low, they're basically like what he taught me

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of a muzzle

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And those in the eyes, as soon as I made my contact with this thing, it don't wake death

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales, I'm your host, Brandon Wright

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Today we're going to be doing another second Look Sunday

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be diving back into Episode 11, the Flatter Theory

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: With my guest, David Wise

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: This was an interesting episode for me because when I first started to show one of the things

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought was strange where people believing that the world was flat

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Few years ago, that was something that seemed ridiculous to me

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way the world could be a flat plane, there's space, there's everything else that could be

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Explainable you have all these other things but when you start to go down that rabbit hole and you start looking into things

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't always match up

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So this is one of those topics that I find interesting because I'm not necessarily a flatter

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a flatter, it's an iron because I don't really know

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe in the science that there is space

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But I also question a lot of things, sometimes the flatter theory kind of makes a little sense

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it's hard to explain

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: This is also the episode that caused me to get a little bit of attention on YouTube

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Which was not the greatest of attention because ever since in my show it's kind of been non-existent on the old tube

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that because of the topics that we've discussed?

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Possibly, I'll lay it up for the listener to side and as always make sure to check out all the other episodes of 10-foil tells

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And I definitely appreciate you guys checking us when out again too

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't had a chance to listen to it, we're gonna dive on into it now

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So sit back relax and enjoy the show

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to welcome our guests today, David Wise

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Now some might know of David as Flatter's Dave from the Flatter's podcast

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But welcome David, definitely appreciate you coming out today and talking with me

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I expanded love having these conversations with people that are at least curious

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Rather than just locked in a heliocentric prison

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm definitely one of those people that are keeping open mind to everything

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I used to, I was sorry, I used to

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Think of myself as an open mind and person I did at conspiracy podcast called Deep inside the rabbit hole

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And when Flatter was brought up to me, I immediately banned those people for life from even commenting

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd ask them to stop watching my podcast or listening to it

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're too stupid, I mean the idea of a Flatter, of course we know that there's a globe

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't until Sofia Smallstorm, fellow researcher friend of mine

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That she thought to her if was flat and made me, made me force me screaming and kicking to watch some videos

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That started putting a lot of questions in my head, so go and back to you

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I've always kind of wondered just from the horizon perspective, like you don't really see

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I've been on airplanes, I've looked out the window and everything and you don't see the curvature

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But, and then you talk to someone else

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone talks about it being like scientific related to this and that but he started actually looking into things

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of that doesn't make a whole lot of sense

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm not on one side or the other right now

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just kind of split down the middle, like I've got a lot of questions basically

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well here's the thing and I'll get back to the horizon in a second

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Once you start asking questions and actually thinking

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You barely quickly but for sure

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Become a globe skeptic to save a leaf

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the more you dig into it then you realize you're a globe nire

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And what are the other options?

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The earth is a level horizontal plane

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Which we describe as flat flat is not a shape

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So, once you start looking that's all, I ask people don't believe anything I say

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Go out and verify yourself because that's what I did

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I know and it just watched a video and they all were like this flat, interesting

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I went out and recreated the stuff that I saw and saw it for myself and did the measurements myself

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But getting back to the horizon, you know we look out over the water

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We see our horizon, what is our horizon? Well the horizon comes from the word horizontal

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's where the sky apparently meets the ground

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we're told that's, you know that's good that's going over a ball

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's not true because if we're on a ball of specific dimensions

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They tell us 24,900 one miles in circumference

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: There is a physical

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Horizon at a certain distance depending on your height

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That's at six feet tall standing at the edge of com water

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a color horizon should be a three miles away because there's a six foot drop

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't be able to see the surface of the water beyond three miles

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But we can we can see it way far beyond we can see things that should be hundreds

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Thousands of feet below the curve but with today's consumer optics and our naked eye

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: We can see things too far. It's people just never put the numbers together because the guy at a bow tie lies told you

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Boats go over the curve

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's absolutely right if we live on a ball which isn't possible

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: About would disappear over a physical horizon

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's not what we actually see when we go and look

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It leads me to another

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Question I've got written down

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Why would

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Those in charge

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: This like under wraps like what is of all the girls governments and all the worlds entities and everything else

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Why is this for the one thing that they're all in unison on that they don't want anyone to know about

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's two things the whole world is in unison on one is nobody can go

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Independent leaks lower the lens that we call Antarctica the outer lens on our flat world

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing is that all the countries all together in lock steps

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody must get the Jimmy jab and you know to fight the boogie man and they

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You know two things that everyone agrees on everything else they're fighting on

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So when you actually start looking into why nobody can go to Antarctica, you know that supposedly

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Admiral Bird went out there and said there's land bigger than the United States

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Filled with resources that no human or animal is ever set foot upon

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, wow a desolate barren land where you don't have to display anybody there's no environmental concerns as far as you know animals the place

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know replacing them or displacing them sorry and

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Filled with resources that the world is fighting over and then all the world signs onto a treaty that says nobody can go there

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody can explore there and we'll can even ask questions about it. Okay, that's that's a problem that's a huge problem

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So what was your question that I was trying to get to and I kind of sidetracked

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Basically how are all in units and the train keep it hidden yeah, so yeah, and then that's going to lead to why the lie

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But let's save that for a little bit later because the white ally is the most important one because you know a smart person when they're when they're having their heliocentric beliefs

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Gangped out from underneath their feet

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: One by one and very clearly they throw their hands up and just go a little wider the lie. You can't imagine this many people

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't even keep a blow job in the White House secret. You know how they're going to keep this you'll billions and billions of people

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, conspiring for what purpose this is the number one question and it is no it is

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: To me one of the

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Things that proves like wow

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the most important lie they have this is the one that keeps us in check. So my point well is if you walked into a room

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And a little grizzly example and there was dead bodies butchered all over the place very in front of you physical evidence

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: They're all there you don't go

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't see a motive. I don't believe it, you know

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to look at the evidence look at the evidence first and then figure out the motive

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So people love starting with little wide a lie. Let's look at the evidence first and then let's figure out motive

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let me make sense. Yeah

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So like if people wanted to actually start looking into this look for the evidence where were they need to start it

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, so there's another big clue is whenever you search flat earth

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't get the results that you should be getting you get the state run propaganda

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You get the bunking channels. You get the paid anti-flatter there's channels like if you there's a great video called and it's very unique name had millions of views a

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Strangers guide to flat earth 21 questions pretty unique name

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you search that exact title and it's been uploaded many many times with the original channel

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's still up. I'm it will not show up in your feed you will get professor Dave you will get Simon Dan

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll get all of these anti-flatter if there's a just gas light and make fun and try to you know talk and funny voices and make you know

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, they basically just straw man and gas light our arguments they say all things that none of us say and claims

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the trap the weaker minds from looking any further you Google flat earth. You ended up at the flat earth society

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, flat earth society infertile bomb a mention it six times during his presidency

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have time for a meeting of the flat earth society he said right many times he said that

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And the reason is they want you to go there because the flat earth society is a government run misinformation side has a little bit of truth

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But then it has a bunch of crappy claims that will just make you get lost and tired and and confused and then you'll just give up looking

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So where can you go?

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: My website is flat earthave.com I have YouTube channels I have Instagram channels I have TikToks depending on what your flavor of media is

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I also have a different relation to site. I have the flatter app challenge

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I'll tell you about a second, but I have the flat earth crash course all on there for free and I also have a three dollar app

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's called the flat earth sun moon and zodiac clock app. I don't expect you to remember that name

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Just go to flutterthegave.com

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And that app is just go either reviews don't buy the app just go read the reviews because

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It is the number one way that people are waking up. They'll someone like after after they she might be like wow, I need more information

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me get that for you all around and that way all of your questions are answered there's a frequently asked question page

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a more information page there's models of the map. There's there's all sorts of videos

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: There's everything is on there including what I call the flutter friendfinder because when you

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Realize that the world is flat you may lose a couple close relationship some people may not be ready to handle it

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a problem and they just need their time

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But it'll show you all of the other flutter thers that have the app that are near you and we just hit I think 76,000 people that are on the friendfinder over 300,000 downloads

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Adds one of the highest rated apps in the app store and the friendfighter you just tap on a dot or you can say hey you know what?

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to Joe's bar and grill on Saturday at 4 o'clock. You send out a radius message to 10 kilometers 50 kilometers

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And you say hey I'm having a little meet up at Joe's bar grill Saturday 1 23 main street

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: 4 p.m. and then everyone in their radius will get that message and they could show up and now you have little less friends

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's becoming a dating app right because

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Every dot on there is a

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like-minded person awake aware, interesting

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful person and I- it's called the friendfinder because every dot on their mail if you mail has a potential to be your very best friend

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: There's already babies being born because of this and I'm honored. I'm blessed to have been able to create this thing and they could better and better over time

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's a long feel but that's where you find the information free on flutterthave.com or get the app so you always have it in your pocket

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So when you're actually talking to somebody you can bring up images like what do you mean the earth is like a pond

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Right and then you show them the Antarctic basin and how Antarctica surrounds the world

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean extraterrestrials are coming from the outer space?

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the outer space is the lands beyond Antarctica. There's old maps there's stories

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: There's all sorts of stuff about lands beyond Antarctica

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's where you get the information

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that you mentioned like the whole space and everything else

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen a lot of different theories involved with flutter where people think that we're in a globe something we're not

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And space isn't real, the moon's not real, this is not like

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Where is your stance? Like what is your stance on stuff like that? How do you feel?

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so great question and when people say prove to me the earth is

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But I like to do things that we can test measurements see ourselves

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Anything above the highest we can get

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Which isn't very high or beyond the shore of Antarctica is speculation

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's fun to speculate and there's tons of evidence and proofs that

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the things that we're talking about are most likely true

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But we don't really need to go that far

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But let's talk about space

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Space is scientifically impossible

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And the heliocentric world, the globe world

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We live on a rock that is surrounded by water

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is surrounded by an atmosphere, high pressure system

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is adjacent to a void of vacuum of space

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, a no pressure system that is scientifically impossible

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely 100% impossible, now the globe is will say

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, the atmosphere gets thinner and thinner and thinner until it's space

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's ridiculous

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's because gravity is holding the atmosphere down

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and so the simple experiment you can do is to add a draw a little picture in your mind

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So you have a glass box, a nice big glass box

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And inside that glass box you have another glass box

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And that glass box, the smaller one inside is filled with air

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And it has a little remote control trap door on the top of it

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's in there

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So now we put it in the big box and we suck all of the air out of the big box

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So that is the space zero pressure

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_00]: What happens when I press a button and the little hatch opens on the top of the little box

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's filled with air

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you and I both know the air will immediately equalize through the entire system

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Well what happened to gravity holding that air down into the box

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Just like it's holding it down on the earth

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolute nonsense once you absolutely look into it

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: The other problem with space is sizes and distances

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: We all know the model of our solar system

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The sun is gigantic, thick to earth, this tiny, another planet

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Are there, if you look at the meme that they show us

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: If the sun was a yoga ball, right, a big yoga ball

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The earth would be a small marble next to it, right? You with me

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Redden, yeah I'm there, I heard

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you got the small marble now imagine imagine in the middle of summer

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a new time and I move our sun to one mile over your head

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the roughly over your head, one mile

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You look up it's going to fill the entire sky

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You get that yoga ball on top of a BB with about a fraction of a millimeter difference

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're standing on the BB, while the whole sky is literally the sun

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Then I move the sun 93 million miles away, that's what they tell us it is

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And now it's reduced from the entire sky to the size of a coin, held at arms length

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's how we see the sun, that's so big and it's so far

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So if I doubled the distance to that sun

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: How much smaller would it get, right?

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And I say two small to see but let's say, you can still see it so let's double it again

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So now it's four times as far, let's be safe, let's double it eight times as far

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Eight times as far

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Measured in light distances is a light hour because they tell us the sun

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Is eight light minutes away from I made it eight times as far that's 64 minutes a light hour

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So the sun at a light hour away it's probably too small to see

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's just be a little safer, let's make it

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: 24 times farther, so now it's a light day away 24 times farther

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's already too small to say there's no question that you can't see it

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: 24 times farther is a light day

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So how can I prove that we can't see stars?

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Well NASA tells us Polaris, our north star is 48 times bigger than the, than our sun

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So if I made it 48 times farther than I just made the sun so 48 light days go around up 50 light days away

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You could not see Polaris, it's less than two light months

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: They tell us Polaris is 433 light year is away

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot fathom the discrepancy there you cannot fathom it

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So how the hell are we seeing Polaris and that's not even paying attention to how light spreads out and gets weaker and weaker

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And literally stops you can't see light when it's too light source really far away because it gets so dim you can't see it

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So the idea of seeing these small and big and all these different stars when they all looked like they're the same distance and set in the sky

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're supposedly in this heliocentric b-hive

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything's moving in different directions, but the stars never change, go out tonight

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Take a picture of the stars from a certain position in your yard, save that picture put a note in your calendar to do the same exact thing next year

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And compare the pictures every single star will be in the exact same position

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, meanwhile we've corkscrewed through space traveling 4.4 billion miles from where we were last year

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And do it again in 10 years, there'll still be there 44 billion miles, can't even fathom that distance

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, that heliocentric space is scientifically impossible

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So you want to talk about aliens, I think you guys talked about aliens a bit

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine there is a we're lucky enough that the closest star has a planet that has advanced aliens that want to come here and visit

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The closest star is 25 trillion miles away, that's 4.5 light years

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: 4.5 light years 25 trillion miles

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They have to travel 25 trillion miles to come here and crash and Roswell

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So first, how far is 25 trillion miles?

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: While we've heard trillion inch, you know, we're in trillions of debt, you know, there's all this stuff

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_00]: How long do you think? 1 trillion seconds is just to give you an idea of how big a trillion is

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: How long is 1 trillion second ticket guess?

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: There.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Think, just take a while guess, probably over 100 something years.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: How do yours? Very close, 31,000 years.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let that sink in. 1 trillion seconds is 31,000 years

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you were going to spaceship traveling at a mile per second, which no one has ever gone that fast

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, for 31,000 years...

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We are now one 25th of the way to the closest star.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you starting to understand how ridiculous this is?

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Get to see it.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the things that I've always thought about too is when they talk about

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: the distance of space.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_02]: To me, actually, this conversation was somewhat

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: last week and they got pissed off with me.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But I said, it doesn't make any sense that the distances are so far.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And we're seeing supposed light from these stars from it takes years upon

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_02]: the years, thousands of years on some of these just to get here.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_02]: We think that that star should even be there anymore, but we're still seen in the same spot

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_02]: because...

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're like, well, it's not...

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: There's that white.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The light's basically coming.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: You're seeing it in the past.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I said, yeah, I get that you're basically looking in the past.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything you're looking at now happened millions of years ago, supposedly.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's still just getting here so that star could have erupted and exploded.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And we'd never know until like millions of years from now.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: That's my view since.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: My answer to that is, cool story, bro.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they tell us, you know, our son is gigantic next to our Earth, but

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Beetlejuice is a thousand times bigger than their son.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And then, um, airy is like a million times bigger than Beetlejuice.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: How come we don't see stars all different sizes in the sky?

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Are all the biggest ones farther away from us and the smaller ones closer to us?

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So they all look like they're the same size.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they tell us that son is forward to time's bigger and forward to time's farther

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: than our moon.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: That's why they look like they're the same size.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, they look like they're the same size because they are the same size.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They're here.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They're smaller within our atmosphere.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't ask me what they are because that's a whole other story.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Again, can't reach, can't touch.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: He had measure, can't even tell you the proper shape of them.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So these distances are impossible to get to that nearest star if you were going 100,000 miles

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: an hour, it would take you 28,000 years.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Nons and that's the closest one.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The other ones are magnitudes farther, magnitudes.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Now that scientifically impossible flying through into a space vacuum, you know, what's

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: a part of time there was nothing.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It exploded became everything, cool story.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And then all the rocks started sticking together and all of the gases somehow started sticking

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_00]: together and they sucked in more and more gases until they were so big and there was

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_00]: so much gravity that they turned in nuclear furnaces and they left a void, a vacuum

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: in between all of the other stars and all of the other planets.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But somehow their gravity is holding on to each other.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So now we have burning balls of gas in a void, in a vacuum that's just ridiculous.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't make any sense.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're holding onto each other in this gravitational model that no one knows our best

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: super computers can't model more than three bodies.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You what three bodies is a two body system, you know, orbiting any size, you know,

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: masses, they can predict what it's going to do forever at a third body

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and into that system and the thing was into chaos mode.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can't even figure out three bodies.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, well, you know, I looked up last night and we had the lights in the sky that we call

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: the moon, Venus, Neptune and Saturn are all right next to each other.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what about their gravity is pulling on each other?

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Gravitational models are complete and total nonsense.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you can model them somewhat.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't get past, you know, two bodies but three bodies becomes chaos.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So that the whole idea of that is insane, scientifically impossible now.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's look at the flattery model.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: When you look at a puddle, what a puddle is where water accumulates in the low spot

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: in the land, right?

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It rains all the water goes to the low spot and it accumulates there

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: and it will remain a puddle because the land around the outside of the edge of the water

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: is higher consistently than the puddle.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Now transfer that into a pond which is a bigger puddle and the lake,

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: which is a bigger pond, right?

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: What holds the lake in place?

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: What stops the water from flowing away and that is the land that's consistently higher

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: than the surface of the water.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Now expand that out to the world's oceans, our ocean pond, right?

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We live in a giant pond.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Water is at rest is measureably testably scientifically,

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: probably flat, level, horizontal.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And at the edge of our pond is the highest land in the world.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they call Antarctica, okay?

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even sure if Antarctica completely surrounds us.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that there might be hundreds of thousands of miles of more ocean beyond where they tell us Antarctica is.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Now you can go off of Santiago, Chile and to a sightseeing trip where you see any sites.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You stay on the ship, mostly.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: To the little tip of Antarctica that they show us that is close to Santiago.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But that could just be a continent.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say five times bigger than the United States.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: How would you know that if you're a global lever, you think it's the continent of Antarctica.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're a flat earth believer, you think it's the ice wall that surrounds us all the way?

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what if it doesn't?

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: What if it's just another continent?

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And if we went a little bit left or a little bit right, a couple of thousand miles,

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: oh, more ocean and we can go farther and farther and farther until we find another continent and another continent.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: On my on the app, if you go to the images section,

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and go to the maps area, there's an old map that was found in a Buddhist temple in Hawaii, I think.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: That showed a map from 10 centuries ago, and it shows, I think 30 or 40 other continents beyond the 80th parallel,

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: where we call, we say that's Antarctica at the bottom of a ball.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So again, that speculation, we just want the right to explore.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: We want airships back, airships were all over the place in the 1800s, giant luxurious helium airships.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? And we had airships back, of which they purposely took away from us,

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: they demonized hydrogen with the Hindenburg and NASA, the fakes at NASA, not a space agency,

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: they control all of the helium in the world.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It allowed just enough for party balloons and good year blimp.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you want to open up a gradual, you know, a legitimate flatable company, you can't,

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: because you can't get the helium. There's always a little helium shortage, right?

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you had that, a solar panel and a fan, basically you can go anywhere you want and not worry about fuel.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So again, we want the right to explore, to prove the Earth is flat, we can do that right here from where we stand,

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: without leaving the ground, we can measure.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And the measurement show us there is no curvature.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Every test done in scientific, you know, through time by credential scientists to prove axial rotation

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: or curvature has failed and proven the opposite.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I look along, we're at, sorry.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was thinking while you were talking,

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_02]: has anyone that's been on the flatter side ever tried to attach some sort of like a camera or something

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and actually shoot a homemade rocket up to where they can get passed, like to see if there's a curvature of the higher up they go or they've ever,

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_02]: is anyone ever tried to do something like that that you're aware of?

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So there is, you know, to launch your rocket, you need permission from again NASA.

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so there was the red ball jump in, not jump.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I read it, read it, but the jump, that's another one. That was one of the balloons we talked about in a second.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But they did the go fast rocket in Arizona.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And it went up, supposedly 73 miles and it went straight up really fast.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They gave us two camera views, one on the side looking out and one looking down.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And the rocket was spinning really fast as it went up for stability.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And it went up really fast and all of a sudden it hit something.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It went kerplunk and it made this like noise like dropping a rock into a pond, right?

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it floated very weirdly, right?

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of different theories on what's going on there.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I personally think that hit the level where the firm amendment was starting and went into a thicker plasma field.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? But the most interesting part of that one was when the camera, when it was floating around and kind of twisting around,

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_00]: it got a shot across the earth and we could see the moon, right?

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So think of the map, think of the globe, Arizona.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: If you'd spawn the globe where Arizona's on the top of the ball, right?

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Where that was took off, the 73 miles is like a fraction of a millimeter over the surface of that globe,

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: where regular, regular sized globe.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And the moon was over Australia, which would be underneath the globe.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_00]: How to help did that camera see the moon if we live in a heliocentric world?

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the answer is it's impossible to could know.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So it saw across the plane.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is we have sent up ourselves many balloons.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They get up to 120,000 feet.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It is flat. The earth is not spinning a thousand miles than our below us.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And we see amazing things. One of the things is we launched a balloon at nighttime in Arizona.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was super clear tonight.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We had the camera spacing up, 4K cameras, it's looking up.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And before it took off, we could see amazing stars.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We could see the Milky Way, everything.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And so as it gets higher and higher away from light pollution and a polio moisture.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And above the moisture deck, it should get clearer and clearer.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But what happens?

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: 50, 60, 70,000 feet all the stars disappeared.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird. That's not, you know, ask me to explain that.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I give you some theories, but ask me to explain that in a heliocentric model.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Makes zero sense.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no, there's no explanation.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So you have to throw out the heliocentric model based on that alone.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The other one was that you're familiar with is the Red Bull space jump where Felix,

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Bumgartner, whatever his name is.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: He went up 127,000 feet and then parachuted down.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And a couple things happened.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: One, they did two test jumps before the one that they televised.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: They had them with regular cameras.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And on those, the footage from those which is hard to find.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So a flat level, I love all, you know, apparently I level horizon.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But the ones they showed us then from them were all with GoPro's with fish silences.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And they had ridiculous curves.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The famous picture where he's like, you know,

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You could see it at the curb of the earth and you look at the earth.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you zoom in on the earth.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all land.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And you look at the rivers and valleys and everything.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, that's all Arizona.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, New Mexico. Sorry, New Mexico.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The like a, like a third of the earth is New Mexico.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's clearly a fish island.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Clearly, right?

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But another thing happened is when he jumped,

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: his parachute wouldn't open.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't open until like 50,000 feet where the air got thickened

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: off to open his parachute.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's important because when he started looking at NASA and their stupid helicopter

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: on Mars, right?

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Mars has 1% of the atmosphere they tell us.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And 1% 1% right?

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, at 50 at 127,000 feet,

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: we have way more than 1% of what we have down here.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? And his parachute wouldn't open but on Mars,

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: they can fly helicopter and we could land a spacecraft using a parachute.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: All nonsense.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all for the non-thinking people that just want to,

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that have to work.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: A very little time.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They watch the news and they believe what they hear.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've never believed that we're actually up on Mars

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and how I don't even think we've been to the moon.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think all that stuff was spaked years ago for some reason.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it went so far that the moon and Mars are fake.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not physical places.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Mars is a light in the sky.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Where are you looking at?

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: What's they, or where are you looking?

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in Indiana.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You're in Indiana.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully it's clear tonight because tonight when the moon comes up,

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the Saturn and Jupiter are going to be right pretty close to the moon.

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll be a little behind the moon.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Go out if you have a zoom camera or binoculars, look at Jupiter.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, it is so bright right now.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It is crazy and look at it.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's literally like a little piece of the sun in the sky.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Now you have to believe in the heliostentric model.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We're told that we're seeing the sunlight reflecting off of these planets.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why we see them.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But this thing is literally the brightest thing in the sky other than the moon.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You zoom in.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You can see the four other little, little moons around Jupiter but there are other lights or luminaries.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But you have to think about this.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_00]: If you were on Jupiter, let's say you're standing right above the gassy surface of Jupiter.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're looking at our sun.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Mollar Sun is way, way, way farther away than we see from the earth.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So therefore it would be smaller.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So you have a small tiny close to star sized sun that has to light up your gassy,

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: non-reflective surface and then reflect that all the way back to earth.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Ignoring the universe, square law light which is every time you double the distance to a light source.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's one quarter of the brightness.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we look at it and see it as bright as the friggin sun.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, it doesn't work.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is people weren't taught to think.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Think things through.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: They were taught to memorize and regurgitate.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people just when I just said, our loss.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't hear it.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_00]: If you got lost on what I just said, rewind and listen to it again.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't have a tiny, that's like, am I at a basketball?

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're in the middle of a pitch black field.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And I had a flashlight, a mile away.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Pointing at that basketball.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And then behind,

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: off the distance away from the basketball,

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that light is going to bounce off the basketball.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to be able to see the basketball and it's going to look right as bright as the flashlight.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_00]: That's impossible.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Totally scientifically, probably impossible.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm never understood how the reflecting light from this,

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_02]: that theory never made sense to me in general just like,

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: oh, you can see the play and that.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You can see this.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I was reflecting the light from the sun.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But if it's a rock or a gas, how's it reflecting?

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Look, the reason you never understood it is because you have common sense

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and you're refusing to replace it with man-made nonsense.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay?

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We're all born with God-given common sense.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And they indoctrinated the crap out of us in school.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The first worksheet that a kid brings home from public school

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: is the orbits of the sun and the moons and the planets.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's literally one of the first worksheet I kid brings home.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are they in pounding that into their head?

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Then the kid goes home and he watches Sesame Sheet,

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: whether they have on Sesame Sheet, they have Werner,

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: they have NASA, they have astronauts on there,

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: they have all sorts of stuff.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all mind-programming.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a Nazi scientist that said,

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I give me a man, give me a kid for the first seven years of his life

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'll give you a slave for lifetime.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what happened.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So when you bring up flutter to people,

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: the more violently they react to you,

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_00]: it's because the more indoctrinated that they are.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want their world to leaf ripped out from underneath them.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And they ended it by the way.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I was very close-minded about it.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But when I was forced to look, everything changed.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And what differences I make it makes all the difference in the world?

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I've noticed just from looking into these groups on Facebook

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and trying to ask questions,

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I would think they would be more,

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_02]: well, come into people with questions.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But instead they call you a glog-tard

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: or this like, I was like,

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: well, that's not very enticing.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And have someone come over your side if you're already in salt to you.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so let me help you with that.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of things that are going on in there.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: One, there is, there's, there are teams and teams

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: of paid or possessed anti-flatter trolls.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's been all over the time.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I do tons of interviews and it's hard to keep track of when they're all airing.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But the trolls find them before I do.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I should hire one of these guys.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, hey, when you find one of my interviews,

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: send me the link, you know,

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'll pay you $5 or something.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, because these guys spend all of their time

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: rolling my videos.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll come and say,

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Dave's a grifter.

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to steal your $3 for his app

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: so you can use for the rest of your life, you know?

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you want me to buy around the drinks?

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, buy around the drinks.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But don't buy us $3 apps, right?

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Say you get for the rest of your life if you don't piss away.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And they'll say all of these things

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_00]: but they never offer a single globe proof.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you go look at their channels,

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_00]: there's nothing on them.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They're empty channels.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Empty.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I call those the globe proof channels.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Those are filled with all of the globe proofs

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: because there are none, right?

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is there's flat earthers out there.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: That are just so passionate about this.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're so tired of the trolls

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: that if you go in the internet and ask a flat earth 101 question

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: which everyone is indoctrinated to the ass of the same thing.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: What about seasons?

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What about sunsets?

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: What about sticks and shadows with their estatones?

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: What about drinking water on an airplane?

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: What about, you know, gravity?

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They sometimes get a little overzealous

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and they assume your troll and they attack you.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And that happens.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I've done it too.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm trying to be careful not to do that.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's another thing that happens.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why my app, the flat earth sunman and zodiaclack app,

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: you can find out at a flat earthave.com.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Three, break in dollars.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It will show you.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It'll answer your questions.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Every question you have, what about southern star trails?

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: What about other planets?

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Are all scientists in on it?

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Or are all pilots in on it?

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Why the lie?

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: What about ships over the rise?

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And what about seasons?

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_00]: What about there's everything?

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: They're all on there.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And if new stuff comes up, I add new content all the time.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it'll link you to videos that YouTube will not show you.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That are still there.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It'll link you.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We're soon going to switch off of YouTube and we have another platform.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But right now, you know, we're using YouTube because everybody has the YouTube app on their phone.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And it works within my app.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And it just makes it super easy.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And people can watch it on their app.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they can go on their computer and it's in their history.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And it all works beautifully.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So check that out.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, you don't have a smartphone, which is, you know, I'd say most people do.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Just go to go to my website, fledertive.com, scroll down to the Fledareth app challenge.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing, nothing, the Fledareth crash course.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And turn off Netflix for a week and watch those videos.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And I guarantee anybody, you watch three.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The first three, you will never believe in the global again.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Garanty.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_02]: For someone who has been basically told their whole life that we live on a spinning ball through space.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to talk to someone because again, I'm on the fence one where the other.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I see the plausibility of Fledareth.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of stuff that you've said and a lot of stuff that I've looked into makes sense to me.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_02]: That makes more sense than the other globe theory, the space theory because the distance is in everything.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: My mind, I don't know, maybe I have a mental block, but I just can't comprehend the stuff that they say with distances and the traveling.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's, you can't comprehend it because it nonsense.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So I've always questioned, I want to believe that there is space in this matter.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to believe that everything I've been told was true, not a lie, but at the same time it's not.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Fortunately and unfortunately it's not.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But once you wrap your mind around it, think about this.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: We all love space and Star Wars and Star Trek and all that idea of the other intelligent life out there.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Fledareth kills outer space, kills alien, okay?

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, everyone's waiting for disclosure. Well, disclosure if disclosure was coming from the closest star, the closest.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So when we're talking about a little while ago and they're traveling at a ridiculous speed, they'll be here in 20,000 years.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So just sit tight, the disclosure is coming, okay?

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of scientifically impossible space versus if we live in a pond, think about that.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a small representation of what the world might be like.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Go to Kansas, very flat. And we have a lake 25 miles around.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, it's a nice big lake, right?

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And the center of that lake is a, uh, a tall, big gyron, right?

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a magnet, it's a giant magnet.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Well now I'll have to the lake.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_00]: My compass points towards the center of the lake no matter where I am.

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So if I try to go east or west, I'm making a circle around the lake.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Now if I'm 12 miles in the middle of the lake, 12 miles from the shore, 12 miles from the center,

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_00]: 12 miles from the middle of the quarter of the way across the lake.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And I try to go east or west, I'm going to go in a circle.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to see land on either side, but it's too far away to say flat.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Going to feel like I'm in the ocean and I'm going to go west and I'm going to end up, if I drop the buoy in the water,

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll anchor a moring and I go west.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make a circle and end up right back at that moring.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thinking going in a straight line because I'm going in a circle.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what east and west are circles on a globe, on a flat map,

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: a flat or world, the same thing.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Now if I head towards the center of the lake, I'm heading north from any point.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And if I head towards the edge of the lake from any point, I'm heading south.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Because my back is to the north, so I'm heading south.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So I turn my back to the center and I sail and also I see land.

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And I get to the edge of the lake. Now, I don't fall off in outer space because it's land.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I climb up out of my boat.

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I get up on the land and I start walking.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? And now I walk, this is smaller model of the world.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? Our world pot is a 25 miles or come for clay.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I walk on mile away. I can't even see the lake anymore.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I walk another mile, another mile. Let's say I'm 10 miles away.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, I come across another lake.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I go out on my boat, I grab another boat or I drag my canoe, whatever.

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's other islands out there, other continents.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And the center of that lake has a magnetic center.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a light in the sky that we call the sun.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It circles around that center, just like it does on our flat earth.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? I've just gone to another world. I just went to Mars, the Jupiter, to whatever.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The Pilates, whatever you want to call this pond.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It's another world with other people.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? And then what if there's 100,000 of those lakes all across your earth?

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, that is scientifically possible for a zim possible.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_00]: The disclosure is just thousands of miles away, not trillions of miles,

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: which does a making sense. Okay? So that's a possibility.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Extra terrestrial from the extraterrestrial, from the outer space.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It makes a lot of sense. All this stuff they're talking about.

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They've made it big and long. Right?

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They tell us that other worlds, other planets are these ridiculous distance away

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_00]: when a planet, a planet, is a piece of the plane.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Another little pond on the plane is a planet.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's much closer. And they tell us about the big bang. Listen to this.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The big bang, there is an explosion.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, these planets appear.

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's the primordial ooze.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And then lightning strikes and creates a one-cell organism.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And that cell divides and divides and it kind of looks like a tadpole.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Then it grows leg. And then it colors like a monkey.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it becomes a human.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we're here and that's over billions and billions of years.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what did they do? They made our solar system.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the other planets at huge distances and huge amounts of time

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_00]: when it was really close and small. And right here,

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_00]: well, think about the creation of a human being over just nine months,

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_00]: not billions of years versus a big bang.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? And explosion.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's the spark of God that creates the life,

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_00]: the cell start dividing.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_00]: They turn into a tadpole.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: The human fetus looks like a tadpole.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Then it grows legs and it kind of looks like a monkey.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And that is born. It's the same friggin' story.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And the person that came up with the big bang theory was a Jesuit priest.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? They're just taking the story of creation,

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_00]: which is short and local and small and fast and stretching it out over endless time.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: None of it is true.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_00]: None of the Heliosentric model nonsense.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Big bang. Evolution. None of it is true.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They're just telling you the same story of what's going on here.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Big bang theory to me never made sense because

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_02]: basically they're supposed to be nothing in existence,

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: but they're apparently our gases will create the gases that cause the explosion.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_00]: How about the Magellanic clouds?

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever way they say that stars are born, they show us these nebulas.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? What's a nebula? It's that dust and gas in space that turns into stars.

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_00]: How do you have dust and gas in a vacuum?

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was hearing it says.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if it's a vacuum, it shouldn't be dust or gas,

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: because it's supposed to be nothing in its vacuum.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They're laughing at you because they say stuff that you can't verify.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_00]: They say with confidence, the guys wearing a tie to bow tie, who lies.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And tells you this stuff.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's nonsense. Absolutely.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And total nonsense. They tell us we have a molten magnetic core.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if anything about magnets, when heat them up, they hit the curie point before they melt.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's where they lose all their magnetism.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Maltent magnetic core is like saying military intelligence.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a misnomer. It doesn't make any sense.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You kind of touched on this a little bit earlier,

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_02]: but I've always thought like when you see the supposed photos from outer space,

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever, you don't actually see anything black.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_02]: When they landed on the moon, you didn't see anything in the background.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It was just black sky and they claim it's, I don't know if it's supposed to,

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_02]: our atmosphere traps the light from all these trillions of miles away.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But you can't see it to the naked eye even though you can walk on the moon supposedly

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: because there's no gravity, but there is no atmosphere.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, none of it makes any sense.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: None of it makes any sense. They, you know, we should, the stars should be so bright from the moon.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the, the, the conversation from the guys that allegedly landed on the moon

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_00]: should have been like, oh my god. Look at the earth. Oh my god. Look at the stars.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my lord. Look at the stars. It's so bad. He is so bright.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They shouldn't have been able to look down once.

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It should have been so mind-blowing.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But they say, oh well, the aperture on the camera couldn't adjust to see the stars

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_00]: because the moon is so bright. Well, the moon didn't look so bright.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like a dusty dirty gray ball.

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we, we've taken our crappy phones here.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_00]: One of our, one of our guys in Thailand and anybody can do this.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He stood under a street light with his iPhone 4 and filmed stars behind the bright

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_00]: feet light showing you that aperture, you know, is fine.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You can see stars, right?

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he's showing you that look, yeah, there is little aperture, just on, on, on, on a, on a camera.

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But that excuse doesn't work. The reason they don't show stars on the moon is because they can't,

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_00]: they can't figure out how to do it where we couldn't debunk it, where it, it makes no sense.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So again, when you say, I am unable to, I never was able to understand, well, you don't want to understand nonsense.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? You understand that it's nonsense.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So you do understand, okay? And if they will, I don't have a degree.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_00]: A degree is just an indoctrination.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I took four years of astronomy in college. I was awesome at it.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all nonsense. It's all, this made up nonsense.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I looked at the light and the sky and it, oh man, that, you know, those rings are made of ice

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and this and that, it's all made up.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It's nonsense.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's, honestly, to stop, say, if it's nonsense, what, it's honestly just someone's guessing,

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_02]: because no one's ever been there to verify. We're just listening to what someone tells us what they think it is.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we're supposed to accept about anything.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? People just made up made up stuff because one book told them and they like, oh, well, I, this and that,

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's all unsported nonsense. And the people, what about, what about the amateur astronomers?

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They're looking up their seen lights in the sky and they're believing what they were taught that they are.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? And reality, those lights are here, they're local, they're small.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_00]: They're part of the living Earth. Right? The Earth is alive.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_00]: We're alive. All of the things on Earth are alive. Everything was alive. Everything.

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And the lights in the sky are sentient in my opinion.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Now, kind of jump back just a little bit. You'd mention, with an article in Admiral Bird and everything,

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: that also ties into what people consider the hollow Earth theory.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm done a little bit of looking into that as well.

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it all, instead of being a hollow Earth in the flatter, I think it all is,

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the concepts are similar as in, instead of being hollow like you sort of just an extended plane.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So here's my take on that. Again, I wasn't there but I'll give you my take.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Admiral Bird went out and said he saw more land bigger than the United States.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They needed something to keep people trapped on the globe. So they said, oh, let's make it a hollow globe.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And he found the conspiracy, found the hollow Earth, right? If you believe in the hollow Earth, you're trapped again on a globe.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The globe is a prison for your mind. It's the matrix. It's one that keeps you limited.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Stop sure thoughts from expanding outwards across the plane.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Stop sure understanding that there's abundance, right?

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no food shortage. You can take an old seed to kind of ground water.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll fall from the sky. The most precious substance on Earth will fall from the sky.

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And food will grow out of the ground, right?

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But people rather spend all their time making their lawn perfectly green with poisonous chemicals that make them sick.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? When they could use their front yard to feed the whole neighborhood.

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And so there's no food shortage. Overpopulation, fly around the world, fly across the country. It's empty.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing. They're lying about the number of people on Earth.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? And even if they're worried, billion people, that's nothing.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It's nothing. They could all live in friggin' Australia and a half of Australia would be empty.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? And that's if you believe the size that they tell you Australia is. It's bigger.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? There were, they have us afraid of asteroids coming in.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? Keeping us in fear. Astroids don't exist. Those craters that we see come from within the Earth.

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They're methane craters. There's different things that happen across these craters.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not rocks and ice falling from the sky.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They're keeping us in fear. Right? Because they don't want us to know that we're the creators of our reality.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want us to know that our minds create our actual reality.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Our thoughts create our things. Look at your life. Everyone listening to this. Look at your life.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's 100% your fault. Okay? It's the way that you think. Right? Good or bad? You know, you think of bad thought.

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You're attracting that into your life. You think good thoughts, you're attracted to your life.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_00]: People, they want you to think that you are powerless.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They you need the government, the government control, meant your mind, government, your mind.

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? They, they, you need them and that they have the authority to give and take your God-given rights away.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So they do not. They only way, they can take your rights away as if you agree. Right? Everything in this world is an off.

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? Everything from a parking ticket to a lease to sitting down on the restaurant, everything is an offer.

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything and you can step these offers with conditions. You can't just say no, you can't just ignore it. You ignore it. You're saying yes.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_00]: If someone says hey, I want you to stick this in your arm because of this and that and because we say so. You say okay, I accept your offer but prove to me that all of these ingredients have been tested alone and together and cause no damage.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? That's a, that's a perfect counter offer and if you don't what I'm talking about they're never going to do that.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So again, we have free will and they don't want us to know it. They don't want us to know that there's free energy here. Imagine is that your electricity and your fuel for your car was free.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So in the summer, you can heat your house to, oh, you can cool your house so there's icicles coming off the ceiling and then the winter you can turn it into a sauna.

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And you can crank your hot tub up 104 all the time and leave the top off of it because it doesn't matter and you can heat your pool and you could drive your car wherever you want cause you never need to refill it.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine if that technology was available for the average person would that free up your life with that matter to you.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? What if they have technology, you know, old world technology that curses you from all this ease.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That's when you're not at ease when you're in fear mode, your body that this ease and what if they had technology that could make you live a lot longer.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? With that matter, okay? Why does flat earth matter because flat earth on winds the heliocentric mind matrix?

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Once you unplug from the flat earth, you can now see through everything. Now I tried to wake people up to other major disruptions New York Boston Connecticut, right?

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And they they yeah, yeah, okay, but you know those people are going to be gone and you know well there's a new administration.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, when you wake someone up to flatter. They all of a sudden wake up to everything. They all sudden can see everything. So on my app, um, as you're going to friendfighter look at all those blue dots those are amazing beautiful people.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And those are the people that you want to network with and my app helps you find guess what your next or neighbor is awake and aware but you never discussed it because you were afraid to.

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, now you got to blue dot you message them bam. You now have a new best friend for life right? And they're all around just go look at the friendfighter in the app. It's mind-blood.

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Check out my YouTube channel which is at flutterthave.com. There's tons of videos showing showing that stuff and showing more of what I'm talking about here tons of freestyle listen people the number one common.

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get Dave's a griff theory trying to sell you an app don't buy my app. Go go try to find the information yourself, you know spend all the time you want it. You're times not worth three bucks.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know that's fine but there's tons of free information on my website flat earthdave.com.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I know when you go to YouTube and even when you just try and Google literally almost everything that pops up is trying to disbonk flutter. There's little disclaimers that pop up and some of your videos all of them.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't find hardly anything unless it's someone disproving your videos.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they won't come up like what when I said search for a specific name it won't show up. That's why on the app if you stay well what about seasons right and you go to the seasons button and you watch a video the next video that comes up after that will be another awesome seasons video and the one after that and the one after that.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I tell people if you're a flutter, they're get the app and watch the daily video every day because you just get smarter.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you think flutter is stupid take the flutter, tap challenge get the app every day there's a featured video shows up at 801 80801 Eastern and AM and just watch every video.

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I do short ones during the week usually longer ones on the weekend sometimes not even that long and just watch one a day for two weeks at the end of that two weeks guaranteed you're going to not hear.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty much going to know that you're at the in the globe where you're least going to have some major questions if you still think the earth is a globe after that send me one proof of the globe just email me one proof of the globe and you win three big clients.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but before you do make sure you hit the frequently asked questions make sure you're quite your your y'all claim isn't already answered in there and if it is watch those videos and go on seasons make that makes absolutely no sense actually seasons prove the earth is flat.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Now to globe we were told the otherwise I never thought about it the way you just explained it to me so.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That alone that that's right there alone is worth the three bucks on the app but take that challenge lay in the three bucks because every person that has taken the challenge has become a flutter ther so if you're not willing.

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_00]: To lose a couple friends.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Please separately.

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you think the earth is flat don't take the app challenge because you will become a flutter ther.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have too many friends to worry about at this point some I don't care.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well that that you know what that's a it's a blessing in disguise.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But quality friends is not the number of friends and matters you need one quality friend and there's so many people over the years of flutter ther said I feel so alone I'm in a middle of nowhere.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have anyone I can talk to I go out to parties or bar whenever and it's just like people are talking about matrix nonsense right you know and it goes to it's so difficult then they go then I got at the app I found five people right on my my neighborhood you know or you know my city and we meet every first Sunday and every month.

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_00]: We started a telegram group you know boom new best friends and now these people have completely transformed their lives people are finding other like minded people that's what this is all about.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what every dating sites about finding a like minded person well guess what if you understand the global I and our work and on flutter.

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You're also awakened aware to many of the other exceptions and you have a way of thinking that is.

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a category we call the flutter research category well every blue dot on that screen.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Will it is literally a better match for you than any dating website or friendship website could ever do because that person already has more in common with you then.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You can deal with there's so much right so the potential of every one of those blue dots becoming a best friend significant other good friend whatever is 99%.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing else does that.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah again it's hard to find people that are on the same wavelength of certain things because.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That would be app.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I've always been one of those people is kind there are all your conspiracy like you believe in conspiracy just not know I just question a lot of stuff.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But you believe that you're more men can get together and conspire for their own benefit what is wrong with you.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Right so.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay well I think we're about up with this time limit here I've got so.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I do have the like I said the final question was actually because I've asked around and the biggest question that I had to ask was the whole why so if you got the time to.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah yeah that you have me that I kind of when over it's why the lie is because this is about control when you wake up to flutter.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You understand that there's more right there's options that you're not under control right when you when you wake up to flutter you all the fear gets taken away.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're not running out of food we're not running out of land we're not running out of energy where there's abundance everywhere we're not there's there's more more places to go and explore.

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_00]: There's energy technology that they don't want us to have right our history is a lie in the app under the web button you go to mudfledz tataria that will take you down rabbit holes that will blow your mind go to the home schooling section on the app.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So much stuff there you can basically get rid of your cable television because you have so much content coming out here.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So why the lie it's about it's the only way they can control us because once you understand that you're in a prison which is the globe right if I put if you add a higher as a pet and you put it in your yard you're fenced in your yard he's going to pace around the fence and want to get out.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So that you say you know what I'm going to put him in a mile enclosure he's going to see that fence is going to be like like the hell is going on the other side of the fence you put him at a 50 mile enclosure right you got a me.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That fence that he's going to go at is going to turn around and go the other way is not going to care you put a human in there human sees a fence I don't care how big it is 25,000 miles around they want to see what's on the other side of that fence because that's the nature of a human being with so they want to shut us down they want us not thinking not using our minds they can't so far up by the other land they don't want us.

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And wanting to explore because we are here to expand the mind of the creator we are part of the creator we are part of the creation we are the beneficiaries to this creation and they want you to think that it just happened from a big bang or nothing turned into everything in a random spark you'll turn into a human over millions and billions of years of evolution that's nonsense were here to explore and expand.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And now flatter takes you there and now you know so many people said they were pressed for long periods of time and after they found flutter that depression went away the pressure is because your soul the true you is trying to talk to your conscious mind but the area too lost in your ego.

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The propaganda the news with a steer your mind north east west south news is an acronym for steering your mind right and they don't want you they want you living in fear right you turn on the news what he see put in going to blow us up with a nuclear bomb then you find out nuclear bombs don't exist.

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh that's it Dave you gone too far nuclear bombs don't exist yet nuclear bombs don't exist here is she in managasaki were big TNT explosions three days later the trains were running the sandwich shops were open the flower shops were open people were back to work yeah there was an explosion there but it wasn't a nuclear bomb okay and now if you want to learn more about nuclear bombs in the app.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Under the homeschooling section there's the crotriple seven radio.

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Um button hit that an episode zero five three and zero and four hundred if you listen to those two episodes that's four hours listening.

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That you will absolutely know nuclear bombs don't exist and every time you hear someone on the news mentioned nuclear bombs instead of every selling your body becoming this easy.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: They become hysterically laughing that guy's a clown everything you just said is full of the bloody and and it literally lifts your spirit and takes you into ease health happiness freedom from the he'll center matrix.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll definitely be checking out the app and I do encourage everyone out there that has listened to do the same but again David I have definitely appreciate coming to the out today it's definitely a pleasure little bit of eye opening so.

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: All right Brendan thanks and if you use a image for a thumbnail do not use a desk floating in space because that's not what flat earth is.

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Not a problem. All right, thank you, David.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Brendan thanks, Bencia.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Bye.

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the show everyone for the help you guys enjoy the conversations if you would like to be a guest on 10 foil tells remember to send an email to 10 foil tells podcast at gmail.com or go to the contact section of 10 foil tell dot com to get your message to me will get some schedule for future episode and just remember the truth lies in the stories we share the connections we make.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Stay curious to open minded thank you all for joining us on this journey and until next time keep questioning keep seeking and keep exploring the unknown.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Good night everyone.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't fear season for like a story in a book.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Me and control trying to keep us by the old people going to use them online.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: In this three they want us to know the secrets they hide to they want to show.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know some science they keep us in chains.