Tinfoil Tales: After Dark - Ep. 2

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[00:00:19] And I just turn around and I hauled ass out of there I was I was done I wasn't dealing with that

[00:01:26] Hello everyone, welcome to 10 Foil Tells After Dark. I'm your host Brandon.

[00:01:27] I want to thank everyone for coming on here tonight, hanging out with me.

[00:01:33] We have a special guest co-host tonight.

[00:01:35] You guys might know him as Eric from Uncomfortable.

[00:01:39] Eric was kind enough to come on here, be my co-host.

[00:01:42] We're going to bring him on now.

[00:01:44] Hey Brandon.

[00:01:45] How you doing?

[00:01:46] How you doing?

[00:01:47] Doing well, doing well. experiences with everybody and anyone out there listening, if you guys have questions or whatever, just make sure to ask and we'll try and get those answered for you. And if you do have something you'd like to share, you can send me a message on there and I'll be able to pop you on the screen and you can share it on there if you want to do that too.

[00:03:00] But we're going to go ahead and bring Ryan on and get this thing started.

[00:03:04] Hey, Ryan. the I always enjoy telling it again. I was actually a house sitting for a friend. He and his wife had gone on vacation for a while. So I was being that good guy. And I would go and check on his property, make sure everything was okay. And I would do morning, afternoon. And the last time I would check is at midnight, late at night. And what happened is I went one particular night

[00:05:40] and as I'm walking up his driveway,

[00:05:42] I can hear all the coyotes around me.

[00:05:44] I mean, they're loud as can be,

[00:05:45] but they sound really anxious.

[00:05:48] They're nervous. subtle growls, a soft growl. And when I heard it, I thought maybe, you know, bear, mountain lion, something along those lines. So again, I'm posturing up, I'm trying to become big and bad and trying to scare whatever it is away. And I yell out into the night again, hey! And a few seconds pass, it's silent for a few moments. And then all of a sudden I hear a very loud

[00:07:00] and very close growl.

[00:07:02] And this growl was so strong, I could feel it reverberating

[00:07:04] in my chest, like my bones don't know what this is. I don't know why it's here. So I'm going to stop and not do anything. And you know, it's just, it keeps staring at me, but I see its ears going up and down and its head is tilting side to side. Like a dog does when it's curious, you know? So I'm not even sure what to do at this point. You know, I'm like, do I run? Do I try to grab something? But there was really nothing to grab.

[00:08:20] So, you know, I'm just kind of standing there like an idiot.

[00:08:23] And this thing charges forward about three feet

[00:08:26] and it just, it was standing You could see the claw marks from where its feet was stuck in the ground So that was my dog man encounter Hmm Did you see like how big it kind of could have been compared to something else Yeah judging from the tree that was underneath. It's about six and a half feet tall

[00:09:44] It's a lot bigger than I am five ten six. It was more like a knuckle. It was definitely more like a knuckle crack. I would say it's maybe a joint popping into place or popping out of place. I mean, I even theorize maybe it's their feet adjusting to the weight. You know, maybe as it goes from the quadruped position to the bipedal position,

[00:11:01] its feet, you know, have to gain more of the balance.

[00:11:03] And that's why they they pop out.

[00:11:06] What was what was the face like?

[00:12:07] No, the only thing I see on my is got like for the 10 full tells Facebook page, it shows a exclamation point.

[00:12:08] So this is not streaming.

[00:12:10] Oh boy.

[00:12:11] I don't know what's going on with that, but clearly it's working on YouTube and I think

[00:12:16] it's working on my normal Facebook, which I don't know why it's on my normal page.

[00:12:20] I wanted to stream from the 10 full tells page.

[00:12:23] Oh well.

[00:12:24] Facebook. And it's so unusual to a bipedal canine makes no sense biologically. No, there's a, there's a lot of things out there that I could understand, like obviously a Sasquatch doesn't that, but a canine should not be able to walk like a human. There's no, no, there's no precedence for that. No.

[00:13:40] I've seen dogs hop around on their back legs and walk around on their back legs, but they

[00:13:44] don't look like a person.

[00:13:45] You can totally tell they're not meant to walk on their back legs.

[00:13:48] Right. um, vertical and erect, or did it continue to maintain its, its forward posture? He was kind of curved. Like he was kind of stooped down. He was holding onto a tree branch. He was kind of like stooped down. You know, like he wasn't sure if I entirely saw him or not, or if he was maybe getting ready to run. Yeah. Brandon wasn't, didn't you see something very similar in the, in the thing

[00:15:04] that you saw on the road, isn't that the way it presented itself as well?

[00:15:08] Yeah.

[00:16:03] I mean muscle wise it was more like a like a basketball player I know a lot of people see those really buff ones

[00:16:06] But if I had to make an analogy at all, it was more like, you know, a basketball player is very live

[00:16:11] They're very lean, but you could see where there were muscles though

[00:16:15] Well like the hair on it was it was it patchy? I mean could you see skin through it was it?

[00:16:23] No, no, there was no skin. I could see it was all just covered in fur

[00:19:04] that I'm not a hyenas can walk on their hind legs. Well, no, I've never heard of them doing so, you know, so it's a very strange thing to have seen, you know, it's not something you forget too easily. Where did, and I think even Germany was working on trying to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way that that doesn't what about it's what about its front it's its front paws or hands what were they more did you were you able to see that did you notice yeah I'd say they were more like raccoon paws like the fingers were there but the fingers weren't as long as ours were they were kind of stubby you know kind of like maybe here is where the fingers ended so they were stubby little fingers

[00:21:42] they weren't you know long human fingers that's the same thing because werewolves are humans that turn it. I'm just saying the general depiction is a humanoid looking canine.

[00:23:01] So in the 1700s, I think it was, didn't they have the

[00:23:04] werewolf trials in France?

[00:24:08] So, and Anubis was very much a hundred percent a humanoid humanoid body with a, with a canine head and face. So, I mean, that wasn't even like a blending of anything.

[00:24:12] So then there was the stories of St. Christopher, I think it was where he had the dog headed Saint pictures and paintings and everything else too, which I always thought was strange.

[00:24:22] Why would they paint a Wolf or dog head on a Saint for Christianity or whatever? Uh, you know, uh, a newspaper of the time and then people just became hysterical and thought, you know, this has got to be what it is. I think it could be a little bit of both. I mean, I think some people were, you know, trying to relay what they had really seen, but I do think that, you know, hysteria did kick into a certain extent as well.

[00:25:45] I want to try and get this Facebook working. on but my body's going, yeah, no, we're not going to do that. You know, it just logic wasn't kicking it, you know, and I think in a way, maybe logic was taking hold because if you run from something gets predatory, it's going to give you chase. You know, bears will do it. So I think maybe it was just a total of five minutes. I don't really think it was even long at all. I really, really don't.

[00:27:00] So saying that like at the point that you did decide to leave

[00:27:05] the area. How did you leave? I think it went down there and it just kind of worked its way to wherever it came from. Is there a lot of mountain areas where that was? Yeah. Oh yeah. We were surrounded by mountains on all sides. Yeah. Okay. And what's really interesting to note though, is there is a lot of abandoned mines in that town.

[00:28:23] So getting ready to ask, is there any caves or mines or anything in there?

[00:28:26] Oh yeah. I mean, we had plenty of mines, cause it was a mining town. So, you know, there was plenty of mines that were there that were abandoned.

[00:29:23] pale crawlers were definitely most definitely a thing.

[00:29:24] Absolutely.

[00:29:28] That's what I've tried to say to some people, but I'm not an expert or anything about it.

[00:29:29] I was like, I just, I've heard about those before the rake was ever popular.

[00:29:33] Yeah.

[00:29:34] Yeah.

[00:29:34] I mean, the Dover demon could be considered a pale humanoid, you know?

[00:29:37] And that was way back what in the sixties or seventies, you know?

[00:29:41] So early sixties.

[00:29:43] Yeah.

[00:29:43] So that predates the rake by years, years and years and years.

[00:29:47] So I do think there was go spelunking, but this movie definitely makes me not want to go spelunk. Yeah, I stayed away from caves for a long time after watching that movie, man. I saw that and to pass. So that was a great movie. It was, it was fantastic. It's going to be hard to top the first dog soldiers. Even when they make that sequel, it's going to be very, very hard to top that. There was a lot of, uh, I just thought.

[00:32:22] Bombs are good.

[00:32:24] And so there's a lot of good suit work on that nowadays.

[00:32:26] Everything's so CGI that it wouldn't look as good.

[00:32:28] Yeah. She was a makeup artist and she designed the Gill Man. So, yeah. You guys still hear me? Yes. Yes. For some reason my camera shut off. Yeah, you were glitching out a little bit there for a minute. And we haven't even started talking about entities yet. No. Uh-oh. I said that all the power on this camera completely went out.

[00:33:44] So Bryce Edwards, I see your comment there about the crow. I was just gonna bring that up.

[00:34:42] Um, but don't mess with it.

[00:34:43] Leave it alone. Yes.

[00:34:43] It's perfect.

[00:34:45] Yeah.

[00:34:45] The new crow looks like a joker, man.

[00:34:47] That's Heath or a jar of lido's joker right there.

[00:34:50] Yeah, kind of.

[00:34:51] Yeah.

[00:34:51] He looks like I keep thinking he's going to be one of these new, uh,

[00:34:56] mumble rappers, like what the machine gun jelly.

[00:35:00] Wanna be.

[00:35:01] Yeah.

[00:35:02] Yeah.

[00:35:03] He's got the whole, uh, can't think I keep thinking of, uh, extensions.

[00:36:05] But it kind of looked like him because it did. Yeah, now that you bring that up. Yeah, I had no idea scars guard is like six seven

[00:36:08] You that's all that tall. Yeah

[00:36:11] As

[00:36:13] Never would have got that from watching it

[00:36:17] Just never came across that way. But yeah, wow big boy

[00:36:21] First time I've seen him was in a show on Netflix and I can't think of what it was called

[00:36:25] But he was kind of like a vampire. There's but he said, it was like a humanoid type thing.

[00:37:41] And the way he's describing it, I was like, it looked like this.

[00:37:44] And he said, it was almost like spot on.

[00:37:45] I was like, well, that's what a window go supposed to be.

[00:37:47] Actually.

[00:37:47] Yeah.

[00:38:46] And you know, nowadays it trickles down to Minnesota, but yeah, it was all a tribal belief back in those days. And not a lot of people focus on that part.

[00:38:49] Mm hmm.

[00:38:51] What else is there that you've kind of come across that let the audience know about?

[00:38:57] Well, I mean, the whole Wendigo phenomena itself, it's actually pretty terrifying because you'll get the story of Swift Runner, you know, and it shows, it's when it starts taking over your consciousness. So I'm not a hundred percent familiar with a lot of the when to go lore. I've only heard bits and pieces and I originally, all I ever knew was the Antler headed when to go. Cause he was even if you type up when to go, that's one of the first things you see.

[00:40:21] Yeah.

[00:40:21] Unfortunately.

[00:40:23] Like the actual depictions, you don not supposed to actually know what they look like because it almost not so much like a curse, but if you see one, like it comes after you. So someone said they changed the depictions of it.

[00:41:41] So you don't get like haunted by the wind to go.

[00:41:44] I said, I don't know.

[00:41:45] That was like a Reddit thing.

[00:41:47] So who the hell knows? Yeah, but yeah, they did it. They did a good job. I mean, they held, they held pretty close and pretty accurate to, you know, what we know of the oral traditions. Yeah. I thought they did a, I thought they did a really good job. I mean, they held true to it.

[00:43:00] You know, I mean, once the creature. I think I think it was 2008. There was a weekly TV show called fear itself and each each show was kind of like kind of like the X-Files was there was no overarching story about UFOs, but each each episode each week was about different something or other and there was one it was called Skull and Bone comments that gets it on interviews. They I've already had an episode banned. I've already gotten a couple of warnings. Really? Wow. That didn't take long. No, this happened a little over a year ago. Someone said something about what happened during 2020 and all

[00:45:43] the red flags came out.

[00:45:44] Oh, oh my.

[00:45:47] Yeah.

[00:46:46] And the jacked up part of it is that I've had, I've had some negative comments left, uh, in reviews and what, what the idiots don't recognize is that it's the guest that is saying

[00:46:56] the things that are inflammatory.

[00:46:59] Yep.

[00:47:01] You get blamed for it though.

[00:47:02] But they, but they blame me and it's like herd. Whether it was supposed to be released or not, whether it got out accidentally or not up for debate. Right. But if you go back to the first three months, Brandon sitting there like,

[00:48:20] goddamn it, this is gonna get taken down. Go back to the first

[00:48:25] three months. And you look Medicaid Medicare Baby boomers man, they were they were eating it up. They were taking it all you know, and I really it would not surprise me to find out that there was

[00:49:46] Some some Tom fuckery going on there, but it wouldn't be surprising whether it was intentionally

[00:49:48] but let out a But if they can walk themselves out of it, good on them. And then my listeners get to determine whether or not they think this person is straight or not. Pete Slauson Hey, you're just doing your job the right way in that case. John Del Vecchio Yeah, and I just, I can't bring myself to be, I can't let my personal thoughts out. I don't know, maybe it's a weird little

[00:52:07] one show. That doesn't mean anybody else is right or wrong. I think people listen to other types of shows to hear those things like what Brandon was talking about.

[00:52:15] I'd say you're right on that. The way I go with mine, there's a lot of things that I've talked

[00:52:21] to with people about that I'm not 100% believing what they say. Not that I think they're lying,

[00:53:23] it'll come out probably like two or three months from now, but

[00:53:28] The guy said he could walk in front of a security camera and it wouldn't pick him up

[00:53:30] So I asked I was like, can you still do that?

[00:53:34] He said he thinks he can look I would like to see that I'm pretty sure everyone that's listening is gonna set the bullshit because well, you know what they say outstanding claims require outstanding evidence

[00:53:41] Okay, so if somebody makes a claim like that

[00:53:43] It's your job to call their bullshit and say hey if you can do that

[00:54:43] kid at six years old sending through space and traveling all the way back to earth.

[00:54:49] Like if you can control time and you can do all that, what do you need us for? You can do whatever you need to do. You don't have to continue to make clones and put alters and

[00:54:53] everything else. So to me that it doesn't add up. Like none of that makes any sense.

[00:54:57] And I've had a few people on here that talked about that. I've had a few more that reached

[00:55:01] out to me and I've kind of been hesitant to even bring them on because...

[00:56:03] got to feel it out, you know, and really see what you can, you know, call from it. If you can get some truth from it, good for

[00:56:05] you. You know, that's what you have to do as a show host.

[00:56:08] You know, you made the comment, you know, their truth. And I

[00:56:12] think there's some legitimacy to that. You know, I think, you

[00:56:17] know, as a host, do I have the right to question their truth?

[00:57:27] that I believe that they've had a significant event or experience in their life. Oh, but then, oh, go ahead.

[00:57:33] Oh, you want me to go ahead and answer the question.

[00:57:36] But then, then that's not just good enough for them. They have to embellish or they have to

[00:58:44] I don't believe that. And that's a rough one for me because I know my listeners are, the demographic of people

[00:58:51] that listen to me are not kids.

[00:58:56] They're not even in their 20s as much as they are in that 30 something to 50 something age

[00:59:04] range.

[00:59:07] And they're strange enough. Leave it at that,

[01:00:21] man. You know, you don't have to, you don't have to say that, you know, you know, I tore

[01:00:25] the wall out and I found a Ouija board questions, but it's possible though. If it's the same person that I'm thinking of, I interviewed him and he's on one of the episodes of episode 37 or 38. If that's the same person that Bryce was talking about, cause that's, I think we're all talking about the same person here. I'm pretty sure.

[01:01:40] Oh, probably.

[01:01:42] Pretty sure.

[01:01:44] That is a, again, it's like I wasn't there.

[01:02:46] That's kind of where I go back to what I'd said earlier is like, at what point do I take these episodes? I release them, but is it because of for the entertainment purposes of people are doing this or is it something that they really believe in?

[01:02:55] And I don't want to not air someone's episode because if this is what they actually believe happened, then I'm saying, well, I don't believe it.

[01:03:04] So I'm not going to air your shit.

[01:03:05] Well, you know what, Brandon, there's a certain way I can help you kind of decide if it's true or not.

[01:04:02] with me though, it's like, I think I take that kind of stuff personally, because I've spent so much time and so much energy, you know, spending time with the, the Nate people,

[01:04:07] the Navajo people that I fell in love with their culture and the people. So when somebody

[01:04:11] is saying, you know, Oh, Hey, I saw a skinwalker, but I'm over here in Kentucky. I'm like, really?

[01:04:16] You're going to try to lie to me like that. You're going to bullshit. You're going to

[01:04:18] use a skinwalker because it's popular when you don't even know what the hell it is. Okay,

[01:04:22] Jackass and whatever, you know, they look like deer this and that. So people think they're a cryptid and then they're getting tore up by everyone because they're like, they're not cryptid. So it's like, I didn't say they were, I didn't know the, I'm

[01:05:43] more of the quiet person.

[01:05:44] This kind of stalks around on the internet and just watches what I don't want to see any of it. I want to see a window go from the distance, a very, very far distance with a lot of people in between us. I'm perfectly happy talking about the shit. If I were to see anything, seeing a Bigfoot would be the one.

[01:07:04] And I've get me honest. We have Harley been hanging out here. We say he'll bring him on about 10 o'clock. So bring him on. He's had some recent experiences with some sasquatch and dog pants

[01:08:20] stuff down in the LBL.

[01:08:22] So there you go.

[01:08:26] You there buddy.

[01:09:24] A couple of months ago and I was like man because we're driving through I'm looking around like this is definitely a

[01:09:28] Prime territory for some weird shit to be done in these mountains

[01:09:38] You

[01:09:42] Sent me some photos and some stuff the newer things you've come across? Well, December 14th is actually when I had my second sighting. I took my wife with me. So what I do is I utilize a back trail camera, you know, like Scott Carpenter has

[01:11:03] done. I don't know if any of you are familiar with heard something moving up between the right and I was like, okay, so I hollered at her. I said, I'm going to ease on further in the woods here and see what this is. I was like, it could be a bear or anything. So I just wanted to see for sure. So I keep walking up through there and

[01:13:24] Behind me there was stomping in place like nothing was right behind me stomping So I just like hell with this. I said I'm going back to the mine. So I said, let's go

[01:13:28] I said I got too close so I and I was

[01:13:32] Definitely a lot closer than what my first time was in 2020. I mean it

[01:13:38] Maybe was probably 25 yards away from me. Oh

[01:13:44] Yeah, it was really close

[01:14:43] I go out two, three times a week and you know, I'm, I'm

[01:14:45] getting remarkable stuff. You know, I found egg structures.

[01:14:47] I found orchards.

[01:14:48] I found, I found something the other day that looks like an asterisk.

[01:14:51] It was like an egg and I had another one laid over right on top of that.

[01:14:56] And there's, there's all signs right in the gate, Milky

[01:15:00] Mountains, National Mark, part 20 minutes from my house.

[01:16:02] 50 to 200.

[01:16:04] Yeah. On that one.

[01:16:05] The one thing that seemed to be the most consensus was everyone saying it was a coon dog or a hound dog stuck in a tree and I was like,

[01:16:12] is that a possibility that these dogs can go up trees?

[01:16:17] But that, there was a lot, it's weird share my story, you know, and it's like, that's like I always say, at least to somebody else sharing their story. I've done it, you know, I helped somebody. Yeah. That's why I think I was one of the first ones to kind of

[01:17:40] talk with you before you went on all the other shows. And I even

[01:17:45] kind of told you that Harley, before you before

[01:19:00] you came in here, we were talking about people who have had an experience in their life, You're not being honest now. And the thing with Todd's standing is with the length of time that I talked to that guy, he says a lot of crazy shit, man. I can believe it.

[01:20:20] But I firmly believe he believes that is his truth.

[01:20:24] That is his truth. the the opposition that you will run into. You know, now if you're if you're posting pictures of a of a shrub with a red circle drawn in it, you know, like here's my thing like Dogman Facebook pages. You can go on any given day and you're going to see somebody post a picture of of a scrub

[01:21:44] brush with a red circle drawn in it. in the chat says the same with the UFO community and it is to some extent, but maybe I'm not in the right groups, but in Bigfoot stuff, my God, it's terrible. Yeah, I've had to leave so many groups, you know, and it's just all I want to do is see what people are talking about. So, you know, find out theories, find out, you know, you know, all it takes is that

[01:23:02] one thing that resonates with you that it's like, Oh, shit, I experienced that too. That's one thing, but if you're just going to go in there and troll and make up a story, and then you can tell which ones are bullshit because they get further and further and further into, and people ask questions, it just gets more ludicrous. That's where I start to question like, what, what is the, what do they get? Internet cloud.

[01:24:20] Okay.

[01:24:21] Like you've got like 15 different people commenting on your post and wow,

[01:25:28] us. But I don't see any CGI. And I've, I've messed, I've messed with video a lot. So, you know, and some software stuff. So I might have a little bit, a little bit of an edge

[01:25:33] when I'm looking at stuff like that. So in that I don't see anything that CGI.

[01:25:43] Here's here's the problem for me is there additional footage and other captures and other other things that, you know, it just gets mind blowing. You're not going to believe that freaking lucky three times. Doesn't one of the faces look completely different from the other one? All

[01:28:20] three of them look remarkably different. And in levying hammer fists on him and beat the hell out of him. That one looks dead like it would be a chimp from hell.

[01:29:41] It looked like a demonic chimpanzee face.

[01:29:46] Terrifying looking. less drought in Survivor Man Bigfoot, he contracted a company to make a set of fake feet so that he could try to make fake tracks. And his production company spent almost about $10,000 to get have to go back and re listen to that. You know, again, I go back to, you know, the guy spends a lot of time out in the woods. I'm sure decent chunk of money for just summer, but I don't know what else he does during his normal life. But think, think about, you know, his popularity prior to the release of that documentary was not what it is now.

[01:33:40] So, you know, was he generating that kind of income?

[01:33:44] Were people going out with him? a component of it. I don't know. Yeah, I can definitely agree with that. You know, you figured there would be some footage before he comes across those Sasquatch. You know, and it's just not there and that brings more questions. Even if it's not more nothing like that, you know, where was your first encounter was in 2020 and it was in Virginia, right? Pound of Virginia.

[01:36:25] You said that when you talk to the old guy, they call it the devil monkeys.

[01:37:45] I hadn't heard that before, but now, inventive. You know, there's always going to be the smart Alex in the comments. No, but it's, it was. They said you fake the whole thing because you made up noises. See, I think part of that, I think part of that is parasocial disorders that people have nowadays. You know, social, social media has become, and not only social conversation, but they lack having an experience. So they feel like they don't have anything to offer instead of just being able to, golden throat was another one. Instead of having, just having the patience to sit there and enjoy and learn from what all these other people are having to say,

[01:41:25] doesn't matter that it's a good relationship or a bad relationship. I'm interacting with somebody that is notable or noteworthy. And I think that's what a lot of these people

[01:41:31] are doing. You know, and then then you got the other component of people who think they're

[01:41:37] a fucking expert. You know, there's no experts out here, man. In Like, yeah, that's where I always come back to it. Like if you know all this stuff, but you can't produce any evidence, it's not evidence that your opinion and it's your opinion because you've made it up. So, you know, I had Jodi, Jodi Cook,

[01:43:01] I believe was his name.

[01:43:03] He was like the head of the Dog Man Project.

[01:44:04] all split up now. They've got, they just got their own each state got their own thing.

[01:44:08] I have an interview next week with a lady that I think she's the head of the Indiana one. I think it's next, it's either next week or the following week,

[01:44:12] but I know she's scheduled here soon. She's part of the dog man research for

[01:44:16] Indiana. So I guess they voted her on a year or so ago. It was like,

[01:44:21] I didn't realize they took votes for stuff like this.

[01:44:23] Like, what is, what is a researcher for dog man? What, I mean,

[01:45:24] You've studied things, you've read things, you've looked at what other people have researched. Cool.

[01:45:25] You're not an expert because there's been no proof presented to the mainstream.

[01:45:31] Maybe there is some stuff out there that we don't know about, put on the tinfoil hat, and I think it's all being covered up.

[01:45:38] But I don't feel like anyone out there on the internet is I know of a couple in particular that are they're literally label labeling themselves as researchers and that that annoys the piss out of me because that that gives people a bad idea of what we think we are. Yeah, they's, um, you know, it's just engraved in your mind. I don't remember like the, I just remembered it was on a Friday. It'd been my Friday morning. So when I went back and looked at like 2007, I was like, well, I had to been this date, that's the only reason I remembered it was 17 years.

[01:48:20] But if it wasn't for my phone and a calendar that can scroll back that many

[01:48:24] years, I wouldn't remember the exact date, George Lunford, who he's an author. He had never had a Bigfoot sighting. And him and another friend of ours, Robert Ecker, they came up here to this area where I've been researching and investigating. So we go into this area and Robert had his wife with him.

[01:49:42] I said, you two stay on this main trail.

[01:49:43] I said, me and George cut it was gone like that. I don't know if you, uh, I know you was going to try and give him on the show at one point, but I don't know if y'all ever thought it worked out or not. Yeah. I, I like interviewed George, his episode come out in a few weeks. I have probably enough episodes recorded to take me into June already.

[01:51:05] And I've still got like, that's why I've been debating it fled from you. You know, I mean, when it when it leaned out and we started running, it just turned and it was like it was it stayed behind the tree whenever it took off, like it just turned and went. But right up as we got to the tree where it was at, there was a moth and you could see

[01:52:20] the indentation of the toes from where it? No That's where the rabbit hole comes in you know Pretty firm on what I think they are, you know all the people that say they're eight

[01:53:44] Well, I think that's just a big load of bullshit

[01:54:41] to take it and do that. If it's, you know, it was, it was great.

[01:54:43] It made more questions than answers to me.

[01:54:49] Didn't you recently just put out like some peanut butter somewhere?

[01:54:53] Yes, I did.

[01:54:54] And, uh, I put that out on December 14th, the day that I had my second sighting.

[01:55:01] And last week, the jar of paint leather was outside.

[01:55:09] It was what? The, the dad had a public hunting land that was way back in a swamp mile and a half off the, nobody would go back there, but he and his, he and his brother and his dad and his cousin that had really good success there. So you know, they would, they would go there through the summer and they'd, you know, weed

[01:56:21] out the cutting lane or the firing because the one daughter and and I actually did this interview in their home in front of them we sat at their dining room table and You know, so I got to see Them in person eye to eye sitting across the table from them I got to see the wife who wasn't part of the show

[01:57:40] but I got to see her sit there and sit through two hours of our conversation and

[01:58:48] to her family and she took it as you came into our place and and you messed with our shit

[01:58:55] and now we're letting you know that we know where you're at and you know she was 20 years old

[01:59:05] and this is a somewhat religious family. I knew the guy from working in a school with him.