Tinfoil Tales: After Dark with Brad Lail

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most where the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing. It don't like death. I'm joined here tonight with brad from the Week podcast. That's right, you want to let the audience know a little bit about you were just on a recent episode with me about the thirty third Parallel. Do you want to let them know a little bit more about your show? Yeah, man, so I talk all about My name is Bradam from the awakenpodcast. Awakenpodcast dot com. You can find uh. I'm on every platform. As I was just telling Brandon a while ago, except for Apple for some reason. You can't for Apple podcasts won't upload my episodes for some reason. But I'm gonna be working that out. But I'm on all the major platforms, Spotify and you know, iTunes and our iHeart and Pandora and all these other places. So but my show is mostly about spirituality and how it's I try to focus on the spirituality side of the paranormal. I like to look at things from a different angle, Like I believe that paranormal things exist with all my heart. There's one hundred percent these things really happen. But I want to know where are they coming from? How are they coming here? Why are they? Where are they? Who are they? You know? How can they see us but we can't see them. That's the kind of stuff I like to ask questions around on my podcast. So I talk a lot about, even though almost dumb dumb. I talk a lot about, like you know, electromagnetic spectrum and different types of things like energy and frequency and vibrations, stuff that I really am not qualified to talk about, but I try to talk about it anyways, using my very simple minded tactics of trying to explain things I understand it in my head, but it's always harder to say. But anyways, I like to talk about a little bit of everything, esoteric stuff again, spirituality, stuff, paranormal. I love it all because it's all related spirituality. Conspiracy always leads to spirituality. So agree that's all related one way or the other. I've been saying that a lot here recently, that I feel like everything that goes on there's always some reason that happens, and I feel like there's always some connection between what goes on and the people involved in it and everything that you somehow we're all connected. Everything strange it happened is all the same thing. It's all related somehow. I'm not an expert. I don't know everything, but that's just kind of what I feel like it is. Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty obvious that it's related. But you know, again, it will make your mind go crazy the more you try to think of It's like that, you know, how you when you're a kid or as you're getting older, you start to say, well, if God made us, and who made God? And it's that question that keeps driving driving you crazy for your whole life, Then like, how did God come out of nothing, and so it's a very you know, when you start diving into the spirituality part of things and then even the scientific side of things, well, for one, you start to kind of see that everything they're they're keeping information from us in a lot of ways. They're trying to manipulate our reality. They're trying to manipulate our energy to where we can we have you know, we create, we manifest with our thoughts and our vibrations, and so they're trying the When I say they, I mean these evil people who are in charge, who worship the the archons or the whatever deity is that it is. They they they worship, and then they try to manifest things into reality, like we're the debates tonight for example. You know, it's all sigil magic, it's all images that pop in our there there. They put these subconscious images in our brains through the through the broadcasting, through the airwaves, through the radio waves. Uh. And then they try to they try to get us to consent to the information. And once we consent to the information, then we can vibrate things into our into reality. So people always talking about predictive programming television, that's it's not actually predictive programming. What they're actually doing is trying to get us to manifest things into reality. And so that's why when you see things, you know, twenty years from now, just like with all the Simpson stuff, right, it's like the Simpson stuff played thirty years ago, twenty years ago, fifteen, ten years ago, whatever it is, and we've accepted it into our subconscious which then manifests it into reality. So you'll see it a lot with like politicians will do it. They'll put out a little bit of information about a bill, and if it doesn't do well in the news, then you won't ever hear about it again, and then that bill will go away. That's that's it's all like magic. It's all word magic, man. So but all it's all designed to manipulate our energy because they don't want us to know how truly powerful we are. And you know our true you know, we're created in God's image, so we have this power to create. The devil doesn't have the power to create. He can only corrupt. And so they have to get us to manifest things into reality because and they have to steal our bodies, because our bodies belong to Christ. Our bodies belonged to God, and they're trying to hijack our bodies to come into our reality because where they're at is miserable. They're in hell, and you know, whether that's the upside down like you see on Stranger Things or the or the higher vibrating world, which is hotter than hell. So Hell is cold and freezing, sad and miserable, and then the higher vibrating is too hot. So everybody is trying to come into this perfect zone that we live in and the electromagnetic spectrum in the visible world that we live in. I just received this message. It's someone in commented someone that I know. He's the one that makes my music and everything, my friend Devin, he's being a band with him. He commented that he thought it was strange that Rumble wasn't working during the debates or whatever, because a lot of people that are against a certain president was going to use this platform to have their live streams going on at the same time to talk about how they didn't like the president, and conveniently this was down, he said. And it's not like he cares one way or the other for either one of the people, but he just saw the strange that the people that are more right leaning use this podcast or this platform. And now he just sent me a screenshot his comment had been removed by Facebook. He commented on my post, and now Facebook just removed his comment because it says looks like you tried to get likes and follows and share videos and views was misleading way. So his comment to me about how it was taken down or how Rumble wasn't working because of the debate was removed by Facebook. That's so freaking weird. Well that's the kind of stuff that kind of woke me up in twenty twenty. Man, when all this stuff was going on was I kind of went, oh, man, we're being manipulated a major way, and that it freaked me the hell out. I took a step back and went like, because, because what you just said about Facebook deleting something, right, I remember posting about something and I won't say it because I don't want you to get kicked off of whatever platform. But it was it was a fact. It was a hard hard or so it was a cold hard, fat right. It was like something about Obama and an organization that he used to run called Organizing for Action, and my post was deleted from Facebook. I had never experienced anything being deleted. And then that was deleted, and I posted again, and within a minute it was deleted again, and I immediately got off all platforms because I went like, what in the world is going on here? You know, it freaked me to hell out. And then it's only goten weird since you know we're talking about with Biden for example, I mean, he there's been so many times where it looks like there's a body devil or him wearing a mask, or there's some kind of a filter over his face, and it seems like nobody's talking about that, but I see it because I in my world, I do Photoshop web design, you know, I deal with these different these different Adobe Illustrator and these different Adobe platforms. And whenever I saw the state of the State of the Union address and from this year, from twenty twenty four, I didn't watch the whole thing, but I watched a clip of it and you could clearly see this filter over his face that made him look different, and I just went like, man, what the hell is going on here? This makes it like why would they be doing this? And also can people not see this same thing that I'm seeing because it's pretty pretty evident to me. But why are they doing that? And so that blows my mind? Man, And yeah, it's almost like why take why take away the debate? Is it because it's too powerful that the movement of you know, kind of like what we were talking about before the show. Is the movement too powerful? It's going to is it is too much information come up to us at one time going to wake us up too fast, if that makes any sense. And if we wake up too fast to the information, is it going to cause like because we're all electromagnetic energy, we're all light beings. So if we if our souls wake up at the same time, if everybody wakes up at the same time, it's almost like waking someone up from a dead sleep and they just go, oh my god, what's going on? That would be the same way as if everybody woke up at the same time. But what would that cause? Would that cause some kind of a major catastrophe or you know what I mean, would some veil around us be shattered? You know? Or we'd be able to see into the unseen worlds that keep creeping into our realities that you know, happened daily on a daily basis for everybody, and it seems like these things are happening more and more and more. So I don't mean to mean to hijack your live stream, but no, it's cool. There's not very many people watching, but again, there wasn't very many followers on this Rumbles. I just had to make it the other day because it wasn't allowed to say certain things. Apparently our guests can't say things on recorded interviews during YouTube's, so that's why the stream isn't doing now on there. But I will throw that out there. There is a number you can call. The number you can talk with. Brad and I were on here. You got anything you want to talk about? But I'm not sure what was going on earlier. I just thought it was strange that Rumbles this big platform and the whole thing was down right when this was supposed to start. So it's almost like it I was cursed to not do a live stream tonight. That's kind of how I felt. Feel like it was happening because of the whole YouTube thing and then without working like I'm just not supposed to do a live stream tonight. I don't know that was a universal way of saying, don't do it, but I don't listen someone that. Do you know exactly what was that got you suspended from YouTube? Yes? I do know what got me suspended from YouTube, and if I say it on here, it'll I don't know if I'll get me suspended on here or not, but I don't think it will go. Basically, the guests that i'd interviewed last year, it was like almost a year and a half ago. They banned the episode because he talked about how his mother had died from getting the jabs or whatever, and she had all her fruits and vegetables, all her vitamins and her vaccinations and all that other stuff, and she was fine, but then she still got sick and then sadly passed away. I edited all that out because it claims I was releasing misinformation medical misinformation they like. Because that's when the episode aired, I already got a warning from YouTube, and they banned the episode and sent me a warning claim if I released anything else like that, they're going to suspend my account. Well, I released the episode again on Sunday as one of my second Look Sunday episodes because it had never been released before because of that, but I edited him all that stuff that he'd talked about edited out. But towards the beginning of the episode, apparently I overlooked the fact that he said that he thought Trump was a great president, he did good things, but he just believes he's the anti Christ, and he says God talks to him everything, and he thinks these vaccinations that they're making people take, you're basically taking the mark of the beast. That is what red flag at this time. That is literally the where they sent the time stamp of what was wrong with the episode instead of spreading misinformation again. So that is why I got banned from YouTube for seven days. If it happens again, I'll get banned again for two weeks. And if it happens again, they'll shut down my channel. That's why I don't even use them. I mean, I really don't do in this set. At some point, people have to go, you know what, which is listen. That's why people are on Rumble. That's why everybody's moving over to Rumble. But it's it's unfortunate because YouTube does have such a strong presence online and you can't and it's inescapable when it comes to it's everywhere. I mean, you cut on your TV, it should be some kind of anti trust laws against that. Or when you cut on your TV, it's like one of the apps. They're installed automatically no matter what TV you get. You know, I have Google TV. That was how we stream stuff at home, like we don't have satellite. We actually have Google. Now I want to cancel them because they can kiss my hats. But that's my point. It's an anti trust thing, and I think there was a I think there was some legislation that that was recently just passed, I mean, just to get rid of that, because it became you know, when you get a phone, now you it's it's automatically installed on your phone. Google's automatically installed on all your phones. It seems like, so you don't give you much of choice to do anything. Luckily, there are some platforms that are starting to implement Rumble and to you know, sign up for like like opus clip for example, that I you know, we clip up episode. When I clip up episodes, now I'll use opus clip and opus clip will give you the option to upload them straight to Rumble, which is pretty impressive because you know, that means that they're taking people are taking Rumble more seriously. Now, that's not Yeah, it's not just a platform to be overlooked anymore. I'm looking at Steven Crowder's stream right now and it says there's you know, one hundred and twenty three thousand people in there right now, or one hundred and fifty four thousand, so we have two clearly, Well, what's up to y'all? What's going on you guys? I said, Crystal's in here, and I don't know who the other person is, but it says there's two unless it's one of us because it has maybe it's counting me because the windows open, Crystal may be the only person watching. But what's up, Crystal? I think hopefully the Rumble thing catches on. I know a lot of people have recommended it to, like come on there and everyone. I told everyone to try and sub but I've only got like seventeen subs on Rumble right now. But I did put your episode on Rumble, the one you did with me and thank you, isn't it. I have the one that came out on Tuesday and the one that will come out tomorrow but will be out at midnight. But other than that I don't have anything else uploaded to rumble because after Sunday everything will start uploading back to YouTube. But until they decide to get offended to someone. That's the thing. If I would have said it myself, I would understand it. But I'm not the one that said it, and I tried to even edit it out, but that one screw up of saying whatever, and I still get taken down. But think about the think about they what they're doing to us, man, I mean, you know, to just so we can't even say words. That's that's the worst kind of you know, dictatorship you could possibly live under. And so I just don't even I don't abide by their same rules. Man, I just don't listen to them they have. That's why I'm not watching the Base tonight because they have no effect on me whatsoever. That they are not my reality. My reality exists within my own mind, within my end. I can project whatever reality out and I'm doing it and it does not involve politicians whatsoever. And so when people get on these you know, these different shows, and it's always politics this or this, that and the other. It's never nobody's ever talking about stuff that can raise vibrations. Nobody's ever talking about, like how to tune the noise out and look inward, right, look inward towards the light of God, or look in word towards yourself and then really literally project your own reality. Because I think that's what we're doing. I think we're little projectors of reality. And like I told you before, like we're these people are trying to manifest. They're trying to get us to manifest reality because they cannot do it themselves. Are the only ones who can create in this world nothing, you know, none of these other things can, and so they are literally trying to get us to tune our minds into whatever they want. And once you stop playing their game, then the whole world opens up for you. It's and it's unlimited possibilities. You literally rise to a different level and you become a different person. And when you start doing that, it's amazing the things that come into your life and the people that come into your life, because you know, whatever vibe, whatever you set your antenna too, that's what is going to happen if you if you can. And I hate using the word manifest because it is an overused word, but that's really, what the word is is when you when you like attracts like, positive attracts positive, negative attracts negative. And and I can't believe that I didn't see that my whole life. You know, people always say birds of a feather flock together, that kind of stuff. That's what they mean. They're they're literally telling you, if you're going to be around negative people, negative things will happen in your life over and over and over and it'll be a never ending cycle. And when I was growing up, man, we you know, we lived in low income apartments and we lived in double y we live in trailer parks. We lived in a double wide down a dirt road, and you know, we had family friends who did better than us. And I just remember my family always like, oh, well, it must be nice. They must be doing this, or they must be doing that. But what I what I realized as I got older, was that they were being negative instead of just going, oh good for them and being grateful for what we have and having gratitude for everything we have. You know, once people, once I started doing that, once I started having gratitude for everything in life, like it, my whole world changed. And so I think that more people need to talk about that stuff, and which is why I started this podcast, because nobody's talking about that. People are don't get me wrong, But in the world of you know, I think everybody who listens to these kinds of shows, everybody who listens to your show, I'm a listener of the types of shows like yours and everything. I was trying to listen. The reason I was listening to was because I was trying to figure out. I was trying to learn about reality. Everybody's trying to figure out the same thing. What is this? What is going on here? You know? And so we're trying to figure out reality, but nobody's really talking about, like how can we change our realities? I think that people when people have when people are damaged in life, that's when they see paranormal things or have paranormal encounters. And the reason that is is because you're at a lower vibration. People who who vibrate higher aren't going to see that stuff people, And I just I really mean that, but I think it takes I don't think you can come to that information of what I just said unless you go through the darkness first, if that makes any sense. So, but that's what the whole point of my message is trying to be. And I think I'm right when I say that that's what everybody's listening to these kinds of shows for. There's a thrill in listening to this stuff, of course, but there's also a deeper understanding of who we are and where we're from that people are more concerned about, like what does this all mean? I feel like the people that are interested in stuff like this have had some sort of experience in life that led them to where they're at. I want to listen to stuff like this because if they didn't have an experience of anything. I'm not saying like paranormal or scripted or anything weird, but something happened that made them fascinated with the unknown, like them question things that it's spirituality or religions or history or anything like that. Something has fascinated them to want to look into these strange French topics. And I think the further they get into it, and I don't want to sound cliche or whatever, but it almost becomes like it's a rabbit hole that you just keep going further, you keep diving into, and the more and more you go down, the more and more you learn, and the more you become open minded to things, and then in some people's cases, they start doing podcasts and here we are. But like for me, I never listened to a podcast in my life. I who knew who Joe Rogan was, but that was that was Joe Rogan. I was a guy from I think it was Fear Factor and he's announcer from UFC. That's how I knew Joe Rogan. He's a standing up comedian and you just interviewed people and he had like all these celebrities and stuff on there. So I didn't think much of it. I didn't want to listen to people talk. I thought I was dumb, and it wasn't up until four years ago I started actually listening to podcasts. And in the last four years I've become a lot more aware of things in the sense that I always had my own opinions and everything else, but I never listened to a whole lot of stuff from people's experiences are about a lot of things that I've been fascinated with. So for me, listening to other people talk has been able to make me more connected. I feel like with what's going on around here more open minded to it, more in touch with and more in tune. Yeah, it's definitely like a family. Man, It's really cool, like I've since I started podcasting. Man, it's it's like a family that I didn't have before. Like I have a great family. Don't get wrong, But what I'm saying is, like, you know, as an adult, you don't really have a lot of friends. You kind of get, you know, you kind of get out of the you know, you don't really go out and meet people that kind of stuff, and especially in this world, you can kind of get. You can kind of feel isolated when you haven't a when you have a thing happened to you when you see a dog man or you know, have a shadowy figure approach you in your room, or see an or but whatever whatever it is, you know, those those things, I don't know, man, I think those things are again they're designed too like it like I've had I've had, I've lost friends. I've had four of my best friends die early on. And so maybe you're right there is some kind of a thing that leads you down to question life and question reality and you know, delve deep into the topics that we're talking about. But so I didn't have once those friends died, I didn't have friends, right, I didn't have a lot of friends to talk about this kind of stuff. When I didn't, I just didn't. I didn't like feeling isolated because I would get around family barbecues and stuff, and I would talk about this stuff and people go, oh, here we go again. You know, it just became it came. It became annoying because I was again trying to wake everybody up. But I realized as I got as life went on, was that you can't wake everybody up. Not everybody's prepared for the message of of what you. Everybody has to come to it when they're ready. Right, Your stories are here for when people are ready to come to them. And all we can do is plant little seeds of information and let that seed I will, I see it. I do it all the time. Two years ago, I'd say something to somebody, and then you know, today I'll talk to them and they'll they'll say the same thing that I told them two years ago, and so that thought has literally grown in their mind unto where now they think it's their original thought. And so but again that led them, that leads them them down the path of Okay, well, let's start somewhere. Let's start at conspiracy. You know, they can see clearly something crazy is going on. And then they and then they eventually go down to you know, the the paranormal route. And then they go down from the paranormal route, they usually go to the spirituality route. So, but it takes time. It took me twelve years to get down to the spirituality path. But and I'm still super interested in all the other stuff, but it only it's only those things are only only stepping stones to help me on my spiritual journey, if that makes any sense, because that's what I literally feel like it is, is a spiritual journey for everybody. But and everybody seems like they're n PCs because they're not. They're just like they're they they're they're not even ready to grow yet. They're not ready to grow spiritually. And so it feels like it feels like we're in a different reality than those people. Because we are in a different reality. We've literally come a long waist in our spiritual growth. We might be, you know, on page fifty four of the book, and they might be on page one or five or ten. So we have to understand that in this book, we're not better than anybody. We're just on a different plane of existence, of vibrating on a different level. And so I think when these things happen to us, they happen to us to start us down this journey or to start us down this path. And then eventually you have to start accepting these things. And once you start accepting these things as okay, this is real, paranormal is real, Okay, then you start getting like these little signs and synchronicities that go, yeah, you know, keep going down this path. This is the path you're supposed to be on. It's like a spiritual guide on the other side that's nudging you in the right direction. And so eventually you will get to a spiritual place. And then eventually you'll get past that spiritual place. I'm sure. I'm sure there's a there's different levels past the spiritual place, but that's where I'm at now, and I think that's where a lot of people are heading. But if if you're if you're there or not yet, or whether you're there or not is a different is a different thing, I mean, but I think it takes a lot to get to that next level. It takes like a moment of clarity or realization or something something bad has to happen to you in life again for you to to to uh, you know, almost question, To be honest with you, I think that. I think again, this is why I question reality a lot of times because I feel like when when you do elevate to another level, somebody has to die or somebody has to be sacrificed to go to that other level. I don't necessarily mean die, I just literally sometimes I mean that. Like my dad died in February twenty twenty three, and it was not until my dad died that my mom I felt like was elevated spiritually, that makes any sense to where she started seeing things in her backyard and she still sees them. She called me one night and she had a UFO in her backyard and you know, she was on FaceTime with me, so I sat there and watched it with her. But she said, I see these things that all the time. Now she sees shadowy figures in her backyard. She sees hundreds of orbs just about every seven o'clock every night. Her neighbor, who also just lost her husband, were standing in the yard talking together one night and they both had a shadowy encounter or they both jumped and grabbed each other at the same time. Z what is that? And they said it was just an outline of a person standing at the edge of the woods and in the trees there was hundreds of orbs flying around. So my mom has never she's lived in the same spot for sixty years, she's never seen any anything like that ever until my dad died. So that can that don't That makes me think that when you elevate to another level of spirituality, something happens you have to lose something in order to gain that knowledge, if that makes any sense. Yeah, I agree with them. Sometimes I'll babble on on try to get to a point, but nah, it's a web of weird thoughts in my head that you know, have to travel down and get to something first. But I will drop it out here again. If anyone would like to talk with Brad and Ira have questions, you can call six four six nine three one three eight six zero and then it we'll ask you for a meeting ID it is eight three five three five nine six two nine four nine And when you do that, you'll hop on here with us. You won't be on the screen, but we can hear you talking to us, and then you can join in on the conversation. So, for anyone out there listening, if you would like to join live again, the number is on the screen, give us a call. But if you did have some technical difficulties, for about a half hour, we were delayed, So I don't know how many people were actually able to hop on here and watch, But right now we've got six people, which I'm happy with that just because that's almost half of my subscribers at this point. So but yeah, I will wait till Brad gets back, but I still can see the live chat. Crystal asked if we believe that we have spiritual gifts. I think some people do. I think some people are able to tap into the other sides and see things a little bit more clear than other people. I don't know if that's because they're more in tune with how life actually is, or if they have something more going on. But I've always been skeptical when it comes to people that claim they're psychics and mediums and able to talk to people on the other sides and other things like that. I think a lot of people were at least my age, maybe around Brad's age. You remember the nineties and when you had Miss Cleo calling out for your free reading bullshit that would be popping up on the TV and everything. And that's that's my picture of a psychic in a medium or whatever, like someone calling you and telling you a bunch of crap. But I do believe there are actual people out there that can really do this. They have the ability to see and too I don't know what to actually call it, but they can see into something that we can't really see. They're in tune with the rest of the reality around us. I think we all have these I think we're all born with the same abilities to create and to move things with our voices. We used to, I think we used to speak with each other telepathically, and then at some point, which I think was the story of the Tower of Babel, we lost the ability to speak to each other. Because the story of Tower of Babel, you know, they lost they all they could all talk to each other. So they started, you know, building a tower to heaven, and God knocked the tower down, and now they couldn't speak to each other again because they couldn't speak telepathically. But I think we used to be able to move things with our voices. I think that we used to with simatics, with harmonization. I think churches used to to be like hospitals. It used to be healing centers. I don't think they've always been churches. I think that they the buildings themselves are simatically literally geometrically perfect, and they are designed from sound, and so they have perfect harmonization in them. That's why they have choirs, that's why they have organs, because it's all designed to heal you and to get you to back to a closer to a regular vibration. And if we all vibrate and we're and we're constantly bombarded with noise and in frequency, it's literally throwing off our vibrations. We all have resonant frequencies, and they're constantly putting out dissonant frequencies, like through this garbage debate tonight. That's that's another dissonant frequency to get you all discombobulated or whatever word you want to use to scramble your brain. Because we've all had those moments where we're thinking of somebody and then all of a sudden they call or you know, unfortunately, when you're thinking of somebody and they die the next day. So we all have that ability and those come through only from time to time. They don't always come through, but they don't always come through because think about how much frequency is around us right now. I mean, you and I are in an office with screens and lights and cameras and fans, and you know, literally that's where the that's where the tenfoil hat you know you come from was. People would wear aluminum foil to keep out the the frequency that was scrambling their brains. That's what that means. That's what that's about. And so it literally is and not only not only do we have our brains scramble, but we have frequency in our pockets, and we always have electromagnetic radiation poisoning our thought process. And it's not until and that's why people go to the beach, and that's why people go on hikes, because what happens on those things. They get closer to God. They they can hear things better, they can sense things better. They're back to their closer to a vibrational an original vibration, vibratory state than what they've been in. And the people in power know this, and they're doing everything they can to scramble our frequency all the time. That's why they ban people from YouTube, That's why they ban people from all these other platforms because they don't want us all harmonizing. Because when we harmonize together, we move mountains, literally literally move mountains. And I mean like, that's how they built the pyramids, That's how they lifted those two million stones and put them in place, was through harmonization. So I think we're all special one hundred percent. And I think that there are some people who have been able to control their frequency better than others. And when we pray and when we do all these other things that we used to do a long time ago, it was to get us. You know, the ohms for example, from the mandalas the ohms own that is designed to vibrate you back to a regular frequency, back to your normal frequency. And so yeah, I think we're all special one hundred percent. We all have these abilities. We just forgot how to use them a long time ago. It's like that movie Upward, I believe, the Disney movie where right where all the they are, all the blue people whatever, all the mystical mythical creatures are all. They all forgot how to use their special powers and then and then all of a sudden they rediscover themselves. I think that's what they're keeping us from. They're keeping us from the fact that we can do all these things. We can go, we can we can astral travel into different dimensions, we can speak to each other telepathically, and I don't think they want any of that. They want to keep us in this constant loop of, you know, go to work. We're slaves to a system that we didn't even we subconsciously bought into because it was ingrained in our families DNA, and that programming, unfortunately, was passed down to us through DNA, and so we automatically buy into these systems that we didn't initially agree to. We've consented to something that we had no say so in when we're born. By the way, when you look up person in the Black Slaw Dictionary, which is the dictionary that they that lawyers use, if you look at person, it says see monster, as in see the word monster. And then if you go to the word monster, it'll say a corporation. And so that's an interesting thought that like, we're just corporate corporations in the corporation of the United States. So none of us have none of us know our true you know our true freedom. We've all signed the contract. We've a birth certificate, is the contract right. We've all signed our lives, our freedom over to this system. But we have to untangle ourselves from this system and start realizing that there's none of this stuff is real. They've all we have the power of consent, we have free will. So you have to just say, I don't buy into it anymore. I don't accept that as reality. And that's how we get back, in my opinion, back to our who we really are. So long story, but I mean a long roundabout way. But what do you believe? I know you're like you come from a Christian type background. Do you believe that I saw this earlier? When people die, they claim you see a light at the end of the tunnel. Do you believe that you're supposed to go to that light? Because apparently there's a new thing going on now where people are against going to the light, because that is you are going into back to be recycled through the light again and you're coming back here. It's like almost like reincarnation. I guess to an extent, like this is something they're putting you back into, Like you're not really supposed to go to the light because it just sends you right back into another form, another body, Your soul goes back again, and you read to live life again as someone else. Have you heard of that? I've heard what they called it, but I just saw it earlier today. I've never seen that aspect to it. But they the picture that someone had posted was actually like little lizard people like reptility and people making you go to the light. Yeah, that's what that's the archons that I was just talking about, you know, a gnosissism, the archons. So gnostics believe that the archons were created by the demiurge, you know, within this material world, and they think that you're they're trying to continue to stay in this rate. They're trying to keep you in this reality. So they manipulate your your your physical universe in order to keep you in this reality. So I don't know about seeing the light. I've talked to people who've had near death experiences, and when they say they see the light, it's not the same like some people think that's just a light at the end of the tunnel kind of thing, and it's not really that. What it it really is is people kind of zoom through. They call this tunnel. They're shooting up through the different dimensions and when they get to this the source, the Creator, God, the Source. That's a different thing than seeing the light and getting reincarnated back into this you know, never ending prison planet or whatever. To help people want to call it, I think that there is a light, that God is the source. He is the light. Like I I'm not really I'm not really religious believe it. I mean I would call myself a Christian. It's more like a it's more like a gnostic Christian, right, it's more like a mystic Christian. Or I guess you could say, like I believe that there's one source and that's God, and God is light and light is everything He's it's within every living thing and not living thing on earth. So I think God is within all of us and that's light, and he says it a thousand times in the Bible. God is light over and over. But as far as seeing the light, I think there might be something to that that, you know, going to going down that tunnel and seeing the light, because I think that the devil, I don't think it says it in the Bible. The devil would try to pass himself off as an angel of light. So it's possible that when you die, you might be confronted with something like that, like a choice to go back, you know, to Earth and be reincarnated into Earth again, or you know, go past that if you can look past that, because the devil may trick you when you die in the afterlife and thinking and in thinking that the Light of God is him, but it's really not so, because when people have those near death experiences and they see the Light of God, they describe it in a different way than than the light it than in the tunnel it. They go to this waiting room almost and you're greeted by someone first, and that that person you see first is someone that you've that you recognize from your past. It. Some people even say they see Elvis or Paul Walker or some other celebrity, but typically it's like a grandma or an aunt or somebody said one time they see they saw a school teacher that they knew, and they're usually like, hey, don't worry, everything's okay. They kind of comfort them and welcome them. And then they open this other door and it goes into this field. In this field, there's it's the most beautiful field they've ever seen. And then there and then a light approaches, and the light as the light approaches, it's they say, it's colors they've never seen before. It's bright, it's beautiful, it's like and then a voice comes from there and they feel like the energy is masculine, but it's but they don't really know, they can't really describe it. And then God does a life review and it's like a panoramic of televisions that appear in front of you, and God gives them a life review. If he gives you a life review, and God doesn't judge you, God asks one question, did you learn how to love? Everybody says the same thing. God wust know if you learned how to love. It doesn't care about anything else. So I think that seeing a light at the end of the tunnel is different than actually dying. According to people who've had near death experiences, like, I think those are two Those might be two different things. And so you know, because when people say that they are in the presence of God, it's like the most beautiful, warm feeling they've ever had, and they don't have a care this world, and they don't want to go back. Typically, like my very close friend of mine it was in my wedding, had one and he never told anybody until I mentioned it to him that I knew all about this stuff and he said, I described it to a te which was basically that God gives you the option come back, and you don't want to come back, typically because you know it's so perfect there. So I think I think people will be able to our souls will be able to differentiate, especially if you're spiritually ready to accept God. You know, I don't. I don't think that. I think that people who aren't or who might be confused might see a light. I obviously don't know any of this. I'm just speaking out my ass about this in terms of seeing the light. But I would imagine that you have to be spiritually ready because when you because when you see God, you just you just know that that's God. Because like when I have feelings here on earth, when when I'm very instinctual, like I know things without really knowing them, and I don't know how or why, I just know and that's the that's the gnostic. The nois is just knowing when something happened. You Like, I know that was God that gave me that direction. I know that that was a spirit guy that told me, or that showed me an angel number or showed me something. So it's just a knowing. And I don't think that that knowing. I don't think you just have that knowing. I think that's something that it's you have to work towards. I don't remember if we talked about it on the episode that you were on with me or maybe it was on yours. But like I've always struggled with the concept that God created everything knowing full well like we have free choice, like free will, but he also had to have made the devil. Therefore he would have to create evil because he if he knows everything that was going to happen, he would have known that Lucifer, what is going to rebel? So why were we put on earth to live with free will? But ultimately, however we choose to be He already knows what's going to happen, but we have free will, but we're here to see if we make it through life, and then if we can figure out what love is. We talk to God and we can go on to the next, to the Afterlill, what is the point of us to even be here in the first place? If we're here to learn, if we have free will? Like, what was the point of the humanity in general? Like that's where I keep coming back, Like there's no answer, there's no definitive answer, No one really knows, but it's like it just makes me frustrated when everyone's like, Oh, we got to live this way, this way for God? Are we here for his amusement? That's where I struggle with, Like he created the angels, he wanted to make us something in his image, so he put us here. And then you had it was Adam's first wife because it wasn't Eve, Yeah, yeah, allegedly. I mean, I don't know. That's good, I think. And then you had Lilith. I don't know what happened to her. Then she get killed or some became like the queen of the underworld or whatever. And they claim there's been a lot of things about Lili that's come out here here and there. People want to pick things up. But when it comes to Adam and Eve, and then you have Cain, killed Abel, like there was already all these evil things going on from the get go. It's like, I don't know where I'm going with other than the fact like I don't understand, like if you buy into everything that the Bible has told of people from how it was written, where do you come to terms with the fact that there was already evil created and God had to have created that evil because if he is the master creator of everything, there would have been no evil. But then you get on the hang up and people like, well, what created God? No one knows what is God? Like, it's just one of those things that, yeah, but something has to exist. I mean, we just didn't come from nothing exactly. You know. I think that we're God experiencing himself, to be honest with you, That's what I feel like is true. But and I saw and I'm like, I wish I could give credit to the part we lost half of the audience. We had like eleven people in here. Now we're down the floor. It's probably me, dude, I ramble a lot. But and I wish I could give somebody credit for this that I don't remember his name. I saw it on a video one time and he explained it well. He said that Christ, or the consciousness, this sord of God is the ocean, and we're just like if you just take a cup and scoop a little bit of water out of that ocean, that's us. We're a soul. We're just part of God experience in himself. And I don't know why that would be. You know, maybe I'm wrong, and maybe we're just individual souls. But I think that when we die, our consciousness merges back with the rest of consciousness. And I think that christ consciousness is what I'm talking about. It's the spirit that connects us here on earth. We're all connected on this Christ consciousness plane, you know, but we we're all separated. And so I don't know, man, I think that that's the way I see it in my mind, is we're just God experience of himself in these little vessels, you know. And I think I think it is a purse, our purpose to to experience and and learn how to love. So that's the only explanation I have. I don't really have anything deeper than that, but that makes the most sense to me. And I just don't know, but I but I do feel, and I think feeling if you start allowing yourself to feel the universe and experience and the experience the universe versus just going by the norm of however everybody else operates. You know, you can read about a baseball game in books. You get all the bag. The baseball game is this, it's amazing. You get to eat popcorn and you know, sing at the seventh inning, strets and all this stuff. But you don't know what that's like until you actually go out to a baseball game. So, I think our purpose is to experience life. It is to go out and live our lives and do whatever it is that makes us love unconditionally and love at the at our highest frequency. I guess you could say enough say that over and over. But so and it happens to me all the time, man, and whenever I start living my life and experience in life, Dude, unbelievable things happen to me. I did it this week. I continue to do it. I told you I have a famous person on my show soon. So and I don't those things don't They just it feels surreal when they happen to people Like I was on the show Stranger Things. You know I've been on I've done so many different things, and people when I tell people about the things I've done, they don't understand it because I don't think they can understand it because you have to live in the experience of God. You have to and also be a vessel for God, and so experience, enjoy life, but also be a vessel for God. And once you do that, I think people, I think God rewards you with stuff. Man. That's the best way. I mean, I went on a whim again. Every time I go somewhere, just like, yeah, I'm just gonna go do that. It's like that movie Yes Yes, Man with Jim Carrey. As soon as you start saying yes to everything, it's just unbelievable how your world opens up. And so I think that's experiencing God versus just sitting back and waiting on life to happen to you. It's time for people to get out and start experiencing that. And I think everybody knows what I'm talking about, people who listen to the show. I'm sure people who everybody goes and works a job they don't want to do. Even people who do podcast like us and have very large followings, they're still doing the nine to five job, and I'm like, what makes you happy? And they're like doing this show and I'm like, then, why aren't you doing that? I don't understand that. And I'm not saying that just you know, obviously people have families and stuff to feed. But when you take a chance on anything in life and start experiencing the world, God will make sure that you always have enough always. I started, I've started my own business seven years ago, and I was I started off with fifty cent, but man, I had this overwhelming faith that no matter what, I'm going to be fine. And every time my account gets down to one dollar or whatever it is, God provides somehow, in some way, a big job will come through, or I'll sell something, or like something happens in my life where it's just like unexpected, I found one hundred and fifty dollars one day, right, It's like that's when stuff like that just continues to happen to you, you can't say it's chance and so. And I think that comes from vibrating at a higher level, just experiencing God, you know, and just letting God use you for his will, because not only will the good things happened to me, but he will put me in places right at the moment. And something happened this week and I won't mention it because I don't want to brag about it or anything. But there was a moment where I stopped at a gas station and somebody needed something and I was right there at that moment, and it didn't hesitate, and it just did it and didn't think twice about it. That's what I'm talking about. It's just being when being ready to be, to serve whenever you're it's listen. It's even weird saying this stuff to me because I've never been like this my whole life. You know, I'm very much sports guy. You know, in high school I was all of the jock. I was one of the jocks. I've always been my whole life, just care free about like everything in this world. Been religious, but not really religious to the point of I am as I am now. I'm not religious but spiritual. And so to hear myself talk like this sometimes it's surprising. And so people who have known me for forty years when they hear me, they're like, who are you? Because that's how I feel too. I don't know who I am anymore. I'm just letting myself be used by God however he wants me to. And life is different now and I can't explain how it's different. I'm just in a different place spiritually, and I just literally go with the flow. Man. I don't turn down interviews often unless there's something going on. I just I'm going to film a documentary next week with my little brother, and I'm just fucking letting life happen to me. I mean, I'm just making life happen and I'm not letting life happen to me anymore. And from that NonStop, I'm rewarded. But also it's important when you're rewarded to, for one, have gratitude about what you have, what's coming to you. And then also too, when you have an abundance of anything, to give it away, to give whatever that abundance is. You have a beautiful baritone voice to talk to people, you know, you have a lot of stuff to share with people. That's abundance. And when you have an abundance of anything, dude, I have an abundance of baseball cards literally all over my office everywhere, and over and over I give to kids. I'm just like, here, take these cards and they're worth money. Someone'm worth one hundred dollars, five hundred dollars. I'm like, just take it like it doesn't because I know when I have an abundance of anything, when you have an abundance of anything, and when God is telling you to do this at that moment. Another example, dude, I hate that I'm hijacking your show, but I have to tell this story again because I've said it before. I'll give you a good example of this. I'm coaching a team, my son's little league team, and I didn't want to coach, but God again put me in on this team for a reason. I've fought against it. I said, I don't want to coach this team, blah blah blah, and it just had to happen. I was to coach for a reason, and it was it was the worst kids in the league, but they were but they needed me, you know. And one of the kids on my team was this Hispanic kid and I was trying to get him into baseball, so I gave him this valuable card of this Hispanic player from Mexico. And later on, once I gave that card away, didn't even think about it. My heart was just like give this kid this card. He was happy and I told him, I said, he's from Mexico, just like your family, you know, because the kid, he's first generation United States, you know, American citizens, and so he was very proud. He was very happy. And later on that night, the guy that was on the baseball card that I gave to the kid, his dad bought a baseball card from me off of eBay and we became friends. The next thing, you know, I'm friends with his son, the baseball player, and we're invited to baseball games and where it's it's unbelievable that these things happen. And now all of a sudden, I'm friends just from one moment of kindness to this kid with an open heart and not care, not wanting anything in return. I was giving something as a reward, you know, by by meeting these people and becoming friends with them. So it's not an accident that that happened. I gave that card away, and then the same night that guy's dad messaged me on eBay and bought a card from me. So I'm just telling you that when you start living for God and not for yourself, when you start living for others and not for yourself. That has to be part of it, because continuously, over and over again, it's just weird saying all this stuff because it's not historically who I've been. But it really it feels everything feels like it's you know, I'm doing all this stuff for a reason. I'm doing this podcast for a reason, man. And once I've jumped into the podcast scene, it was like everything is just going way too good, and it doesn't make any sense because sometimes I have better success than people who've been doing it for five or six or ten years, and it doesn't make any sense to me. And the only thing I could think of is that I'm being used as a beacon of light for others to see, you know, like to set up a lamp post along somebody's path. That's all. That's what I feel like I'm being used for now, and I'm here doing it. And so I don't mind doing anybody's show and talking to whoever. I don't even care if that what they've said in the past, I don't care what they said in the future. All I'm here to do is talk to somebody at the right moment. And when I'm on these big shows, these bigger shows, you know, like I've been on the ten Fold Hat podcast or Confessionals or shows like yours. People will reach out to me and they'll go and I heard you on this show and that touched me because of the this, and that makes me feel good. That makes me feel like I'm doing I don't care about money. I want to make enough to pay for the podcast, but I don't I don't, you know, I don't really want to make money, you know what I mean, how I am And then but again it's just okay, just use me how you want. God, And you know that's what I think it's all about. Man, It's all about love. It's all about giving back, and I think it's just God experiencing himself. So if I could do the podcast full time, which I could basically do anyways, but I still have a time job too. It's if I could get away from having to have a real job and just do this, I honestly don't know if I'd want to, because then this would become my job and am I going to enjoy it the way I do now? Because for me, this is my escape from my job, the normal eye. This is my time to come down here and talk with people that I enjoy talking with, like hearing things that I don't normally get to talk about. So for me, this is I don't want to use the term hobby, but it's became my hobby because I don't do what I used to do, which was always musing that I was my outlet. This is my outlet. So if it became my full time job and I'm making bookoo bucks, which apparently people think that's what podcasters make, I don't. I'm sorry to tell you that's not true. Maybe uh Joe Rogan does, but that's because he's Joe Rogan. And I don't think anyone was ever going to reach the levels of Brogan when it comes to podcasting. But I don't want to do it for money, Like that's not whatever it was about. Like I struggled for so long to even let the podcast have advertisements on it because I felt like a sellout. It literally took someone else doing a podcast to tell me, like, you have to look at it like you're spending money out of your pocket, so you're just recouping the money you're spending, so you're not really making money, you're just breaking even. Oh okay, well then I've got on this deal with spreaker or whatever. I've been making more than I was eating to make. So now I went and got this barn because now it's going to cover the barn payment. So again I'm not making money. I'm still investing it back into the podcast. Like That's how I've always seen it as like I don't want to try and like profit. I want to upgrade equipment, I want to buy shirts, like I'm using everything that I've ever made, like even from Patreon, Like my Patreon is a dollar ninety nine once they take their cut. I barely get a dollar from any subscriber, like I'm not trying to Most Patreons are like five seven, ten dollars. They got twenty dollars tiers, Like I don't want the money. I'm just trying to offer people. I felt bad for having advertisements on my podcast, so I made a Patreon with no ads because it's like I don't know, I just I struggle with stuff like that. Like for me, I just enjoyed doing it. I just want to enjoy it, and I don't want people to think like this dude is just about the money, Like I give a shit less about the money. But think about what you're doing. Man, Again, you're a therapist in some way listening to these stories because that's helping these people who have had these experiences in life, and you're and you're, you know, not only listening to them, but you're elevating their voice and telling everybody else in the world, Hey, this person isn't crazy. I don't think he's crazy or she's crazy. So you're you're doing you're being used in the same in a way for God's will as well, whether you feel like it or know it or not, because you're it's for a purpose. Man. You know, you have to be you have to have a certain skill set in what you do. You're a good listener and you and like I said before, you got a great voice. So when you have things like that and you have this ability to communicate with people, that's a skill that not everybody has. And so it's not a coincidence that you're doing this. Obviously you felt at some point in your life you were called to do this, which is why you put down the guitar and picked up a mic and just started talking because you wanted to reach out to people like you too, who just had experiences and just you wanted to feel normal, just like everybody else, you know, and it is normal, by the way, even if for people who haven't had experiences. I haven't had any crazy experiences that I know of that I'm aware of, but I believe every single I have no reason to doubt anything that anybody's telling me. Sometimes I can see it when people are maybe fibbing a little bit or stretching the truth, you know, But most of the time, I think people really have had experiences in life, and I have no reason to doubt them whatsoever. So you got a special skill. I just want to try and make it to where people can feel like they're people to talk about things that normally they can't talk about. Crystal said she tried calling, but it wouldn't let her in, So I don't know. Maybe I'll probably about another fifteen minutes to go. But I'm grateful for anybody who's listening right now, even if it's one person or two people, whatever it is. Thank you. It says too. It was up to eleven or twelve at one point, and then I just looked at it trickle down again. When I start talking to chicks drops well, I always think of it like, you know, people will get really concerned about like, wow, I didn't have enough used as time, or you know, let's just say it was only one hundred and fifty listens or downloads or whatever. And it's like, man, that was one hundred and fifty people. If you were standing on a stage and one hundred and fifty people were in the audience listening to you talk enlive and in person, that would be pretty special, right. So I look at it like that, man, is even if it's one person, that one person had to hear a message. You know, you you brought what did you what did you say earlier? You were like, oh, that's oh we were talking about Reagan, the Reagan Library. So many times these things happened to me in life. Where something to Reagan Library. Who who the hell talks about the Reagan Library? And then all of a sudden, a couple of days later, I'm talking about it to you, Right, It's like you had just heard a story about it. And the other day I walked up to the guy who works with my lawnmower. His name is Jeremy. I walked up to his house and I was going to drop my law more off. No we're going to change the oil and because I put too much oil in it, because I'm a dummy. And as soon as I walked up, he walks out of the house with a book in his hand and it was Weapons of Mass Instruction and walk out to the porch. He gets out of the porch, he's like, you want to take this book. I said, Oh, that's okay, man, I appreciate it. I'll, I'll that's it. That sounds interesting. I'll probably buy it or something and read it the house. You say, you keep your copy. And then two hours later I did a podcast with a girl and she talks about homeschooling and stuff, and she brought up that exact same book. So I don't look at those kinds of things as coincidences. A because I had never heard of that book in my life, and then all of a sudden, that book was shown to me, and then it was told to me on a podcast two hours later, So I don't look at and then even on that same podcast, as crazy as this sounds, my office, I have this thing on the wall. I have a couple of shelves, and I have a day Live from the movie They Live. It's a poster. It's a frame poster, but it's not hanging on the walls. It's leaning backwards against the wall. That same day that I did the podcast with that, that is the lady from Homeschool how To podcast. She heard him, Cheryl. She's that day that thing flipped off the shelf unexpectedly for no reason. Again, it's leaning backwards against the wall. It flips off the shelf and lands on the floor. And then while we were talking on the podcast, she brings up the movie and so like, again, why are those things happening all the time? Why are those signs coming in all the time. So everything's for a reason. We were put in place for a reason. People who've heard this message had to hear it at the time that they needed to hear it, no matter if they popped in and it was eleven of them, they heard that, they heard what they needed to hear, and then they popped out, right, So those those eight or nine people that popped out, they got the message that they needed and then they got out. And that's how I look at it. I don't look at it as anything other than that. And it's just all a spiritual thing for me. And once you start recognizing those things, you can't turn it off. I mean it's like everywhere, everywhere, NonStop. These signs or asynchronouses are everywhere. So I've tried telling this to people too that I talk with other podcasters that are just kind of starting out too, And my show is nowhere near as big as a lot of other people's shows. Like it does decent, it does bigger and better than I ever thought it would do. Like I don't know what happened, but the month of April I had almost you just mentioned like one hundred fifty people. I had seventeen almost seventeen thousand downloads for the month. So I don't know how much you break that down into people, like how many were listening to each episode. There's no way for me to know any of that. Like that is a huge number to me, and other people are like, well we get that in a day. Well that blows my mind. There's that many people listening to stuff, you know what I mean. So it's like, I don't know. For me, I've always just been happy with whatever I get because for someone out there that wants to listen to me, I don't. First of all, I'm like blown away someone wants to even listen to anything I'm doing. Same but like more and more people want to like again, but the people that are watching, like it's it's crazy to me that someone wants to sit here and listen to me talk or watch what I'm doing, or like you're interested in something that going on. So I've always said to people, stay humble, don't worry about your numbers. If you continue to get better, you're honest about it. You have your goal set and check like, oh, I'm gonna go out there, I'm gonna be famous podcast. No, like, you're not going to ever get to that status just because you don't have realistic expectations. You've already set limits to what you want to do because you want to achieve greatness. You want to be the best threads, which I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but come back to reality and work for it, Like, stay humble, be appreciated of everyone. And then I struggle with people that come on and want to be more than what they are, Like basically, just accept that I'm a nobody. Most likely a lot of people start out or nobodies and someday maybe if you continue to work at it and you'll achieve whatever you want to achieve. But when you come in here with the expectations that you're going to be the next Joe Rogan, you're going to get disappointed. And when you don't get those numbers, you're going to get discouraged, and you're going to stop doing it. Like, come in realistically and just accept what happens and then continue to go with it, because don't give up. That's my thing is Like I'm going on two years now. There's been plenty of times where I'm like, man, fuck this, I don't really want to do it anymore, and here I am. I keep doing it. For some reason, I am compelled to continue to do this, and I get so frustrated with it. People drop don't bother it. Hey, I can't make it on tonight, I can't do the interview, or I don't hear from anyone at all. I've had nine people drop off interviews in the last three or four weeks. That screws me on my scheduling for episodes. I could have interviewed other people who actually wanted to be on the show that I've had to push further down the line. And then you don't ever hear from anyone, So it gets frustrating, But I keep doing it because for some reason, I am compelled to keep doing it. And I don't know if that's because I feel like I have to do this. Something's making me do this. I don't know. No, it definitely is somebody making you this. God. I mean, listen, you know to say that everything is God is is it is what it is to me, It's just that's just the reality now. Man. We're just being used how God wants us to, wants us to be used, and we're open to it. And there's probably a reason why we are, you know, like I said, we're probably tuned into it and certain in a certain frequency, and we probably have this ability to talk. I was on the show last week or like ten days ago, and one of Joe Rogan's friends and also guests is also on that same show, and our numbers are identical. My views on that podcast are the same or or more than almost everybody else. They've had one hundred guests, and I think my views are the most. I keep getting messages and they're like this is unbelievable, Like what is going on? But they've had big name guests. Is my point, and those guests do some of them do less numbers than me, some of them do comparable numbers. Numbers is me, and it blows my mind. Why on earth would anybody who want to listen to me whatsoever? Like you said, dude, like it makes zero sense to me because when I hear myself talk, I sound like a babbling idiot. But like I said, man, we're just being used. It's like when you I think of it, like what you were saying just now about working towards something. It's like when you work out. I used to work out. I used to be in pretty good shape when I was in the military. I went to I was going to school when I was in the military. I was in an exercise science degree and I had to take some nutrition in drugs classes and one of them was a nutrition drugs class that had this doctor and he broke it down Barney style for me and explained everything. He's like, you know, people will get on these fad diets, for example, and they'll lose weight, but it comes right back and what he said, if you exercise for an extended period of time and just do it the hard way, you know eventually that weight will stay off, it's not going to ever come back. And he's absolutely right. I mean, fifteen twenty years later, you know, the stuff, the hard work I put in for ten fifteen years working working out, still stays with me. I'm still in good shape because I put in the work or early on, you know. And that's what I think is going on with like Rogan or somebody like that. It's the authenticity of things too. It's the genuinely not wanting or caring that you do any kind of success or numbers, like you just want to talk and get your ideas out there to the world. I was. I got tired of just emailing people, dude, and I would be like, hey, man, you really ought to think about talking about this, and nobody was responding to me whatsoever. And I finally was like, I need to just, dude, I just need to just start talking on my own. And once I did, man, that opened the floodgates. It became like everybody wanted to talk. Everybody would not wanted to talk. Everybody was open to talk. They would open my emails. I can think of five different podcasters that I've been on their podcast now that didn't didn't even respond to me before I was before I started a podcast, And it's odd and I haven't told any of them that. I haven't told any of them that I've reached out to them before and that they've not responded to me. But I just want I want people to know when people reach out to me, I do try to respond. I do try to talk to people because it matters, man, even if even if you will never come on the show, even if like I still will email you back because it matters. It matters to talk to people because people might need some encouragement or something at a particular time. So who am I to ignore a message? Know, if they felt compelled to email me, I feel compelled to write them back kind of things. So what is it? I've been getting bad about responding to people on Facebook just because I get so many messages on there. I don't know why, ever, since I made that other account, and a lot of the time I don't even know if the real people as bad as it sounds like. There's so many pots and so email is always the best way for someone to reach out to me. And recently someone sent me a really, really long email and I've been trying to read through it but there was no spaces in it. And for me, I'm I struggle to read things that are super long that aren't like broken up. So I'm going to have to break up the email personally, like just so I can read it, because like when I tried to do it, it was like I'd put it in. It's like something I have a bot that'll read to me instead of going to take thirty minutes for it to read all this email to me is like, holy shit, I do want thirty minutes to sit here and let this thing read to me. So I haven't had a chance to sit down and read this email. But when I do, I'm probably going to reach out to the person that, hey, if you want to tell me all that stuff in an interview, we'll get something scheduled. But like, I don't mind when people send me everything in an email, but I'd rather not know what they're going to talk about, Like I want an idea of like what we're going to talk about, but I don't need to know the whole thing. Like when I contacted you, I never listen to anything that you'd been on at that point, because I think at that you'd only been on Tony's show and uh Mark's show, and I'd sell you off from Mark's show. And I was like I listened to like the first like five or ten minutes of I was like, I don't want to listen anymore. I was like, I'm not try and reach out to this guy. I want even to come on my show and talk about it, because this is something that I find very interesting. And that's how I am with the most people, Like they send me this big, long email and tells me everything that happened. I don't even really read the email. I'll skin through it, and I don't want to seem like a dick, but like, I would rather be more focused on talking to someone because I find it more fascinating when someone's telling me what's going on rather than me already knowing. It's like reading spoilers when you go to a movie, so you already know what's about to happen because you already read it beforehand. That's how I see it. I don't want to be spoiled. So when people are like, hey, I want to send you an email about my experiences, of like, just give me like the cliff notes. I don't need every single detail to give me a little bit of small portion of it, so I don't have to know everything that happens, so I can actually be like, oh shit, didn't see that happening. But well, I like, I appreciate you always have me, o man, and you know, and for reaching out. You know, you felt compelled to reach out for a reason, and you know, and I responded for a reason. So I appreciate you having me. And I always tell people thank you for all, always for for putting me on their platforms, even even if it's you know too you know, fifteen people who listen are fifty or one hundred, five thousand or ten thousand. I mean, it's still a lot to me because it had over seven hundred downloads on my episode now, so awesome, man, thank you. But uh yeah, it doesn't matter what the number is. I'm excited to just talk. I'm excited that people want to even listen to me talk. So like it's like that's the reward for me is the fact that it blows my mind. Like you said that anybody would listen to you know, a dope from you know, a dirt road talking about spirituality and stuff. So Crystal says she's tried to get on it's asking for a passport. I don't know, Crystal. I've it wants to know the meeting ID, which would be eight three five three five nine six two nine four nine, and a pass code is six four four nine four eight. I don't know how many things it's asking for. I've never had to ask for a password, so usually when someone's called in, it's always just come off as a phone call. But I don't even see anything popping up, say anyone's trying to join. I don't know, man, Like the whole podcasting thing for me, literally, it's been almost two years ago at this point, I just went and spent thirty five hundred dollars on a PA system. I was doing music, so I don't know where the hell I went from doing music to doing podcasts. But I tried to do a band and they didn't want to do anything. After we had like a couple of practices, I got so frustrated. I just bought this PA system. So just sat down here and I've got it out in the bar now. But the tags are still on it. Yeah, but that that that moment will come where it's just like you find out exactly what that PA system was purchased for. That's the weird thing is like it'll be five years from now or next year, six months from now, and then all of a sudden it be like, of course, why didn't I think of this before? You know, It's like it's like there for a reason, dude. It's so bizarre that I do that all the time. Man, I'm telling you, they'll buy things equipment, photo equipment, camera, whatever, and then I'll have no need for it, and then all of a sudden that moment comes where it just like thing pops up and I needed it for that, you know, and it was at the right it was equipment. Hey, how you doing? Oh good? How are you? I am good? You might want to turn down the vial of the live stream because I can. It's got to delay, it's going back. Okay, is that better? How you doing? Made it in? Yes? You did? So? Was it asking for the meeting idea or an actual pass code? The six four for nine four eight because it acts for a password and so I just entered that number and it let me in. Okay. Yeah, it's never asked for a passport before. So okay, well, if you would like to let everyone know who you are, Oh hi, my name is Crystal. So you know, I just started following your show not that long ago, I guess a few months ago. It's funny that what's the best name, Brad, right, I didn't want to say the wrong name. It's funny that you mentioned the Confessionals because I used to listen to them all the time. I was a Patreon member for a while. But I mean, you guys, I'm sorry, Brad was on that show while back. I think it was the first one you'd done, wasn't it. Yeah, okay, but you guys, yes, sorry, christ I lost the connections to my camera, so I was trying to fix it. Okay, I've never called into a podcast before, so this is the first one. Well, I appreciate that. But I listened to a lot of podcast and I've like, I've emailed stories, you know, talking about email. You guys were talking about reading people's emails. I've emailed the story before into Dave Trader's podcast. I listened to his on a weekly basis. But yeah, so I was I know I commented earlier about spiritual gifts. You know, I was raised Catholics, but I didn't go to church for a long time. And we we kind of go to church. My husband actually knows more about religion than I do because he was in seminary for a couple of years. But you know, I was in a sash therapist for twenty years. That's actually where I've listened to most of my podcasts, because let me tell you, that is a boring job. You know, eight hours a day watching someone else sleep in a dark room, right, it gets boring. And I would listen to a lot of podcasts, but uh, recently, well also, you know, in massage, it's it's such a different kind of career because you're he was talking about vibrations and energy and things like that, and we do learn about that in school. And you know, I've taken rayki and things like that, which I really enjoyed. I don't really practice it very much, but recently I was taking a class online. I don't know if you guys, I know you were talking about what was that psychic from the eighties and nineties, Miss Cleo? And she was such a phony. But there's actually a great episode on Swindled podcast about Cleo. But I mean I do follow some psychics, you know, and I believe in spiritual gifts and things like that. But so Sarah Limos, I know she's been on a few panormal shows. I'm not sure. Okay, So I've taken her class online recently and she it was about like identifying your spiritual gifts. And Brad was talking earlier about how he knows things. So, I mean, I don't know the all the Claire's offhand, I'm still learning them. I don't have them all memorized. But the one that I Claire Cognizant recognize, Yeah, Claire Cognizant. The one that I recognized that I have, like I guess, resonated with me the most, was clear hearing Claire audience. And but the class is just very interesting, and I mean, you know, like you go in, I'm still kind of a skeptical, you know person. I don't just believe everything that people talk about, you know, but it's all very interesting, you know when you go some of these podcasts talking about like lizard people and hollow Earth and flatter Earth and things. I love hearing about all of that stuff. But you know, doing deep dives on the internet is just so interesting to learn about all these topics and you don't really know what's out there right until you research it. But whenever I was taking that class, it just made me think of a lot about like some of my experiences that I've had. I haven't really had that many paranormal experiences. I guess that's what I've never really called into a show before. But one of the things that I did learn in the class from some of the experiences, like, you know, they ask you questions like has this ever happened to you? Have you ever you know? And you just check the boxes and you know, of course, like the one that you score most in you know. So I did clear hearing. And the only I guess paranormal experience that I've had that I can't really explain is a prophetic dream. So I guess that's what I was going to call and to talk to you guys about to night it has My daughter just went to sleep. Actually that's why I was able to call in. I had to wait till she fell asleep. But when I was pregnant, Okay, so I have a twin sister, and every time she was pregnant, I was like, she wanted a baby girl. And every time I was like, oh, I just know that you're gonna have boys because I want boys and you want a girl. Because she was a girlier twin. I was always the like Tom boy. So I was like, and I just know that I'm going to have a girl because I want a boy, you know. So what happened. She had two kids that were both they're both boys, and they both she has more gray head than I do because they stress her out. And uh So when I was pregnant, I was trying everything to convince myself that I was having a girl. I met a boy, and you know, they're like the Asian gender chart and things like that, and if you have heartburn, you're having a boy, you know whatever. I was just trying to convince myself. So this is early in my pregus and see, and I had this dream one night which I don't ever remember my dreams hardly ever. And I had this dream and it was so vivid. It was one of the most vivid dreams I've ever had. And in my dream, my baby like visited me. It was almost like it was very like warm and cozy and like pink like tones in the dream, nothing like visually vivid, but my like she talked to me and she was like Mommy, you're I'm a little girl. You're having a girl. And so I woke right up after the dream and I was like, man, that was so weird. I never remember my dreams. It was so like real feelings, you know. And so of course the first thing I did was call my mom and I told her about it. So weeks go by, and like when I'm fourteen weeks pregnant, I go and get the ultrasound and we do the gender revealed party and everything, and it's a girl. And then I remembered the dreams because it was like probably a month or you know whatever before and when I had to dream, and I told I was like, Mom, I did I really have that dream? Like is that like just in my brain? Like is that you know? And not making that up? And she was like, no, you really had that dream. And so that was just, you know, like things in your life happened that you can't really explain. I know Brad's talking earlier about synchronistic things. That was definitely a big moment for me. So can I take away? Okay, okay, so a few things. Okay, you're talking about massage. That's what you do for a living. So I remember Oh that's what you did. Okay, I'm sorry. So, yeah, when I give massages to you know, you know, over the years, when I've given massages to girlfriends or my wife currently, or even to my like my kids, like I'll massage their feet sometimes or just you know, just just giving them attention. You know, I can always weirdly like hover my hand over an area, and since where like an area is tense, can you do that same thing? And I'm not even talking about touching it. I'm talking about like just like hover my hand right over the area, and I can and I can kind of sense it, and then I'll just like I'll touch that spot and then somebody will go, how did you know that was the exact spot? Then I go, I don't know, it's just sense it or whatever. Is that something that happens to you, Yeah, that you can kind of like feel like energy, you know, I mean, yes, that's one reason why I took will. I've taken a few like energy classes and like chakra balancing and reiki. It's well, it's really really it's really cool. Yeah. Well that's so that's another little strange thing that I feel like I'm in tune with you. Know that whether that's frequency or whatever, it is just that that vibration of feeling something that needs attention, I guess. But here's another thing. You were talking about, pregnancy, when my wife was pregnant. When my wife got pregnant with our daughter, who's six years old. Now, soon as she told me she was pregnant, the moment literally she told me she was pregnant, I go, oh, we're gonna have twins and yeah, and like it was an instant feeling. But I didn't know if it was gonna be a girl or boy or whatever, but it was an instant feeling, Oh, we're gonna have twins. We got a lot of twins in my family. It's in my generation. It's in my generation to have twins, to be a twin, right, so there's a lot of twins. I mean, like six sets of twins in our family. It's something crazy like that. Wow. So yeah, So since she said that she's twins she was pregnant, I was like, oh, we're having twins. And so we went to do the ultrasound one day and the before it was I kept saying, yes, twins is twins, and before they before the lady told us what. It was only going to be a girl, just one note, not twins. I was like, are you sure, and I just I kept saying that She's like yeah, and she showed me and I was like, okay. Then when we had well, my wife had my daughter, the placenta sac came out and there was actually two placenta sacks, as if there was a twin at something. So and and by by the way, I was sick the entire time when my wife was pregnant with my daughter. And so I don't know if those two things are connected at all, but it definitely is something that I sensed and I was sure of, and that it come to find out there was a possibility that there was a twin in there at some point. So I think that's very interesting. Have you ever seen the necklace test where you if you're pregnant or before you're pregnant or is it no, when you're pregnant, you hold the necklace up in it. If it rocks back and forth, you're going to have a boy. For I decide it's going to be a girl. Again. These are vibrations, these are energies that are coming off of us, right and we can't I don't know any I don't know why that is, but it's always accurate. Do you know. My mom did it to my wife whenever she was pregnant my son, and it says and said, we're going to have a boy. But what's interesting is like that necklace test will also go back, so if someone had a miscarriage or abortion or something like that, it will recognize what that former one was supposed to be or or if you were you know, like because my mom was saying something about a two pregnancy that she had that it was we were supposed to have a fourth child in our family, and she was picking up that was whatever that baby was supposed to be wear boy or girl, whatever it was. So it's interesting that all that stuff. It's like an energy related thing. And I've heard stories before about people seeing kids and dreams. Somebody very close to me, I won't tell the story, but someone very close to me said the same thing. And you know, Elvis, Elvis could talk to his twin from the other side, this twin that died at birth. But yeah, I think his name was Yeah, It's like yeah, as a matter of fact, I think Elvis ended up getting his middle name right. Isn't that correct. I could be wrong about that. It's like Elvis took his first name as his middle name or something like that, but he could he could see, he could communicate with his twin on the other side his whole life. So again, these are all energies that are that are that we have within us. And I think twins have it even more than anybody else, obviously, because you share a DNA with somebody. And I was just watching something the other day how kids leave a part of them in their mom to help heal when the mom gets sick, which I think is very interesting that, Like, so there's a part of me inside my mom still that helps heal any ailments that she has. We're the ones, me and my brothers, and we're the ones who go in and attack the cells that are trying to hurt her inside of her. I had this this one night I was with my mom. I mean I was sitting at home and I had this overwhelming sense of like sadness, and I was like, oh no, I got to call my mom. And I called my mom and she was actually sad. So I'm connected to her in some way, right, I can sense something that was off in her, and I could sense that, and so I picked up the phone and called her. Again. I don't know what any of this stuff means. I'm not psychic or I'm not you know what I mean, Like, I don't know. I just had that feeling, that sense. It was like I was in communication with her somehow. So is that kind of what you have as well? Do you have? Because I have that? And I said, while ago, there are a bunch of Claire's. There's Claire Clairvoyant and Claire Audio or whatever it does, and there's you know, I think I think mine was like the Claire Cognizant where I'm like aware of stuff, right, that's like, you know, I didn't do any kind of test, but as I was reading it, I was like, oh, that sounds like what I got. Whatever that is. So but again I get deja vous all the fucking time. Yeah, the same thing. Yeah, it creeps me out every time it happens, because it'll literally happen at least once a week, and every time it does, my hair like stands up. And I'm just like that weird feeling because it happened so often, Like I see things, I'm like I've already seen this I've already experienced literally happened like two days ago, and I'm just like, what the hell is going on? Because why can't I have Why can't I know the lottery numbers in advanced Like why can't I dejav do that shit? But it's like when it happens, it's always something random, something non important, at least I don't think it's important, but like something will happen. I'm like, I've already seen this. This is freaking weird. I get this. Does that mean something? Though? Should? Like someone had told me before that if you have deja vu, like that instance that you're remembering, you've already experienced it once, so you're experiencing again because you have to do something differently from the first time, because the first time you went through and you apparently screwed it up. So you're going back through and I don't know if it's like rewind, but now it's your second attempt, so whatever you just did at that point you have to go on. I was like, well, the other day of my dajavou, I was having a conversation with someone and like I was just like, I already I remember having this conversation so I don't know how you're supposed to know which way you go with it, but who knows. My aunt, my aunt has she has something going on. It's a sickness. I'll just say that. And for whatever reason, I was just like, this is what you have to do. Believe me, this is what you have to do. And I don't have a clue. I'm not a doctor, obviously, but I know I'm right, and I I'm adamant. I can't. I keep telling her, don't listen to anybody else, this is what you have to do. And I think she's I think she's listening, and I think it's going to help her for sure. But again, these are kind of some kind of a I could one be wrong, but I am pretty sure that I'm right. And it's just that feeling that whatever that knowing is that feeling. I'm like, Nope, don't listen to anybody else. And that's not that's not egotistical, that's not I really is not, because I don't have anything to gain by that, by her getting better or whatever, just and I don't and I don't care. I don't want people to be like, oh, you're the savior. I don't care. About that either. All I care about us getting that information, and I was put on her path to give her that information. Yeah, obviously she's in my family. We talk all the time, but specifically we interacted in a way that was a little out of the ordinary. Like I went to get my mom's vehicle for something, and she happened to be there. So it was a little a little bit off the beaten path, right, It wasn't like a typical and it was just like during the day on a random day, you know, so the likelihood of all people being there at the same time was pretty unlikely. So I look at everything as like a sign, like where you have to be, be where you have to be, experience what you have to experience. Even this conversation right now, for some reason, has to happen with you specifically, you know. So whatever that means. You just said, we were the first podcast that you called into, so for some reason you felt compelled to call in the nine talk to us. Well, yeah, I've well I thought about it other you know, lives that I caught, but yeah, it's kind of love wrecking. I don't know, it's just weird to think about being on a podcast. I don't know, well, you've been. I've been for fifteen years. I've listened to radio and podcasts, and I sat there and built my websites and stuff, and I always kind of like it was like I need to be a part of that conversation. And I never did it. I'm glad I'm doing it now, but I wish I would have did it fifteen years ago. I wish i'd have been. I wish I would have started, just because I remember. I remember telling I was on a podcast doing the same thing what you're doing right now, kind of calling in. It wasn't a calling, it was a zoom and it was like they let everybody come in on a Friday night who wanted to come in and talk. And I joined it one night now, and I remember this was five years ago, four years ago, and I remember telling them, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to have a podcast and I'm going to talk all the things I'm talking about right now. But I didn't. I didn't know any of the stuff I know now. I didn't know I was going to be actually doing that. So it's it's you know, I was in, I was the same I was doing the same thing as you and not that I'm some podcaster. Now, I don't even considered myself that it's still a joke to me even on podcasts. But but but for fifteen years, I listened to podcasts while I work in radio radios, you know, radio stations where I work. And that's all I did was I didn't, you know, watch a lot of TV. My My medium was radio and podcasting. iHeartRadio and whatever else I could listen to. And it was just literally non stop all day and from ten, you know, eight o'clock in the morning until ten o'clock at night. Oh yeah, I'm listening to podcasts all day. Well, you was mentioned birth certificates earlier, which is really funny because that's what I do for a living now. See as always, CONNECTION sell birth certificates all day. Yeah, you're the one who enslaves us into the system that you're in. Well, I don't enter them, and I just sell to people that are getting their passports to go and cruises all the time. All they all right, look at the courthouse. Have you had any do you feel like you should be doing something with your ability or the ability to experience things you that are abnormal supernatural? Oh? Yes, I'm definitely on like a path of like exploration. I think that's I've been doing that for a while. That's what started me listening to podcasts, you know, because I just felt kind of like stagnant, you know, and uh, things happen for a reason and everything and had to tumultuous, you know, like uh, you know, family life growing up, and so you know, you're kind of like always on this path of sex, self exploration and improvement and without you know, when you get like thrown some curveballs, it takes a while to bounce back. And and then after I had my child, you know, which is really funny because she's also six, she's about to be seven next month, and you kind of like lose yourself in parenthood, you know, like everything revolves around your kid, and then you're just kind of like, oh my gosh, like who am I again? Right? So I started listening to podcasts because and now you know, I'm a book big podcast and I read a lot of books, and so I got back into that again, and so you know, I started that kind of self exploration again in combination with you know, learning how to be a parent and raising a child and family life and all that, But what do you what do you really want to do in life? Like what's your what do you really? Everybody has something they really want to do, Like what is your thing? Oh well, I mean it's hard to pick one thing really, you know. I mean I used to foster dogs and stuff like that a lot. And uh, let's if you did a vet tech for like nineteen years. But I mean, if you know, money weren't no object or whatever, I would probably have like a rescue farm and travel and you know, I don't know. I don't really know what I would I want to do. I mean, you can be honest, we're not going to judge it. We're doing some of the stuff we're talking about now, Like I'm literally doing a podcast and then I'm completely got to a point where I was like, I'm not doing what I used to do before, and I don't want to. I don't have a desire to because I want to start living my life and doing what I want to do. And I do this show because I don't know this is this is what you want to do? Yeah, Like this is what I want to do. So yeah that's what Yeah, that's the same for me. It's like I'm going in a direction that I feel good about that it feels more vibrational for me, like it lines up with who I want to be and what I want to do. I don't want to hijack from you. Anyone who listens to my show knows I don't really say a whole lot, so I always let everyone else that's on my show speak. But I feel like I have to say something right now because it's kind of almost weird for me at this moment. Steve from the hollow Skuy podcast he's hopped onto like, I don't know if he's still here. Hollow Sky was one of the first podcasts I ever actually liked and listened to. The first podcast that I ever came across was a conspiracy podcast called Government Secrets, and then from there I came I started looking into weird stuff. I said, I wonder about Bigfoot, and then I found US's show Sasquatch Chronicles, and then from there it led me to Tony and then I listened to Tony, and then from that point, Tony had the guys from Hollisky on there, and I really gravitated towards them, and they've always been one of my favorite podcasts, so they were one of the my big influences. So when I decided I wanted to do a podcast, I credit to those guys because they were the first podcast that I really, really really enjoyed. It was basically Wes's show, Tony's Show, and Steven Kyle's show. Those are still the only podcast up until I don't it sounded like a day. I still listen to Hollo Sky Guys, but I don't really listen to a whole lot of other podcasts. Is similar to what I do because I don't want to have the same people on all the time, so I don't want to hear people's experiences because I'm hearing them on my own show now. So I don't really listen to a lot of shows like that. I listened to Uncomfortable because they were and ire friends are both from Indiana. But there's only a few shows that I really listened to anymore. And I was never into podcasts, and now here I'm doing a podcast. So it's like something draws you to it and then all of a sudden you want to do it. And I think, I think what Brad's saying and asking is was it that you really want to do, because if there's something out there you want to do it, just go for it. Yeah, well, you know, I have entertained the idea of having a podcast. I don't know. We'll not have the time though, but if I did, If I ever did a podcast, it would be like about paranormal books or something short like I Swear to God. I was gonna say, well, I used to do a podcast about books. When you talk, we're talking about books. But yeah, I'm starting to expect like paranormal books, you know, nonfiction, you know, you know, you know, watching watched The New Kirks, like their shows, and they pain like his bookshelf and almost like what's on the bookshelf? What can I see? You know? I like the New Kirks. Uh. I don't know if you've watched like Kellier in The Unbind. I'm sure you have. I've watched both seasons, but it's been like four years ago, so I don't remember a whole lot about it. So what do you think about writing things into existence? Like I think when you put things into words on paper, Oh yeah, it's literally a spell. You're just casting a spell. Do you think that when you read these books? Do you think that these these spells have been casted at some point. If that's a it's a weird question to ask, but no. But you know, like you're talking about vibrations and things and like drawing people to you and experiences, and you know, I've been on this path of self exploration and listening to like I've listened to The hollow Sky as well, and and do what was that the West's show. That's how I heard about Tony as well, because they did some event, like they were talking about some event I think it was they had one of the guys from the Patty and gilmun film speak at and they were talking about it, and that's how I found out about Tony. I think it was like Houston. But you know, like you're drawing more people like you and that both have the same beliefs as you that you can talk to. Like I mean, I talked to my husband about stuff, but he's just kind of like he I'm sure he thinks I'm kind of crazy because he has his own beliefs, like and we talk about religion a lot too, because he knows a lot more about that. But I just think, like you're you're opening up all of this and You're meeting more people that talk about these things and they're into it, and you know, and I just keep finding more and more people like on Facebook, Like that's how I found your podcast, this podcast, you know, meeting more and more people that are into the things that I'm into. And I'm just really enjoying that, meeting more people that have the same interest and the same way of thinking. And I think that's just helping me open, you know, my eyes to the world that's out there that we don't know that much about, you know, and going on deep dives and with conspiracies because I know, I hadn't mentioned in the comments on one of your shows about the octopus murders, and I went, you know, I started googling all kinds of stuff after I watched that, but like I knew what you were talking about because that those are things that I'm interested in, you know. So I'm really just enjoying that this right now, meeting more people that are into what I'm into. Yeah, I was just gonna say, wait till you go and go to a place where everybody's cool like that and everybody speaks the same language as you. Man, it's really cool. I went to event in Florida, and I was just surprised at how welcoming everybody was, and I thought I was gonna be like a fifth wheel and and I was just totally shocked, and I was like, oh, people get me. I remember I was on Mark Steve's show, How My Family Thinks I'm Crazy, and it was like it was the second podcast ever done. First one was Tony's you know, the Confessionals, and the second one was him, and I kept saying, I know it sounds weird, man, I know it sounds weird, and He's like, Dude, this is freaking weird. This is where weird lives. Man. I was like, that's this is I forgot. I'm talking to people who are like minding because I'm used. I'm so conditioned to talk to people who don't understand me. So yeah, totally get it. Yeah, but wait till you go to an event and you're speaking the same language as everybody else. Then it's just then it just feels like, oh, I want that feeling some more, which is why I'm doing this podcast, which is why Brain is doing the podcast, which is why everybody. Everybody's seeking that same feeling still to feel normal and because sometimes we do feel I do feel abnormal sometimes, especially when you start talking about Yeah, I mean especially when you start talking about weird stuff that is definitely not in the conversation because people aren't ready to receive the information. You know, they might know that paranormal stuff exists, but they're not ready to receive that information to put it into a reality. Because we it's a reality for us, but it's not a reality for everybody, and so hey, people have a very hard time accepting that as a reality. Literally, I can say I can point to something, go that is something look at that, and people will go, now, that's not that's something else. Dude. It's somebody that lives in my town now sent me a text one night because he knows I've been on these shows. He listens to Tony as well, so he heard me on Confessionals and he sent me pictures of orbs and stuff that were flying around and he said his wife actually saw it with him, and she's she's she's always like, no, I don't believe this. I don't do that. She saw these things flying around in their field and she was like, Oh, that's got to be some kind of new high tech you know planes that the government has or something, and literally these orange balls are flying all around the place and all over the field. Makes no sense where and then they own all the land that their own. So it makes me in their reality that can't possibly exist. So when you try to talk to people who don't accept that as reality yet, it's really hard to get through to them because they just they don't it's not a real orange balls. When it reminded me that's I think I told you last week that the the orange ball was out back and the field hovering around. I thought of the flare. That what I'm saying, dude, I was telling you about my mom like that she saw the UFO in her backyard. Sorry my battery that again, she saw the UFO flying around her backyard or hover in her backyard. She was like, oh, it's just a radio tower. I'm like, you've lived in you own the land behind you, and you've lived there for sixty yearss At what point did they erect a radio tower right in that spot and it just made no sense whatsoever? You know? Yeah, Well, she's just like not mentally prepared to accept the reality of it, you know, No, definitely not. It's funny to me, like years ago, I would have never found myself doing something like this outside of work or whatever. I'm not an outgoing person in the sense that I don't like talking to people, and now here I am doing a show where I talk to people. And I'd mentioned this before when I was on my a different podcast. I don't like I don't like being the center of attention, like I just prefer to be off of my a little in the background whatever. But it's funny because I used to do vocals in a metal band and did that. Ope, we got someone else calling in, so welcome. Okay, Well I can let you guys go. Chrystal. I've enjoyed talking to you. Yeah, it's been awesome. I hope you As soon as you started talking and saying this and that about vet and stuff, I was like, no, that's not it. Like I could tell you wanted to call in because you wanted to talk. You want to do a podcast. I know that's what it was about. Well, Crystal, I'm glad that we got connected on Facebook and you've been a fan of the show since then. It's been an honor. You've been almost every live stream I've been doing since then, so I appreciate it for real, I definite appreciate it. Coming on, I appreciate that. Yeah, we'll keep nice to chat with you guys. Very nice Christmas. Yeah, thanks. Yeah. Logo here the love line with welcome to Brandon and Brad talks love. How you doing? Can you hear us? Yeah? Hello? Hello? How you doing? I'm good? How are you? I'm all right? Who are we speaking with? Well, my name is Bob. How are you doing, Bob? Well? Great? How about you guys tonight? Uh, my first time ever calling into uh something like this. Can I talk about a big foot experience that I had? Definitely? Hell yeah, dude, Yeah, that's a I used to work at a power company in the Great Straight at the Great State of Nebraska, and this happened probably I think around twenty thirteen. We served part of the Omaha Nation in our district. They had like fifty six thousand acres of timber. And this happened before I ever met Barry and Derek Webster that they have a group called dress Boxing Research. This happened forever met them. But I was up front in our district office one day and overheard our receptionists telling a story about how a customer came in disconnected his service and and they asked him why. They said that he was seeing bigfoot every night and he was scared, so he disconnected his service and moved out. So I looked it up on our service map seeing where it was at, and it was real close to where one of our board members lived. So I got permission from him to go up and do a little bit of an investigation on our own, me and my daughter and son and my son Dutch, your wife, and this board member told when I told him what I was doing, he said, you cannot believe the stuff that we've seen here in this area, which is up by a town called Macy, Nebraska. And so we parked about a mile away from where we where this guy was living, and we took off. You know, we didn't have flash lights. Well, you know, obviously we had a cell phone, but we we went armed because there are mountain lions in that area. But as we were walking through this beanfield, we had to get over by this creek, it's called Blackbird Creek, and we My plan was I thought we could walk all the way up to this guy's service and be able to you know, he's moved out. I thought, we can, you know, be on that property. Well, as we were getting close, we died. I discovered there was another service between where he lived and where we were at. It was all lit up, dogs barking. There was no way for us to get past this guy's house. And so the creek where we were at kind of had a bend in it, and there was like a glade. We climbed down over the bank, and you know, there was a nice little grassy area, and my done and his fiance they went like fifty feet up further from where we were at, and so we sat down, me and my daughter, and I had pulled my son. I said, now I'm gonna make a couple calls. I made a couple of really loud whoops, and then we sat there. And maybe ten minutes after that happened, we noticed that the area got deathly quiet. I mean you could hear a pin drop in the timber, you know, it was just dead silent. And then all of a sudden, we heard just three branch break and I'm not talking, I mean we could never see what size it was, but it was pretty big. And all of a sudden that we heard that branch break. We heard something splashed down into thek That creek is probably twenty feet wide. It came from the west, so it had to climb up the up the burm and go down about twenty feet to the creek. We heard it splash through the water. We heard it crashing through the what what do you call that? It's like a rub brush, you know, but this stuff has a big stickers, you know, points in it. And all of a sudden, you know, it got really quiet, and all of a sudden, this thing started making these real high pitch whistle noises, you know. You know, it freaked us out because we didn't really know what to think, you know, So me and my daughter we quickly went back up because we were where we were at, you know, we were in the low ground. We wanted to get up above whatever whatever this was that I came looking for us. We wanted to be up above. And my son and then fiance they went way out in the field and the beanfield had been picked. And then they came back around and and that us. They've seen us in the dark kind of standing by the crick and we never it never made another noise, but we had this feeling that something was watching us. We stood there for like fifteen twenty more minutes, just waiting, but we never heard another noise. But whatever it was had to been standing in that brush watching us. You know, it was really weird. You know, never heard anything like that happened before that. And I've been up on the reservation with Barry and Derek after I met them about a year and a half later, had quite a few more experiences with them, but that one was kind of on our own. It was really weird. What had what we had heard. We never really got to see much. It was pretty dark that night. Were you ever a believer forehand? Or is this something that kind of got you into believe in it? I, to be honest with you, I believed. I mean I always watched the show Finding Bigfoot, always believed in Bigfoot. I and I and I will to the day I die because of other things that I've seen and heard. I've seen and heard more things with rest watching research than you'll ever see on that TV show. But yeah, that was you know, it was weird. And we went back one other time, but when we got close to that same area, it the feeling that we had that we were being watched as we were getting down to that creek, and we turned around left because we had that feeling that we weren't welcome to be in that area. And then I met the rest watching research boys and I you know, I know you probably don't have time for more stories, but I've seen and heard quite a bit with Sam. It's really you know, when you think in Nebraska, you probably don't think a big foot. No, not really. Between the between the Omaha Nation the wind A Bagel tribe, there's one hundred thousand acres of timber up there, and it's some of the roughest strain that you'll ever see. It's it's crazy. Like I said, I've been out with those guys several times and never left disappointed from them, but that time was just that was on our own. That was just really really freaky. Yeah, I've never had a to my knowledge, i've never had a big foot experience, but I've always as a child, I've always believed that there was something out there. And I don't know if it's because I want to believe the good old thing behind my head, but I've always just felt like people are seeing something and I don't know what it could be. I never like when I saw the video as a kid from like Sightings or whatever the TV show was, and you could see Bigfoot or something on there. They showed the Patterson Gimblin film and most of my family were like, Oh, it's just a man in a suit. That's I never took it as I always wanted to believe that it was real. For some reason. It didn't seem fake to me. It just looked real, especially if you look at it in modern times now and you look with how it looked compared to the technology and the suits they had back then. It stood the test of time for over fifty years. At this point, what is almost sixty years now. So it's kind of crazy to me that if it's considered still a hoax by most people, it's still one of the one hoax that they cannot disprove one way or the other. They can't really prove it or disprove it there it's no hoax. And if you go out with with Barry and Derek, they they have an approach that's just unique. They're very religious. You know, they're Native Americans. You know they have interacted with with the name up on there is the Tonga is the name of of the bigfoot, you know. And they showed me all kinds of evidence that they're just it will blow your mind, you know. And did they do a documentary in this about this area, like I saw something about this, yep, there's a documentary on on TB two U B I yep. And so is this the story about there's a story about an older lady that communicates with these things. What do you call it? The Tonga's the I can't remember the name of them, what you said, but the lady. So it's funny you bring this story up because I was just thinking about this that very same documentary because my mom, since she lost my dad, has hadn't had things happen in her backyard a lot and coincidentally, the land that's right behind her house, she owns a lot of it, but there was a portion of it that was that was sold for timber, and the timber was taken down. And she also she started seeing just hundreds of orbs right after this happened. And that's when she saw and I mentioned it earlier on if you were in here listening yet, but that's whenever she had saw and her neighborhood saw like the shadowy outline of a figure, like a person that she she said it was kind of they said, it was kind of like the predator almost, you know, like a blurry outline of a thing. But what I think is interesting is that the land was taken down. Think these things live in the woods. They. I think that our government has had some kind of deal with these things to where we rope off areas like national forests or you know, these wildlife reserve areas or wherever. I think we've had we have some kind of deal with these things or something, or we just know where. Our government knows where these areas are and they just rope them off to where we can't. We're not allowed to go in these places. But it's interesting that you're you said that there was a bunch of timber being torn down as well in that area, right, No, there's just a lot of just a lot of timber. Okay, I'm sorry. I thought you said there was like a logging company for some many for some reason. But I think that they live in the sure now. I just I just think that they live in these areas. And you know that that documentary that I mentioned, I believe it was the lady who could speak to the tatangas, and so it was a documentary about these two Native American guys telling this and they could go and they can communicate with these things, right, is that what the documentary was about? Okay, yep? And the lady. There was a lady who had a house there and she was telling stories about how they protect her these things. But one of the older men, the older bigfoot, died right and then there was a younger one that didn't want to have a relationship with It was so interesting because I don't even remember how I saw that documentary, but I thought it was super interesting because you could see all the red eyes in the woods at night and all this stuff. It was a very fascinating documentary. But I just remember the lady specifically saying how that these things would protect her. They protected her all the time, and after the older, the elder bigfoot died, the younger one was kind of at odds. He didn't really want to do any of the stuff that the older one was doing. So it's really interesting. I think that's what's going on with my mom. I think they're kind of like protecting her in a way, because she's been there for sixty years in that area, in that and on that same land. So I feel like these things know us. You know, I feel like these things and she's probably never done anything to upset them or you know, you know, you see reports of one that will tase you out of the timber if they don't want you there, and we've never had that. I've never had that experience with Barry and Derek. I you know, I'm the eye Shine. I've heard them talk, We've smelled them. I have a video on their website where I where the eye Shine kind of turned and walked away from us. And that's the same night that I was with them that they bury and Derek got uncomfortable said we needed to leave, so they turned and start walking off. I stood there for a second. I was by a tall tree, and this thing stepped out from the tree and had two red glowing eyes. I have never been so scared in my entire life. I couldn't get out of there quick enough. That's all the time I ever been scared with them, you know, because there was something that that made them uncomfortable and they, you know, we needed to leave, and you know, like I said, I worked at the power company. Anytime people came in from up there, I talked to all of them, and they all would tell me the same thing. You know, they've heard seen, you know, smell them. You know, they hear them during the day, making conversation between them. You know. It's it's a really interesting area. They just don't let anybody come up there. You gotta. You know, if you get on their webs on their Facebook page and join that, you'll you'll find out they're pretty religious. And but it's a very interesting area man, right, yep, yep, they sure are they with them, they they they'll make a prayer out loud to Satanga and then you have to They want you to introduce yourself and be respectful. And it's pretty interesting. You know, I'm a white guy and these guys are Native Americans and they accepted me and and uh let me come up multiple times to go out with them. So you know, it's it's it's a pretty cool area. And then I sometimes I could call back in and tell some more. Yeah, I've seen two dogmen I've never been. That was another on the reservation. And I told Barry Webster about it, and he said, I was very lucky to see what I've seen, and then he said, I was very lucky to just you know, to get away and not have any issues with them, soul. I believe in all that I've seen it, heard it, so but I'll you know, thanks for letting me call in. No, not a problem. I appreciate you calling and definitely call back because when you mentioned dog Man, you really just made my interest speak synchronistic too, man, because that documentary sticks in my mind more than any other Bigfoot documentary I've ever watched. So now I'm gonna have to watch it tomorrow. I think it's called the Tatanga or Satanga or something like that. I'll look for it t Ubi. So well, you guys, have a good night. Thanks you too, you bet By. I think we can probably wrap this one up because we've been going on for over two hours and sorry dude, now we're getting close to midnight. Hey, when people start calling in, I don't want to say no. That's what I've been wanting the show to turn into, is just I want to have someone with me so I can talk back and forth, and someone calls in, we can talk with them. And that's been my goal since I started doing this back in January. Is I always have a podcast on with me to chit chat, and then people can hop on and share their experiences. I think it's a little different than some of the other stuff, and a lot of the things aren't really calling shows for the most part. You'd mentioned people hop in on zoom. That's how I started at first, But I was like, you know what, they'd be better if people actually called in, like the radio thing, the old coast to coast vibe to you never know what you're gonna get calling in. Yeah. I love this format actually because I think it's more relatable for me to talk about stuff like that, because I can share experiences that I've had that doesn't naturally come out during a podcast, you know what I mean. I've noticed one thing though so far, and I enjoy it. But when people are talking, you can make connections, you have relating like it's well, like when you and I talk. When I brought up the fact that, like February ninth is when I had my weird experience, didn't you say the very next day it was like your birthday. Yeah, Like you're able to see the connections and things I don't always see that stuff. But you're able to see like those weird little thing. So even with the people we've talked to, not with Crystal and just Bob, like you're a documentary, you've already seen the documentary, Like you said books when she talkt about podcast like, there's just certain things you're able to pick up. I feel like you're more in tune with everything to where you're able to pick up on stuff more than what I am. You're more your brain functionality is working a little bit more open than mine. Thank you. No, I just I usually look for connections all the time anyways, because I think I'm pretty good at patterns, is what it is. Yeah, I could recognize patterns more than I can anything. And when I start to see patterns in something because also and also as well with like with Crystal, was like it's me, that's me on the other the other side, right basically you know. So yeah, but I've just a dude. I'm telling you, when you start living life and just going with the flow of things of life, and just like if Chrystal, if you're still listening, go to a convention and next thing you know, you'd be hooked up and you'll have your own show, and you'll be talking to somebody. You got a great voice too, by the way, you could really do that. They could read a book or something to somebody. You got a great voice. So but next thing you know, you're hooked up with all these people that are like you, and you know, y'all are sitting around having a podcast talking about these crazy books that ye all read and all that stuff. So yeah, it's just once you start experiencing things, it becomes a different thing, you know. And and again the synchronistic that I saw that documentary because it is on like two B or something. But I was going through a point where I had exhausted everything in life, Like I had the exhausted every avenue of stories. So then I started going to the podcast, right, I started listening to like more paranormal podcasts like yours and Tony's and Whoever's. And because I'd already watched all the documentaries. And I'm not lying when I say that, I've literally feel like I've watched everything everything it matter. One of the other ones that stand out if you want to listen to something, is this that changed my whole perspective on paranormal stuff. Is this movie called Capturing the Light with this it was her name. The movie is called Capturing the Light. This is sweet old Asian lady out of Canada who had an eight millimeter film camera and would go out every night and these lights in the sky were interacting with her and they would come visit her in her house and they were telling hers they were just showing her things in the sky, and she would go out and film them every night because her husband didn't believe her, and so she was filming these things. And the amazing part is there's two things that happened that was pretty amazing. One the eight millimeter film that she was uh filming, you could you could pause the frames and they would you could see that these light beings were spelling things out to her her in the sky. They were spelling out things like her name was Dorothy, like hello Dorothy, and they would do the shape of an alien or it was. It was super interesting. And there was another there was another moment with her daughter. They were about to do this documentary reveal or something like that, and her daughter was there and her daughter was very nervous about going on camera and you can literally see a light, a little orb fly into her mouth or something, and it like calmed her down. So it was a very interesting that's that's so those two documentaries that I watched were they changed my whole perspective on paranormal and everything, and it took me down to a different It took me to a different place. So if you want something that's interesting, go down those rabbit holes. Those are really cool, really cool documentaries, man, they'd really So it synchron stick that he brought that documentary out because that one and the other one is always something that stands out to me. But yeah, for me, I my children run my house, so I don't get the chance to watch the documentaries and everything like I used to. But basically my five year old and my three year old decide what gets watched in my house these days, and usually it's nothing that I want to watch. But I do it late at night, Like right now, i'd be doing it, say late at night. I'm usually if I'm not down here, I'm laying in bed trying to get what little five hours of sleep that I can get up and go to work. But on that note, I don't see anyone calling in, so it's almost midnight. I'm ready to wrap this one up. I'm assuming you're probably ready to do as well. We've been on it for over three hours. Good to go, man. Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate this, and thank you for whoever's listening out there. I really appreciate you guys as well. Yeah, I definitely appreciate everyone that's been on here, hopping in on out all night long with us. It's been a pleasure talking with Brad again, and thanks to Crystalline, thanks to Bob ropping on and calling in with us. Appreciate that too. Before we wrap things up, let everyone know where they can find your podcast. I'm at the awakenpodcast dot com and I am on almost all platforms for podcasting except for Apple Podcasts. For some reason they haven't I don't know if they have to approve my podcast to be on there or not. But you can also find me at the Awakened podcast thirty three on Instagram. I talk a lot about the thirty third parallel. That's kind of like my gateway into everything spirituality and physics and all this paranormal everything it all is connected to that, the thirty third parallel. So if you want to know about anything thirty third Parallel. I have some theories on it, and you can hear a lot of those theories on shows like The Confessionals, and you can hear it on Brandon's show ten Full of Tails. You can hear it on you know anything, you know. I think I tenfold hat with Sam Tripley. I think I talked a lot about thirty third parallel there. I exhausted my I think I did two hours on his show and Tony's show. So there's a lot of content out there to catch up on the thirty third parallel. But if you could follow me, like I said, on Instagram, I'm not on Facebook or anything like that. I feel like Facebook and YouTube and all that stuff. Even though you Instagram owns Facebook, I still feel like Instagram is a little bit better. They haven't banned me yet, but I'm sure there's shadow banning me in some way. YouTube seems to basically halt everything, so I don't get on YouTube. But I am on Rumble and I'll start uploading clips to my Rumble channel, so stay tuned for that. I have a lot more clip's coming. Follow me on Instagram, like I said, I have a lot more clips. Adding to that as well, and uh yeah, that's pretty much it. Sorry, So this is the first time I've been on Rumble. I don't know much about it, but as we mentioned, and I don't want to keep bitching about it, but YouTube pisces me off, so there's that. But no, Brad, it's been a pleasure. And if you ever want to hop back on another live stream with me, so let me know. Sure, than buddy, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. All right, everyone, hope you guys enjoyed it, But we're going to wrap this one up. So thanks to Brad, thanks to Crystal, thanks to Bob, and thanks for everyone that's been out there listening to us tonight. Guys are awesome. Good night everyone, and that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section and foiltel dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded, thank you all for joining us on this journey, and until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown. 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