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And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Wright. Tonight we're going to be joined by my guest, Allison. Allison is a lifelong experiencer when it comes to which she believed to be extraterrestrials. Started from a very early age with a UFO siding with her family, and it's progressed ever since then. 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Hope you guys enjoyed the conversation. To sit back, relax and enjoy the show life. Take this time and welcome my guest tonight, Alison. Thanks for coming running and talking with me. Thank you for inviting me, Brandon, I appreciate this opportunity, not a problem. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself? Sure? So my name is Alison. I am Indigenous First Nations from the Big Stone Cree Nation, which is in northern Alberta. I grew up in Slave Lake, which is about an hour and a half from Wabisca, and I currently live in Edmonton, Alberta. So I've been here for the majority of my adult life. Yeah, and I have three sons. I was a very avid researcher back in the early two thousands. At one time, I was probably the only Alberta researcher at the time that I was aware of that offered support for those who were dealing with the effects of the post traumatic experiences of their experience of their abductions. So I offered like a calling service, and a lot of people called me when they were at their highest peak of anxiety. So yeah, I was interesting that I did that work, and I would have liked to have continued that on. But it doesn't pay the bills. No, I can't imagine. Do you want to let the audience know a little bit like of you mentioned you had like previous experiences like childhood experience or anything. You want to kind of dive into that and we just see where it goes. Sure, sure, so I've all start off with, like my family dynamic of it. So my grandmother had numerous experiences, uh, and some some of my some of my aunts and uncles, numerous cousins, and then our our children, my children, not specifically, but my cousin's children have been experiencing experiences still going through that. So I think during the time when my grandmother was having these experiences, she didn't really talk about it too much to a lot of people, but those of us who were aware of how these experiences follow the bloodline. This this is one of those cases. I don't know what really happened before my grandmother's time, if it continued before or when this happened, but I always wondered, often wondered if the residential schools in that era affected this, or they took a pause, or if it continued. I don't really know what happened before my grandmother, but she has quite a few stories. She never really did continue to tell her story. I was hoping she would have wrote a book about her experiences, but I guess that'll leave it to me to tell her stories for her. But what happened to my family and was in This was in wabasc Alberta, and I was October seventh, nineteen seventy nine. We had some relatives coming in from out of town that we're visiting. And I have two brothers, so I was seven years old, My brother Darren was five, and my baby brother Stevie, we call him Stevie, he was seven months old. And we had a relative cousin of mine who was babysitting us while my mother and aunt went to Slave Lake, which is where a lot of people did their shopping. So that particular evening it was dusk like, it was not that dark out. My mom and aunt had just left, and I remember sitting on the sofa which my back was facing the lake. So really this was a small Native community. There was no street lights. There was maybe some property lights. It was a gravel road, one way in, one way out of this community. So at the time, it was very I guess, desolate in a way, I guess. So when I was sitting on the sofa and I saw the lights that were shining their hitting sort of hitting the trailer walls, and I thought, well, where is that light coming from? So I remember looking out the window and I didn't see the lights coming down directly, but because the UFO was already right above the property coming down, I would say it was tree top level when I was looking up at it. And while it was coming down, there was an intense humming noise. The trailer was shaking violently, Pictures falling off the walls, things were falling off the counters and tables. We all sort of screaming. The humming noise was hurting our ears, so we're all plugging our ears. But I don't know if it was from the how loud it was, or if it was the vibration that was hurting. But I remember just all of us running and screaming, and one minute we're hiding under the kitchen table, and then the next my five year old brother was gone and we were yelling for him, trying to find him. We couldn't find him. It was a small trailer we're in and he was not there. The next memory I have is now looking out the window, and it was much darker, and the UFO was no longer above us, but it was across it was right. This was like front property, and the UFO was hovering above the lake, and you can see the outward light shining. That was like a belt of color I used to call it belts of color that circled the craft, and it was shining upward. But there was also a white beam of light that was coming from the middle of the craft into the water, and you could see the stream of water going into the craft. I wasn't sure at that time it was putting something in the water or taking water, but as soon as that was done, it was done with the white light shot right up to the sky and it was gone within like a split second. It was gone. Moments later my mom walked in and we were all crying and screaming and saying, mom, Mom, did you see the UFO, Because in my mind only minutes had passed. So where my grandmother's property is and to where the main road is, it's about probably a ten minute drive to get from the home to the main road to Slave Lake when you can actually see across the lake my grandmother's property. So in my mind I thought she had driven that distance, saw the UFO and turned back, and in fact she was gone for four hours. So I remember I said, Mommy, mommy, did you see the UFO? Did you turn back? And she came in with grocery, so I knew that she had been gone, and I couldn't understand it. In my brain. I was trying to fathom, like how did time speed up? Like that was the only way I could think of it at seven years old. How did time speed up? How come it's now, you know, this time of the night, when it was just five o'clock earlier. So there was a lot of time that was gone. So when my mom walked in the door, she was very upset to see the mess that was happening that was around the home, as I mentioned, like things falling off the walls and counters. And my mom was like yelling at my cousin's saying what happened here? What's going on? And we're all trying to tell her, but she wasn't listening to us, and so she picked up the baby who was struggling to breathe, and we're trying to explain to her, like what happened. But maybe she couldn't understand because I tend to talk fast sometimes when I'm excited, so she probably had a hard time understanding me. So when she had my brother on her shoulder and she was patting his back and she was she turned and when I looked at him, his eyes were rolled up, his mouth was wide open, purple lips, and his arms went straight out and his legs went stiff, and he started having a convulsion right in her arms, and she started screaming as well, and we all started screaming again. She told my cousin she was actually sitting in the corner of the home in the fetal position, like, she was not responding to my mom as she was calling her out, calling her name. So eventually, when all of us started screaming again, she snapped out of that trance or whatever she was in, and my mom told to go get Clara. What's my grandmother? But just as she was leaving, my grandmother was coming over to the home and asked like, if we're all okay, and obviously we weren't, and shed my mom handed my baby brother, who was now not breathing, into her arms, and she didn't know what to do. She's never seen a baby like this, stiff arms out and stiff legs out. And then of course the whites of his eyes were showing, and it was pretty traumatic that part as well, to see my brother go through that. Meanwhile, she's yelling at us to go to the next door. So we were all going next door, but literally my mother had to drag me and my five year brother dragged us because we did not want to go outside. We were so terrified of what was out there. I remember like trying to fight her to like pull back and not go in. But when we all went into the home, they laid my brother on the kitchen table and she sent us kids to the living room where my other cousins were, and we're all huddled in like just all holding on to each other because they had to witnessed the UFO as well, but they didn't know that we experienced something more than just them witnessing the UFO. We actually experienced that. So we were sitting in the living room with them, and my auntie was yelling, I can't get oxygen to him. He is not there's a blockage, And so she looked in his mouth and there was some white foam, thick foam at the back of his throat, and it wasn't like the typical saliva type of foam you'd get when he was having a seizure or anything like that. It was something different, and she couldn't really explain the consistency of it, but it was nothing that she had seen before, and she might have scooped that out of his mouth and his throat and then was able to get a passageway to get oxygen to his lungs from there, so he was not breathing. We're guessing about maybe eight minutes. And when you're everybody's panicking and we're all scared, and we didn't know if he was going to live or die. And eventually my grandmother and my auntie brought him back. She revived him, and when he started crying, we all were in relief of like, oh, he's back. And then so my mom and aunt took him into the truck and they drove back to Slave Lake, which was one one hundred and thirty five kilometers of dirt road at the time, so there was no hospital in Wabsca. There was a nurse's station, but they were closed at that time, so they drove him to Slave Like meanwhile, I'm at the house, the big house with the grandma, with grandma and cousins, and none of us slept that night because we had a big window in the bedroom and I remember like, there's no curtains, and we're all scared to look up in the sky. So the next day we were feeling brave, cousins and I and we started to walk around looking for any type of residue of what happened the night before. You know, it was fresh, it was fresh snow, a fresh blanket of snow, and we didn't see any tracks. We didn't see anything that would have made us think that they were walking around on the property. So after we were doing that, I can see my dad and Grandpa Grandpa. They were on a boat coming back from hunting. So they were coming back to the lake shore and I stood at the top of the cliff and I was waiting for my dad to come back. And because they were just across the lake, I thought they would have seen the UFO. And I said, Daddy, Daddy, did you see the UFO? Did you see it was above the property that you know above We called back groundmother a different name, We called her Jim Jum, So it's above Jim Jim's house. And he didn't know what I was talking about because I'm talking fast, I'm talking, and I said, Daddy, there was a UFO and the house was shaking, and I was trying to explain to him what was going on. But a seven year old trying to tell an adult, right it was, it was probably difficult for him to comprehend what I was trying to say until I said, Stevie almost died. He's at the hospital. And then he dropped everything, ran to the house, to my grandmother's house, and I just I chased behind him. I said, but Daddy, Daddy, there was a UFO. So he was released from the hospital and there was no determination of what it was. They just tried to make it up and say, oh, he might have had a reaction to maybe aspirin. Well, firstly, he wasn't given aspirin and he wasn't given anything that would have caused that reaction. We're still we're waiting for the hospital records for that event because my brother has to be the one to request them. So he's he's alive and well, and he doesn't have any memory of this. Of course, he's only seven months old. But and now that is my cousin, she was thirteen. She has no memory of the UFO encounter, but she remembers what happened afterwards when we're all panicking about my brother's condition and my my year old brother and I we have what I call chopped memory, and those kind of what he remembers. I remember, like the shaking of the you know, the him being gone. There's a lot of things that we have shared memory of, but we don't have recollection of what happened in those hours that we were gone. Do you think that they don't remember because they weren't actually involved with Like IM not saying like they you guys were like taken or anything, but maybe they're just weren't involved with it, so their mind just didn't doesn't accept it because you guys were the ones that actually you were involved in it. Does that makes sense? Yeah, that does. The baby was only seven months old, so he wouldn't have remembered anything at that age. Anyway. My cousin who was, like I mention, she was almost like she was in a trance and not responsive when we're calling her name out for her not to remember the UFO because she would have remembered running around running from the trailer looking for my brother screaming, running back and forth as we're all panicking because it was like an earthquake. I would have thought she would have remembered that at least, but I'll kind of share what happened. So I was. I met a lot of people through my life, and I call them messengers because it just out of the blue if someone shows up in my life, or I'm at a stoplight, you know, crossing the street to walk and someone wants to stop and talk to me. And this woman said to me, she said, dear one, do you really I give a UFO attached to you? And I looked up and I went, oh, no, if they found me And she said no, no, I mean in your life. And I said, yes, absolutely I do. And she said what I'm seeing and she said this to me. She said, what I'm seeing is that there were four of you and two of you, remember you're close in age, and there was a baby and a teenager who have no memory. And I said, yeah, you're talking about a UFO experience that I had and when I was a child. And she said, well, the reason why you and your brother can remember is because the memory serm that they gave you wasn't enough. The reason why the older one doesn't remember because they gave her too much, And the reason why the baby almost died was because they gave him too much. Whoever it was that took you with they were experimenting and they didn't even know how much of that serum to give. And I'm like, well, that makes a lot of sense. So it's hard to you know, put that into like to believe what she said. But it for her to just come up and see that without even knowing me, and she totally was able to see what had happened. And then her explanation of why we remember some things but the teenager didn't. I'm trying to think, like, I don't know what that would be considered. But when you say, like at the UFO attachment or something like, do you think that they without going too far into it, do you remember anything like later on, like the similar that like with beans or anything like that, like were they the same ones like later on? Okay, I have memory of a conscious memory. I've never done any regression, but my conscious memories. I have been countered several different types beings. And I was actually told that I needed to learn about energy because I needed to hone in my energy because you're like a beacon out there in the universe and you're attracting so many different types of anomalies and you need to bring that energy in. And that made so much chance to me as well, because she had nothing to do about knew nothing about my experiences. So that night of the UFO experience where the community. So this is the other thing too. The community of Wabsca was maybe two thousand people at the time, and people witnessed the UFO and it was actually in the local slave like paper and I've actually been trying to find the articles to it, but the Lakeside Leader and the Scope, that's what they were called. They wrote the story about the CuO folks witnessing people who witnessed the UFO, and so there was It appeared twice. Someone said it appeared around dinner time and it came back in the evening ten o'clock. So I really don't know exact timelines, but everybody who I spoke to and interviewed in Wabsca talked about the UFO appearing twice above my grandmother's property and our CMP were called. And as the RCMP went to my grandmother's home. A trail of vehicles of the community were following to come and witness, to come and see the UFO. So that alerted the newspaper guy and slave leg to do a story on it. So I slaveg had a big fire twenty eleven, and unfortunately all of his archives were burnt. What I'm waiting for right now is the slave Like Library's archives to get back to me to see if they can actually find the article on that event and what they wrote about I'm kind of curious. Yeah, that would be interesting to see where they had about it. What year did you say? That was nineteen seventy nine, Okay, and they are CNP were called. So I even contacted like our CNP archives, and nobody knew who'd have patched me to. We have no idea who to send you to. What would you say the shape of it actually was? It was sauce, Yeah, it was sauce or shaped and metallic. The belt of color, as I mentioned, that circled the middle the middle of the craft. There were like little squares square square lights that were shining outwardly and it circled the craft would be in one spot and the lights were circling the craft. And if I was to estimate the size, so my grandmother's properties probably about ten or twelve acres. From my grandmother's home to where we were, it was probably about outsand almost three acres. And so when I looked up to look out, I couldn't even see the sky. All I could see was the under carriage under of the craft, downer side of the craft. Well, it was really big, basically. Yes, and for it too, yes, and for it to affect like the humming was hurting our ears like it was so intense. And for it was a trailer, so it was like a two bedroom trailer. So it it's metal. So I'm guessing that, you know, the magnetic field of the craft was probably affecting the home, which is why it was like an earthquake in there. A lot of the vibrations just from the thing. Whatever energy it was putting off could be like you said, the magnetic vibe or and even the just the vibrations in general from someone hovering, know it makes sense. Yeah, So that's in two thousand and one. I was actually going to be doing a reenactment, a documentary. I guess what they were going to call it was a documentary drama because we're going to be doing reenactments of the event. I had it all planned out in two thousand and one. Space Channel wanted. It was called Space Channel then, I don't know but still is now. But Space Channel wanted because it would have been the first Indigenous story to come out of a UFO story APTN, which is a Canadian Indigenous station that always been around for maybe forty years now. They wanted rights to the story as well because the same thing, but it been the first paranormal UFO story that they'd be broadcasting. And so during this time I was working on the final stages of the project. So during that time I interviewed about twelve people and I got the same story from twelve people of what they saw that same night. And I was actually going to do the filming right in the community. I had all the resources to get this project done. I worked with actors at that time, I was, and so having those things that my fingertips made this project would have been very successful. However, someone or something did not want me to tell the story. And I if ever in my life of going through all these life experiences, if I ever felt threatened or afraid. This was the time because now my family was being affected, and they told my child that they would take him if I didn't stop what I was doing. My child didn't know what I was doing. He was three and a half years old, but we had shared experiences, and he told me, Mommy, if you don't stop what you're doing, they're going to take me. And so that was a really tough time for me, and so I stopped the project. I stopped everything and never did tell the story. Yeah, when it comes to shows and stuff like that, it's I don't know how all that works, but I feel like a lot of times, at least with recent stuff, I feel like a lot of things, when they get hold of it, they try to I don't want to say embellished, but make it more entertaining. So I'm always a little hesitant when it comes to TV shows or anything when it comes to putting out stories or whatever. But I can see where if something happened then they didn't want it to the story to get out there, I can see where it could manifest itself into making it to where it doesn't come out there. Yeah, I went. At that time, we had dial up in two thousand and one, and while I was on the final stages, I was actually in back then we had MSN Messenger, remember that, and I was chatting with somebody from Moufon and Vancouver, and I was needing more resources for this project. I wasn't going to let anybody hollywood it, you know. I was not going to let it to be I wanted it true, factual, and the way I was going to do it, and the people that were around me to film, my producer, we all were on the same page. We're not going to make this Hollywood film. This is a true story. We want this to be shared, so we weren't going to be doing any embellishment of anything. However, so while I was working on the project, I was getting this Emson Messenger file transfer. He was sending me a list of critics, because that's one thing. They said, we need a critic. I said, okay, I'll find a critic, and so I got ahold of it, move on, and then they did this MSN transfer. Shortly after that, my screen went red black, red black. My phone rang and on the phone display it says zero one, two, three, four, five, six seven eight nine, And when I answered it, it was just static, and so my screen shutting down, the phone's ringing, and I didn't know what was going on. When I turned the computer back on it, it was like a half an hour. I was not doing anything. Everything that had was a that when finally did come on, everything that I had on my desktop, whether it was a file or a file folder or an application, everything was just an empty filefolder on my screen. They totally wiped out everything. And also I had those eight and a half floppy disks in my computer. They even wiped that out. And my cousin was a computer tech guy at the time. We said, we don't even have the technology to do that. Sure we could, you know, we could come and wipe out your computer, but to have a disc in that drive and wipe it up, we don't have that technology yet. After that experience with my computer shutting down everything, my cousin got everything back up for me, which was great. But after that, I had a strange black car parked upside. My house. And this happened for five days in a row, this black car with two men in there, black cats, black suits, and just staring at my house the whole time. On top of that, so I'm looking at your background pictures and I'm trying to see if I could find a resemblance of what came to us. So the first day that the computer did this thing, my son and I had to share dream and it was there are panthers. I would want to call the maybe shape shifters, because these panthers were walking on hind legs and then they went down to all four big yellow eyes. And my son, the three year old, was mentioning that's exactly what he saw too. And so we had that dream like it was dream like dream state twice. And the five days of the car parked outside my house, I called the police to come and check. They wouldn't do it. I took pictures. Back then, we didn't have like cell phones right and picture cell phones. So I had a camera and I took pictures of that car the fly every fire every day from that of that time. And uh, when I went and got the film developed, they were all black. I couldn't believe it. Every picture that I took that car was black, blacked out. Strange. So did you tell type of a vehicle it was? It was a four door sedan. I'm not privy to knowing. And models. My son would have known because he's a mechanic now and he knew makes and models when he was five years old, but he didn't see the car because he'd be at school during that time. So yeah, I just know it was a pursedan. The two guys had the hats on. On the fifth day of that, I got upset and I put my shoes on. I went outside, and they drove off and I'm like, I know who you are. I'm like chasing them down the road. I know who you are. And you know it stopped because I then spoke to the ceiling and I said, Okay, I'm going to stop. And I said, but you need to leave me alone. It ends with me, It ends with my kids are not going to be part of this. And I just cried to the ceiling and like, you got to leave us alone this. I don't want my kids to go through what I went through. Yeah, now before we dive into more of it, So kind I ask with you, being like your family's indigenous peoples I've heard from I interviewed someone else recently, and I've just some things I've read and other things, But I believe that indigenous peoples are more connected to a lot of these experiences and you don't really hear a whole lot about it. But I know, like even the Hope Indians in Arizona, like they had the star people thing like from their stories and everything, but there seems to be a lot more when it comes to abductions. I think that are actually attracted to the indigenous peoples. I'm not sure if you're familiar with any. Of that, but oh yes, I've been doing research since two since nineteen ninety nine, and I tried to research the connection to indigenous peoples. And there was actually a documentary that was made here in Canada. I think it was Canada and it was Uphoes and the Aliens, and it talked about the First Nations connection. I truly feel a connection to the Hopi tribe and their belief of the Star people. In my neck of the woods here in Creek Country, we call it it's either a secret no one wants to talk about, or it's the same thing, or we're trying to explore and find out where was that disconnect. Because the Hopey really believe that we're star people and that we're put on this earth from them and we're here to protect the earth, and then yet there's other cultures that don't have any knowledge of that. I truly want to know where that disconnect happened for us here in Canada. I also have heard of some elders who are from the same area that I grew up in that have had sweats. Are you familiar with the sweat? It's is that the where they get into like the heated air of the rocks and. Like, yeah, yeah, So I've heard that a lot of elders had been sitting with the grays in these sweats, and that they say that the Grays were here to help us. And however, my experiences with the Grays I did not feel we're positive. So I thought, well, if they were to help us, why did they hurt me? Why did they traumatize me? Why did they continually take me? I can have to say, well, I'm still here. They obviously didn't abduct me and take me forever. So I realized that there must be your purpose or a reason why they returned me every time. Now, I don't have full recollection of every experience, but the ones that I have, I've been in a couple, I've been in two crafts that I'm aware of and the one experience I'm going to just back up a little bit. When I was eight years old, my mother moved us away from Wabasca because of the trauma that we had experienced with this experience, and we moved to slave Like and I was eight years old, and I recall a man coming to me. He's wearing a black suit, black hat, and he had a black bag and his hat, and I thought he was a doctor. And the next thing I remember is waking up on a stretcher like bed. I couldn't move. I had like a white sheet covering my body. I don't know if I had clothes underneath it. I don't even know, because I could only move my eyes. There was a light source above my head, and all I could see is the light shining on me, and there was transparent curtains. That's why I thought I was in a hospital at first. But there's transparent curtains. I can see another person, another, another girl, not far from me from my eyes. I could see her to my left and she was laying on a stretcher bed as well, with the light source above her head, and so I felt like it was just the two of us, but there was a lot of rooms. I guess you can say that these transparent currents were dividing us from and I could hear her crying, and it was echoing a very deep echo, and that's why I felt like I was underground. I felt like I was in a cave. It was rocky, really in kind of cold down there, and I said, where are we? And that echo like far. I couldn't believe how far deep that echo was, just from saying those few words. And then she said, they're coming. And just then I saw two figures walking on the opposite side of the and they went right to her and she started screaming, and then there was nothing. Then those two beings came to me and all I saw was the syringe needle that they had in their hand. Was this huge needle, and they injected it into my heart and I felt the cool I felt the puncture, and then I felt the cool liquid fill my chest and I couldn't breathe, and I felt like I was falling off the bed. Now it was weird. I was seeing a lot of weird things, like I don't know if they did that intentionally to mess with my mind, but I remember like trying to run. I'm trying to run away. I feel like I've gotten off this table now and I felt like my body was in molasses, like I could barely move. I'm running through a tunnel. It looks like it was rocky tunnel that was carved out. It wasn't smooth. And then next thing I know, there was something running alongside of me or going alongside with me, and I couldn't make out what it was. It looked like circles, different colors of circles that were running alongside of me. It was strange. And then the next thing I know, I'm like floating. I'm now like in the air, and I can see the back of my house. At the back of my house was a hallway down to the living room, and the bedrooms were on the side, so I can actually see the inside of my house in the hallway, and I'm going through the house. And then the next thing I know, I was like slow motion, slow motion, and then bang, I got through the house and now I'm running for speed down to the living room where my parents were, and I was crying and I was hysterical letting them know, like what happened. I said, this man came he was wearing a I thought he was a doctor. Of course, I'm eight years old now trying to ramble, and I was terrified letting them know what happened. And they said, you're supposed to be in bed hours ago. Get to bed. I just had a nightmare, and I'm like, okay, it's hours later. What So it was that was an experience that I've always I felt like, what they injected into my heart? What was that? Was it adrenaline to get my heart going, or was it to stop my heart or what wasn't I never got that answer yet as to what they did to me on the table that day. Do you remember how old you were about that time? Yes, I was eight years old. That was nineteen eighty. I don't remember if you mentioned it prior, but I was just kind of curious how old you would have been. Yeah, yeah, it was. I was eight. That was the first time I had a memory of beings. Now, the beings they were tall, and they had robes, so I couldn't even see what they were. They had their covered so I couldn't see who they were. They were tall, or they weren't grays. However, years throughout my other years of as a child, I had a lot of experiences with Grace, and to me, it was invasive. I don't find what they did to me was like, oh, we need you to help us. And there was no communication like that, and if there was, I didn't hear it because I was always very traumatized and afraid because I thought every time I closed my eyes, it's like I wake up somewhere else, or if I am on the bed, I found myself on the floor with my clothes changed around. Sometimes I've had one of my memories. I was watching over my brothers and I was probably about twelve, and I had that feeling they were going to come, because I always had this feeling bit back of my neck and I'd have these heart pains all the time whenever I was going to have an experience. These heart pains were like I couldn't take a deep breath. I'd hear thumping, extra thumping happening. I didn't know what it was, but I always knew they were coming from these feelings I had and I was trying to fight this sleep because that's I became an insomniac when I was eight years old, just because of these experiences. But I remember like, no, I'm being afraid to sleep and I'm trying to fight it. I'm fighting the sleep. I'm babysitting here. I got to stay awake, but I was. I just felt like I was being led to my bedroom and I went and laid down on the bed, and next thing I know, these three beings came into my room. They came from the wall and the out from the outside wall, and one touched my feet and I couldn't move. And then another one was at my standing next to me at my at my head, and the third one was standing at my torso area off my bed, and the one by my head was on buttoning my my pajamas. I had those old fashioned on pajamas that go up to your neck, you know, the buttons and really long to the floor. And so he was unbuttoning that and he started spreading something around my neck. Now it felt like on my chest. It felt like ice what I felt because and then the liquid went like I was laying on my back, so the liquid ran down my neck. And when I woke up from that, like I was awake. I used to call them wake dreams because I could never explain that I would be awake and the next thing I know, I'm waking up again. So this was a wake dream, is what I would call it. And when I when I woke up, my my neck was still all wet and my buttons were all still undone, and yeah, it was that was an interesting one where when they held my feet, why I couldn't move, which was strange. You mentioned the clothes being put on like differently, I've heard several different instances where that's happened with people, and it just got me thinking it would make sense that they wouldn't understand clothing in the sense because if you ever see the grays or whatever, they don't wear clothing. Like all the general descriptions that anyone's ever has, they're not usually in any type of thing. But a lot of people believe that these things aren't even actually real in the sense of being like a sentient being, Like they're almost like a drone to an extent, like they're just kind of I don't want to Yes, what I was going to say is like with modern times to relate this, like when if you think of machines even like I use AI to make artwork and some other things, and it makes things very decent, but then there's always a little bit of odd things, like back when it first start, you might get people that have like six or seven fingers, or their clothing would look a little bit off. So if these things are not actually like fully functional braink at that like you and I would be, I could see where things would be off a little bit by them because they're trying to replicate to be like back to normal, but things are just slightly off. And that's kind of how I feel like with artificial intelligence, like when I was trying to make artwork, So if this thing's just an AI itself, it would make sense that they would be just slightly off. And I agree with you, And the next story I'll share will kind of go with what you're talking about with that that they're more robotic and or yeah, manufactured some way. So in two thousand and one, I'm kind of skipping over and back and forth, but this kind of goes with the same topic. One I was no was yeah two thousand and one, as I was one of my experiences what I is, I came across another craft and I was trying to hide, I'm trying to run away from it. And as I'm running away. The being was behind me and he was shooting red lasers at me, but purposely missing me because he could have easily hit me. But he hit the ground in front of me to my left, and I saw a red light like the laser, and then a puff of smoke, and then he kept on shooting this layer back and when I looked back, that laser wasn't coming from a hand, it was from his belt. And he was wearing a silver suit, and this belt had that where the laser was coming out of. And that was the first time I saw those grays wearing an outfit. And so he was chasing me, and I somehow I was trying to hide on the table. I don't know why. I always felt I was going to be safe hiding under tables. But I was under this picnic table thing. And while I was under, the gray grabbed my arm. And when he grabbed my arm, I was kind of stuck now underneath this table from the way he grabbed me, and his face was right in my face, like two inches away from my face, and total gray face, the typical gray with the big protruding eyes. Now, when I pushed his face away from mine, it felt like silly putty the skin or the mask that this was wearing, and my fingertips, my fingers went through those eye sockets, those were holographs. My fingers went through the eye sockets, and I could feel like the mask underneath it, and and I pushed it away. And then I woke up and my hand, my arm had developed these skin problems. And I had the skin problem all my life. Now I know why. It was from their touch. So I was having all these the doctor misinterpreted as being a ring warm because it looked like that they're around, but there were burns, little burns. So now I understand that their touches but caused my torso to have these these marks all my life, my arms, upper arms, and my lower leg and my upper legs, my inner thighs. It's like I had these marks all my life, and I realized now it's from their fingertips, their touch. But the interesting part is that mask. That is a mask that they're wearing. And that's actually interesting because recently I came across something and it's weirder than saying aliens or whatever. But they trying to relate this all to that it's not actually anything that's extraterrestrial. It's actually us, like people doing all these experiments, and we're using the whole alien mask as a means to throw off what we're actually doing. They want to blame it on aliens when it's actually humans doing all the weird stuff, which I don't know if I buy into that or not. But since she brought up a mass, it just kind of made me think about what i'd just seen, like not that long ago. You know. I think when it came to this experience, what really resonated with me was when I watched one of the Phil Schneider's interviews and he talks about the underground aliens. I do know I have heard that, I've seen it on YouTube. But Phil Schneider worked for the government and he was called out and talked about this underground war that's happening with the Grays, that it live underground and green Berays, black rays, and that how he came down and the so called elevators bring him down to that ground level, and that he saw the same thing I did with the Grays wearing these silver suits and lasers coming out of this belt, which is how his hand was melted and it shot him in the stomach as well, and I'm like, oh my god, he's talking about the silver suit and this red laser coming out of the belt. It's exactly what I experienced and saw. So it's interesting. Like when it comes to extraterrestrial, interdimensional, underground, I think, once you've experienced one or the other, like that woman told me on the street, was that I was attracting all these different these different species and from different realms, Like I have memories of going through wormholes and getting dizzy from that, or falling off my bed. Maybe I wasn't even on my bed because when I fell onto the ground on my bed, I was like feet away. I couldn't have fell off the bed and you know, landed way over there. So interesting that those different experiences I had, if that just opened me up to two more. I think like once someone experiences something, that does open them up more to other things, other energy like energies, entities, whatever you want to call them, because I don't want to say you're marked or touched or anything like what that lady had said, But I do believe that makes you more susceptible to it. Because even when people talk about when they have experiences we'll just say like a crypto or a ghost or anything like that. I feel like when you start to actually talk with people, you don't think about it until actually you hear everything. But like if someone says, oh, I saw a bigfoot, well then you start talking to them a little bit later they also had seen UFOs And there's other like there's more to it, Like there's always a little bit more, and like the more you get into it, I feel like it's somehow all connected somewhere or the other. And people see a lot of weird things. People have a lot of strange experiences, and it almost runs parallel with each other. Like if you've seen this, then someone's seen them. Like it all somewhat seems connected one way or the other. I don't know how to else explain it, but like I feel like a lot of the stuff is connected. I agree with you, I really do. As I mentioned, my family, we've had a lot, Like not all of my family members and if they, if they are, they're just in denial of it. But there are a lot of my family that have recollections of these experiences, and in fact my own also we have a cabin a trap line near Wabsca and he stayed there often, and he woke up to the sound of something he's never heard before, and he went and explored it. They found big foot tracks. There was furm on branches, a lot of smaller trees were like crushed down as he was probably running through the bush back there, and that was kind of brought up to the public and we didn't really want that out there, but yeah, it's he has. And they always say, well, how comes always only one picture of one foot foot track? So that's because the other foot track is like way over here. You can't get them in the same picture, you know, So yeah, I agree. I agree. So in saying that, like, yes, I've we've encountered spirits, We've encountered little people. Uh, there's a lot of different things that I think said we just start to open up to everything else. That seems to be calm, and then I used to be very skeptical when people say, oh, I had this experience, this experience, Like there's no way you had all these experiences. And it almost the more I've been doing this, the more I've researched into things like it is actually really common, Like I'm a lot more open minded these days than whatever it used to be. And I just believe now that one way or the other, like it's somehow all connected. One way, yes, I totally agree with that. And there's a lot of people who've never experienced anything at all, and they look at you like you must be crazy or delusional or maybe you need medication. So and it's it's interesting now though, as opposed to nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and one when I was really deep into the research. Then, so many people are now more open minded about this topic now, especially now with cell phones and you know, easily accessible videos and cameras and people actually look up and actually want to capture something. And every time I seem to talk about this topic, there's might there might be a UFO seting tonight in Edmonton. We'll see. So I really believe that we're all connected as well. I do believe that what sets off those when I go into a store and I set off those alarms going into the store, that it's my implant that's being picked up on. Yeah, because I know I have a scar on my scalp. I always believe that my heart might have had an implant from the pains and the vibrations I would feel when they would show up. And then I have something in my right ankle as well, so there's you know, I think a lot of us have talked about being marked. I think they do mark us, and they track us, and maybe they're no longer abducting me like they did before because I was told I'm too old for what they used me for. But it's into that I have three sons, and I was I always told my sons, if you ever have this experience, or tell me if he has strange dreams, and thankfully they haven't since the one thing that happened two thousand and one. But I think when it comes to that, I'm always fearful that it's going to continue on these experiences that my sons and then my grandchildren. I talked to one elder and he told me because my son was going through some hard times, and he said, that's because he's trying to cope with his life. He's a starman trying to adjust to this life. And I thought, hmm, okay, and I said, well, I'm grateful that I have sons because I don't want this to happen to them. He said, well, your sons can have daughters. And then that really put things into perspective to me because I know what I was used for. I believe what they're doing to me when I was eight years old and when I was on that table. I believe that they're prepping me in my body to be working with them for the hybrid program. And maybe I'll talk about that that part now, unless you have a question before I start that one. The only thing I was thinking of to ask a question about is do you happen to know what type of blood you are? So I am it's strange. I actually asked one time if our bloods can change? So I am our ah positives? Is our posit that the typo yes, oh positive? But the usual abductee is an all negative. Yeah, that's what I was wondering because it seems to be TYPEO negative is the most common coincidents or whatever. But like that is the most common when you talk with people with abductions or whatever, they're usually type of negative, which is I believe that's actually one of the rarest of blood types. So it's interesting that the rarest blood type was the most common amongst abductees. But that's also the blood type that they can use universally with anyone else. I wonder if that's part of it too. That's that's right. I did a lot of research on that as well, because I was curious, because I do believe it, and that's why I thought it can the blood type change. That sounds silly, but I I recall like younger telling me that I was all negative and then my when got some blood work done, I asked, what was my blood type? And you tell me is it? Oh? Positive? Oh? And I was curious it did that change or did my mind somehow switch that? But yeah, it is something that I questioned as well. I did want to get my son's blood type checked. And yeah, because their father, I'll just share this really quickly. Their father is originally he's a descendant of Louis Real, who was a big revolutionary mate person back in the eighteen hundreds, and so my my children's father is a descendant of that batman and my ex he had thought. He has four brothers, and one of those brothers was abducted back in early what was it would have been early early seventies, mid seventies, and he was missing for five days and he went missing from a party. He went missing for five days. This is up in the mountains. He was found on that fifth day naked on the side of the road and a truck driver picked him up and he said, what are you doing up here? Because the Selmo crested Mountain, it's quite high in the in the mountains. And he was up there by himself, and he kept on just saying they didn't like me. I pissed them off. Sorry I shouldn't, he said, I got them angry and they threw me out of the UFO and I fell through the trees. And he had branches of like marks of him falling through the trees, probably, but he didn't. He was like so out of it. He didn't know what his name was. And he was driven like to Vancouver, which is passed. He would have passed his hometown to get to Vancouver. And he was so out of it. And then that truck driver took him to a hospital. Then he was admitted, given shock treatment, everything, and they didn't believe his story that he was taken by aliens. So it was interesting that my children's father didn't believe any of the stuff that I've been through because his own brother went through this, and so anyway, it's so I'm thinking, well, that's interesting that we would found we'd find each other knowing that he has a brother who has had these experiences actually was missing for five days. It was very similar to Travis Walton's story kind of. I was just thinking, mm hmm, that sounds like Travis Walton's story. I've noticed maybe it's a man thing, but I feel like most men are more skeptical. Maybe it's just because that's just how we are just programmed to be men, I guess these days, I don't know, but like when you look at into a lot of these things, like typically when like when women have experiences or something like that, like even just say paranormal, a lot of the time, the men don't believe in it. They're like, oh, there's nothing going on here, my house isn't haunt it. Like they try to like write everything off, like explain it all and to be one hundred percent. I've done the same thing with some of the weird stuff has happened to me. I've always tried to rationalize and write it off and won't accept that it could be what it actually I think it is. Like now it has to make sense. I wonder if that's by design, like we're unknowingly programmed to ignore the things that we see and know that sounds strange to say it that way, but like I wonder if that's not intentional. Well, I often wondered if if it's because they turn it off? And why I see it as because a lot of my experience, So I was with my children's father since I was sixteen years old, so from sixteen till thirty five, and during that time, I've had these experiences and I would say, they took me again, how come we didn't wake up? Or he'd say what and he'd say, well, nothing happened. I said, yes, it did you know this happened? And he didn't believe me. Then he would say, well, how come I didn't wake up? I said, right, exactly, how come we didn't wake up? How come we didn't notice me missing or whatever? Right? And it didn't help. But he worked out of town a lot too, so you know, he wasn't always there to be there, and some of my experiences that were very profound happened while he was away and I was home alone. And because I had in two thousand and one, no sorry, nineteen ninety one. Nineteen ninety one was I had experience is with what I called ancients. I don't know their names or which entity type it was, but I would in my brain, in my mind, my heart, I was calling them ancients. And these ancients shot up in my bedroom and I had just laid down. I was wide awake, just laid down, and I heard some noise and I looked and there was this little petite woman maybe about four foot five, is very petite. She had very white skin but black hair. Her body looked really frail, and that's saying why I was calling her ancient, because she looked very old, but not her complexion. And then just as she appeared, there was two other men that showed up on eastead of my bed, and my body floated off the bed. They guided my this happening. One each of them grabbed an arm and then they stood me up at the foot of my bed. But I didn't I wasn't touching the ground my floor, and then they moved me and they held me. It's like I was floating, and they moved me into the living room of my home, and they just moved their hand and like shifted their hand, like say, from left to right. And as they did that, the room, my living room shifted, it twisted, turned, and now I was in a UFO. At that moment, though I didn't know I was in a UFO, I was like, Wow, this is a cool room. Why is it round? And there was no loose furniture around. It was like kind of like Star Trek. They're all like built in seating and they're still holding onto me. And they pointed to the one of the windows, because it was all windows all around. They pointed to the window and then we were just at the window, like like I didn't feel us moving, just there and they pointed down and I was hovering above a busy intersection of the city of Edmonton, but the opposite side of the city, and it was like I was seventy six Ave and ninety two Street. I always remember that address and I've driven by it a few times thinking this is interesting, because at the moment, I thought, this is a cool room. Why is it above the intersection? So that was a very to me. That was very traumatic still, even though I knew they weren't there to give to show me harm, they were trying to show me something to communicate with me. But unfortunately I was still young. I still didn't understand. I didn't want any of this. I was always wondering, like, why me, Why am I? And these people are different? They look like humans natives and the others were grays and or they were tall with robes, or there were panthers, or are the men in blacks? You know? So these were different and they only appeared to me once that I recall. I haven't heard the panther. Someone recently reached out to me and told him I needed to reach out to someone else because they had saw and I forget what they called it, but I believe it was like a I want to say I was like a cat person, but they called it something. They give it a name, and it was a black It was a black panther looking humanoid. It was a couple of months ago. They'd messaged me over on Facebook, and I need to go back and look into that now. But that when you said the panthers where they humanoid issue? Were they actually just like normal looking panthers, you know. They stood up on two legs, their hind legs, and had a gate and they opened the gate. So I would have to say that. That's why I was wasn't sure if there were a shape shifter, because for them to change from the panther, and then they tried to come into my home by pretending they're somebody else, a human that I know and a relative, and I said, I'm not letting you, and I know what you are, I know who you are, and then it turned back into the black that panther. So some people, so I'm looking. I was reading on something here and somebody was talking about phantom cats or alien big cats. So there have been other people who have seen these, and including my relative, as I mentioned her, her and her children still see Grace and these panther like beings. Yeah, there's definitely gotta be some correlation with that then, because if you'd seen it and your family's seeing it, I don't know any Like I said, this is kind of new to me for hearing anything related to like a eline logging cat type thing. So I'm have to go back and try and find that person that I was told to reach out to and try and research it here a little bit better. It'd be interesting to hear what they have to say, just because of what we've experiencing and to me, those were they were threatening. They were they were not there to help us. They they were very threatening. And what they threatened me to take my children from me if I didn't stop my project. And my cousin what she deals with right now or her kids are seeing this as well. And yeah, and so they come to me when when they had something new happened, because they know I've been researching this for a long time. My cousin had a recent experience with a gray that same thing it touched her feet and when it did that, but she went into like she explains it, that she went into like convulsions, like she was shaking, she couldn't stop seizing or whatever it was that they were doing to her. And then she was screaming and her daughter came to the bedroom. And when her daughter appeared, the gray disappeared. So she was called me. She was traumatized, like she didn't have to tell you what happened. So we had long talks about what she's been through. And the connection I've made with our family who've had these experiences are those who've lived on that property at my grandmother's home. So this relative she lived at that property, she grew up there. I lived there for a couple of years. Another cousin lived there. I have another actually i'll share this memory. I'm kind of bouncing around on this one, but I remember living at during the time where it was before our UFO experience, and we had a chicken coop that was next to our home, and my grandmother was in there collecting eggs and my cousin, my uncle, who must have been about sixteen at the time, walked by and he started sneezing and he started screaming, and I can see it looked at him and there was blood coming out of his nose, and he was screaming and saying, there's something up there's something up there. And he reached into his nostril and he pulled out this. It looked like a little ball that had little holes inside like you can see through it if you moved it around. It was really neat. It looked real interesting, and it had a bit of a hook on it, So I think the hook is what was launched back into his nostril. But he sneezed it out and I remember saying, oh, what is that and he said that I don't know what It came out of my nose and you know, so I remember like things like that as a child, like these little things, right, And it wasn't until I started researching this topic and really coming into terms with what I've been through and then putting all the pieces together. I still have a lot of missing pieces, but I have enough pieces too, like at least kind of makes sense of some of the story of my life. And I always wanted to do the regression so I could fill in the rest of the puzzle. But I've been told my elders and people who've been researching and saying, you know what, you know enough if you go into that rabbit hole, you might not come out. And you know, at fifty two years old, right now, I'm comfetant. I've come to terms with my experiences were and I think because I'm still here. Number one, I'm still here. The obviously didn't want to kill me, because they could have done that when I was seven years old, but I know they used me for a purpose, and that's what I thought. I would go into that part of this. If I'm not even sure how much time we have, that's something I need to ask you as well. Well, you're good and you can go ahead and go into Okay. So as a as a preteen, so like eleven eleven years old, I started having a lot of these experiences that are sorry changes in my body. Of course, we're going through priority, but I was having a lot of strange things. Not only was I mentioned I had a lot of these marks on my body that look like but I realize, now we're fingertip fingertips, because it'd be three or four in a row. And now it made sense, you know, that that could be fingered from them holding me down. Because one of the memories of one of the things that I encountered was a lot of movement in my stomach. I used to be pretty athletic in high school preteens, and the doctors, oh, there must be just some spasms. He'd never test me. But so I was having these strange feelings. As I was going through puberty, I was having what they would call irregular menstrual cycle. I would have nothing for three months and then boom, I would have them again. And it was a lot of that missing uh time. So I just grew to think that, okay, I must just have a regular cycle. But I would have strange things like I would I would wake up and my belly button area would be really tender, and I was always wondering, like, why is my belly button always sore? And why am I finding black tar in my belly button, like it's it's a jelly texture. Is this in my belly button? Why did it get there? And then the movements in my stomach and the other thing that was strange. And of course in health back in the day, they never gotten into depth of what our bodies go through, whether it's puberty or pregnancy. But I was blackt heating, which I thought was normal. I didn't realize that it wasn't normal. So I went through from the age eleven till about twenty two, but the same thing. I would go through, these different cycles of no menstrual and stomach movements and this black tar and my belly and my belly button and these marks on my body. And one time that's I was probably about fifteen, and while I was laying in bed, I actually felt a full movement in my stomach, as if something just turned around turned over, and I got scared, thought, well, what's going on. That's when I went to the doctor and they said, oh, it must be stomach spasms. He didn't even bother checking me for pregnancy because I was only a certain age and obviously not be in a situation to get pregnant, so they never checked me. I never thought to even check. It wasn't until so I was As I mentioned, I was with my spouse since I was sixteen. We talked about habits starting a family when I was eighteen and still I was very young. I know that, but we couldn't get pregnant. We went through testing, nothing seemed to be wrong, but we just couldn't couldn't have a child. And in nineteen ninety four I went and sat with an elder in BC different different province, and she was she was weaving a DreamCatcher earrings. At the time, I didn't know much about my culture, so I asked, I asked her what are you making? She said, they're DreamCatcher earrings. And she said bad dreams go through the and get lost in the web, and the good dreams go through the diamond. And I said, wow, I said I really need something like that. I said I have. I've been having really weird dreams all my life and I used to call them. I told her I'd call them wake dreams because I wake up from a dream when I'm already awake. And I said, a lot of bad things happen in those dreams. And then she prayed over me, and then she said, take these earrings and wear them, and when you wear them, you pray and you ask for a child. I'm like, oh, okay, So I, you know, went home really back to the hotel, real happily with my My ex at the time worked for Cnrail and so I was traveling with him through BC. Thing was in storage at home when I'm traveling with him. So I went back to the hotel and I said, guess what I got these airings from this lady. She told me to dream about a baby and ask for it. And he just thought, yeah, okay, because we've been trying for so long, he just kind of gave up on it. So that evening that night is when I call. When I'm writing my story my book, this is what I called the chapter Meeting the Children. So I woke up again from being awake. I was awake, and I woke up again, and I'm now walking in this hazy, misty, blue, blue gray room and I was on a craft. It was I couldn't see very far around me because it was there was not much light. It was just this misty and the room was illuminated a little bit with this grayish blue color, and there was kind of a moisture in the air, kind of like a mist similar to when you go to the produce section and you know they got the miss coming. It was something like that, just a lot more finer, like. It wasn't leaving like moisture on me. But I was being led by what I would call a woman figure, and she was leading me into this room. There was also two rows of children, and if I always do like just guess, there's maybe twenty or more children. And some of them were really young, and some of them were old. So if I look at how many years of experiences of had since eleven years old, yeah, they might be ten years old. So as I'm walking between these two rows of children, some of them had heads and the size of graze. Some had normal heads, some had hair, some didn't have hair, Some had big eyes, some had normal human eyes. So they were all different. But I felt so much love for these children, even though they looked different. I wasn't even alarmed at how different they looked and the little ones, the young ones were walking beside me and grabbing out my shirts or grabbing my hands, and I just remember looking at all these children and just feeling like wow, I I you know, I just felt so much love. And then that woman turned around with the baby and she handed it to me and she said, you can keep this one. And I woke up from that. I woke up crying because I was I missed those children and I missed what I had just experienced. And I told my my AXE said I had a dream of what I had to dream that we were given a baby boy. She said, we can keep this one. And he just looked at me because we've been trying for years, and he said, yeah, maybe you caught a dream because I was wearing those earrings. And I said, oh, wasn't that cool. Well, from that town, we're going to a different town through see. I started having those heart pains again in the back of my neck feeling and I was like, something's going to happen, Something's gonna happen again. Oh my god, I hate this. And yeah, So I had the heart pains for three days, which normally doesn't last that long. I went to the hospital in Burns Lake because that's where we ended up burns like BC and uh, every time he came into the room, the heart pains went away. Every time he walked out of the room, the heart pain started again. And said why, I said, stay here, stay here. But you know, he didn't even check me again. We didn't even think about checking for pregnancy because I was coming in there for the heart problem. And so he gave me prescription for some muscle relaxing and and then I'm lined up at the pharmacy and I see pregnancy tests. I'm going to buy buy one. So I bought one and it came back I was pregnant. And it would have been four weeks from that date of that dream that when I woke up from that dream. And so throughout my son's pregnancy, I knew there was going to be a boy, and I knew he'd be born on February first. And my doctor would say, no, no, no, you're you're going to be about February fourteenth to twentyth I said, nope, don't go anywhere. He'll be here on February first. Throughout the whole pregnancy, that was what I'll tell the doctor he would roll his eyes at me. Because I've been doing this for twenty five years, no woman's ever predicted the date. I said, well, don't go anywhere. Sure enough I went. I went into labor on January thirty first, and I was in twenty four hours of labor and he was born on February first, and the doctor was surprised. He said, how did you know? I said, I don't know what. I told you not to go anywhere. So it was interesting meeting the children. So that's when I realized what I was used for and why they told me I was now too old for. That's why they don't need me anymore. Do you happen to know? I? Well, no one really knows, But like, do they give any idea of what they used them for? No. But one of the elders that talk to me about it, because he seemed to know a lot about this. He says that we're there, that we humans or whatever made a contract that we would help the Grays to repopulate their earth, and so they're mixing. So what they were doing is what I realized, is that they were injecting the fetus or the egg into me. I was like an incubator, and then they'd come back after three months and take the fetus from me and then have them grow wherever, if it was on this ship or if there's somewhere else, but what I believe or what I feel, it was to repopulate something about them not being able to reproduce on their own, and they needed. Us kind of think, like I've had other people that have talked about it too, where they've met what would be basically their children, their clone children, And it's strange to me that if these things are here to help, the way they go about doing things is they don't have the capacity for caring like we do. I'm not saying they're here with negative intentions or anything like that, but they don't have the compassion, the human element of emotion. I don't think it's like they're I don't want to say the lifeless, but they're just they do what they do like they don't get hung up on the emotions like a human would. So for them coming in there and taking something and experimenting with it, we also have to consider what we do to animals. We tag animals, we study animals, we watch how they do things. We've messed around with genetics. We've tried to clone sheep, we've done we consider ourselves human and oh we're good and this and that. But and then these things they don't do the same thing. Oh they're terrible. They're coming to do this. Well, I mean to them, they're doing the same thing that we do. They see us doing it to everything else around us, So they're just doing the same thing back to. Us, right, And that's all I was gonna say. So I've because I've been through this, I also would say the same thing that we're just exactly, we're doing the same thing that they're doing. And and to that animal who's getting like maybe it's you know, for makeup or whatever that they're using those studying those animals for, they're doing with no care either, Right, it's it's there. They've got a mission and it's two whatever they're doing with the testing of animals. Uh. And this I felt like when I was a kid, I remember saying, we're just like ants in an ant farm, and the aliens are the ones who are who are watching us at this ant farm. And that was the only way I could really explain it as a child. Rights I feel like we're just ants in an at farm. It's kind of how I would describe it myself, just because it's the same thing. It's the same concept. Literally, if they're able to travel through space and time and everything else and they come to our plan, we're just a little ants crawling around doing our thing. And then when you talked about like having no compassion and no feeling, I totally felt that with those grays. Definitely, I felt that they like were more robotic, no soul, They're just operating on whatever is driving them. The only one that I really felt I had compassion or feelings would have been those ancient ones. And that mother figure who led me through the room. I felt like she was the mom to these two the children like she was. That's my call it, the mother figure. So if you're right, like, are they being raised? Uh, what's the purpose for them? What does that mean for those children? Now? Are they Are they still around? Like? I have so many questions right as to what happened. So there's it's been an interesting journey in trying to learn about my experiences and share. I'm very open to sharing. I feel it helps me heal when I can share a bit of the story because I also believe that there's thousands, if not millions, of people going through these things and they don't realize that thing it was just a bad dream, or why did I wake up with this bruise on me? Or they don't realize really that there may be being used like I was being that my conscious memory remembers all this, But what what I don't know is like there's probably thousands of experiences that I don't know or that I had. I don't know thousands, but when you look at from a span of age seven two thirty five, it was kind of when things stop l I know they still I feel like they still watch me, but they're not doing anything to me. It's from what I understand, but it is something i'd have to say. I'm stronger now emotionally, mentally, spiritually than I was going through all this because it was starting to surface that I was having these natural psychic abilities I might want to call them, but not really psychic abilities, just a higher intuition. I was having a lot of premonition dreams. I've had those all pretty much all my life. And when it comes to the healing, I got then to reiki in two thousand and four and I feel like that really helped me. If somebody ever says, how did you overcome what you've been through, I'd have to say it was reiki. And one of the things I had to learn to overcome was the fear. And because I was afraid of everything, I was scared to look up. I was scared to go somewhere by myself in the dark. There were so many things I was afraid of because I thought there was going to be an alien hiding belind there. But yeah, I went through a lot of fears and reiki really helped me, and I learned a lot about energy and how to protect myself and others. So I really feel going through that helped me feel from that and then accept and knowing that it was in the past and kind of hurt you now, and understanding what post traumatic stress and trauma does to a person and their psyche and their whole. So I really put credit into reiki, and I became a Raki master in two thousand and seven, and I really have to credit In fact, I call my reiki master teacher. I call her my angel on earth, because without her, I probably wouldn't be where I am today in my healing. I've talked to several people that are into raking and everything, and it seems to do wonders for them. So I've often been curious about looking into it for myself. But it's just something that I've never actually dove into too much. But I did have a couple more questions I wanted to ask for to wrap this up. Sure, your first experience with UFO you were around seven, I think you said, yes. I don't know if you're familiar with this, and I just kind of stumble across as here within the last month or two. But it is very common for people to be become infatuated with UFOs and aliens or remember abduction scenarios or anything like that. It's always around the time that they're in second grade. That would be around seven years old. And if you look into other people that have had these experiences, that is usually around seven or eight when they start to have these experiences. And I can't I don't know the correlation to that. It's just i've noticed it now. It's started to become a very common trend around that age group. Yeah, you know, I've been researching this topic since nineteen ninety nine. I was heavily involved in a lot of research. We we used to meet pal talk. It was a voice chat type of thing at the time, and I was I did so much research and out of all the people I spoke to who had similar experiences, it all started from the age of six or seven. And I believe at that time, as our bodies are growing and developing and the top of our skull, you know, the closes up the top, I believe that's when things start to happen. And yes, I think when it comes to that age, I think they're prepping us, They're getting us ready for what they need us for. And then by the time you hit the age of ten or eleven, that's when they start using us for their purpose, impregnating us. And I'm speaking for women and using us in that way. And it made sense now, like as I got older and put the pieces together, because when it wasn't until nineteen ninety nine that I really accepted this these experiences and really tried to learn and understand what was really happening to me because I knew they weren't just dreams. I knew they weren't because I woke up having ailments or marks on my body, or like I said, the fingerprint marks all over my body. It was something that I didn't want to accept because I knew that it wasn't going to be something that was going to be accepted. And like my you know, people would say my ex for example, made a comment and he'll laugh if he listens to this interview, because I remember saying, you know, I really like something's happening. I really need help or something going on. I needed to go to the hospital, there's something wrong, and he'd say, yeah, I'll take it to the mental hospital and drop you off there. You know. So it was hard to be with somebody who didn't want to know or didn't want to believe that this was happening. It's interesting now we've been suffered for a long time now, but he is into all those UFO shows now, you know, so. After the fact. Yeah, it's the other thing I was going to ask is you said you had what do you think is implants? Have you ever had them actually looked at and never thought about having them removed? Well, Darryl Simms is actually a really good friend of mine and we've recently. Yeah, I know, it's wonderful I met him. I think oh, gosh, two thousand and five or six. Oh no, it was before that. Yeah. So I met him a long time ago and he was in one of our pal talk chats and that's how I met him. And he was talking about, like we can get an implant, that's let's do the black light on you. And I'm like, well, I don't think they're doing anything to me now, but I would like to umbook the implants now. Interestingly enough, I mentioned messengers that come into my life. I went and saw healer once for something else. I didn't tell her anything about my you full life. Nothing. I went in there for I was having like hives breakout and hives, And while she was doing this theta healing, she looked at me very strangely and then said to me, you have a lot of missing memory. I don't mean you're forgetting, but you have a lot of memories that were taken from you. Do you know what I'm talking about? And I said, yes I do. And she said, and did you know that they used you? They just treated you like you're just a piece of meat and they didn't have any care and how they handled you, but they used you for years And I said yes, I'm aware. And then she went on she was still doing her Theta healing. I don't know if you've been to a thet a healer, but they kind of use their fingers and they scan your body. They run from top to bottom and they like just like they might be like five feet away, and she's doing the scanning and then she said, do you know what they used you for? I said yes. And then she said, you tried to have children? Did you try? I said yes, we tried to have children for a long time. She said, do you know why you did not have children when you were trying? And she said because they disconnected. The way she was trying to explain it in simple terms was they disconnected your uterus to your vagina, so you could not get pregnant because they needed your uterus. And I'm like, that makes a lot of sense. And then she went on to say, do you know that they're still tracking you? And I said, well, I kind of have a feeling they're still tracking me, but they haven't bothered me that I'm aware of. She said, no, they're still watching all of you. But she said, you have three implants in your body. Two of them are deactivated and one is still activated. And she went to the same thing that I said that the side of my skull, that there's one of there, I can actually feel it, And there's one underneath my ear. I can feel that in there, and then one in my heart, and then one at that ankle, the same one that I was mentioning. I was like, everywhere that she said they were, that's where I thought they were. So she was very upset. She was getting emotional while she was doing this healing on me, and I didn't understand where that came from because I had already come to terms with what had happened to me. Now of course, not knowing everything that happened to me, she was very aware of what I'd been through, and so I find it unique that I've had a lot of these messengers feel in some of the blanks of my questions that I had, and she was one of them. Yes, interesting that she was able to pin point a lot of things and had information just by being not really knowing your backstory or anything. Yeah, she knew nothing about me at all. I just went in sen her because she came to the community where I was living in and I wanted to see what the theaty healing was going to do with these breakouts that I was having because I felt like it was something happening at work, an environmental thing, and then all of a sudden, the whole healing session turned into learning more about my UFO experiences and what was done to me. Yeah, it's I always find these experience that people have interesting. It's not anything I would ever say I want to experience, But at the same time, it's kind of like my curiosity is peaked to the point to where I need an answer, you know what I mean. I don't want to experience it, but it's almost like you have to experience in order to actually understand it. And I don't think anyone can really relate to it unless they actually go through with himself. And yeah, it's it's hard, Like I said, when people listen to stuff like this and you're you're ex is this very stereotypical average person, like when someone talks about this or like I need to take you to the looney bin or whatever A tenthfoil hat on, Which is why I call the show what I call it, because it's kind of like to the average person, the people that experience all this stuff we're ridiculed, we're not taken seriously, we're called crazy, or no one understands the struggle of what it actually is. What if they ever consider that everything that someone says is actually true. But no one thinks that way. It's easier, it's easier just to write it off and poke fun at people rather than accept the fact that, you know what, maybe this. Is real, right and exactly it is one of those topics that is not easy to bring up but dinner or a group of people unless they're in that same type of research and the reaction of what people have. And I'll share a quick story from when I was eight years old. I remember in Grade three now we were supposed to write in English, were supposed to write what was your most memorable experience? And I was excited. I was going to write about my UFO experience. Of course, at eight years old, I would have had a lot more details because I would have remembered it more clearly as it just happened a year before. And I wrote it with my UFO experience, and I remember getting a big f on that on my paper, and everybody who else was up could go up and talk about what their story was about one was talking about the pony they got for the birthday. Another one talked about the trip to Disneyland. But I wasn't asked to talk about my story. And so at the end she called me to her desk and I was crying because I was eight years old, and I was like, but and then she said, I want to talk to you about that. You're supposed to write about something true, but you can be a great frictional writer. One day you had so many details. And I said, but that was true, and I said, it happened. It happened, and it was in the paper and my brother almost died that night, and she said and then so she kind of looked at me and was like trying to feel sorry for me, that look of awe. And she said, okay, well, if they're here, why are they're here? And out of the mouth that what came out of my mouth was interesting because it was like, these are words we didn't learn in grade three. She said, well, why are there here then? And I said, you're here for natural resources. Wabisca is abundant with natural resources. This was nineteen eighty when that happened. The exploration for oil and gas in Wabasca did not happen until nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety one, and at that time it was a native community, one way in, one way out, not a reserve. It was a native community, but there was a reserve that surrounded the community. And so in nineteen ninety the exploration was Yes, Wabisca is abundant with natural resources. It's in the backyard basically of the Fort McMurray, which is the biggest oil and gas I think in Canada. But so Wabisca is an extension of that. And so for being eight years old and knowing about the natural resources and the word abundant, we didn't know that in grade three. Yeah, so I wish I could have had a copy of that story. You know, there's a lot of things I wish I would have kept, you know, when we would look back now of these experiences in the timeframes. Yeah, No, that's definitely one of those things to where as a child you remember so much stuff that I remember again same age frame, but I was around seven or eight when a lot of the weird stuff that I remember was kind of happening, and it wasn't like to my knowledge, UFO or anything really like that, but like a lot of the weird stuff that happened was right around the time I was about eight years old, and I've just always found it interesting. Now within the last few weeks when I've heard that that this is about that age time frame of when people start experiencing a lot of weird stuff. So again, does it all connected? It kind of leads me back to what I was saying earlier, like I feel like all this stuff, one way or the other is somehow connected. But yeah, that's and I agree. And one of the things that I try to share with people was when your child comes to you and says you've had this experience or a dream, pay attention to that. Pay attention to what they're saying. Because nobody took an interest into what I was going through except my grandmother, Like I said she was she had a lot of experiences too, And I often wonder was how do they chose? How do they choose the families? Like what was it that my grandmother's slot of the family, What was it that was an interest to them? And why some of our cousins and not everybody, And again it's one of those questions, it's how do they pick and choose the people they take and use. And I also know a lot of people in the area. Like actually, what I mentioned to Darryl Simms was that they should you know, pretty I was actually going to do one, but I'm because of what happened in two thousand and one, I chose that I'll let's somebody else tell my story because I've what I went through was very challenging. When I was trying to work on that documentary, it's that story there. But you know, I always say, listen to the children, listen to what they're saying, you know, and because that's where we have to be as parents to support that and at least try to understand that. So I'm always asking my sons, like, if you've ever had experiences, tell me, you know, any bad dreams, tell me. And none of them ever came forward with anything, but. Yeah, that's good. At least if they don't remember, if nothing's happening, then they're not at least dealing with it. Yeah. I think in our family it was mostly the women, well except for my uncle who had that up a noose, that implant up his nose. Yeah, I know a couple of men that around the same time I grew up Slave Lake. Let's your Slave Lake. If you ever look on the map, that's your Slave Lake. Is the biggest lake in Alberta. And a lot of activity happened in that lake. So I did a lot of research back in my area and Wabasca Slave Lake a hotbed. I was told that it also was a negative vortex that goes through Wabsca. So it makes a lot of sense of the activity that happens up. They're not just UFO, but there is a lot of activity around the lake, and a lot of people who witnesses UFOs they see the same thing. They're on. They're hovering above the lake. They're either sucking up water, they're doing something with the water. And I know two men have a story that was in what we are Evington Journal, which is like a city of Evington's big newspaper in nineteen ninety seven. This these two gentlemen had experience where they were driving on the highway and the next thing they know is that there was a light shining through the windshield and they were now raising being rose, being carried up into the sky and they ended up going into a craft. And actually, if I find the newspaper clipping, I'll share it with you. And he explained to me what he saw what they did to his cousin. He talked about how when they're talking about harvesting, they like gold for some reason. And so he talked about this craft that they took him under the car. The car was inside the craft. They took out his cousin and he put him on this. He said, this looked like crucifix that came up from the floor. And they put his friend, his cousin, up against that crucifix, and it closed him off from his arms that held him down. And these things came out of the cross, and they were like going into his face, into his mouth and to his nose. And he was trying to fight off the other aliens that are coming around him, and he said, I kicked them between the legs and nothing happened. But he never shares what happened with him. He told me what they did to his friend, and what I believe that they were using men for was extracting sperm. That is the possibility. And I don't know how to again, like I said, without going through something like that and relating to it, it's hard to say anything to that, because it's just like it's it's one of those things, like I said, I don't want to experience it myself, but at the same time, it's like unless you experience it, you can't really I've said that about a lot of things so well. Before I sign off, I wanted to say, like in two thousand and one, when I was working on that project and I was screaming to the ceiling and saying, you know, it ends with me, it stops with me, take my life. I'll sacrifice my life for my children. I said all those things, and and then everything stopped. Everything did stop, and my son then said, Mommy, you know there're there. They're not going to bother us anymore. No more bad things are going to happen to us. And he had a visitor and told him that he was there to protect us. And he described this visitor as being all like he was illuminating a white light. He was dressed in a white robe, he had a long beard, and he told him that no more bad things are going to happen and he was going to watch over us. And you know, he was three and a half and he's now twenty six years old and I believe when he said that that was true, because nothing bad quotations has happened to me or us since then. Mm hmm. I will there's something else we can talk about it here off here, but I want to wrap this up here, and just one more thing. If there's if you like, for anyone in the listening audience to reach out to you, where would be a good way for them to contact you? Yeah? Well, I typically use Facebook. That's probably my main social media platform that I use. I was going to start doing some stories and in TikTok or Instagram, but I'm not really too familiar with using those platforms. So Facebook would be the place, and I would be very happy if someone wants to add me. I appreciate people who want to learn more or maybe they have a story they want to share with me. I've I'm very open to that. So my name to find me on Facebook is Alison A L l I s O N and my last name is an indigenous last name. It is Yelney y E L l O w k n e E. And you can add me and I can certainly accept that. Awesome. Well, Allison, it's been a pleasure talking with you. I'd definitely appreciate you coming on here tonight and talking with me. Thank you, Brandon. I appreciate the opportunity to be here, so thank you so much. Yeah. Well, for anyone listening, I want to say thanks to everyone out there, and again thanks to Alison. And we'll check here on the next one. So good night everybody, and that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of a foiltel dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. Thank you all for joining us on this journey, and until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown. Good night everyone, seas on sounds and the headphones. Yeah it's turns rock. Got a story about a cryptic creature. Let's take a walk, big foot up. Then they're out there in the talk. But the truth is out there likingly as fuck. You both sightings got the whole world. Show conspiracies on phones, like a story in the book me Console trying to keep us back. We're all gonna use them a line. In history. They don't want us to know the secrets they hide if they will show Donado Society. They keep us in Chase. Been sending Thomas time to break the reins control, trying to keep us fine. But I'm a people are gonna use my mind in history. 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